The other problem too is that 2k is so heavily monetized now that kids/teenagers no longer play the game. Back in the good ole days of 2k, the main demographics for the game were teenagers. But no parent is gonna give their kid $200 dollars for a virtual pay-to-win basketball game every year. So now the game has a niche fanbase of adults who keep the game afloat by spending $500 a year on 2k. AND they don’t have time to play and get better at the game, so they’re constantly selling and making the randoms experience god-awful. I promise you if teenagers played 2k again, it would raise the average skill level of the community because this fanbase is ass and toxic when it comes to this game
me and all my boys used to be on 2k for hours every single day , now none of us play 2k . I do miss going into rec with all 5 of us for hours on end but the game just isn't fun anymore ontop of costing so much money to even start
Ong even on 85+ speed,Acceleration or speed with ball it doesn’t matter the player is still more slower and stiff its only the animations that matters which is awful
Facts. Been playing 2k since 2K2 on Dreamcast... 13 was the real last great 2k. 2k14 was great on next gen, but like your said the micro transactions ruined the entire deal. My career I haven't even booted up since 2k16, and they fr haven't even added any true new classic teams since what, 2k12? they added the 19 Raptors and the 17 Warriors a few yrs back and even then TO had half the roster. I'll never understand why they can literally add an entire league from 35/45 years ago, but can't update the classic teams? They got 6 MJ teams, a trash 06 Memphis, and 04 Pistons literally missing the two key players on the squad, but can't give us the Dwight Magic? or the 93 Suns or 83 Sixers? etc? I play now for the my eras, but facts 2K fell into the Madden mold... make this game worse and more expensive every single year. 🤦🏾♂️
@@88949597 it was definitely more about experience rather than spending money on that experience to make it fun it’s also just pure content at this point like 2K is entirely too barebones with not having competitors anymore
Honestly 2k started to fall off in terms of fun when they decided to focus on comp/sweats/cheesers/dribble gawds and nerf things to limit them instead of upping the defensive contact animations. They made dribbling harder, defensive anticipation means nothing in this game. Slow unresponsive gameplay.
Facts like this and the green only when this game has latency offline mode is ridiculous. They decided oh instead of making it fun and hitting a white from time to time to you hit nothing unless you’re perfect it’s kinda sad to me cause it’s a game with hella latency and other problems that mess with your timing. I think it’s why the rise of zens came on cause now you got guys who are tired of the small green windows and the constant changing of shot times and latency problems it’s a recipe for just wanting to throw my controller
@@Frosty1026broo that latency is soo annoying and shot timing changes from time to time as well …i mean no 1 is bad at the game most of the content creators are partnered with 2k so the new dribble styles and shooting types was brought up with them soo them knowing how to dribble n shoot is normal its like a project work u did on ur own explaining it is easier..I really don’t blame people with zens cause everyone wants to have fun on the game..playing a normal my career games u could go 70-80% from 3 cause there is Noo latencies but in the city 20% hmm
What’s crazy is it’s like they know how terrible the gameplay is because they pretty much force people to get around the paywall it’s like they want ppl to play the game but playing the game has 0 incentives u barely get vc from mc and pro am/online play especially enough to get anything in swags or upgrade ur player they know the games bad and it became a blatant cash grab (critics literally called it a big cash grab/advertisement central)
Thanks to 2K I discovered the love for basketball in South Africa basketball hasn't blown up like soccer or Rugby. Watching Chris Smoove play 2K and covering NBA highlights got me falling in love with basketball. There are some positives to the game but I do agree with the ridiculousness of spending Soo much money for VC.
The fall of 2k was the fall of nba live since 2k no longer had no competition they just got lazier due to people still willing to shell out money for the only nba videogame franchise on the market rn
If u enjoyed 2K16 then you'd probably like 2K19 as well. I loved 2K16 and 2K19. 2K13 and 14 were cool too(some fan favourites). I really ain't enjoying 2K24. it's so bland and I actually enjoy the career modes that give u a story/ reason to ball. Coz I enjoy the life outside the basket ball substance that makes ur invest in ur player in the first place as opposed to the same old repetitive online park stuff.
My first 2k I bought since 19 but I returned it so fast 150$ just to get to an 85 is highway robbery and it’s not enjoyable without spending money like every part of the game feels like a cash grab surprised ain’t no season passes yet
I did the same and greatly regret it last time I played 2k was 2k21 and my my player in McCareer actually was hard but I regret spending money on this wack game
17 was my favorite fr. I have to laugh thinking back on 19. Playing at the arcade overseas in the story mode. My buddy goes "bro why am I playing a basketball game within a basketball game?" ☠️🤣 21 was the last time it wasn't completely meh with a story fr. I didn't even play 24 at all.
Ppl don’t realize he’s actually spitting bout the complaining part. Think back to ur favourite 2k. Now think of it in its prime. Everyone was complaining about it. 2k16 was fucking trashed on for months on release and everyone went back to 15. Another game they complained about. Suddenly it’s the best and you miss it.
@@yscharsitynah if i’m on youtube i want longer content. if i want clips ill go to tiktok. im just sayin dont not make a long video just for that reason
This is where it went down hill for me also. They turned a basketball game into an rpg with this. Instead of having players with just high attritbutes in different areas, some being way better than others it’s like they put an old school madden card boost of some star players and called it badges. It completely eliminates skill out the game. I remember back on 2k10 if u had phx against lal u could best lal if u we’re genuinely good with phx. People talk about the modes but for me it’s the gameplay that makes it bad.
I don't know about 2k24 or the upcoming 25, but in 2k23, you can get 16k - 20k vc a day if you set it up correctly. This is probably why certain accessories are so expensive.
I havent even bothered with mycareer since 2k19 or 20. I played a ton of myteam and myleague in 19, 20 and 22 which I had fun with. I wish EA never stopped making their NBA LIVE games so we could at least have some alternative...
What went wrong- check the old wishlist videos where all the comments are talking about driving to games getting a gf in game becoming a rapper etc. the community didn’t want gameplay and story- they wanted a sims sim and myteam micros. So 2k delivered. Trash toxic idiot community happened to 2k.
I been playing NBA games since TV Sports Basketball by Cinemaware. 2k supassed NBA Live in 2k3. 2k10 and 2k11 were peak [before micro transactions] and I stopped playing at 12 and came back for 23... Currently got 1.3k hours in 2k24 purely playing Solo REC Centre. But yeah, game is just at it's core a horrible experience without paying VC. I learnt how to play so I play as god intended and 60 overall that bitch in the REC center 😂
2k19 amd 20 had problems but they weren’t that bad 2k21 was the real down fall 2k18 was a prelude for the future lmao i’m surprised 19 and 20 was decent
Very well said im so confused what to do in my career mode that I even watched some guides like rpgs lol I just want to play my created player to play the league not play gta online
I have 2k16 didn’t get super in depth with my career mode etc but such fun times with that game same with 2k13. I actually didn’t like 2k12 thought it was super hard. 2k11 didn’t play much but heard ppl say that’s a great 2k. We need NBA live to make a comeback so 2k can actually bring a good product. My first nba video game was NBA Live 09
gameplay is good, everything else about it is horrible , represents everything thats bad about the current video game industry. The problem is, every year they sell vc.. no matter what they do. Its a successful operation for 2k, its a major cash cow.. no matter how greedy 2k is, people buy the 110$ package, the one that comes with vc.. Its been so bad i didn't even max out this year, first year i didn't max out at least one build, since the last 5 years.
The community ruined this game. All you see is UA-camrs makes these “meta builds” and find ways to cheese dribble, speed boost because they have no skill on how to actually get open. The game isn’t designed to be played the way it gets played.
I started playing 2k16, had a long break until 2020, been buying every one since, loved every game ,24 was weaker, but I still play 24 now, got to 96 and its fun now. I think you are bugging, you are just mad you are too old and dont have time to game 10 hours a day, that is why the games dont hit as much.
I miss 2k14 😭 I’ve been playing since 2k10 ….2k24 broke me 💯 2k13,2k14,2k16,2k19,2k20 last gen 2k22 was decent next gen 2k23 was overwhelming but decent BUT ! 2k24 IS THE WORST 2k of all time I promise worst then 21 ! Worst then 18 ! Worst then 17 ! They need to go back to Arcadey game get away from this simulation style 💯💯💯
They also didnt have any competition so when your the only basketball game out then you really dont have to make them better cause you have no choice to buy 2K.
the game is actually really good if yall would give offline a chance. i literally only ever play myleauge and the game is in a really good state in my opinion
They got inflation in 2K
literally😂
This the first 2k I spent money on
👎🏽👎🏽 @@Enysis
😂
The fact that “Play Now” isn’t at the top of the list when you turn it on already let’s you know what’s wrong!
Exactly. I couldnt care less about all the grinding bs and just enjoy a basketball game
Facts. I overlooked it for the longest until you said that
@@youngchieffrom7th Bro its insane!!! Next thing you know it wont even be up there
@@seaneckhart9914yeah man I just wanna shoot some hoops with the Miami Heat. How did they manage to backtrack so much from 2K16?
The other problem too is that 2k is so heavily monetized now that kids/teenagers no longer play the game.
Back in the good ole days of 2k, the main demographics for the game were teenagers. But no parent is gonna give their kid $200 dollars for a virtual pay-to-win basketball game every year.
So now the game has a niche fanbase of adults who keep the game afloat by spending $500 a year on 2k. AND they don’t have time to play and get better at the game, so they’re constantly selling and making the randoms experience god-awful. I promise you if teenagers played 2k again, it would raise the average skill level of the community because this fanbase is ass and toxic when it comes to this game
me and all my boys used to be on 2k for hours every single day , now none of us play 2k . I do miss going into rec with all 5 of us for hours on end but the game just isn't fun anymore ontop of costing so much money to even start
I still don't understand how next gen 2k games your player moves slower, dribbling slower, and shooting random timing
Ong even on 85+ speed,Acceleration or speed with ball it doesn’t matter the player is still more slower and stiff its only the animations that matters which is awful
Yes and you can’t even make your own shots like the older 2ks either
Been playing 2K since 2K5 and I will say this capitalism and micro transactions ruined the game the most
Facts. Been playing 2k since 2K2 on Dreamcast... 13 was the real last great 2k.
2k14 was great on next gen, but like your said the micro transactions ruined the entire deal. My career I haven't even booted up since 2k16, and they fr haven't even added any true new classic teams since what, 2k12? they added the 19 Raptors and the 17 Warriors a few yrs back and even then TO had half the roster.
I'll never understand why they can literally add an entire league from 35/45 years ago, but can't update the classic teams? They got 6 MJ teams, a trash 06 Memphis, and 04 Pistons literally missing the two key players on the squad, but can't give us the Dwight Magic? or the 93 Suns or 83 Sixers? etc?
I play now for the my eras, but facts 2K fell into the Madden mold... make this game worse and more expensive every single year. 🤦🏾♂️
@@88949597 it was definitely more about experience rather than spending money on that experience to make it fun it’s also just pure content at this point like 2K is entirely too barebones with not having competitors anymore
@@88949597jameer Nelson not on 2k?
Even getting the game for free is a scam tbh it's annoying af. Good vid bro
LMAAAAOOOOOOOO appreciate it gang❤😂😂
Honestly 2k started to fall off in terms of fun when they decided to focus on comp/sweats/cheesers/dribble gawds and nerf things to limit them instead of upping the defensive contact animations. They made dribbling harder, defensive anticipation means nothing in this game. Slow unresponsive gameplay.
they started changing the whole game for 1% of players since 2k16 lol
Facts like this and the green only when this game has latency offline mode is ridiculous. They decided oh instead of making it fun and hitting a white from time to time to you hit nothing unless you’re perfect it’s kinda sad to me cause it’s a game with hella latency and other problems that mess with your timing. I think it’s why the rise of zens came on cause now you got guys who are tired of the small green windows and the constant changing of shot times and latency problems it’s a recipe for just wanting to throw my controller
@@Frosty1026broo that latency is soo annoying and shot timing changes from time to time as well …i mean no 1 is bad at the game most of the content creators are partnered with 2k so the new dribble styles and shooting types was brought up with them soo them knowing how to dribble n shoot is normal its like a project work u did on ur own explaining it is easier..I really don’t blame people with zens cause everyone wants to have fun on the game..playing a normal my career games u could go 70-80% from 3 cause there is Noo latencies but in the city 20% hmm
@@samueljames7781 exactly and even in offline they have this weird latency not as bad obviously but nothing like online it’s insane
13-16 were my favorite 2ks 🫡
Insane run they went on
What’s crazy is it’s like they know how terrible the gameplay is because they pretty much force people to get around the paywall it’s like they want ppl to play the game but playing the game has 0 incentives u barely get vc from mc and pro am/online play especially enough to get anything in swags or upgrade ur player they know the games bad and it became a blatant cash grab (critics literally called it a big cash grab/advertisement central)
Bro my favorite 2ks of all time is 2k16 and then 2k13.. idk why but those two games were extremely fun for me…
same here and 14 as well
12,13,14, and 16 are the best by far take me back pls
@@semperickyo 2k in those days were elite.
ever since 2k17! the game is just non injoyable
2k15 was my favorite, rival days was crazy. day one Old Town championship oh yeah, we won the park on the cruise ship 🔥
The shot meter killed 2k
Thanks to 2K I discovered the love for basketball in South Africa basketball hasn't blown up like soccer or Rugby.
Watching Chris Smoove play 2K and covering NBA highlights got me falling in love with basketball.
There are some positives to the game but I do agree with the ridiculousness of spending Soo much money for VC.
The fall of 2k was the fall of nba live since 2k no longer had no competition they just got lazier due to people still willing to shell out money for the only nba videogame franchise on the market rn
2k19 was good but 2k13 was my favourite I think that was when you create a legend
If u enjoyed 2K16 then you'd probably like 2K19 as well.
I loved 2K16 and 2K19. 2K13 and 14 were cool too(some fan favourites). I really ain't enjoying 2K24. it's so bland and I actually enjoy the career modes that give u a story/ reason to ball. Coz I enjoy the life outside the basket ball substance that makes ur invest in ur player in the first place as opposed to the same old repetitive online park stuff.
2k14 and 15 is the GOAT
16 better
What about 2k23? Lmao it the same game as 24 but is it the Jordan cover that made it good ?
2k19 was good ash and 2k20
2K need to add 2K8-2K10 dunk contest in new games and make a separate game mode
Nah fr f*ck 2k im done🤦🏿♂️(see y’all in September😔)
Nasty work
Bro said smoove signed to a 2k 360 deal …….classic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
VC prices for just clothes is stupid
We need to go back to basics with 25 like it was in 12 and 13
My favorite is playing with random teammates and they like already mad right when the game starts
2k14-2k16 will forever be my favourite
Ok dont disrespect 19 like that
I loved 19 and 22. 24 felt like a 2009 game (didnt play 20,21,23)
My first 2k I bought since 19 but I returned it so fast 150$ just to get to an 85 is highway robbery and it’s not enjoyable without spending money like every part of the game feels like a cash grab surprised ain’t no season passes yet
I did the same and greatly regret it last time I played 2k was 2k21 and my my player in McCareer actually was hard but I regret spending money on this wack game
17 was my favorite fr. I have to laugh thinking back on 19. Playing at the arcade overseas in the story mode. My buddy goes "bro why am I playing a basketball game within a basketball game?" ☠️🤣 21 was the last time it wasn't completely meh with a story fr. I didn't even play 24 at all.
This video had me dying ngl fire vid
You are one of the best up and coming UA-camrs
I remember just wanting to play my next game in 2K23, but I wasn't able to because I had to complete 15 missions first. 😂. Went back to PS2 and PSP.
i’d like to see 2k14-2k17 get a revival. Everyone play the older games and bring back the servers!
What went wrong with 2K? What didn't go wrong?
The real answer is the Community!!!! Thats what went wrong with 2k.
That 2k10 on the Wii hit different ngl 🤣💯.
I’m sayin💀😭💀
Ppl don’t realize he’s actually spitting bout the complaining part. Think back to ur favourite 2k. Now think of it in its prime. Everyone was complaining about it. 2k16 was fucking trashed on for months on release and everyone went back to 15. Another game they complained about. Suddenly it’s the best and you miss it.
Right. Ppl were complaining about 2k19 and 20, which I had the most fun with, and now some are reminiscing on them
Everything from 17 onwards has been pretty trash. Until era's was introduced@@KyleLowryRaptorsGOAT
I still enjoy playing 2K4-2K17, so much that I bought all those titles this year🌤️
You touched on a lot on this video definitely should’ve been longer
i wanted to but the attention span these days... you kno how it goes
@@yscharsitynah if i’m on youtube i want longer content. if i want clips ill go to tiktok. im just sayin dont not make a long video just for that reason
I feel you tbh
You tripping 2k19 so fun
Hidden gem fr
2k20 was by far my favorite. But 21 was awful.
yeah 21 was awful, especially on current gen. 20 was miles better
This is just tip of the iceberg Myteam situation is worse than my career
Thx for this video. 🤙🏽
I stopped when they introduced badges.
This is where it went down hill for me also. They turned a basketball game into an rpg with this. Instead of having players with just high attritbutes in different areas, some being way better than others it’s like they put an old school madden card boost of some star players and called it badges. It completely eliminates skill out the game. I remember back on 2k10 if u had phx against lal u could best lal if u we’re genuinely good with phx. People talk about the modes but for me it’s the gameplay that makes it bad.
used to be in middle school talking about nba 2k17 dropping and how much fun it was gonna be
EA save us
Can confirm 2k16 is top 2 not 2.
I don't know about 2k24 or the upcoming 25, but in 2k23, you can get 16k - 20k vc a day if you set it up correctly. This is probably why certain accessories are so expensive.
I got 2K20 when it was free
I got 2K23 when it was free
I'll get 2K26 when it's free
I been playing 2k since 2k2 bro, back when nba live was 2k
Ive been rocking the brown shirt sweats ever since 19
5:17 this shi had me crying 😭
I havent even bothered with mycareer since 2k19 or 20. I played a ton of myteam and myleague in 19, 20 and 22 which I had fun with. I wish EA never stopped making their NBA LIVE games so we could at least have some alternative...
Good video, fam. Don't change up when your channel blow up.
What went wrong- check the old wishlist videos where all the comments are talking about driving to games getting a gf in game becoming a rapper etc. the community didn’t want gameplay and story- they wanted a sims sim and myteam micros. So 2k delivered. Trash toxic idiot community happened to 2k.
The main downfall of 2k is the community.. that's the number 1 problem..
Bro u was spot on with this video, it kills me hiw people say 2k20 was the best, wtf was they playing, 2k def went down after 2k17
It wasn’t the best 2k, but it was, imo, the last decent/playable one (mainly cuz of quarantine)
I been playing NBA games since TV Sports Basketball by Cinemaware. 2k supassed NBA Live in 2k3. 2k10 and 2k11 were peak [before micro transactions] and I stopped playing at 12 and came back for 23... Currently got 1.3k hours in 2k24 purely playing Solo REC Centre.
But yeah, game is just at it's core a horrible experience without paying VC. I learnt how to play so I play as god intended and 60 overall that bitch in the REC center 😂
Thanks to you I did not buy 2k24 lol great vid
appreciate you glad i could save you money❤😂
Nothing but facts the 2K community is toxic ASF it’s at the level of Call of Duty and GTA V back in the day
2k19 amd 20 had problems but they weren’t that bad 2k21 was the real down fall 2k18 was a prelude for the future lmao i’m surprised 19 and 20 was decent
Accurate
yeah I actually had fun on 19 and 20. 21 was unplayable.
when is 2k 2.99? I wanna buy it then too
I played since the 2k8 and I agree with all of what you’re saying
The only reason why I agree with the community part is because I went undercover ones are a Brown shirt 60 ovr and nobody wanted to play with me
People using zens in play now online
There a lot more
And 2k19 was mid so I played madden most of the time for 2 years 2k18 and 2k19
Very well said im so confused what to do in my career mode that I even watched some guides like rpgs lol I just want to play my created player to play the league not play gta online
2K19 was 🔥 bro..,
nah fr tho they messed it up. Great vid bro keep up the work ❤❤❤
Appreciate it gang❤️❤️
I have 2k16 didn’t get super in depth with my career mode etc but such fun times with that game same with 2k13.
I actually didn’t like 2k12 thought it was super hard.
2k11 didn’t play much but heard ppl say that’s a great 2k.
We need NBA live to make a comeback so 2k can actually bring a good product.
My first nba video game was NBA Live 09
Ronnie2k is the basketball equivalent of a culture vulture 100%
WWE 2K > NBA 2K
gameplay is good, everything else about it is horrible , represents everything thats bad about the current video game industry. The problem is, every year they sell vc.. no matter what they do. Its a successful operation for 2k, its a major cash cow.. no matter how greedy 2k is, people buy the 110$ package, the one that comes with vc.. Its been so bad i didn't even max out this year, first year i didn't max out at least one build, since the last 5 years.
I still play 2k17 on PS3
The community ruined this game. All you see is UA-camrs makes these “meta builds” and find ways to cheese dribble, speed boost because they have no skill on how to actually get open. The game isn’t designed to be played the way it gets played.
I believe u will be a future big content creator
Appreciate that gang that’s what I strive to do❤️
Straight pure facts
Great video, I don’t understand why you have only 100
Views. Wish you luck, you deserve it ❤
appreciate that gang❤
i only get on 2k nowadays just to play my league honestly
Downfall started when Sega Sports became 2k sports.
I downloaded 2k24 on the V, played it for ten minutes and uninstalled. Would rather play Madden and that's saying something
My grinding spending 201 hours on 2k23 to get 92 overall and complete the whole story/ The Mf's who spend 200 bucks to get to level 92 💀
Mane missed one of the greatest 2k 19 cuz of 18 damn I played 19 thru the pandemic
Nah 2k20 was fire
go ahead drop a 20 minute video I will def watch that
2k17 was the best
How is it the problem
how bro only got 129 subs? better than most 2k yters out there
NBA2K12-NBA2K17 the best in my opinion 💯
That’s what happens when fanboys spend money on virtual money. It’s the communities fault
I started playing 2k16, had a long break until 2020, been buying every one since, loved every game ,24 was weaker, but I still play 24 now, got to 96 and its fun now. I think you are bugging, you are just mad you are too old and dont have time to game 10 hours a day, that is why the games dont hit as much.
Bro we just older now
2k18 was the last good 2k
High as heII. Fortnite saved 2018
Nawl 2k21 was the last good one
I miss 2k14 😭 I’ve been playing since 2k10 ….2k24 broke me 💯 2k13,2k14,2k16,2k19,2k20 last gen 2k22 was decent next gen 2k23 was overwhelming but decent BUT ! 2k24 IS THE WORST 2k of all time I promise worst then 21 ! Worst then 18 ! Worst then 17 ! They need to go back to Arcadey game get away from this simulation style 💯💯💯
pay to win is the future we're never getting those days back sadly
At least the music was good on 17.
Two words “player market”
They also didnt have any competition so when your the only basketball game out then you really dont have to make them better cause you have no choice to buy 2K.
its not we getting old bro the top 2k creators back then was in there 20s and way older then us now the game jus bad
it’s not nostalgia at all it’s literally everything else u talked about
I’ve been playing 2k since 2k7 and I agree the last good 2k was 17 I will not be buying 2k25 where’s gta 6 at
Deffy not getfing 2k25 😅 ever
the game is actually really good if yall would give offline a chance. i literally only ever play myleauge and the game is in a really good state in my opinion
2k16 goat park went dumbb
Best of all time