@@dylanjones6481but Rick genuinely wants a place to survive with the people he cares about. What negan does is beyond survival, I mean he coerces women who normally wouldn't want to sleep with him to do it
@@NoNo47668 hey they can leave whenever they want😂he Litteraly says so but once they do the luxurious life is gone obviously lmfao I mean what they expect😂and if they don’t like that they can always leave the sanctuary and see how it’s like on the road. Negan Litteraly says this or did you forget. But they don’t. And it’s because they’d rather be with him living like that then actually fight for their own lives. They’re Litteraly just mad that he doesn’t give em a luxurious life for free lmfao gtfoh lsr
Naw. Lawyers. Been destroying cash in legal fees with Frank Darabont (series creator)/Robert Kirkman/Gale Ann Hurd over royalties. Remember that Walking Dead tv died b/c they did not want 2 pay lead money 2 cast that has been there for 5+ years. (Was it ratings? Doubtful, they would not do spin-offs if ratings were weak…)
Fr you can tell negan actually felt sorry for him but it doesn’t justify everything negan did he is a tyrant power hungry dictator from season 7-8 and he got what he deserved I do however am glad they kept him alive and gave him a redemption arc I really hope we get to see Rick and negan fight along side each other against the CRM it’s like an immovable object and unstoppable force join together to beat an indestructible entity 💀
Maybe Negan was feeling bad for Rick BUT the fact is that Negan was so wrong for saying and blaming Rick in the process. Negan actually spoke and blamed based on his own ignorance lmao.
No, he wasn't. He's still playing Rick. "Just give up." That's what he really wanted. Rick's group was the most formidable force Negan encountered up to this point. Negan was scared of Rick's group.
@@leostark4534 Well ofc all don’t hate Negan .. Negan is one of the best characters in the walking dead series. Now At first we didn’t like Negan because of what he was doing . But gotta give everyone a second chance… maybe
Is it just me or I think in an alternate universe where the zombie apocalypse never happened, Carl would end up having negan as his highschool coach and him and Rick would have became friends
Really goes to show that this apocalypse brought out either the good or evil within everyone, whoever anyone was before it all happened must've had urges to do good or bad and the apocalypse gave them the go on acting on being good or evil
@@butchwallace8114nah negan is right here this isn’t like the old days It’s a new world now and you got to play by the rules Rick should know that that’s what Shane was trying to tell Rick this entire time and Morgan they knew carl was gonna die
@@thegodinme83 nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety. Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience. Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind was based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
Yeah you are right but he did test them once but they were selected by Eugene to work, it isn't out of belief to think they'd try testing them more thoroughly though lol
@@xConceptz1but he trusted Eugene and didn’t expect anything to go wrong anyone could of made that mistake he wasn’t gonna guess Eugene was playing him
@@Foxhound94f@$& that the saviors were tyranny upon the hilltop and the kingdom. Negan was a tyrant to his own people dealing out corporal punishment and psychological torment. The saviors were always going to be a problem for Alexandria and against the man power Rick even surrendered for a time till Michonne convinced him they have to fight and be free from tyranny. Rick was a great leader who won a war and imprisoned the war criminal for the remainder of Ricks days as far as Alexandria knew.
Negan was sick after he lost Lucille due to his decisions . He remember this because Carl died in same way thanks to Rick . But Negan had some kind of savior complex after Lucille died
I knew Rick had that grit in him to survive but to live on after your sons death is true survival I don’t know how rick went on I can’t imagine he still had Judith But Carl was his first flesh n blood dude truly can endure a lot but Cawrlsss death was still a mistake and tv tragedy in a negative sense
Neagan was not a good dude there for a while but at the same time Rick did also kind of start it with them when he went into one of their bases and killed everybody. Granted Hilltop and The kingdom were already being controlled with an iron fist
Carls death wasn’t Ricks fault in any way, he wanted to help people and risked his life in the process. Yes, Shane wouldn’t have wanted Carl to endanger his safety but neither did Rick at this time. This was purely Carl wanting to help someone in need, and he was also 17 at the time so it was fully his own decision
@@TheRealRickGrimesnah he went to places by himself before lol he died by 2 walkers cause the plot magically made him dumb he could of easily killed the one on top of him the kill the one next to him but they made him dumb to die
Negan’s “saving” wasn’t a way of life. The Saviors killed others if they did not provide. He was delusional but I do agree he went easy on Rick’s group even after killing a whole station of people.
nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety. Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience. Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind is based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
@@amlo_06no he was right it was his fault. Carl died because of him trying to save a random survivor and Rick shot the gun and made him run away which caused Carl to make it right so it’s Rick’s fault for him being at yeh woods and going back to save the survivor
@@The_Reaper101 It was not his fault. Actually none of that would have happened if they weren't at war. Who looked for war? Negan, because he was putting everyone under his boots and that encouraged people to rise up and fight him for their rights💀. Negan sought the consequences so basically all that shit could have been avoided if the war didn't take place and the war wouldn't have broken out if he wasn't subjugating people, hence by not being at war, sidiq or anyone else would have been accepted without problems in the communities. Besides that, you know what is the most curious thing? Is that Negan has had the balls to judge and recriminate the paternity of others when he is now basically doing the same mistake with his family in Dead City. All those things he judged other parents for and yet he ended up being the same way. Leaving his family alone when they needed him the most and all that bc he wanted revenge?. So... Where is the man who said, "you should be there for your kids/family to keep them from doing something stupid, no matter what"?. Fingers crossed that his family is not killed in his spin-off as he is not there to protect them as he should be as a father, so by his logic... he also failed as a father right ? and will continue to fail as long as he is not right there with his family to prevent them from dying.
Negan is just caricature of every dictator, tyrant or another type of sovereign leader. He got his authority by brutal force, his servants, his society got its hierarchy, and also ideology and propaganda built on his own personality.
@@Exton_Z1yeah but they also got into one of the camps and killed all of them apart from Gracie so negan just killing glen and Abraham isn’t actually as bad as what they did it’s just seen that way because people like glen and Abraham
@@Exton_Z1For the 100th time, Negan didn't know this event even happened. Those were rogue members that used his name to do bad. Negan didn't even know they existed until the Outpost.
Ive never even started TWD series but ive seen clips from YT and IG and i can understand why rick never wanted negans ideal version of peace imma have to watch all seasons here before i make my own.
Honestly id say it would be nice to see them join up instead of attacking the outpost they see what it really is and stop before they make that mistake. But while he cost maggie glenn she needed his rep to help them out later on.
Negan grew on me some in the later episodes, Jeffrey killed the role, but I don’t think negan was half the man Rick was. Rick knew every grain of said shit, negan had folks doing his work for him.
« You failed as a father » C’était quelques choses qu’on n’e devrait pas dire a un père, mais dans cette scène il a vraiment fallu qu’il le dise ca, pour lui rappeler que c’est presque 50% de sa faute si tout le monde est mort :(
Rick ambushed negans men in their sleep all because one group (who they knew for a total of 5 minutes) said they would give them food if they killed them. Rick didn’t have any intention of leaving any group alone if it meant his people were okay. Kinda like Negan.
@@mattvader916 Did you forget about the group of saviors that Daryl blow up with the rpg just before they were gonna kill Abraham & Sasha??? At that point they had already shown that they’re willing to rob you of what you’ve got and kill you afterwards too.
@@kali4568 ricks exact words for the hill top before negan is even mentioned again “we came for food we’re gonna get it” now that’s what time Rick was on even before it meant taking on negan he was ready to destroy even hill top if it meant his people first to him negan was just a compromise he thought literally nothing of their lives and felt like they were just in the way and needed to be erased. Negan was going to kill just one and let them all live.
@@JesusLopez-cg2gq That doesn’t in any way translate to him meaning he was gonna kill them for the food right off the bat! Shane might’ve done that, the guys with the Governor, & the Saviors would’ve done that but Rick, not likely. He’s gonna try & make it work for both sides.
nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety. Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience. Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind is based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
@@amlo_06All that to completely bypass the point Negan was actually making. Had Rick bided his time or played along. Carl might not have died. Negan literally brought Carl back safe and sound after Carl had went into enemy territory. He told the truth when he said his people were safe under him. It might not have been "right" but they were alive and guess who's not.
@@KillerViper8 is that so really? Then why we still continued seeing Negan's people dying even being under his "safety"?. Because that's actually what we saw during the arc and even before Rick and the group showed up. His saviors still died under his regimen. Pretty easy to say that Rick should've played along to get Carl safe when basically BECAUSE OF Negan he wasn't able to do it (They were in the middle of a war, a war that Negan himself brought upon himself because of his way of doing things. You cannot expect anything else than that from the people that you killed, forced and subjugated just to maintain yourself on the top with power. Let's remind that there's always a trigger of why things happen in the first place, besides Rick made it clear when they both had a talk when were alone in 8x12: "you can't save me or my people, or even yours, you can't save people because you don't care about anyone" and Rick was right, the only thing he really genuinely cared about it was a bat. That's why later on when the war was over and he changed for the better, we saw a different and more genuinely care for the people from Negan and a bit of his success to real caring and protecting. but again, if Negan before that had really protected his people he wouldn't have lost them nor their loyalty. It is a radical change. All this your/Negan's judgement about Rick's failure as father, it's exactly to what Negan ended up failing as well. If don't believe it? Then go and ask Negan in Dead City.. the man who once reproached a father by telling him: "you've should been there to stop your kid from doing something stupid", is the same man who ended up doing the same with his own kid in Dead City, curious isn't?.. so based in Negan's own words Negan failed as father too right? failed because he isn't/wasn't there to protect his kid or even wife from dying or isn't there to stop them from doing something stupid either. We just gotta wait and pray his family hasn't died in his ABSENCE just bc he wanted to leave to get revenge 💀 if there's anything that should be learned about this is: very easy call out and judge others, very difficult when it's time to act and be in the same position. At this point, pretty sure that Negan learned about that after being in Rick's shoes
I do t hate Megan in fact he is one of my favorite characters like I no he was evil for a long time but it’s moments like these were we can see that negan can be serious and a good person his speech goes deep
I feel like negan is doing 2 things here, teying to make rick doubt his skills as a leader and make them lose the war, and also being straight up with rick about his dumb decisisions
It's funny because in the real story rick dies at the end in the commonwealth after taking over by the previous leaders son, carl marries some girl and has kids, and negan lives close to carl but he's never home, although right before they discovered the commonwealth negan lived in a jail cell in the basement of ricks house for a few years and would ask rick to just kill him
Funny how Negan thought he was saving them all. There's a big reason why all the communities and people decided to oppose him and his empire because they all felt everything (abuse, danger, murder, enslavement, torment, etc.) instead of safety from Negan and his group.
Negan only sympathized with Rick in order to use it against Rick. He said Hes sorry and then tried to tank Rick with it. Negan is such a piece of scrap metal. Cause He plays on peoples emotions, Hes a munipulatot.
If u say to a Man U have failed as a father wen they haven’t it could kill that man’s life and u could have made him kill his self then u failed as a human u killed somebody even if he killed himself u killed him because u said he failed as a father if a man stays with that child he hasn’t failed as a father in this world ur lucky if u see ur dad
Negan was the anti-Rick! 😅. He played Rick like a song. Negan realize you can't let no one get close. Everyone is collateral damage. He made the decision that need to be made and prayed on people's strengths and weaknesses. He just got too cocky and didn't think Eugene would betray him. But, if him and Rick had teamed up. They would have been Unstoppable😅
Idk why people don’t think negan was an awful disgraceful pos. He took all he wanted from other communities by threatening innocent lives, he had a haram which he forced to do what he pleased, and all this while he thinks he’s saving people. He is an authoritarian dictator with a god complex.
@@airpodzyt1566 Little Timmy and the dick brigade weren't working under Negan's direct orders though, they were patrolling the area and were going to rob and kill everyone in the Daryl and the co. even if they had complied, which goes against what Negan believes in. It's also not entirely clear if Negan ever told them that they could play bandit and rob everyone they see and not just the bigger communities. In the case of the latter, Negan always killed just one, not everybody.
whether Negan sent them or not, it still doesn't change the fact that his group was committed to make real HIS system. Same system that was based on taking/stealing people's stuff and kill 1 or 2 or even more if 'necessary' while enslaving the rest. Same system by which almost Daryl, Abraham and Sasha got shot to death. It was whole Negan's system that started conflicts with everyone. who created that system? No one but Negan himself. All that led to Negan.
Man I love so much this scene. How Negan feels really sorry for Carl and how Rick feels so defeated and he just keeps telling that he is going to kill Negan. I am sorry to y'all but Negan was right
I have such a strong feeling that at the end of the Rick and michonne spinoff Rick will return home and see negan walking around and treated like an equal and the rage of only seeing negan as the man who should be locked in a cage for killing so many innocent people will make Rick beat negan to death
“You could’ve just let me save all of you, that’s why I killed your friends in the first place” 🤣☠️💀💀☠️
Damn😂😂😂
Actually its a very normal thought that any ruler has in his mind after a failed rebellion. There has to be an example.
Rick when he first got to Alexandria “we might have to kill a few of them for them to understand.”
@@dylanjones6481but Rick genuinely wants a place to survive with the people he cares about. What negan does is beyond survival, I mean he coerces women who normally wouldn't want to sleep with him to do it
@@NoNo47668 hey they can leave whenever they want😂he Litteraly says so but once they do the luxurious life is gone obviously lmfao I mean what they expect😂and if they don’t like that they can always leave the sanctuary and see how it’s like on the road. Negan Litteraly says this or did you forget. But they don’t. And it’s because they’d rather be with him living like that then actually fight for their own lives. They’re Litteraly just mad that he doesn’t give em a luxurious life for free lmfao gtfoh lsr
I feel like if Negan and Rick worked together they would be unstoppable.
I want them to reunite and become a duo
Imagine
Rick + Shane + Daryl + Negan
There would be no more apocalypse
You forgot Simon he was that dude as well
@@johncampbell9107Trevor was crazy tho
@@PresidentEarthdon’t forget abe
He's dead because AMC didn't wanna pay him adult wages 💀💀💀
AMC: we need to save money to buy ourselves mansions
Naw. Lawyers. Been destroying cash in legal fees with Frank Darabont (series creator)/Robert Kirkman/Gale Ann Hurd over royalties.
Remember that Walking Dead tv died b/c they did not want 2 pay lead money 2 cast that has been there for 5+ years. (Was it ratings? Doubtful, they would not do spin-offs if ratings were weak…)
I mean they literally fired the original writer on what season 2? That's why the show just kept getting worse and worse
No he quit to go to college
No he's died because the director wanted some motivation to keep negan around and he was already a adult when he died in the show lol
I feel like this was one of those rare times that negan was being somewhat serious with what he was saying to rick.
Fr you can tell negan actually felt sorry for him but it doesn’t justify everything negan did he is a tyrant power hungry dictator from season 7-8 and he got what he deserved I do however am glad they kept him alive and gave him a redemption arc I really hope we get to see Rick and negan fight along side each other against the CRM it’s like an immovable object and unstoppable force join together to beat an indestructible entity 💀
Maybe Negan was feeling bad for Rick BUT the fact is that Negan was so wrong for saying and blaming Rick in the process. Negan actually spoke and blamed based on his own ignorance lmao.
Somewhat? He’s being very serious. He’s always been honest.
No, he wasn't. He's still playing Rick. "Just give up." That's what he really wanted. Rick's group was the most formidable force Negan encountered up to this point. Negan was scared of Rick's group.
@@JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo “Negan was scared of Ricks group”… lol what? We watching the same show? It took 3 traitors to end Negan and the Saviors.
"You failed as a father" is fighting words. That's all the fuel Rick needed to continue.
“Who’s next?”
“You are” 👹🥶☠️
😂
@@Fusion-Editz01bro was so desparate saying dat and he didn’t even keep his promise 🤣☠️🤣
@@poremich Ik😆
i hope he will@@Fusion-Editz01
@@invizzyit’s too late 🤣
Bro said he failed as a father 😂💀 We all hated Negan but bro comebacks are insane
and then bro put big bro Negs in prison for a hell fkn of years 🤣☠️☠️
@@poremich niga was rotting😂
Not all of us hate negan but I see your point.
@@poremich jus wait to he finds out he is still alive if they even like do that … I can’t wait Lolol
@@leostark4534 Well ofc all don’t hate Negan .. Negan is one of the best characters in the walking dead series. Now At first we didn’t like Negan because of what he was doing . But gotta give everyone a second chance… maybe
I remember watching season 8 and i was caught so off guard when negan pulled the “ you failed as a father” 💀
Never tell a man he failed as a father
The emotions and mode I'd go into.
After their kid just died as well
Sometimes the truth hurts.
@@fredrickmiller6534 rick didn't fail as a father though, and even if he did, he did not need to hear it the day carl died
He just did though, what you gonna do about it
Is it just me or I think in an alternate universe where the zombie apocalypse never happened, Carl would end up having negan as his highschool coach and him and Rick would have became friends
That would have been awesome
A BBQ with negan shane and rick sharing beers or margaritas in an alternate world
Really goes to show that this apocalypse brought out either the good or evil within everyone, whoever anyone was before it all happened must've had urges to do good or bad and the apocalypse gave them the go on acting on being good or evil
He got that shane flashback hearing negan say “and most of all you failed as a father”
He was so real for this
No negan was wrong but he was right it wasn't Rick fault Carl died but he was right Rick won't kill him
@@butchwallace8114nah negan is right here this isn’t like the old days It’s a new world now and you got to play by the rules Rick should know that that’s what Shane was trying to tell Rick this entire time and Morgan they knew carl was gonna die
Negan actually was so wrong.
@@thegodinme83 nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety.
Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience.
Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind was based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
@@amlo_06 nah man
Negan was playing Rick's head like a fiddle 🎻
With that lil song in the back too 🎶
Believe it or not negan was right here
He wasn’t
Negan trusted Eugene and got them all killed 😂 Negan wasn’t even smart enough to grab a few random bullets to test out
Yeah you are right but he did test them once but they were selected by Eugene to work, it isn't out of belief to think they'd try testing them more thoroughly though lol
Negan did test a few bullets, shot a target with Rick spelled on it lmao
@@mgmgrey10 i said random… he only tested the few that Eugene set aside specifically for him to test. So he just trusted Eugene which wasn’t smart
@@xConceptz1but he trusted Eugene and didn’t expect anything to go wrong anyone could of made that mistake he wasn’t gonna guess Eugene was playing him
Lol he test fired a few shots at the sanctuary right before they hit the road. Eugene played him like a fiddle.
Scott Gimple made the worse decision in killing off Carl
Rick had been slipping since The Governor; Negan was the next big thing and Rick couldn't accept it.
Your retarded lol
If Negan hadn't killed so many Alexandrians Carl would have had a run buddy
Rick's ego and desire to lead got them killed. After his first mental breakdown the group should've found someone else to be their groups leader.
Does it excuse Negan being a dictator that kills one of his only two doctors because he helped his sex slave escape
@@Foxhound94f@$& that the saviors were tyranny upon the hilltop and the kingdom. Negan was a tyrant to his own people dealing out corporal punishment and psychological torment. The saviors were always going to be a problem for Alexandria and against the man power Rick even surrendered for a time till Michonne convinced him they have to fight and be free from tyranny. Rick was a great leader who won a war and imprisoned the war criminal for the remainder of Ricks days as far as Alexandria knew.
@@Foxhound94 dude what?
That is only the tip of the iceby
Negan was sick after he lost Lucille due to his decisions . He remember this because Carl died in same way thanks to Rick . But Negan had some kind of savior complex after Lucille died
Thanks to Rick? Dude Carl was 17 and he made a decision of his own coz he wanted to help. Rick didn't send him
I knew Rick had that grit in him to survive but to live on after your sons death is true survival I don’t know how rick went on I can’t imagine he still had Judith But Carl was his first flesh n blood dude truly can endure a lot but Cawrlsss death was still a mistake and tv tragedy in a negative sense
Negan projecting on Rick because he left his wife even though she didn't want him to go.
Neagan was not a good dude there for a while but at the same time Rick did also kind of start it with them when he went into one of their bases and killed everybody. Granted Hilltop and The kingdom were already being controlled with an iron fist
Thank you! This video helped me to fix my mom's laptop temperature problems
Shane knew it🥺
Carls death wasn’t Ricks fault in any way, he wanted to help people and risked his life in the process. Yes, Shane wouldn’t have wanted Carl to endanger his safety but neither did Rick at this time. This was purely Carl wanting to help someone in need, and he was also 17 at the time so it was fully his own decision
And you do realize Shane told Carl "quit trying to get yourself killed" cuz Carl kept going to places by himself which is exactly what got him killed
@@TheRealRickGrimesnah he went to places by himself before lol he died by 2 walkers cause the plot magically made him dumb he could of easily killed the one on top of him the kill the one next to him but they made him dumb to die
No actually the writers for carl killed him lol. They wouldnt pay for his college
@@DeadXogu do realize the writers are thenones who wrote him off because he couldnt come to an agreement
“You failed as a father”
Pretty bold of someone to say who never even had kids
This dude really been gaslighting Rick for 2 whole seasons leading to him getting his ass rightfully overthrown
Negan’s “saving” wasn’t a way of life. The Saviors killed others if they did not provide. He was delusional but I do agree he went easy on Rick’s group even after killing a whole station of people.
Negan is real its just no one is strong enough to accept it
nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety.
Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience.
Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind is based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
@@amlo_06no he was right it was his fault. Carl died because of him trying to save a random survivor and Rick shot the gun and made him run away which caused Carl to make it right so it’s Rick’s fault for him being at yeh woods and going back to save the survivor
@@The_Reaper101 It was not his fault. Actually none of that would have happened if they weren't at war. Who looked for war? Negan, because he was putting everyone under his boots and that encouraged people to rise up and fight him for their rights💀. Negan sought the consequences so basically all that shit could have been avoided if the war didn't take place and the war wouldn't have broken out if he wasn't subjugating people, hence by not being at war, sidiq or anyone else would have been accepted without problems in the communities.
Besides that, you know what is the most curious thing? Is that Negan has had the balls to judge and recriminate the paternity of others when he is now basically doing the same mistake with his family in Dead City. All those things he judged other parents for and yet he ended up being the same way. Leaving his family alone when they needed him the most and all that bc he wanted revenge?. So... Where is the man who said, "you should be there for your kids/family to keep them from doing something stupid, no matter what"?. Fingers crossed that his family is not killed in his spin-off as he is not there to protect them as he should be as a father, so by his logic... he also failed as a father right ? and will continue to fail as long as he is not right there with his family to prevent them from dying.
Negan is just caricature of every dictator, tyrant or another type of sovereign leader.
He got his authority by brutal force, his servants, his society got its hierarchy, and also ideology and propaganda built on his own personality.
Negan speaks the truth.
Negan actually sounds like he's trying to nice to Rick like if he was an old friend or something
Neagan killed the gang because they killed his people, he never was truly evil
I mean the Negan bikers gang almost gunned down Abraham & Sasha until Daryl RPG em
@@Exton_Z1yeah but they also got into one of the camps and killed all of them apart from Gracie so negan just killing glen and Abraham isn’t actually as bad as what they did it’s just seen that way because people like glen and Abraham
@@joshuarobinson6011 dude the Gracie outpost happen after the biker gang
@@Exton_Z1For the 100th time, Negan didn't know this event even happened. Those were rogue members that used his name to do bad. Negan didn't even know they existed until the Outpost.
@@KillerViper8 for the 100th time, the hell do you mean by that?
Ive never even started TWD series but ive seen clips from YT and IG and i can understand why rick never wanted negans ideal version of peace imma have to watch all seasons here before i make my own.
Negan and Rick have great hearts. But Simon was right
Negan was honestly right here.
He's not half wrong, but he's also not half right.
The fact that negan isn’t really the bad guy. He basically the advice giver
if negan wouldnt have charged such a high rate he would still be in charge
Would of loved to seen Shane V Negan
Negan cooked with this one ngl
You can tell negan feel that way personally because it happened to him
The trio of rick daryl and negan ufff 🔥
Honestly id say it would be nice to see them join up instead of attacking the outpost they see what it really is and stop before they make that mistake. But while he cost maggie glenn she needed his rep to help them out later on.
Negan grew on me some in the later episodes, Jeffrey killed the role, but I don’t think negan was half the man Rick was. Rick knew every grain of said shit, negan had folks doing his work for him.
« You failed as a father »
C’était quelques choses qu’on n’e devrait pas dire a un père, mais dans cette scène il a vraiment fallu qu’il le dise ca, pour lui rappeler que c’est presque 50% de sa faute si tout le monde est mort :(
I need a began Rick reunion
Rick , Shane , Daryl , Negan
This squad 😮💨🔥
Funny Negan scares the crap out of me but im truly chicken shit when Negan gets serious
Rick has a, “You leave my people alone I’ll leave your people alone,” attitude. Negan has a tyrannical attitude!!
Rick ambushed negans men in their sleep all because one group (who they knew for a total of 5 minutes) said they would give them food if they killed them. Rick didn’t have any intention of leaving any group alone if it meant his people were okay. Kinda like Negan.
@@mattvader916 Did you forget about the group of saviors that Daryl blow up with the rpg just before they were gonna kill Abraham & Sasha??? At that point they had already shown that they’re willing to rob you of what you’ve got and kill you afterwards too.
@@Sun-Warrior1911Negan defenders always forget about that 😂
@@kali4568 ricks exact words for the hill top before negan is even mentioned again “we came for food we’re gonna get it” now that’s what time Rick was on even before it meant taking on negan he was ready to destroy even hill top if it meant his people first to him negan was just a compromise he thought literally nothing of their lives and felt like they were just in the way and needed to be erased. Negan was going to kill just one and let them all live.
@@JesusLopez-cg2gq That doesn’t in any way translate to him meaning he was gonna kill them for the food right off the bat! Shane might’ve done that, the guys with the Governor, & the Saviors would’ve done that but Rick, not likely. He’s gonna try & make it work for both sides.
The fact that negan was right
nah, Negan was actually wrong for telling that to Rick. Negan actually said that based on his own ignorance. He had no idea of what Rick (as father) was capable of for his kids and it is exactly what we've seen through the whole story. about what capable of Rick was for Carl's safety.
Not to mention the fact that Carl's death was fault of Carl himself. He disobeyed his father, didn't listen the strict order of his dad and still went out and that's what resulted in him getting bit. Have you heard the said: "from disobedience come consequences".? Carl many times put himself in danger bc he was stubborn and barely could manage adult things since he was just a kid, even in season 2 Shane told Carl to not make others to kill him. Carl looked for that consequence. It is something that get out of parents' hands if children don't listen the orders and advices of their parents. Sometimes children have to learn the hard way but all that is due their own stubbornness and disobedience.
Other curious fact about this is that Negan felt "the right" to reproach Rick but still didn't notice his own faults. That's how Negan's mind worked just to maintain on 'top'. Making others feel guilty and telling them they're wrong so he wouldn't have time to reconsider his own mistakes. But I guess that is what happens when you have a giant god complex. Negan's mind is based: Other people are wrong and I'm "always" right. Other people make mistakes, but I don't.
@@amlo_06All that to completely bypass the point Negan was actually making. Had Rick bided his time or played along. Carl might not have died. Negan literally brought Carl back safe and sound after Carl had went into enemy territory. He told the truth when he said his people were safe under him. It might not have been "right" but they were alive and guess who's not.
@@KillerViper8 is that so really? Then why we still continued seeing Negan's people dying even being under his "safety"?. Because that's actually what we saw during the arc and even before Rick and the group showed up. His saviors still died under his regimen. Pretty easy to say that Rick should've played along to get Carl safe when basically BECAUSE OF Negan he wasn't able to do it (They were in the middle of a war, a war that Negan himself brought upon himself because of his way of doing things. You cannot expect anything else than that from the people that you killed, forced and subjugated just to maintain yourself on the top with power. Let's remind that there's always a trigger of why things happen in the first place, besides Rick made it clear when they both had a talk when were alone in 8x12: "you can't save me or my people, or even yours, you can't save people because you don't care about anyone" and Rick was right, the only thing he really genuinely cared about it was a bat. That's why later on when the war was over and he changed for the better, we saw a different and more genuinely care for the people from Negan and a bit of his success to real caring and protecting.
but again, if Negan before that had really protected his people he wouldn't have lost them nor their loyalty. It is a radical change. All this your/Negan's judgement about Rick's failure as father, it's exactly to what Negan ended up failing as well. If don't believe it? Then go and ask Negan in Dead City.. the man who once reproached a father by telling him: "you've should been there to stop your kid from doing something stupid", is the same man who ended up doing the same with his own kid in Dead City, curious isn't?.. so based in Negan's own words Negan failed as father too right? failed because he isn't/wasn't there to protect his kid or even wife from dying or isn't there to stop them from doing something stupid either. We just gotta wait and pray his family hasn't died in his ABSENCE just bc he wanted to leave to get revenge 💀
if there's anything that should be learned about this is: very easy call out and judge others, very difficult when it's time to act and be in the same position. At this point, pretty sure that Negan learned about that after being in Rick's shoes
Wasnt Negan gonna kill Carl before the ezekiels tiger stopped him? This scene doesnt make sense to me.
What’s sad is that he related to him bc he let his wife down.
I'm surprised jadis never turned negan over to the CRM. Seems to fit the "A" description to a tee.
I do t hate Megan in fact he is one of my favorite characters like I no he was evil for a long time but it’s moments like these were we can see that negan can be serious and a good person his speech goes deep
Negan and Rick are gods
Negan actually was a good man.If you think a bit
What if Ricks return is him killing Negan instantly thinking he got loose…
That's Rick , I don't know who that guy is in the new show.. but his lack of courage will be the reason he dies in episode 6..
I feel like negan is doing 2 things here, teying to make rick doubt his skills as a leader and make them lose the war, and also being straight up with rick about his dumb decisisions
He actually believes he’s saving them,🤣
yet plays hardball, so that they have little to nothing.
Rick didnt fail as a father
It's funny because in the real story rick dies at the end in the commonwealth after taking over by the previous leaders son, carl marries some girl and has kids, and negan lives close to carl but he's never home, although right before they discovered the commonwealth negan lived in a jail cell in the basement of ricks house for a few years and would ask rick to just kill him
Funny how Negan thought he was saving them all. There's a big reason why all the communities and people decided to oppose him and his empire because they all felt everything (abuse, danger, murder, enslavement, torment, etc.) instead of safety from Negan and his group.
I need a Rick negan reunion
Damn Negan’s actor was good
Negan is right
It hard to who’s right anymore
Negan throwing facts
Neegan ❤❤❤
Let me save you by subjugating everyone you love!
Negan was right thought
I never saw Negan as the villain the Show portrayed him as, he just had different values.
Rick fallen to kill the Gouverneur and Negan not a leader like 😂😂
Negan was right Rick didnt kill him
After all, Rick did a good job leaving Negan alive. I feel sorry for both Rick and Negan.
Okay a lot of this is honestly true
Negan was right about Rick not killing him
Negan is correct
Negan only sympathized with Rick in order to use it against Rick. He said Hes sorry and then tried to tank Rick with it. Negan is such a piece of scrap metal. Cause He plays on peoples emotions, Hes a munipulatot.
Negan❤
Is it me or was negan more evil sinister than the governor
And Shane is correct too
It’s true he slit his throat yet he survived like a champ / champion
Negan will always be my favourite character ❤
I just realaized that negan will not reunite with rick since he is in New York :(
Bro, me personally, he would've been dead if it was me, but hey, that's just me
If u say to a Man U have failed as a father wen they haven’t it could kill that man’s life and u could have made him kill his self then u failed as a human u killed somebody even if he killed himself u killed him because u said he failed as a father if a man stays with that child he hasn’t failed as a father in this world ur lucky if u see ur dad
Rick tried his best
“Be my slave” is what hes saying
I like negan, but I hated his hypocrisy
Negan's not wrong about Carl.
Shows negan good side
Negan was the anti-Rick! 😅. He played Rick like a song. Negan realize you can't let no one get close. Everyone is collateral damage. He made the decision that need to be made and prayed on people's strengths and weaknesses. He just got too cocky and didn't think Eugene would betray him. But, if him and Rick had teamed up. They would have been Unstoppable😅
The massage is good but they are stupid for killing carl
as much as i love rick, negan is right
Idk why people don’t think negan was an awful disgraceful pos. He took all he wanted from other communities by threatening innocent lives, he had a haram which he forced to do what he pleased, and all this while he thinks he’s saving people. He is an authoritarian dictator with a god complex.
I literally just watched this scene on Netflix
You arrrrree!!! ☠️
He really believed he saves people i think..
I mean Rick killed like 30+ of Negan's men, later he killed two of them and then Negan is in the wrong
@@DukkNeckNegan attacked Daryl’s group first. Then Daryl used the rpg
@@airpodzyt1566 oh yes I remember, wrong by me.
@@airpodzyt1566 Little Timmy and the dick brigade weren't working under Negan's direct orders though, they were patrolling the area and were going to rob and kill everyone in the Daryl and the co. even if they had complied, which goes against what Negan believes in. It's also not entirely clear if Negan ever told them that they could play bandit and rob everyone they see and not just the bigger communities. In the case of the latter, Negan always killed just one, not everybody.
whether Negan sent them or not, it still doesn't change the fact that his group was committed to make real HIS system. Same system that was based on taking/stealing people's stuff and kill 1 or 2 or even more if 'necessary' while enslaving the rest. Same system by which almost Daryl, Abraham and Sasha got shot to death. It was whole Negan's system that started conflicts with everyone. who created that system? No one but Negan himself. All that led to Negan.
We need to see these 2 reunite and fight side by side for Carl
I do not remember this past of the speech😂😂
Man I love so much this scene.
How Negan feels really sorry for Carl and how Rick feels so defeated and he just keeps telling that he is going to kill Negan.
I am sorry to y'all but Negan was right
He wasn't.
I have such a strong feeling that at the end of the Rick and michonne spinoff Rick will return home and see negan walking around and treated like an equal and the rage of only seeing negan as the man who should be locked in a cage for killing so many innocent people will make Rick beat negan to death