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  • This one was a fighter ! Why don't you put it in the vacuum ?
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  • @deelanders6132
    @deelanders6132 4 роки тому +53

    The whole process of this guy is a total shitshow. It's fun tho, super creative, amazing art with those shells. Well done.

    • @janelloyd4332
      @janelloyd4332 4 роки тому +22

      Not sure quite what a shitshow is...but I thought he made a fantastic job

    • @MonCappy
      @MonCappy 4 роки тому +14

      Not really. I think part of it is that he was working with materials he wasn't familiar with and it caused issues. The vase came out beautifully once completed.

    • @ull893
      @ull893 4 роки тому +21

      @@janelloyd4332 you are right. He made an effort. Applause for that. Instead of sitting on a chair and criticizing. 😊

    • @Christine-tc1vg
      @Christine-tc1vg 4 роки тому +19

      It is great to see someone work through problems...a breath of fresh air! Pay no attention to the negative comments because those people forget that they had to work through problems when they started too. Great video!!!!

    • @abbyd323
      @abbyd323 4 роки тому +6

      Christine Bentley I agree and I think the vase was really beautiful..

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 3 роки тому +3

    I love it when makers show us their whole process, mistakes and warts and all. It helps everybody learn. This turned out well in the end, like you always manage 😁

  • @elainetreadwell5576
    @elainetreadwell5576 4 роки тому +52

    I love the swirls that the shells made. The vase is the prettiest one I’ve ever seen. Great job, thank you.

  • @bonniegallimore7687
    @bonniegallimore7687 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this with us. I love the way the shells are all curly.
    Your work is amazing.

  • @marycatherinelebouef-op4hf
    @marycatherinelebouef-op4hf Рік тому +1

    This is amazingly beautiful! Who would think that the shells of pistachios, plus resin and fantastic creativity would make an awesome masterpiece like this. You are so talented! Great job! Bravo!

  • @fondaruth
    @fondaruth 4 роки тому +16

    Amazing project, Doug!! My stomach dropped when you held the broken piece the first time, and I hollered 'NOOOOO!' You are a warrior for pushing through and finishing this lovely piece - it really is stunning! And for the ones who gave the thumbs down, I say 'pfffft.' Thanks, Doug!

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Thank You Fonda, you can ignore those thumbs down I do, they don't bother us

  • @jeffkinser737
    @jeffkinser737 4 роки тому +23

    I think ur work is Amazing, & I appreciate that U dont edit out all the "oops" that lead to the final ta-dah!! Really inspiring to a novice like myself that often still has more oops than ta-dahs...gives me hope/motivation to keep going forward!

  • @gymnopodie1
    @gymnopodie1 3 роки тому +1

    Loving the Art Deco vibe this vase is giving off. Who would have thought what is essentially trash could be turned into those gorgeous swirls.

  • @KassFireborn
    @KassFireborn 4 роки тому +37

    From what I've seen, in a scenario like this, you can displace a lot of the bubbles/air pockets with vibration. It's really effective for getting the resin into all those little shell spaces. It did turn out great, for all it fought you.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +5

      Thank You

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW 2 роки тому

      I'm assuming you also titled the mold around so any bubbles from upside-down shells escaped, right?.......RIGHT???

  • @suzettehenderson9278
    @suzettehenderson9278 4 роки тому +45

    It's beautiful--the shell shapes are amazing, and the color--perfect together.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +2

      Thank You

    • @suzettehenderson9278
      @suzettehenderson9278 4 роки тому +5

      @@PohlBarnProductions Thinking about it, the way many of the shells fit together formed reminds me of rosettes.

  • @j.5327
    @j.5327 4 роки тому +80

    Dude, you are way too hard on yourself. This was wonderfully creative and awesome to watch. Have a beer! Great JOB!

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +5

      Thank You Janet

    • @jessiethoodjr439
      @jessiethoodjr439 3 роки тому +1

      I think you should enjoy what you do because you are the artist that is making what you see in the peace of art you are making so don't put yourself down when something goes wrong just pick your self up an do it again just realized that we are all man kind

  • @kenjohnson5498
    @kenjohnson5498 4 роки тому

    Another nice save, and i'm glad you put them in your videos so we can learn to fix the many mistakes we humble apprentices will run across from time to time.

  • @TheOtherGuybo
    @TheOtherGuybo 3 роки тому

    That is really phenomenal. Well done for working through the bumps along the road. Thanks for putting this all together for our edification.

  • @fredrichardson9761
    @fredrichardson9761 4 роки тому +7

    That actually came out really nice - amazing pattern with those shells! What a bear of a project though - it's clear to me a fair amount of skill is required to even know how to recover from this type of experimenting.

  • @rmsbrooks5606
    @rmsbrooks5606 4 роки тому +3

    That vase is beautiful, it being the first time it was ever done, I believe you are a talented perfectionist and too hard on yourself in learning curves. Irregular medium, excellent result

  • @wonderwend1
    @wonderwend1 3 роки тому

    I love seeing your work as its 'warts and all' . You show us your success and failure and we can learn by your mistakes and problem solving. Awesome vase; reminds me of cloissoné

  • @rickstuparyk3306
    @rickstuparyk3306 3 роки тому

    I love this guy. It’s like going back to shop class in grade 12. I learn something new every time I watch his videos. Thanks Teacher ! By the way ; shop class was back in 1976. I’m still learning.

  • @XthegreatwhyX
    @XthegreatwhyX 4 роки тому +55

    "I am going to babysit this for a while"
    Narrator: "But he wouldn't babysit that for a while..."

  • @BillyAltDel
    @BillyAltDel 4 роки тому +3

    Love how the pistachios turned out. Much more interesting than I expected!

  • @dharwood2727
    @dharwood2727 4 роки тому +1

    This episode was totally mesmerizing; I couldn't look away!🤓
    Thanks for sticking it out, Doug, the final product is absolutely gorgeous!

  • @osonomeo
    @osonomeo 2 роки тому

    Beautiful vase, and thanks for showing the 'what can go wrongs,' as well as the 'how to' processes.

  • @dickydoes
    @dickydoes 4 роки тому +6

    Thought it was a recipe- I read it as ‘pistachio shells and raisins’. And thank you for keeping the mistakes in. Really informative, and helpful. Great finished piece, too!

  • @lancejames9228
    @lancejames9228 4 роки тому +7

    a pistachio vase randomly appeared during my lockdown to entertain me. love it

  • @denisewolf4972
    @denisewolf4972 4 роки тому

    What an amazing result!!! Special thanks for showing your fails, they are so important for getting better and better.

  • @paulkaump8784
    @paulkaump8784 4 роки тому

    Here's what I like about your channel - you experiment. You try different things. You're not confined by turning a simple log with no issues. I admire this effort in particular. It could have imploded on the lathe with a million air pockets, but you hung with it. Chapeau!

  • @joecool5034
    @joecool5034 4 роки тому +6

    Those shells really look cool when turned. I'd love to see more projects with them.

  • @Daneeldrgn
    @Daneeldrgn 4 роки тому +5

    That's so cool I love all the swirls the shells make It's like watching riptides in the ocean. So cool Thankyou

  • @ellishansen8115
    @ellishansen8115 4 роки тому +1

    That vase is so pretty. You did a wonderful job creating that. I love the color and shape. I'd certainly buy that!!! Thank you.

  • @tracymack4379
    @tracymack4379 4 роки тому

    the look of the shells in the resin is awesome

  • @Mister_R.A.E.
    @Mister_R.A.E. 4 роки тому +15

    I love the effect the pistachio shells have!! Happy **St. Paddy’s** day!!

    • @aoibhe1235
      @aoibhe1235 4 роки тому +1

      Paddy's... not Patty's.. sorry couldn't help myself 😂

    • @Mister_R.A.E.
      @Mister_R.A.E. 4 роки тому

      Aoibhe O'Donnell lol my bad 😅😂🤣

    • @aoibhe1235
      @aoibhe1235 4 роки тому +1

      @@Mister_R.A.E. Thanks a mil 😂

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Thank You Rob

    • @Mister_R.A.E.
      @Mister_R.A.E. 4 роки тому

      The Pohl Barn Productions you’re very welcome Sir!

  • @coppertopjohnson9782
    @coppertopjohnson9782 4 роки тому +8

    Have you ever considered wearing a leather apron when you work to save some of your clothes/laundry? I love the idea of using pistachio shells. Who knew? And the end result...beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +3

      Thank You Thank You , I wish I has a smock to save my clothes.

  • @chriscrowley41
    @chriscrowley41 4 роки тому +1

    I think it came out great, Doug! Creation is always a process-you dragged it to the finish line and it looks like the effort was worth it!

  • @americaisfallingapart
    @americaisfallingapart 4 роки тому +1

    This kind of video is what people need to see so they don't make the same mistakes...gotta say your a problem solver...and your work turns out great :)

  • @donaldtrabeaux5235
    @donaldtrabeaux5235 4 роки тому +7

    Wow it’s a gorgeous vase love the swirl affect from the shells, absolutely beautiful, great job on it Doug. Take care my friend god bless

  • @GordonRock1
    @GordonRock1 4 роки тому +8

    OMG I forgot about pistachios. I love pistachios. They have a beautiful effect, Doug! Really look great. Thank you for the shout-out, my friend! Really appreciate it. If real life doesn’t keep getting in the way I hope to finish the project I’m working on today and get the editing done in a day or two so I can return the favour. 👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦
    Happy turning,
    .....Gord

  • @cherylcowden9676
    @cherylcowden9676 3 роки тому

    Very unique project. Love the pattern of the pistachios

  • @paulinegrabham448
    @paulinegrabham448 4 роки тому +1

    I love this, green's my favourite colour. It looks awesome with all the different shapes. It far exceeds my expectations of what it was going to look like considering all the things that went wrong. Be proud of it, it's worth it! 😊

  • @2HME
    @2HME 4 роки тому +5

    The green monster, what a labor of love, it turned out really cool glad you fought through it!!

  • @ravensmagic2684
    @ravensmagic2684 4 роки тому +4

    Oh my word!! That's just stunnin and I'm obsessed with pistachios!! Legit just bought a new bag this mornin lol! Just love your work ❤️❤️❤️

  • @BendtSten
    @BendtSten 4 роки тому

    Yes, no matter what you say; I think it looks great. A beautiful Pistachio Vase. Great piece of wood turning art. Thank you for sharing. 👍❤️🎨

  • @scottlindstrom6743
    @scottlindstrom6743 4 роки тому

    That might be the coolest looking resin project ever! Cleaning shells - put them in a pile on the table, put a seive or collander or screen over them, use the shop vac to suck out the dust.

  • @Mommamacnz
    @Mommamacnz 4 роки тому +4

    Those pistachio shells made an amazing effect in the resin. I'm sorry that it gave you so much grief, but it is beautiful.

  • @cortlandhunt4721
    @cortlandhunt4721 4 роки тому +4

    Doug when you said you were going to use vacuum, I was like OH NO! Been there done that. Finished piece looks great. Pistachio color is one of my favorite. Good job. 👍🇺🇸

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +1

      Thank You Cortland, yeah It wasn't a good feeling to find it like that.

  • @lauraofiel7005
    @lauraofiel7005 3 роки тому +1

    Love it! I like how you show us the good and the bad. It’s all a learning process. It turned out beautiful. I’d like to have something like that. You do amazing work. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @Christine-tc1vg
    @Christine-tc1vg 4 роки тому

    Thank you for showing this video!...it is great to see someone work through problems...a breath of fresh air! Pay no attention to the negative comments because those people forget that they had to work through problems when they started too. Great video!!!!

  • @MoniqueAO888
    @MoniqueAO888 4 роки тому +3

    Even if it was a kind of struggle: the vase looks sooo beautiful...the pistachio-shells make such a beautiful design !!! Greetings from Germany :-)

  • @traceyrice
    @traceyrice 4 роки тому +4

    It ended up looking really cool! I can't even imagine trying to get those to work in the resin though. Nice job! 😊

  • @mehere6865
    @mehere6865 4 роки тому

    I Don't think i could ever down thumb your creative skill Pol, That vase may have fought you to the bitter end but YOU created a real gem that any one of your subscriber would Happily display in pride of place. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍

  • @bjwillis43
    @bjwillis43 4 роки тому +26

    Could you have mixed the shells into the epoxy in a separate mixing bowl, like you would fold nuts into cake batter, then pour the combined ingredients into the mold?

    • @LifenaDay525
      @LifenaDay525 4 роки тому +1

      BJ Willis
      He took your advice. 😊

    • @LAJackson123
      @LAJackson123 4 роки тому +2

      SO, just finished watching this from my recommended - and I turned to my fiance and said the EXACT same thing. LoL
      Cooks, eh? Haha

  • @airbrushernst
    @airbrushernst 4 роки тому +3

    Wow. Lot of work. I expected to be more air pockets in there.
    Turned out beautiful.
    Great work, like always
    Gr Ernst

  • @GalloPazzesco
    @GalloPazzesco 4 роки тому

    What I really like about your videos is that you show the mess-ups. Thank you for doing that and for sharing the fixes. You do push the limits and that's awesome. Next time try drying the shells in a dehydrator or oven.

  • @chandarussell
    @chandarussell 4 роки тому

    I really like the look of it. The shells make it look like a fossil of some sort.

  • @lindaeisele3329
    @lindaeisele3329 4 роки тому +3

    I enjoy watching you. I was glad to see you use the shells . i like the color. Beautiful.

  • @valeriehenschel1590
    @valeriehenschel1590 4 роки тому +14

    Thoughts: Oven toast the shells. Mix shells into slow set liquid resin, letting air pockets be gently stirred out. Then fill the form with the mix. Turn a lid out of the foam. Or send the foam to me to play with!!! Or better yet, send it to Z. H. to turn. Still, your determination to see it through to a good final form says a lot.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you Valerie, that resin is so brittle, when I turned the resin off the waste block it came off like chucks of glass.

    • @valeriehenschel1590
      @valeriehenschel1590 4 роки тому +1

      The Pohl Barn Productions not surprised.

  • @pugsmom1
    @pugsmom1 3 роки тому

    Kudos to you for never giving up. It turned out looking awesome.

  • @sbjennings99
    @sbjennings99 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

  • @58Kym
    @58Kym 4 роки тому +7

    My thoughts: This is a lovely vase. I love the way it looks, so delicate and the shade of colour is very beautiful. I figure that those curving shells probably trap a lot of bubbles of air and that’s why it bubbled so much. I wonder if putting it under pressure to cure rather than using a vaccuum would have worked better OR vaccuum pressure first to discharge bubbles and THEN pressure to cure to make the remaining bubbles shrink to minicule size would work? I also wonder if those shells have a waxy bloom on them naturally and that’s why there was trouble with the resin not sticking very well. If you ever try again I would suggest rinsing and agitating those shells in a cleaner like naptha or acetone and letting them dry well before using them. You could also try using a vibrating table or similar when adding the resin to attempt to get rid of as many bubble as possible and using a resin that was very runny to give as much help as possible to getting the bubbles to rise out of the resin/shell mix. I love the attempt and think you did as well as you could have under the circumstances but I wish you would try again too because you would have learned a lot from this attempt. I know I did.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому

      Thank You

    • @mamasimmerplays4702
      @mamasimmerplays4702 4 роки тому +1

      The Pohl Barn Productions it would be fascinating to use different types of nut shells, too. Walnuts aren't as nice to eat as pistachios, but the shells would be great in resin - perhaps crushed to thumbnail size pieces first.
      For getting dust out of the shells, I'd start by shaking them in a sieve, preferably outdoors on a reasonably windy day, and then simply wash them.warm water with detergent would get that waxy bloom off them, and then just rinse well and leave them to dry in a sieve.

    • @frankspikes7858
      @frankspikes7858 4 роки тому

      @Smileyrie James I used to pick walnuts when I was a kid. We would clean them up, chop them up, and put them in cookies and ice cream. Great times. I also wonder what the shells would look like in a shell/resin acrylic vase.

    • @bsocmtomsdcs815
      @bsocmtomsdcs815 3 роки тому

      "I am going to babysit this for a while"
      Narrator: "But he wouldn't babysit that for a while..."

  • @MakingItOutOfTheWoods
    @MakingItOutOfTheWoods 4 роки тому +4

    That was a pain but man, it’s pretty!! Love the maker coin in the bottom - might need some foxy ones of those now I’m turning more than pens - good one Doug!! 🥰🌲🦊🌲

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому

      Thank You Claire, the coins do make a easy fix for epoxy like this.

  • @lindafox7822
    @lindafox7822 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting, fun to watch. Unique.

  • @tonyahyche794
    @tonyahyche794 4 роки тому

    This is amazing! Pistachio shells! Wow!

  • @OrudoVansan
    @OrudoVansan 4 роки тому +3

    LOL the RPMs of the mixing drill=the shutter speed on the camera... Too funny!

  • @kris_kreations
    @kris_kreations 4 роки тому +5

    I feel your pain, Doug. But the final project looks pretty good from here. Keep on keeping on.

  • @johnferguson4089
    @johnferguson4089 3 роки тому

    The pistachio shells give a great effect, almost classical in their appearance and looks as if it would be an attractive vase.

  • @soniaminter6665
    @soniaminter6665 3 роки тому

    I like the way you show what goes wrong, but the best thing is you are able to show how to fix it. Lovely job, looks good

  • @insanzeforlife5150
    @insanzeforlife5150 3 роки тому +3

    Question of the day: does he break them on purpose just to show us how good he can repair them?

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  3 роки тому +3

      I do not but that might be a good idea. lol I hate fixing my projects but like everyone else out there I am not perfect !

  • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
    @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 роки тому +11

    3:11 How Long is it going to take?
    A Shell of a long time of course...
    😁😂🤣

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому

      LOL Thank You

    • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
      @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 роки тому

      @Smileyrie James Thank You...
      I do try...(or am I Trying?, I can never remember)...
      I suppose it depends entirely on who your asking...

  • @candymatek3
    @candymatek3 10 місяців тому

    Love the look of the shells.

  • @sharona4274
    @sharona4274 4 роки тому

    Love watching you problem solve. Great video creative and tutorial

  • @NianticRiverWoodcraftingChrisN
    @NianticRiverWoodcraftingChrisN 4 роки тому +4

    Hey, you stole my idea! Looks great. My attempt failed as the resin was old and did not cure! Eating more pistachios and saving the shells!

  • @SimonStuff2000
    @SimonStuff2000 4 роки тому +9

    a smart Russian guy claims that:
    safety is number one of priority.
    😁

  • @robert488
    @robert488 4 роки тому

    That really looks great! Watching how you recover from catches and make repairs is almost as informative as watching the technique you use to turn the projects Doug! Catches are going to happen and knowing how to fix them saves a ton of projects from hitting the garbage can or the fire pit! Thank you for your craftsmanship!

  • @tandyjenkins7495
    @tandyjenkins7495 4 роки тому

    Very pretty I like all the patterns from the shells.

  • @RebelRocket
    @RebelRocket 3 роки тому

    It turned out really nice. I like how the trials and errors are left in. Not everything turns out the first time everytime and done in 5 minutes like a lot of videos make it look like.

  • @fortunazee
    @fortunazee 3 роки тому

    It's beautiful and amazing. And would go perfectly on my shelf of green and brown vases.

  • @cornwasher
    @cornwasher Рік тому

    That really turned out great. Good work sticking with it.

  • @wendynamisnik11
    @wendynamisnik11 4 роки тому

    So creative and absolutely beautiful!

  • @lornafinch8855
    @lornafinch8855 4 роки тому

    Even with all the problems that threw at you, it is an amazing piece, the shells and colour are beautiful.

  • @ms.m2054
    @ms.m2054 4 роки тому

    It's really cool! The shells give it a sweet pattern.

  • @scottwallace4864
    @scottwallace4864 4 роки тому

    Cool design. Looks like it was tough to work with. Thanks for showing and explaining the process.

  • @jmsmom67
    @jmsmom67 4 роки тому

    That came out great! Thanks for keeping it real and showing the problems!

  • @colleenwhitten9132
    @colleenwhitten9132 4 роки тому

    Pistachio vase... gorgeous! You said it gave you some trouble but from here it's truly beautiful!

  • @YooToobz
    @YooToobz 4 роки тому

    That is absolutely an amazing piece of work / art. Excellent choice of color too. Bravo my friend 👏🏼

  • @debgoldsworth9083
    @debgoldsworth9083 4 роки тому

    That was beautiful! Enjoyed watching the process.

  • @THEAPRILFOOL-1983
    @THEAPRILFOOL-1983 4 роки тому

    That is one gorgeous work of art you would not believe how many of them shells I just tossed outside into my mulch

  • @harrietcarpenter2387
    @harrietcarpenter2387 4 роки тому

    Am so enjoying this process. Can't wait to see finished product....

  • @DavidAdamsen
    @DavidAdamsen 4 роки тому

    It came out looking great, Doug! It's always refreshing watching you work. Thank you for being so honest and showing us the whole process!

  • @scottgm321
    @scottgm321 4 роки тому

    Turned out really great.

  • @ellenyager9577
    @ellenyager9577 4 роки тому

    This is super cool! Very different! I really like it! Thanks for sharing your talent with us!

  • @IFortuna2
    @IFortuna2 4 роки тому

    I.m sitting here with my bag of pistachios in my lap watching your work in wonder. I love how this vase came out, beautiful. You turned this into a real work of art. Thanks for the video!

  • @christianstart560
    @christianstart560 4 роки тому

    You are becoming an expert at salvaging a project and get a beautiful piece. Unforeseen things happen. Awesome job, Doug.

  • @TheOtteroo
    @TheOtteroo 4 роки тому

    I grew In Bridgman. Live on Alabama now. Just inherited my dads lathe, I was the only one who ever used it. No bowl chuck yet, but these videos are very inspiring. Thank you sir!

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching, only one way to learn get out there and start turning. and have fun with it.

  • @mandystich1079
    @mandystich1079 4 роки тому

    The fighting was worth it! Gorgeous!

  • @MaMaTArtlife
    @MaMaTArtlife 4 роки тому +2

    You did a great job repairing it. The pattern from the shells is amazing, I love this piece

  • @ohHeyDere
    @ohHeyDere 4 роки тому

    That's beautiful, and your struggle with the piece paid off!

  • @joallawestervelt6918
    @joallawestervelt6918 3 роки тому

    Looks really awesome. Super neat effect.

  • @dragonrage3398
    @dragonrage3398 4 роки тому

    It still looks amazing. Great job as usual.

  • @loriwimbrow2928
    @loriwimbrow2928 4 роки тому

    All I can say is- ABSOLUTELY BREATH TAKENLY STUNNING!!!!!

  • @Celtress
    @Celtress 4 роки тому

    Wow, beautiful looking final product!

  • @BlueGardenCottage
    @BlueGardenCottage 4 роки тому

    Really love the effects of the shells. Like the colours too. I love that you repaired and carried on. I hate the amount of waste some turners make and just throw away so much good materials and items that break. They still carry the work of the maker. Fantastic save on the bottom. Good looking vase by the end. Thank you for sharing it.

  • @nancyeding4924
    @nancyeding4924 4 роки тому

    Those shells really made a cool effect. Great color match, too. And I really appreciate your showing mistakes and how to fix them and how you approach a project.
    Love it, Doug.

    • @PohlBarnProductions
      @PohlBarnProductions  4 роки тому

      Thank You Nancy, lol you wouldn't like it if you had to edit all that, LOL