He knew his mom was dangerous enough to know that she was the one trying to kill his fiancee and unborn, but still insists on having her around and refuses to defend OP. .. And was having a side piece whole tome with children, but upset OP is taking reigns of her life back.. 12 years wasted, but better she leave now than doom herself and child further with these wretched people.. And why are any of the redditors worried about him seeing OPs child?? He already has one he had in secret and likely more, leave her be
OP needs to ghost him. Never tell him where she is. Never let him have contact with her child. She would be putting that child in danger. That whole: If he shows that he's in therapy. Is BS. Therapy doesn't work on people like him.
@lindah3803 Therapy requires accountability of self and situation and willingness to change. He never intended to cut off his mom and only publicly stopped talking to her to OPs knowledge. She enables he control of others and while already having kids, still wants OPs to have control of both, too. She shouldn't have let slip she'd flee to her conuntry and was just moving states to make it harder to track back
Redditor: Cancelling the wedding is an overreaction. Er no it isn’t when he’s shown that he’ll never be fully rid of his mother, all he do is go lc/nc with her for a bit then when the dust has settled he brings her back into the fold, he has proven that he and his words can’t be trusted.
Honestly, at first I too thought she was jumping the gun calling everything quits when you hit the first snag.... but when OP shared it wasn't the first but a constant snag, I could think of no reason to stay
Last story- OP needs to call the police. What her sil did to OP’s baby is abuse. No one but OP has the right to do that & if OP chooses not to breastfeed that is her right & no one, not even the father gets to disrespect that. I don’t know why OP would even entertain anything a man or anyone else but their doctor has to say about it because what they think doesn’t matter at all. People are going to think whatever they want about you anyways so don’t be a people pleaser. Continue doing what’s right for you & your babies.
Story 2. Op should have listened to her husband when he voiced concerns about letting the sister around her babies. And to the men shaming her or people bullying her, fuck them. Do what you feel is best for YOUR babies. Lucy is insane. Restraining order. Also NC, ever.
People shaming OP for not breastfeeding, how would you feel if someone offered to get your wife pregnant if you couldn't? If you came home to your brother getting your wife pregnant as you can't? Not liking that hunh?
You know, in the last story I felt disgust about the OP sister, because there an issue in here. If OP sister never been pregnant, then she never produce milk, which is the most error people need to know. When a woman have a white liquid in the breast, but never been pregnant or gave birth, that liquid is like a toxin, but not milk. So breastfeeding a baby, who is obviously sick since birth, can cause her end, since the liquid isnt milk but something that can make her very less healthy than she already is. So, definitly OP is NTA, but she should move out before her sister have another of those episode attack and even try kidnapping the poor baby. She really need psycologic help, or else she going to cause problem to all the female family member who get pregnant.
Where did you get this information?? It is possible for women to be able to stimulate a milk supply with help from their doctor even if they have never been pregnant. Typically, it's not enough to feed a baby, so it is usually supplemented with formula, but many mothers do that anyway.
@@Jade-fs9kh Well a cousin of mine happen to have the same thing as op and her child also had it. Thought, when I ask her why dont let her older sister breastfeed her sometimes, she told me that, which is what her doctor told her.
Unless you are given hormonal therapy you cannot lactate. This would have to be approved by a doctor. What doctor would be ok with this. This is just really unbelievable b.s.
Story One: If leaving over her ex’s mom trying to kill her is an “overreaction”, I do NOT want to know what that redditor thinks a valid reaction is. Reddit will really tell people to leave over a broken glass one minute then be “uncertain” about a pregnant woman protecting herself the next 💀.
Lol right that redditor was like "you guys have been together 12 years, yeah she tried to kill you and your unborn child and your fiance did nothing about it in the long run but this is just a hiccup you're just over reacting. Your MIL has to try to kill you at least 5 times before separating is even an option." Honestly OP did the right thing, 12 years is a long time yes but the second someone would have tried killing me I would NOPE right out of there just like OP did. So glad someone thought the same way I did when I heard the comment in the video.
Ive been iron deficient my entire life. I was also a formula fed baby due to my feeding tube and the fact im adopted. No matter how much iron i was given my tiny little preemie ass was deficient. Im 30 in june and still deficient, sometimes people are just that way. Boob, no boob, it mattered not!
I'm not tripping here, right? Regardless of reasoning, what Story 2's OP's SIL did is SA, right? Even if she is lactating, going into a nursery and actually putting your nipple in a babies mouth is sexual assault! Also, police finding every excuse not to actually help when people call? Must be a day ending in 'y'.
@@Innerpandora In this case, it would be. If the baby needed to be breastfed by SIL (aka starved and no other option), that’s not SA. However, since SIL took it upon herself to breastfed a child that is not hers while having other means to feed the baby and zero permission from OP, it can be considered SA. It was to fulfill her own desire and idea of motherhood but not the needs of the child.
S1: I remember this story. I felt bad for the ex since at most he made a careless mistake, but after learning everything mil did, it's understandable that OP broke things off completely. The ex was always a momma's boy. Bet the mil also helped him cheat.
I lost a lot of sympathy for him once I learned that he was basically enabling his mother. I especially lost *_all_* sympathy when he became violent. He doesn't get to be this mad, especially after he cheated and enabled his mother's dangerous behavior.
Of course MIL knew about him cheating. That's probably why she tried to K OP. She wants her son with the AP and to take care of his kids that he has with her.
@@lindah3803 That's probably true. And then even the AP had the nerve to be mad at her for her baby daddy not wifing her up. That was his decision. He could have left her and married you but didn't. He's just a coward.
OMG what the sister did in the last story is beyond disgusting and is assault. So gross. Also, I've know too many women to tried to breastfeed, some could and even they used formula to give themselves rest.
S1) OP is NTA just a dumba$$ if this woman did all this while BF sat by and watched without doing anything should have been ur calling to leave and never talk to him again. But u are now pregnant wih his kid and are stuck with these awful people. Like i no longer feel bad for OP's like this bc who stays somewhere were they aren't wanted and continues to stay than bring a child into this storm.
In my opinion, she was an AH. But only to herself for not leaving after the first issue and continuing to stay in a very toxic and dangerous relationship.
... Am I the only one having a hard time understanding how the lady in story would could even love that guy? I mean even one of the things would be enough. But there's a decade of them plus constant azzaults and attempted myders? Guess it's a good thing that I don't get it?
mother in laws like this are part of the reason i never wanna get married i don’t wanna deal with someone else inane asylum 😅and why i refuse to do shared anything case im not being tarpped in a asylum like that
OP isn’t a native English speaker so she accidentally used both. I think her mistake was confusing the word ‘son’ with ‘child’? So the baby might be a daughter.
S1: ok when do we stop looking at everybody else and start looking at the op this is all her fault because she stayed and all she can say is I didn't see the signs of him cheating cheating was the least of her worries SMH
Story 2 - sick babies do need breast milk. they actually offer breast milk free but it's like frozen for women who help other women. But you have to be careful allegies can happen if a woman regular eats peanut butter and your kid has a peanut allergiey. But overall it's really a huge thing for sickly babies. Being a wet nurse isn't the end of the world. At the same time it would have been more impactful the first 2months of life though. So, you would have had to prepare for it going in that health issues might mean you don't produce enough or blah blah blah. Normally when you have twins and know you are going to have twins doctors/midwives have that convo before birth so you can get on a waiting list. hopefully both babies at least got some human colostrum. oh and crazy lady trying to randomly breast feed. Those IVF treats drive people super unstable. it's why I had issues with any hormanole changes can't even take some brith controls. they need to require therapy with them.
Story 1: right to cancel the wedding, wrong to not tell fiance first before cancelling. Cowardly actions like that are why men will never truky respect women
She should have just dumped him beforehand. Both MIL and spineless fiancee sound like AHs
I am half-ways through and I think they have quite a spine when it comes to show their racısm.
He knew his mom was dangerous enough to know that she was the one trying to kill his fiancee and unborn, but still insists on having her around and refuses to defend OP. ..
And was having a side piece whole tome with children, but upset OP is taking reigns of her life back..
12 years wasted, but better she leave now than doom herself and child further with these wretched people..
And why are any of the redditors worried about him seeing OPs child?? He already has one he had in secret and likely more, leave her be
OP needs to ghost him. Never tell him where she is. Never let him have contact with her child. She would be putting that child in danger. That whole: If he shows that he's in therapy. Is BS. Therapy doesn't work on people like him.
@lindah3803 Therapy requires accountability of self and situation and willingness to change. He never intended to cut off his mom and only publicly stopped talking to her to OPs knowledge. She enables he control of others and while already having kids, still wants OPs to have control of both, too. She shouldn't have let slip she'd flee to her conuntry and was just moving states to make it harder to track back
That poor mum in the last story, it’s not her fault but people are shaming her for needing to feed her babies with formula!
Redditor: Cancelling the wedding is an overreaction.
Er no it isn’t when he’s shown that he’ll never be fully rid of his mother, all he do is go lc/nc with her for a bit then when the dust has settled he brings her back into the fold, he has proven that he and his words can’t be trusted.
Honestly, at first I too thought she was jumping the gun calling everything quits when you hit the first snag.... but when OP shared it wasn't the first but a constant snag, I could think of no reason to stay
No one gets to tell you how to secure yourself after murder attempted on your and your childs life.
Last story- OP needs to call the police. What her sil did to OP’s baby is abuse. No one but OP has the right to do that & if OP chooses not to breastfeed that is her right & no one, not even the father gets to disrespect that. I don’t know why OP would even entertain anything a man or anyone else but their doctor has to say about it because what they think doesn’t matter at all. People are going to think whatever they want about you anyways so don’t be a people pleaser. Continue doing what’s right for you & your babies.
At the end it says they did but the police said its a family issue
Story 2. Op should have listened to her husband when he voiced concerns about letting the sister around her babies. And to the men shaming her or people bullying her, fuck them. Do what you feel is best for YOUR babies. Lucy is insane. Restraining order. Also NC, ever.
People shaming OP for not breastfeeding, how would you feel if someone offered to get your wife pregnant if you couldn't? If you came home to your brother getting your wife pregnant as you can't? Not liking that hunh?
1. You are right about OP's husband. His protective mode was fully engaged.
2. Lucy is definitely going through a mental break
Story 1: What the hell is wrong with OP to keep staying with this guy when she keeps getting exposed to all this abuse!?
You know, in the last story I felt disgust about the OP sister, because there an issue in here. If OP sister never been pregnant, then she never produce milk, which is the most error people need to know. When a woman have a white liquid in the breast, but never been pregnant or gave birth, that liquid is like a toxin, but not milk. So breastfeeding a baby, who is obviously sick since birth, can cause her end, since the liquid isnt milk but something that can make her very less healthy than she already is. So, definitly OP is NTA, but she should move out before her sister have another of those episode attack and even try kidnapping the poor baby. She really need psycologic help, or else she going to cause problem to all the female family member who get pregnant.
Where did you get this information?? It is possible for women to be able to stimulate a milk supply with help from their doctor even if they have never been pregnant. Typically, it's not enough to feed a baby, so it is usually supplemented with formula, but many mothers do that anyway.
@@Jade-fs9kh Well a cousin of mine happen to have the same thing as op and her child also had it. Thought, when I ask her why dont let her older sister breastfeed her sometimes, she told me that, which is what her doctor told her.
Unless you are given hormonal therapy you cannot lactate. This would have to be approved by a doctor. What doctor would be ok with this. This is just really unbelievable b.s.
This only possible with hormonal therapy by a medical doctor. This is total b.s.
S1)
Im sooooo confused is she having a boy or girl!?!? She says grandson then daughter, she,he, ..😵💫im so lost! Lol
Probably translation issues (OP's first language isn't English)
Story One: If leaving over her ex’s mom trying to kill her is an “overreaction”, I do NOT want to know what that redditor thinks a valid reaction is. Reddit will really tell people to leave over a broken glass one minute then be “uncertain” about a pregnant woman protecting herself the next 💀.
Lol right that redditor was like "you guys have been together 12 years, yeah she tried to kill you and your unborn child and your fiance did nothing about it in the long run but this is just a hiccup you're just over reacting. Your MIL has to try to kill you at least 5 times before separating is even an option." Honestly OP did the right thing, 12 years is a long time yes but the second someone would have tried killing me I would NOPE right out of there just like OP did. So glad someone thought the same way I did when I heard the comment in the video.
Ive been iron deficient my entire life. I was also a formula fed baby due to my feeding tube and the fact im adopted. No matter how much iron i was given my tiny little preemie ass was deficient. Im 30 in june and still deficient, sometimes people are just that way. Boob, no boob, it mattered not!
I'm not tripping here, right? Regardless of reasoning, what Story 2's OP's SIL did is SA, right? Even if she is lactating, going into a nursery and actually putting your nipple in a babies mouth is sexual assault!
Also, police finding every excuse not to actually help when people call? Must be a day ending in 'y'.
It’s not sexual assault calm the down
@@Innerpandora In this case, it would be. If the baby needed to be breastfed by SIL (aka starved and no other option), that’s not SA. However, since SIL took it upon herself to breastfed a child that is not hers while having other means to feed the baby and zero permission from OP, it can be considered SA. It was to fulfill her own desire and idea of motherhood but not the needs of the child.
@@mydeardoxy it’s not good but stop acting like the baby will be traumatized because someone else gave her/him milk
@Innerpandora I agree, the baby won't remember. I'm just saying it's still SA.
S1: I remember this story. I felt bad for the ex since at most he made a careless mistake, but after learning everything mil did, it's understandable that OP broke things off completely. The ex was always a momma's boy. Bet the mil also helped him cheat.
I lost a lot of sympathy for him once I learned that he was basically enabling his mother. I especially lost *_all_* sympathy when he became violent. He doesn't get to be this mad, especially after he cheated and enabled his mother's dangerous behavior.
Of course MIL knew about him cheating. That's probably why she tried to K OP. She wants her son with the AP and to take care of his kids that he has with her.
@@lindah3803 That's probably true. And then even the AP had the nerve to be mad at her for her baby daddy not wifing her up. That was his decision. He could have left her and married you but didn't. He's just a coward.
OMG what the sister did in the last story is beyond disgusting and is assault. So gross. Also, I've know too many women to tried to breastfeed, some could and even they used formula to give themselves rest.
S1) OP is NTA just a dumba$$ if this woman did all this while BF sat by and watched without doing anything should have been ur calling to leave and never talk to him again. But u are now pregnant wih his kid and are stuck with these awful people.
Like i no longer feel bad for OP's like this bc who stays somewhere were they aren't wanted and continues to stay than bring a child into this storm.
In my opinion, she was an AH. But only to herself for not leaving after the first issue and continuing to stay in a very toxic and dangerous relationship.
Story 2 who every is shaming and talking down to this woman go to hell. They r her children and nobody on her has any room to say anything.
Mama's boys never fail to suprise me.
Story 1:
OP’s -MiL- = KAREN 💯🙄😮💨😡🤬
OP’s EX = MAMA’S BOI
Man i stopped feeling bad for op she knowingly dated a mommas boy knowing how his mother is she'll be back woth him
... Am I the only one having a hard time understanding how the lady in story would could even love that guy? I mean even one of the things would be enough. But there's a decade of them plus constant azzaults and attempted myders? Guess it's a good thing that I don't get it?
Ex-mil: tried to unalive grandchild
Ex-mil: accused grandchild not of her blood
Also ex-mil: "don't take my grandson away from me!"
I was like, WHICH IS IT???
A son then a daughter then a son again lol.
I want to watch the rolling toys all day. 😊
First story feed is best.
HIS MOTHER TRIED TO KILL HER AND HER UNBORN BABY you want more reasons for her to protect her and her child. REALLY REALLY REALLY
The ml is inasne
Oh, she is
I think you meant mil.
mother in laws like this are part of the reason i never wanna get married i don’t wanna deal with someone else inane asylum 😅and why i refuse to do shared anything case im not being tarpped in a asylum like that
Is it grandson or granddaughter or is it both
OP isn’t a native English speaker so she accidentally used both. I think her mistake was confusing the word ‘son’ with ‘child’? So the baby might be a daughter.
S1: ok when do we stop looking at everybody else and start looking at the op this is all her fault because she stayed and all she can say is I didn't see the signs of him cheating cheating was the least of her worries SMH
Anyone know what Minecraft mod pack is in the background?
Son or daughter
Exactly.
12 year- were 12 year too much
Story 2 - sick babies do need breast milk. they actually offer breast milk free but it's like frozen for women who help other women. But you have to be careful allegies can happen if a woman regular eats peanut butter and your kid has a peanut allergiey. But overall it's really a huge thing for sickly babies. Being a wet nurse isn't the end of the world. At the same time it would have been more impactful the first 2months of life though. So, you would have had to prepare for it going in that health issues might mean you don't produce enough or blah blah blah. Normally when you have twins and know you are going to have twins doctors/midwives have that convo before birth so you can get on a waiting list. hopefully both babies at least got some human colostrum. oh and crazy lady trying to randomly breast feed. Those IVF treats drive people super unstable. it's why I had issues with any hormanole changes can't even take some brith controls. they need to require therapy with them.
Story 1: right to cancel the wedding, wrong to not tell fiance first before cancelling. Cowardly actions like that are why men will never truky respect women
Are u on crak? Did u hear how crazy the guy and his mom was
@@arjundhaliwal8853Rusty must be on something.
Story 1 might be fake since OP keeps changing the gender of their kid
She isn't that great with English.
@@professorrosenstock5026
Apparently nobody is good with English. It’s fake dude. Lol
Nah I don’t like being THAT guy but
Story 1 isn’t just fake, it’s like, Super fake
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