Jim Cornette Reviews Who Killed WCW? Episode 3

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
  • From Episode 348 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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  • @disturbedftw1998
    @disturbedftw1998 6 місяців тому +452

    The fact that to this day Russo blames everything and everyone else for his own incompetence proves he's full of shit.

    • @pmfg11
      @pmfg11 6 місяців тому +13

      @@disturbedftw1998 the dude you're blowing was throwing creative so bad that Vince McMahon couldn't do anything with. That's incompetence

    • @burntvirtue
      @burntvirtue 6 місяців тому +16

      So does Bischoff. So does Hogan. So does Nash.

    • @DoneBrokeDatBack
      @DoneBrokeDatBack 6 місяців тому +29

      I swear, every time I hear him talk ANYWHERE it's him claiming innocence and saying, "who actually even cares about this wrestling shit, BrO!? come on, BrO!! none of that bad shit was my fault it was all them, BrO!" Probably thought that was about WCW. That was Russo yelling at a doordasher.

    • @MarvinT0606
      @MarvinT0606 6 місяців тому +13

      None of the WCW guys take responsibility for that murder.

    • @Methodius93
      @Methodius93 6 місяців тому +13

      Bro wasn't my fault bro

  • @emilioamaro2790
    @emilioamaro2790 6 місяців тому +283

    Lol oh my god, Russo in ICP makeup. Travis Heckel never misses

    • @daleharris3809
      @daleharris3809 6 місяців тому +19

      I would say he needed Doink the Clown but I don't wanna run Matt Bourne's name down

    • @fakegeek5462
      @fakegeek5462 6 місяців тому +6

      Best part of the vids i listen to the full podcast sometimes and its not the same without the artwork.

    • @mickeyd8768
      @mickeyd8768 6 місяців тому +25

      he's a Juggalbro

    • @plimtsny
      @plimtsny 6 місяців тому +7

      WOOP WOOP BRO!

    • @set1237
      @set1237 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@daleharris3809Matt Bourne ran his own name down long ago.

  • @Lady.Luthien
    @Lady.Luthien 6 місяців тому +459

    You just know whenever Russo starts a sentence with "I'm gonna be totally honest with you," he's about to lie his @$$ off.

    • @nsanelycrazy
      @nsanelycrazy 6 місяців тому +46

      I'm! GO-ING! TO! BE! TOT-TAL-LY! HON-EST with! you! BRO!
      Dude speaks like he's talking to a slow 5 year old.

    • @BiscoWho
      @BiscoWho 6 місяців тому +31

      Mate, just think about it...
      When someone says that, your first question should be, "Wait. So, you're saying that you weren't being honest with me before?".

    • @DRock1779
      @DRock1779 6 місяців тому +9

      I said that to my wife during the show just before he dropped the ridiculous 80% line.

    • @Shin-Blade
      @Shin-Blade 6 місяців тому +16

      Or just "BRO," period... 🤣

    • @MrShanester117
      @MrShanester117 6 місяців тому +4

      What’s the point of going to the comment section to say the thing the video says and pretend like it’s your own thought? I don’t get that

  • @TheTalk23
    @TheTalk23 6 місяців тому +392

    I love how Goldberg called him shit stain. That just goes to show everyone thinks he is shit stain not just Jim.

    • @TimeBomb014X
      @TimeBomb014X 6 місяців тому

      That or much like Jim's favorite president, likes to plagerise other's speech and pass it off as his own

    • @vita4-life852
      @vita4-life852 5 місяців тому +12

      You know he got that from this show, I’m sure.

    • @j_obaymaac2886
      @j_obaymaac2886 5 місяців тому +6

      that just goes to show that dangerous worker who never learned how to wrestle thinks that Russo is a shitstain.

    • @ajjjay9583
      @ajjjay9583 5 місяців тому

      @@TheTalk23 can someone kick Goldberg in the head lol

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 місяців тому +3

      @@j_obaymaac2886 GTF over it.

  • @mattm6580
    @mattm6580 6 місяців тому +243

    I'm torn on Goldberg. On the one hand, he ended Brets career. On the other hand, he speared shitstain into the guardrail.

    • @dannymcelroy922
      @dannymcelroy922 6 місяців тому +24

      Goldberg ended Bret harts career?? I hadn't ever heard that... (Obvious sarcasm fellow YT commenters.)

    • @nsanelycrazy
      @nsanelycrazy 6 місяців тому +69

      @@dannymcelroy922 Bret may have vaguely alluded to that a couple times.

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 6 місяців тому +2

      This one is on bret

    • @williamsmith666
      @williamsmith666 6 місяців тому +15

      He was an unsafe muscle head with two moves, couldn't work more than a few minutes in the ring and was only in the business for the money. Basically, a proto-Lesner. There's nothing to like

    • @Onthejazz247
      @Onthejazz247 6 місяців тому +19

      ​@williamsmith666 not understanding that when you're eight, seeing a dude like that sold like a live action superhero can create some magic moments. It's identical to all the joyless smarks who don't like hogan. Kids have always been a big part of the audience and guys like goldberg, hogan, ultimate warrior, and Cena don't have to be particularly competent wrestlers to still make magic.
      The lesnar comparison is also bizarre because he actually can really sell his style. Not everything has to be leglocks.

  • @riotd.r.8363
    @riotd.r.8363 6 місяців тому +181

    Honestly, as a kid when Russo started doing a promo, my brother and I couldn't change to Raw fast enough.

  • @zaphod100
    @zaphod100 6 місяців тому +219

    Every time Russo says bro, some of my brain cells die

    • @davidholdren1358
      @davidholdren1358 6 місяців тому +4

      You, too?

    • @Shin-Blade
      @Shin-Blade 6 місяців тому +3

      Matt Riddle should be the only one in wrestling to coin, "BRO..." 🤣

    • @joellittlejr2966
      @joellittlejr2966 6 місяців тому +6

      Me too. We lost a lot of brain cells during this episode.

    • @russellcampbell3500
      @russellcampbell3500 6 місяців тому

      I haf Ben watching so lang me Brian doos knot wurk honey as cracker more.

    • @daleharris3809
      @daleharris3809 6 місяців тому

      You should be in a vegetative state by now😂😂

  • @americanbadass88
    @americanbadass88 6 місяців тому +41

    Russo claiming he wanted to get the "casuals" to watch wrestling. Yeah the casuals will wanna watch Judy Bagwell on a forklift match. what a clown

  • @coryshannon3815
    @coryshannon3815 6 місяців тому +181

    Russo back then: Nothing matters in wrestling but the TV ratings.
    Tony Khan now: Nothing matters in wrestling but the Cagematch ratings.

    • @quentinkaasa47
      @quentinkaasa47 5 місяців тому +4

      Everything's Great, Bro!

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 5 місяців тому +1

      @@quentinkaasa47"Everything is bro, great!"

    • @ste4392
      @ste4392 3 місяці тому +2

      Tony Khan now: Nothing matters on wrestling, but the star ratings

    • @georgebartholow6547
      @georgebartholow6547 2 місяці тому

      Great¿

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama 6 місяців тому +371

    Goldberg calling Russo Shitstain popped me ngl

    • @aic8001
      @aic8001 6 місяців тому +11

      Thank u for not lying

    • @Dr.Meth666
      @Dr.Meth666 6 місяців тому

      Billy Goldberg is a fucking mark for himself ...just like everyone else in wcw '97-2000

    • @chewydewok
      @chewydewok 6 місяців тому +17

      At least we know Jim Cornette isn't the only person that calls Russo shitstain.

    • @C0wboyzfan4life
      @C0wboyzfan4life 6 місяців тому +5

      Same he should thank cornette to use that term

    • @daleharris3809
      @daleharris3809 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@C0wboyzfan4lifeI'm surprised Corny hasn't tried to have it trademarked by now

  • @jwconglomerate332
    @jwconglomerate332 6 місяців тому +478

    I can't wait to find out why Jim is Duckman in the artwork.

    • @danpoutsma1351
      @danpoutsma1351 6 місяців тому +106

      @@jwconglomerate332 Ed Ferrara was a writer for it before he became Russo's shadow in WWF.

    • @cHriiSzbEe
      @cHriiSzbEe 6 місяців тому +28

      No wonder Duckman was short lived 😂

    • @RextheDragon881
      @RextheDragon881 6 місяців тому +18

      Duckman.

    • @nsanelycrazy
      @nsanelycrazy 6 місяців тому +22

      Maybe he once fd duckman maybe he once was duckman.

    • @apelletier1886
      @apelletier1886 6 місяців тому +26

      What the hell are you staring at?

  • @riotd.r.8363
    @riotd.r.8363 6 місяців тому +178

    I recently learned that the executive that made the call to pull WCW from the stations also cancelled my favorite WB cartoons. Not to speak ill of the dead, but in his life I say: Boo this man!

    • @danpoutsma1351
      @danpoutsma1351 6 місяців тому +20

      Jamie Kellner

    • @hi-vv3jo
      @hi-vv3jo 6 місяців тому +3

      He's my hero

    • @chazzerous
      @chazzerous 6 місяців тому +21

      @@danpoutsma1351more like Jamie Killner

    • @BiscoWho
      @BiscoWho 6 місяців тому +31

      When someone is a POS most of their life, it's okay when you tell the truth about them after they die. Idk why we act like people suddenly become saints the moment they die.
      It's like, we all die in the end, and a lot of us are just total douchebags our whole lives. So, let's just be real about that fact whenever we're speaking about the deceased.

    • @vincesmith2499
      @vincesmith2499 6 місяців тому +3

      He did the right thing by ending WCW. It was an embarrassment. RIP Jamie Kellner.

  • @kevinkbradshaw2239
    @kevinkbradshaw2239 6 місяців тому +183

    3 people killed WCW.
    1. HOGANS - Creative control.
    2. Bischoff - Swinging on Hogans nuts.
    3. Shitstain - For being a shitstain

    • @RagnarokB
      @RagnarokB 6 місяців тому

      I'd say it's way more complicated than that. It was more like a foul bukkakke where SO many people had a shot. Hogan, Bischoff, Shitstain, Nash, various Turner suits, and god knows who else blew their load all over the poor hooker called WCW until Jamie Kellner popped in to inform them that she's dead. Which is a long, gross way of saying that a LOT of people have their DNA all over the death of WCW.

    • @keithwiggins3131
      @keithwiggins3131 6 місяців тому +5

      I've said the same thing.

    • @keithwiggins3131
      @keithwiggins3131 6 місяців тому +1

      But not in those words.

    • @HowIDoItFaM
      @HowIDoItFaM 6 місяців тому +7

      Yep pretty much, that merger didn't help anything either

    • @iamdb1990
      @iamdb1990 6 місяців тому +4

      4. Kevin Sullivan's booking

  • @scottmartin3228
    @scottmartin3228 6 місяців тому +54

    The stupidest thing about David Arquette winning the title, beyond the fact that an actor shouldn't be given a world title, is he won it by pinning Bischoff in a tag match, and screwing his own partner DDP out of the title. Arquette wins, and DDP is celebrating with him being champion, when that result cost DDP the title!

    • @WyattHolliday
      @WyattHolliday 6 місяців тому +10

      I know! If he was a real friend, he would have been like, “Cover him, DDP!”

    • @peterharding2052
      @peterharding2052 6 місяців тому +9

      I love the exclusive that Schiavone came up with Arquette winning the title. Schiavone revealed that a long time ago and he was having fun with Russo. Tony didn’t care by that point.

    • @jonhall3151
      @jonhall3151 6 місяців тому +9

      "Everybody was making seven figures!"
      -DDP

    • @slickdeezynation8331
      @slickdeezynation8331 6 місяців тому +5

      Yes so dumb. It reminded me of Medusa in a world title tournament fighting benoit and Jeff jarrett screwed her after Russo put her back in the tournament???? WHAT?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kaijusoshingeki7214
      @kaijusoshingeki7214 5 місяців тому +8

      Now the son of an actor (Jack Perry) pins former WWE champions (RVD, Danielson).

  • @mattmorgan2534
    @mattmorgan2534 6 місяців тому +62

    So one thing I can vouch for Jimmy without question? Was when I first started Greener than goose shit at Ohio Valley, & wrestling with VERY limited experience, and Jimmy wanted me to bodyslam somebody at the very end of my In-ring promo. BUT Before Jimmy would allow me to do it to the heel during our TV , before the show started, he made me do it to him first in the ring. Showing the multi year heel, I would be safe with him. That tells you all you need to know about Jim Cornette and his respect for our business

    • @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
      @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 6 місяців тому +3

      Great, you’re the real Matt Morgan?

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 6 місяців тому

      Shame on you for being a rightwing gun nut

    • @quentinkaasa47
      @quentinkaasa47 5 місяців тому +1

      Tell us about Hard Justice 2009. Whose idea was it to keep Kurt Angle champion after getting arrested the day before?

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 5 місяців тому

      @@mattmorgan2534 tell us about inhumane rightwing politics. Corruption, destroying and polluting our environment, kissing up to corporations, destroying minorities' lives...

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 6 місяців тому +63

    People forget that Russo, even when he was “head writer,” didn’t book the main events for the WWF- that was Vince & Patterson exclusively. Russo wrote for the rest of the card and even that stuff went through Vince first. But Russo smooth-talked his way into WCW and then immediately crashed & burned.

    • @RobCrowley85
      @RobCrowley85 6 місяців тому +20

      Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous when he takes credit for Rock and Austin

    • @quentinkaasa47
      @quentinkaasa47 5 місяців тому +6

      Russo wasn't a match agent period. He was a script writer who would write out the formats for the shows. And then McMahon would tweak everything Russo had laid out.

    • @soulofanerd9364
      @soulofanerd9364 15 днів тому

      EXACTLY 💯

  • @timdertim
    @timdertim 6 місяців тому +139

    Vince Russo is delusional. That last episode of Who killed WCW left no doubt about it

    • @kaminsod4077
      @kaminsod4077 6 місяців тому +20

      Russo genuinely lives in a different reality than the rest of us.

    • @stevecinneide8183
      @stevecinneide8183 6 місяців тому +6

      He gave us those Sable angles where she showed the puppies. Now you marks have Nia Jaxx or however you spell her name.

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому +19

      @@stevecinneide8183and that was for teen boys, not everyone’s a perv, you probably harass women on the street when they walk by, that’s the energy you’re putting out….”bro”

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma 6 місяців тому

      @@stevecinneide8183 Virgin trash.

    • @cHriiSzbEe
      @cHriiSzbEe 6 місяців тому +9

      Russo was like the Donald Trump of WCW! He was the young bucks before the Young Bucks

  • @VicariousThePot
    @VicariousThePot 6 місяців тому +95

    The death of wcw was a group effort, everybody chipped in, nash, bischoff, hogan, russo, ect. I just find it funny that now all the ones that played a part in it are now saying "well what had happen was....."

    • @cHriiSzbEe
      @cHriiSzbEe 6 місяців тому +3

      Tony Schiavone has a podcast called What Happened Was 😂

    • @simeonflake
      @simeonflake 6 місяців тому +19

      And yet, as tough as some of those Nitros are to watch, I'll still take that over AEW...

    • @americanbadass88
      @americanbadass88 6 місяців тому +8

      And Brett is there like there all idiots

    • @heyyou9693
      @heyyou9693 4 місяці тому

      @@VicariousThePot ..
      And now, I'll tell you the real story...

  • @heyhandbanana1
    @heyhandbanana1 6 місяців тому +186

    Vince Russo is more delusional than the Ocean Gate ceo

    • @wraithstrongopark
      @wraithstrongopark 6 місяців тому +13

      russo sounds like the modern disney star wars writers.

    • @MrShanester117
      @MrShanester117 6 місяців тому +5

      And his career went about the same too 😂

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 6 місяців тому +7

      @@wraithstrongopark Nah he sounds more like the middle aged star wars fans who still think the show should cater strictly to them. lmao

    • @stevecinneide8183
      @stevecinneide8183 6 місяців тому +5

      @@wraithstrongopark those did very well at the box office and on rotten tomatoes, just saying....

    • @PaxBisonica89
      @PaxBisonica89 6 місяців тому

      Rotten tomatoes 😂😂😂😂​@@stevecinneide8183

  • @bcal8118
    @bcal8118 6 місяців тому +182

    If you aren't watching Reliving the War from Wrestling Bios, your missing a hell of a series that covers EXACTLY what happened during this time

    • @stevengrvp
      @stevengrvp 6 місяців тому +32

      Bios goes more in detail with no spin

    • @bjg8638
      @bjg8638 6 місяців тому +44

      A couple jam up guys right here ^^^^

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому

      @@bjg8638Smokey The Cat approves

    • @Dr.Meth666
      @Dr.Meth666 6 місяців тому

      I hear a davey boy smith chinlock in the chamber.....😂

    • @dadarkkinghgotham
      @dadarkkinghgotham 6 місяців тому +26

      “I’d like to say hello to my cat… Smokey “

  • @ChrisG667
    @ChrisG667 6 місяців тому +68

    I can’t believe Duckman killed WCW. I thought he was an honest detective!

    • @EwanCumia
      @EwanCumia 6 місяців тому +6

      I don't think I've thought of Duckman in well over 20 years.

    • @robhammel
      @robhammel 6 місяців тому +2

      And just what the hell are YOU looking at??

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 6 місяців тому +3

      Ferrara never wrote for Duckman

    • @EwanCumia
      @EwanCumia 6 місяців тому +2

      @@smarkslowplay3512 I checked IMDB. Ferrara never appeared on any credits.

    • @dildonius
      @dildonius 6 місяців тому

      *Ducktective

  • @sameasme2
    @sameasme2 6 місяців тому +29

    Seeing Goldberg spear Russo was joy I had forgotten about.

    • @ScottRen14
      @ScottRen14 6 місяців тому +10

      Yeh that was a nice trip down memory lane

    • @DavidH1
      @DavidH1 6 місяців тому +9

      That was beautiful

  • @brizwaldjonson
    @brizwaldjonson 6 місяців тому +46

    Jason Alexander did some good voice work on Duckman, lol.

    • @SteelSunday
      @SteelSunday 6 місяців тому +5

      And I like to be clear that Ed Ferrara never wrote for that fun show.

  • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
    @MichaelSmith-fq6hz 6 місяців тому +39

    Corny must love these shows because they make the audience hate Russo almost as much as Jim does.

  • @RetroGamerKev
    @RetroGamerKev 6 місяців тому +38

    I'm here for Duckman Cornette and this is going to be a good one I can feel it.

  • @alexschultz4066
    @alexschultz4066 6 місяців тому +128

    When Russo said he was better than 80% of the talent at WCW, I physically had to get up from my couch and walk around because I couldn’t believe how ridiculous that statement was.

    • @foleynj86
      @foleynj86 6 місяців тому +24

      I literally yelled OH MY GOD at the top of my lungs like Joey Styles when Russo said that.

    • @averylargecrow
      @averylargecrow 6 місяців тому +9

      That was my favourite bit and made me chuckle at how self-important Russo thinks of himself.

    • @JamesBrown-fj9ue
      @JamesBrown-fj9ue 6 місяців тому +10

      Have a look at the roster from back then, and it will make you walk about some more .

    • @sugartbube
      @sugartbube 6 місяців тому +7

      Russo needed to be slap for that bs

    • @JustACoolGuy97
      @JustACoolGuy97 6 місяців тому +9

      to be fair he buried 80% of the roster with his booking lol

  • @nsanelycrazy
    @nsanelycrazy 6 місяців тому +48

    After that episode there should be no question in anybodys mind why Jim hates Russo.

  • @mage1439
    @mage1439 6 місяців тому +55

    I like how Russo talks endlessly about how he hates wrestling but can't keep his nose out of talking about it at every opportunity. Get a different job, bro.

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 6 місяців тому +82

    Russo had a chance to save WCW with his “genius,” it was still salvageable at that point. But Russo put on the absolute worst wrestling product in American history.

    • @vincesmith2499
      @vincesmith2499 6 місяців тому +26

      Whether WCW could be saved or not is irrelevant, and I'm tired of Russo making that excuse. He made the product a thousand times worse.

    • @intothewildernesswithtom2919
      @intothewildernesswithtom2919 6 місяців тому +20

      Correction the worst wrestling product in American history until AEW

    • @EliC09
      @EliC09 6 місяців тому +3

      Worse than Tony’s booking? Doubtful

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 6 місяців тому +10

      Russo in 1999/2000 WCW was some of the worst booked shit ever, no doubt. Only Sullivan's 3 months in between at the start of 2000 was worse

    • @foleynj86
      @foleynj86 6 місяців тому +3

      Until Tony Khan came along.

  • @AustenHilton
    @AustenHilton 6 місяців тому +17

    My shift at work is moving at a snails pace thank you for this Jim and Brian

  • @vonVile
    @vonVile 6 місяців тому +35

    This whole topic should have been one TV episode. AOL/Time Warner did it. They wanted nothing to do with wrestling, threw in the towel and sold it for dirt to Vince.

    • @Tim85-y2q
      @Tim85-y2q 6 місяців тому +8

      True but why should they have wanted wrestling when it was hemorrhaging money most of the time they owned it?

    • @diegorivas1991
      @diegorivas1991 6 місяців тому +5

      @@totallybored5526 That was like hit the turbo pedal on a downhill and never pull it off.

    • @jonnya4209
      @jonnya4209 6 місяців тому +8

      That's the cold boring reality of it. Anything else is really just speculating as to who tanked WCW's ratings and business the most prior to that.

    • @WyattHolliday
      @WyattHolliday 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep.

    • @SamuraiJack99-uc3pz
      @SamuraiJack99-uc3pz 6 місяців тому +11

      The way I see it is that AOL pulled the plug on the terminally ill patient. The show is about who made WCW ill to begin with.

  • @srichardf
    @srichardf 6 місяців тому +16

    When Goldberg called Russo a "shitstain" I asked if Goldberg listened to Cornette. They also didn't mention how Russo wanted to put the WCW title on Tank Abbott.

  • @sugartbube
    @sugartbube 6 місяців тому +17

    Love Bret Hart quote "he was just another idiot"

  • @chadams7753
    @chadams7753 6 місяців тому +14

    I love how they retread and wring every fucking molecule out of WCW and the Monday Night Wars because nothing has been interesting since then

  • @Henry_C2
    @Henry_C2 6 місяців тому +12

    "Duckman? A duck could write Duckman!" That broke me 🤣🤣🤣

    • @analiysanchez9949
      @analiysanchez9949 6 місяців тому +2

      Problem is Cornette is lieing about that. Ferrara never wrote for Duckman. He wrote for weird science the tv series.

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust 5 місяців тому +1

      @@analiysanchez9949 Duckman had decent writing, so that's how I knew Ferrara wasn't involved. Weird Science and that show were both on USA network. I wonder if Ferrara talked about Duckman, or if Jim just repeated the same statement for years thinking it was true.

  • @harryarmstrong9816
    @harryarmstrong9816 6 місяців тому +21

    Imagine being in the next room hearing Jim watch this episode, he probably had to pause every five minutes to gather himself and inhale a Sprite.

    • @ScottRen14
      @ScottRen14 6 місяців тому +3

      I imagine there was a lot of swearing

  • @PrimeEvilDean
    @PrimeEvilDean 5 місяців тому +8

    So, wait a sec:
    1) Vince Russo takes writing job at WCW.
    2) Vince Russo hates writing job at WCW.
    3) Vince Russo books himself in a match against one of the most well-known unsafe wrestlers , & gets hurt in WCW.
    4) Vince Russo gets paid to sit home with a concussion from WCW.
    Anybody else connecting the dots? Or is this just one of those "sheer coincidences" that I'm sure hold no water at all...

  • @pocketspore
    @pocketspore 6 місяців тому +49

    Guy Evans is pretty much the only guy that's actually got Turner execs on the record. His book was the one that actually dove right in to everything, instead of going the easy path of "bad tv killed it"
    Nitro is absolutely the definitive book on the subject

    • @garymunyak6753
      @garymunyak6753 6 місяців тому +8

      Carnys don't like that fact. Basically makes all of this useless. Which it is.

    • @smarkslowplay3512
      @smarkslowplay3512 6 місяців тому +6

      WCW could have been a PG alternative to WWE with big stars from the past (Hogan, Sting, Flair etc) mixing it up with new rising stars (Jericho, Booker, Benoit, Raven etc)
      Profitable, ad friendly, smart booking, less egomaniacs politicking
      Hence, more attractive to AOL/TW

    • @EDorb
      @EDorb 6 місяців тому +7

      Great book, listened to the audio version of it. Siegel and his college dorm buddy were the ones that really signed the death warrant imo, they made sure Vinny Mac got WCW and noone else. Who knows how long it would've lived if either Jarret or Bischoff had bought it, but it would've been at least longer than March 2001.

    • @pocketspore
      @pocketspore 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@garymunyak6753Jim Cornette couldn't be.... Wrong? Could he?
      Yes. Habitually actually

    • @pocketspore
      @pocketspore 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@smarkslowplay3512I see what you're saying, but that's not what made WCW hot during their streak

  • @Mandrahale
    @Mandrahale 6 місяців тому +16

    An absolute narcissist who lacks talent is the worst kind. Those WCW shows without the editorial guardrails of a Vince McMahon type were putrid. They were fighting for control of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Jim is proven right once again…

  • @danpoutsma1351
    @danpoutsma1351 6 місяців тому +19

    Guy Evans interviewed over 120 people who were directly involved with both Turner and WCW for the Nitro book, which is somewhere around 600 pages. It's not just a regurgitation of what was printed in the dirtsheets like the Death of WCW book by Alvarez and RD Reynolds. It's the story from the people who were actually there .

  • @bjg8638
    @bjg8638 6 місяців тому +80

    Shitstain came off just as bad as everyone not named Bret Hart Booker T or DDP in this series lol

    • @andrewsimpson6220
      @andrewsimpson6220 6 місяців тому +40

      Konnan has been coming across pretty great so far.

    • @bjg8638
      @bjg8638 6 місяців тому +16

      ​@andrewsimpson6220 that's true. Forgot about Konnan.

    • @danpoutsma1351
      @danpoutsma1351 6 місяців тому +11

      The controller guy for Turner too: Dick Cheatham. He seems pretty honest and likeable, despite his name.

    • @nsanelycrazy
      @nsanelycrazy 6 місяців тому +6

      Bischoff didn't really come off so bad. He at least has owned up to his mistakes.

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 6 місяців тому

      @@danpoutsma1351 Which one was he? He wasn't the one that could never remember how anything went down when someone put the blame on him, was he?

  • @joshhildreth
    @joshhildreth 6 місяців тому +47

    The UA-cam views on this may outdraw last week's AEW Dynamite.

  • @henrikschmidt3964
    @henrikschmidt3964 6 місяців тому +35

    I 100% agree with Corny. Whenever someone (repeatedly) states 'I'll be honest with you', alarm bells should go off.
    And yes, Vince Russo was a horrible on-air performer.

  • @nerdrage557
    @nerdrage557 6 місяців тому +23

    At this point I could give two shits who killed wcw it's just sad it's not still here thriving and going up against WWE in 2024. So many mistakes could have been avoided and yet no they get bought out for pennies on the dollar

  • @WyattHolliday
    @WyattHolliday 6 місяців тому +18

    I really do miss wrestling magazines from the 80’s and 90’s. Good times.

  • @lemotek
    @lemotek 6 місяців тому +22

    ANOTHER CORNETTE BANGER! I CAN FEEL IT!

  • @andisuge
    @andisuge 6 місяців тому +9

    Disco and Konnan confirmed the Booker T story. In a room Russo asked who should be the champ Hogan Jarrett or Book and everybody in the room said Booker. It might be the only 100% true story Russo ever told.

  • @Blocparty01
    @Blocparty01 6 місяців тому +10

    I think even people who hate Cornette must think Russo is a prick after seeing documentaries like this

  • @josephD32
    @josephD32 6 місяців тому +14

    The craziest thing is that Russo wanted to book his show to look like the Jerry Springer show, when Jerry Springer himself has said multiple times his show was the stupidest show on television.

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust 5 місяців тому +1

      Russo thought wrestling was stupid, so it wouldn't have mattered.

  • @EdBanana-nj6yq
    @EdBanana-nj6yq 6 місяців тому +21

    I’ll take Bischoff over Russo every day of the week and twice on Sunday

    • @Sky_Blaze
      @Sky_Blaze 6 місяців тому +5

      They're both jokes

  • @sethreed15_
    @sethreed15_ 6 місяців тому +17

    12/10 on the artwork Travis

  • @MarvinT0606
    @MarvinT0606 6 місяців тому +21

    Russo deserved the kick Bret Hart got from Goldberg

    • @SteelSunday
      @SteelSunday 6 місяців тому +5

      well he did get speared into the guardrail and concussed as well too bad he was wearing the football helmet.

  • @philsie204
    @philsie204 6 місяців тому +14

    "You put your down down, you thrust your pelvis, HUH! You thrust your pelvis, HUH!" - Jim Cornduck

  • @hoopjab
    @hoopjab 6 місяців тому +12

    Please have Jim make review videos on russos nitros

    • @WyattHolliday
      @WyattHolliday 6 місяців тому +2

      I’d rather see that than AEW reviews.

    • @DinkiDi-i9q
      @DinkiDi-i9q 6 місяців тому +5

      That would be legendary.

    • @diegorivas1991
      @diegorivas1991 6 місяців тому +5

      That would be the ultimate torture for him or being brainwashed like Alex was on The Clockwork Orange.

  • @jessemanna912
    @jessemanna912 6 місяців тому +12

    There's not a wrestling podcast even close to as good as this

  • @mattmorgan2534
    @mattmorgan2534 6 місяців тому +9

    Because Guy Evans is the first person to write a story about Monday Nitro that included the Turner network executives. It’s actually a really simple reason why it was so successful. Because everybody else like your boy from the observer, Brian Alvarez, just buried the bookers for demise.you can’t just overlook the time Warner/Aol merger and then when the bubble popped. Are you shitting me?

  • @sirjer73
    @sirjer73 6 місяців тому +7

    The line of the year, " Grizzly Adams in the Insane Clown Posse!" 😅😂

  • @ritchardo6459
    @ritchardo6459 6 місяців тому +9

    I would pay cold hard cash to have Jim review each Nitro from 1999 through to the end. Start off at the Humvee and then descend into the madness from there.

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 4 місяці тому

      You couldn’t pay Jim enough to watch that circus. Even old Vince McMahon wouldn’t be able to pay Jim enough to watch that madness. And even if he could he wouldn’t because even Vince isn’t that cruel

  • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
    @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 6 місяців тому +9

    Jim Cornette not wanting Guy Evans in the doc while calling every single other person involved a liar or a grifter is crazy.

    • @TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
      @TheGuyInTheCheapSeats 5 місяців тому +3

      Good point. And I want to know what movie he saw David Arquette in and thought he must be a genius.

  • @willjohnboy
    @willjohnboy 6 місяців тому +62

    Booker t was pissed at this show and rightfully so.
    Edit: who killed wcw not the drive- thru or experience 😂

    • @danpoutsma1351
      @danpoutsma1351 6 місяців тому +11

      I'm not sure why. I think he's come off quite well on the show so far. But then again, they pick and choose what they want to edit to push a certain narrative, present someone a certain way, or just to make the program look juicier. JR and others have had the same issue with the Dark Side guys

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 6 місяців тому +2

      Why was booker t pissed

    • @willjohnboy
      @willjohnboy 6 місяців тому

      ​@@pleaseshutup7053he found out some info regarding what was planned before he won his first wcw world title check out his podcast called hall of fame.

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 6 місяців тому +1

      @@pleaseshutup7053 Maybe he said a lot more and they cut it and just put up the racial stuff.

    • @jaredgarrison333
      @jaredgarrison333 6 місяців тому +8

      Booker said he will never appear on one of these shows again.

  • @ReapFamily
    @ReapFamily 6 місяців тому +6

    Can we get Jim reading more Russo TNA formats, please?! That was one of my favorite segments of all time.

  • @YT-Trenton
    @YT-Trenton 5 місяців тому +8

    It seems most people blame the AOL-TW merger for WCW's downfall. Although I agree it may have been the nail on the coffin, WCW was already losing a lot of money before the merge. Eric Bischoff was a major reason for that by giving ridiculous contracts to the top Wrestlers. There were even guys/wrestlers getting paid 6-figures a year to just sit around and do nothing half the time. Money mismanagement was probably the biggest reason for WCW's downfall.

    • @joshuasteward6097
      @joshuasteward6097 3 місяці тому +1

      AOL cut their budget, made them go PG, and dumped losses from other departments on WCW. Ted Turner is the reason WCW lasted.

    • @joshuasteward6097
      @joshuasteward6097 3 місяці тому

      Corny, those are pay or play contracts. They were standard in Turner.

  • @matthewhostetter8974
    @matthewhostetter8974 6 місяців тому +46

    I heard Shitstain said the word "Bro" 300 times in this episode. Thank god this isn't a drinking game.

    • @Howyanow
      @Howyanow 6 місяців тому +4

      “BrOOo”

    • @DXSUCKIT1990
      @DXSUCKIT1990 6 місяців тому +5

      Holy fuck, I was high and weed didn't even make him any less insufferable

    • @tommyfraz.
      @tommyfraz. 6 місяців тому +1

      DSOTR social media team put out a post about the total count 😂

    • @iamdb1990
      @iamdb1990 6 місяців тому

      not the episode, the entire interview, which I call bullshit on, it's 300 per minute

    • @jm-xu3vw
      @jm-xu3vw 5 місяців тому

      Bro

  • @whiteythaboss407
    @whiteythaboss407 6 місяців тому +9

    God I've been waiting for this!!..
    Travis heckle you're the f'n man!!

  • @ninjalo3752
    @ninjalo3752 6 місяців тому +6

    Trust me, when they get to the ad at the end, don't cut it off. Listen to the whole thing.

  • @butkusfan23
    @butkusfan23 6 місяців тому +7

    Between Arquette and the gimmicked Statue of Liberty that would fall apart in guys' hands without even hitting someone with it, it's no wonder WCW drowned and floundered.

  • @lawrencericho3635
    @lawrencericho3635 6 місяців тому +9

    Bischoff said it BEST.
    WCW died a death of a thousand cuts

    • @aaronknautz7364
      @aaronknautz7364 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. But some of the cuts came from big machetes. Lol

  • @Reese13
    @Reese13 6 місяців тому +31

    I think Russo believes if he doesn't end EVERY DAMN SENTENCE with "Bro", he'll spontaneously combust or something 😂. Jesus! 🙄

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 6 місяців тому +5

      He has a verbal tick like that pimp that can't stop adding "know what I'm sayin'?"

    • @chriscornelius2518
      @chriscornelius2518 6 місяців тому +2

      It is terrible.

    • @CyberHangman
      @CyberHangman 6 місяців тому

      He loved giving himself "brojobs" back in the day

  • @petemorris1885
    @petemorris1885 6 місяців тому +6

    The funny thing is, Ferrara wasn’t even successful enough to write Duckman. He had nothing to do with that show. The peak of his career was Weird Science the tv show…

    • @analiysanchez9949
      @analiysanchez9949 6 місяців тому +1

      Cornette has been telling that lie for years. Not sure why Last doesn’t take two seconds to figure that out

  • @LawrenceW78
    @LawrenceW78 6 місяців тому +9

    I have never clicked on a Jim Cornette video so fast in my life

  • @thad8899
    @thad8899 6 місяців тому +4

    Jim is fucking hilarious! The sarcastic “Russo is up there with Medgar Evers … he’s a civil rights icon.” 😂

  • @gag141
    @gag141 6 місяців тому +3

    Corny waiting for that RKO out of nowhere while watching golf is something that came to mind. Cause i would watch it for that too

  • @davindavis3085
    @davindavis3085 6 місяців тому +5

    I agree with 99% of everything Jim Cornette says but I wouldn't say Bischoff "fell into a bit of luck for 2 years."' He had some really great ideas especially while competing with his number one enemy: WWE (F) at the time. Going live against a taped RAW, giving away results to their show, taking a NJPW idea and turning it into the nWo - one of the hottes angles in history, creating new stars like DDP when he didnt even want to, Scott Hall coming up with Crow Sting and Bischoff allowing it, Goldbergs winning streak, etc. The absolute truth is, when Bischoff left WCW, thats when WCW REALLY went down the shitter. He made mistakes, but imagine if Russo was made WCW President in 1996. We probably would've lost an extra 5 years of WCW.

  • @RandomAssaultPodcast
    @RandomAssaultPodcast 6 місяців тому +3

    Why does Cornette think they had anything to do with Duckman? I can't find his or Ed Ferrara's name anywhere on IMDB?

    • @analiysanchez9949
      @analiysanchez9949 6 місяців тому +2

      Cuz Cornette is lying or is just plain wrong about that! Ferrara wrote for the tv show weird science

  • @dmc5302
    @dmc5302 6 місяців тому +4

    Jim's Air conditioning analogy perfectly described my workplace atm EXACTLY......Bro

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 6 місяців тому +30

    Meanwhile you have Al Snow on Russo’s podcast acting like a wrestling savant when he never drew a dime and thinks Russo was good at what he did.

    • @eamonwright7488
      @eamonwright7488 6 місяців тому +6

      His voice kills me. Constant sounding like he’s huffing frion. I guess Russo is an actual Air conditioner like cornette said.

    • @tommyfraz.
      @tommyfraz. 6 місяців тому +15

      I think Al Snow has some credibility when it comes to training, and building match psychology. But he lost me when was gave Hannibal any credibility.

    • @pwnranger3496
      @pwnranger3496 6 місяців тому +1

      Al Snow likes to ask loaded questions and then tell you you're wrong no matter what your answer is

    • @alvis-rd2ht
      @alvis-rd2ht 5 місяців тому +1

      WHAT DOES EVERYBODY WANT???

    • @sheepdavis
      @sheepdavis 2 місяці тому

      Plenty of guys treated as jobbers have massive credibility despite having good relationships with people like Shitstain. Al Snow never drew a dime because he was never presented as anything but midcard.

  • @FrankC71
    @FrankC71 6 місяців тому +3

    I now doubt the reported Quote Vince McMahon said when Russo told him he was leaving for wCw which was "This is the most devistating call I have ever gotten"

  • @nickperry1730
    @nickperry1730 6 місяців тому +4

    Did Ferrara actually write for Duckman? I can only find him being credited as being a writer for Weird Science.

    • @analiysanchez9949
      @analiysanchez9949 6 місяців тому +3

      He did NOT. It was the tv show weird science

  • @timothy4664
    @timothy4664 6 місяців тому +7

    Holy shit. Paddy Chayefsky.
    Jim, I will defend you to the end of my life. That is such a deep cut. God I respect the hell out of you

  • @GregHuffman1987
    @GregHuffman1987 6 місяців тому +2

    Édouard Carpentier reference! (around 41:11) i actually know who that is now after reading death of the territories and the squares circle

  • @DarkBlueBaker
    @DarkBlueBaker 6 місяців тому +12

    This episode made me appreciate my autographed restraining order even more. Russo the demo god 😂

  • @ctwhiskey3058
    @ctwhiskey3058 6 місяців тому +8

    Been waiting for this damn reaction for like 4 days now 😂😂, dont let me down Corny!

  • @garethcullen9604
    @garethcullen9604 5 місяців тому +3

    1997 was the very last year I truly enjoyed WWF wrestling. I still watched until 2001, but it was never the same to me.

  • @emmahenry1383
    @emmahenry1383 6 місяців тому +21

    Ahh just saw this pop up 11mins ago! Popcorn and an iced Coffee on the ready!

  • @krashkow
    @krashkow 6 місяців тому +8

    This series needs to become an omnibus when it's over.

    • @BabyCee713
      @BabyCee713 6 місяців тому +2

      Yep! I need 4 hours of Jim going over who really killed WCW

  • @Giveme1goodreason
    @Giveme1goodreason 6 місяців тому +4

    41:00 Goldberg ended Bret’s career. But Russo thinks Goldberg was intentionally hurting. Just by comparing hart and Russo
    We can assume Goldberg is right he didn’t mean it.

  • @TheFailedmessiah
    @TheFailedmessiah 6 місяців тому +9

    I think just putting it all on Russo is giving him too much credit.

  • @mikecomerford1986
    @mikecomerford1986 6 місяців тому +14

    26 fucking times he said BRO....
    B R O !

    • @ScottRen14
      @ScottRen14 6 місяців тому +2

      It felt like so many more

    • @scottyoung7414
      @scottyoung7414 6 місяців тому +1

      See what you don’t unda-staaaand bro, is wrest-a-ling needs char-ac-ters

    • @mikecomerford1986
      @mikecomerford1986 6 місяців тому

      @@scottyoung7414 'better than 80% of the locker room" where at a gay bathhouse?

  • @akamiguelsanchez9985
    @akamiguelsanchez9985 6 місяців тому +5

    Wasn’t the rumour at the time that Scott had a heated argument with Siegel’s niece and then he was done

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust 5 місяців тому

      Scott and her got friendly again like 16 years later.

  • @zlinedavid
    @zlinedavid 5 місяців тому +2

    “He went to college in Evansville, make of that what you will.”
    I grew up in the 812 area code, and on behalf of all the fine residents of that area, Jim, I have only two words for you in response to that quip:
    You’re right.

  • @petefrenzel7296
    @petefrenzel7296 6 місяців тому +10

    Russo said with his own mouth that he was writing a "TEL-LEV-VIS-SION SHOW", not a wrestling show (no one talks like that except Russo). He wanted to write the Jerry Springer Show, but was on a TV show that happened to have Wrestling, so he did wrote Jerry Springer stuff into the show anyways.

    • @chriscornelius2518
      @chriscornelius2518 6 місяців тому

      Yeah it was definitely a term I have heard from these interviews, known as Crash TV.

    • @LakefrontStudios
      @LakefrontStudios 6 місяців тому +3

      The difference was that the Jerry Springer Show was a better booked show than the garbage Russo wrote for WCW 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @SteelSunday
      @SteelSunday 6 місяців тому +2

      @@LakefrontStudios The thing about the Jerry Springer show was you had a fresh bunch of wacky guests/characters each week. It didn't matter how crazy it all got or how bad you made a person look or what twist happened., They were not coming back next week unlike wrestling if Ken Shamrock sleeps or fancies his own sister, it doesn't vanish that follows him around.

  • @mattspychala7251
    @mattspychala7251 6 місяців тому +9

    Duckman! Missed that show

  • @smithandrew051
    @smithandrew051 6 місяців тому +12

    The episode was actually pretty friendly to Russo.

    • @arami187
      @arami187 6 місяців тому +4

      Dark Side of the Ring was more brutal on Russo.
      Not as much as Cornette, but it's up there.

  • @ryansmith1228
    @ryansmith1228 6 місяців тому +2

    Guilty pleasure, I love Ready To Rumble haha. I quote it all the time. " Cold today, HOT TAMALE "

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 5 місяців тому +4

    I bet Cornette craps on Duckman because one of the characters is named Corny. lol

  • @rdtbrik1161
    @rdtbrik1161 6 місяців тому +7

    Duckman was such a weird, great cartoon

  • @lunarnut
    @lunarnut 6 місяців тому +5

    Corney as Duckman is just chef's kiss.

  • @HisBubbliness
    @HisBubbliness 6 місяців тому +3

    Putting Russo in charge of the creative is like putting your local Karen in charge of the supermarket just because she complains loud enough.

  • @ShredderLivesOn
    @ShredderLivesOn 6 місяців тому +8

    Guy Evans was one of the better talking heads to have involved. His book Nitro, was a really in depth historical look at the rise and fall of WCW.
    It was well researched, and he spoke to executives and senior management at TBS who were involved with the company for interviews on a side of it that we had never really heard from.
    Nitro also published full memos, and in depth details of changes that were made, how it impacted business, and the talent roster.
    It was a far better book than The Death of WCW ever was, as RD Reynolds and Bryan Alvarez relied mostly on third hand accounts, and reports in the Wrestling Observer as their sources.

  • @theBlueShred
    @theBlueShred 6 місяців тому +3

    Violent Russo and good buddy Shaggy 2 Ferrara captivated the world with their Carnival of Carnage wrestling.