I don’t think this guy knows much about tw200’s I’m 6’2” and love how this thing can go through anything and has plenty of power to move me around. There is a cult following and these bikes are holding their value like crazy
Absolutely haha, it’s a great bike! I do know them very well, the point was simply that I don’t recommend them in my beginner videos because in my experience beginners just tend to not like them vs other bikes in the category. Thanks!
This guy doesn't know much about anything. What is he like 17 Y/O. Been riding motorcycles for 2 or 3 years so now he thinks he is an expert on all of them. Plus his voice will make your ears bleed. You are right about the TW 200 don't listen to this jerk....
The low power is managed with its perfect gearing. You didn’t mention that. Riding on the beach? Come on. I live in Colorado riding technical trails at elevation and the gearing and low seat height are there for a reason. Dabbing on an off camber hillside makes that seat height what you want. And I’m 5’11”. You have good content but I think your bias doesn’t let you see the potential.
No bias at all, I love Yamaha and I actually really like the old school stuff like this haha! I wasn't trying to say it was a bad bike at all, far from it! I was simply asked why I do not usually recommend it as a beginner dual-purpose, and that simply is just because after years of trying to put people on the TW vs most of the competition, people just generally pick a, XT250, KLX250, CRF230/250 etc. It's a great bike for the right purpose, just not so popular usually with new riders, thats all! Thanks so much for the input!
@@AlexSimmons11c I got my TW200 with 3500 miles for $2,000 plus a WIDE tire bike rack for $300 and helmet and some gear for $200. So, for $2,500 I'm ON THE TRAIL! So far, So GOOD!
Been around since 1987, with only automatic timing chain tensioner, and front disc brake being added. the4 only bike that holds it value. Sorry you are wrong on so many levels.
Never said it wasn’t top notch quality, or a great value for the money especially used. The fact is simply that when I have offered it alongside other similar size category dual purpose motorcycles, people have USUALLY preferred other bikes, that’s all. I personally like them, just stating facts as I have experienced them. Thanks for the input!
@@AlexSimmons11c not sure "people", here in South Africa, Karoo desert, Wilderness areas and forests up north, it sits alingside the DR200SE and simplicity is what makes it bulletproof. If you're saying its expensive for its price (compared to say a 250L) then yes, I can see the point. Purpose built, if you use it for the wrong thing, it will suck - but so will a slice of toast
You know, I think the main reason I have seen anyone choose the other bikes over the TW, is they are able to reach higher speeds for highway travelling. The bike gets a lot of attention wherever I go and most seem to like it because the of the styling. I admit, it doesn't have all the new fancies that the newer bikes have but I think that is what draws a lot of folks to it. Simplicity and durability. Motorcycling at it's simplest. I actually did a video between the TW and the XT250 because I found that during the pandemic, there was a waiting list on the TW and the XT250's were still sitting on the showroom floor. What made it more interesting was that the XT was only $500 more than the TW and for that amount of money, there were massive upgrades between the bikes. Here's the video if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/dKGQS9rcoBw/v-deo.html I think it's funny though, You don't recommend the TW, but I recommend it to everyone! Great video and thanks for taking the time to explain it all! Best Regards! Matt
Alex, I am sitting here, giggling at all of the wrath that has come forth from your video. Giggling in a good way, mind you but still amused. I bought a used TW this summer and have started riding it, mainly on roads at this point. The thing that truly amazes me is the following for this bike, people of all ages and level of experience. For me, it is a perfect way to get back on a motorcycle in a reasonably safe way after being away 40 years. The range of people who have these amazes me and in all cases, they staunchly defend it. As people mentioned, try to find one used or new. I'm sure that its popularity is related to its simplicity. As you stated, there are higher performance and probably prettier options out there. This one is like the "Little Engine that Could".
The TW200 is an extremely very very extremely great bike, yamaha is very cautious on changing anything about it due to the volume they move, and the loyalty of owners...there are shops all over japan that sell and service ONLY the TW...the versatility alone has kept it the same since 87 with the exception of the front disk...USA grips with the larger tank...japan, they chose a smaller tank, also...japan is pushing cleaner air, and the TW sits on a point of clean vs advancing design. Most people that are against the tw, are the cc size and haven't tried touring on one for say a month...there is a reason you dont see a lot of them for resale...
@@AlexSimmons11c not trying to high Jack your vid or comments, you raise some great considerations for tw ownership, the thing with that bike, there is no middle ground, you lust for it, or it's not for you...personally, I think..me, I'm a nobody..its versatile, but speed and at elevation is its sag in power, I went up a mountain, and had to just pull the air filter at 5000 feet so I could use above 3rd, if you change the sprocket to push over 65, your going to get low lube shut down...I have 2 bikes a tw and a beta 525, its comparing apples to bananas, but to really evaluate a tw you have to ride for a week, not 30 min. And if a dealer wont let you ride it...walk away
Dude are you trolling us? The TW200 is an off-trail bike / trail bike. The road capability gets you to the trail that gets you to the real deal (the grassy environment you mentioned is an example). Sure the other bikes are great bikes... but the TW200 does more than any other of the bikes you mentioned. Yes it's the slowest on the road and trail... but once we get off the road, and to the end of the trail, as I continue off trail you'll be watching the back of my helmet from the seat of your CRF. (Still subscribing to your channel)
Absolutely! I agree it's an amazing trail machine and I personally LOVE IT hahaha! The question I was asked was why I don't recommend it in my beginner dual purpose videos, and that's what I was answering haha. My beginner riders just tend to want one of the other bikes, that have better road manners etc and maybe less off-road biased thats all.
The 250's are faster than the TW200. Some of us don't want to go faster on a trail. I'd rather go slower on my TW200. The large tires are better at riding the side of a hill than standard size 250 tires. Fort Nine said he could go places on his TW200 that his DRZ400 wouldn't take him. That's a hell of a statement. TDubs kid says he gets 70 mpg on his TW200. Short of jumping logs and boulders on my Honda Reflex, my TW200 goes more easily wherever the Reflex can go. A 250 will tear up a trail (literally) faster and be more exciting than a TW. But for me, the TW will allow me to enjoy that trail more, and I'll be more relaxed and have more energy when I get there.
It sounds like you don’t know what that bike is. The TW is a farm implement. It’s used to get out to the fields and pastures to change irrigation lines, etc. it’s designed for sloggin through ruts and mud and lose dirt and sand to get the job done. It’s an awesome beach bike!
The TW200 is a unique bike with true dual purpose in mind. This is the bike that can and will go anywhere. The gearing, the seat height, the TIRES. This is a bike you take camping and hit the trails with, not motocross, just good old fashioned trail riding. Farm work, this would be fantastic on a farm. Forestry, I can see a ton of uses there. Hunting too, this will get you in there. The taller, faster bikes, not something I care for, I like the lower center of gravity and compactness of the TW, it is one of those machines I am glad someone still makes.
I literally can’t find em near me on eBay, there’s a reason people hold on to em… quality bikes that value simplicity and reliability over flashy newness don’t have enough good things to say
Yeah the WR tends to be more performance oriented haha, I do like the TW and for a commute that doesn't involve large highways it would be great, or for a really capable trail machine that can also get to the trails. New riders just don't seem to prefer them unfortunately :-(
I actually compared the TW against a lot of bikes, including the XT, WR, XR, KLX, and CRF lines of bikes and still chose the TW. Here's why: I use the bike as a tool, not a toy. out of all those bikes, which one would you want to use to carry 100 pounds of equipment up to a remote, sandy, rocky and very isolated place? I chose the TW for the task because the big tires will float in the sand. the low seat height keeps my feet well planted. The low gearing gives me the torque to tractor up and through obstacles without burning up the clutch. I'm not going fast and will be alone, so power isn't an issue. If you're going out specifically to ride a motorcycle, yeah there are a lot of better options. But if you're going prospecting, camping, hunting, etc. and need a motorcycle to do it, the TW is hard to beat.
Being a Harley and Victory rider for years at 75 , this bike opens up the wilderness for a grandpa plus I can be cool at the end drinking a cold beer and not hanging with the tough guy peer group👍🇺🇸
I don't think you're giving the TW a fair shake here. I live in northern Canada and we have people riding these bikes in the dead of winter, going places most other bikes could never go under such conditions. It has limitations, but it's worth the money if you want a bike that will go absolutely anywhere at any time.
I'm short. I've been riding motocross track for over 25 years. During those years, my rides we're CRF450R, CRF250R, KTM 125SX. On trails, my rides we're CRF250R, KDX220R, and KTM Freeride. That would put me in the experienced category? But I've decided to go to the TW200. I can hang with any of my friends with $10k KTMs and Husqvarna. I just don't ask the TW200 to go fast or jump. I'm such a beginner. LOL On black diamond trails, the TW200 can go anywhere. What's your qualification?
Absolutely! I agree the TW200 is an awesome and capable off-road machine and I personally love it! My point was that I don't recommend it in my videos usually because after 13 years of showing dual purpose bikes to new riders they almost never chose it over an XT250, KLX250, CRF230, etc...that's all haha!
Tw200. Perfect farm bike. Tank size keeping the weight down but still ok for 1 day on the farm. Reliability over performance. Great fun but not for anything with the word "sport" in the description.
6'2". 220lb. Colorado high altitudes/rocky single tracks. Landscape photographer. Owned ktm 500, Honda 450, husky 701... tw200 was the last one I bought (6yrs ago) but is hands down the best overall bike. Can go anywhere and it's size makes it perfect for hitch carriers and for keeping the bike up while riding as it's so short and fat. Gas tank is small but $150 will fix that, and it's definitely not very comfortable, but nothing is at 12,000 feet up on rocky trails. Hands down best trail bike I've ever owned or ridden. Maintenance is easiest and cheapest too.
Instead of making excuses why don't you just say you don't like it. Why is it Yamaha sells every tw shipped to the 🇺🇸 us every year. Why does a used tw sell in one day. If you can find one.
I actually do really like the TW hahaha, just explaining the reasons that new riders don't seem to pick them when presented with multiple options. Most TWs I think sell to experienced riders who can appreciate how much fun it is to wring a small bike for all it's worth haha. Thanks for the comment!
The TW200 is the best motorcycle ever made as far as I am concerned. I picked it over every other dual sport bike and I am glad. I consider it to be like an old reliable friend helping me get anywhere I want to go. It is much more than just another dual sport.
The tw200 is a farm bike. You can overload the fuck out of it because it doesn't have alot of suspension. If you want a bike you can throw to the ground or strap an elk to the racks and ride out of the mountains the tw200 is the way to go. You cant really compare the tw200 to other dual sports, apple's and oranges
When your tires are flat after hitting a twig, you will wish you bought a TW200. ;) And, how many people get to get ride a bike, vs sit on one for 3 minutes, and then sign the contract.
@@AlexSimmons11cwhat does a dealer usually require to test ride a bike, just a motorcycle license? A dealer near me requires motorcycle insurance, but I don't have a bike so why would I have insurance?
Absolutely, it's an amazing trail machine with the ability to legally ride TO the trail haha, it's an awesome bike, I just find most new riders don't want to give it a chance!
Those were the poorest reasons I've ever heard. If someone's a new rider, it's your job to point them to something they're going to enjoy riding, not something they THINK they're going to enjoy riding based on two minutes sitting on it. If someone asked me what their first dual purpose (plan to take it off road a fair amount) bike should be, it would be TW200 every time.
Fair comment: I think most of the reasons you mention as negatives, are the reasons I love it, and why it has a cult following. But, I am upvoting, good video, and you right to an opinion is as important as the rest of us. Biased, maybe, but to each his own. I think there are a lot better DS bikes, if you want DS. The TW200 can do DS, but it's more of a "anywhere tank", and that makes it amazing. Cheers
Thanks Marlon, I do personally like them a lot actually, as can be seen in my other videos on the subject (like my TW vs VanVan video haha). I was just asked the question so had to answer it based on trying to sell them for years to new riders. I think it has earned its following amongst experienced riders as an awesome little tank :-)
George here... you had me going there for a minute. I am 55, 250lbs and 6'0" tall. Yeah, that is a bit much for this bike, but I am NEW to motorbikes and I just want to Putt-putt around in the desert SAND and around camp. SO,I guess I did right?
This is actually an AWESOME bike for that, and is a great offroad trail type motorcycle in general. Most of my new on road riders that want dual purpose motorcycles just don't like them, which is the only reason I was trying to explain for not typically recommending it hahaha...for what you want it could be great
So they are for sort of different purposes. The TW is actually a GREAT second bike for that "other motorcycle" you are talking about, and is a super capable trail machine or around town motorcycle, very fun. The XT has taller suspension and more of the modern "dirt bike" feel, so if you plan to do more jumping or more offroad that requires the suspension travel it is better, but they are just so different. I actually think the TW is more fun, and it is built like a tank, but the XT is the more capable machine in true "dirt bike" scenarios.
Also, performance wise, I agree It was incredibly anemic and underpowered. On the handling end though, I thought it felt a lot like an underpowered speed triple - I would lean that bike so low.
You got it wrong about this bike… It is exactly what it is meant to be… Nothing more nothing less… The perfect trail bike and farm bike that you can drive on the road legally. Next thing you know you’re going to tell us how crummy a Honda mini trail 70 was. 🙄
I think I need to shoot a follow up to this, because everyone seems to have the wrong idea hahaha. I love the TW200 for what it is, a trail bike with blinkers hahaha. What I was asked was why I don't recommend it in my beginner dual purpose videos, and that's what I was explaining. Most beginner riders in my experience want the dual purpose bikes with better road manners and more mordern styling, where I find most people that love TW200s are actually more experienced riders that like it for the fun factor. Thanks for the input!
I've been riding for 27+ years, and have ridden/owned countless bikes.. The TW200 is the only bike that I've gotten multiples of, & for very good reasons. The 'newest' one: a 2013 with only 47 original miles. Unreal find for sure.. I rate em' #1 for a Coronapocalypse go-anywhere-scoot. Next to nuke-proof.. 🤣🤘 Sam -
Hahaha right you are Sam, they're a fantastic bike and almost impossible to kill...its unfortunate more of my "new" riders haven't wanted to give it a chance haha
I bought a 2021 TW200 the best decision I've made and the cult following is insane good luck trying to buy one new they rarely make the showroom floor lol
Cool i never knew about this bike. I guess bc I’m not into dual sport or dirt. Speaking of small bikes, i have a mos def interest in the honda and kawasaki 125 sporty bikes. Any reviews?
Lovin my new 2024! Building a tractor to get around the farm...6' and find the ergonomics tight, but not terrible. Customize them to fit, but TW not for everybody!
My girlfriend is short, we have a lot of sand where we ride, the TW is great for sand and has the lowest dual sport seat height. I can get a bigger desert tank for it, she’s getting a T-dub!
This bike is not a dual sport, off road, beach bike and definitely not designed as a beginner bike although partially fits in lots of scenarios for it's versatility! It's category is "Agricultural Machine" or simply a purpose build farm bike and it triumphs all the expectations of it's category at highest standard including the looks which is the signature of this breed + ultimate reliability for decades despite all kind of abuse, simplicity to be fixed by owner, get everywhere attitude all with cheapest budget. That's why they've been a world wide phenomena for ever. All the flaws are there because we're trying to frame it as sth that's not and manufacturer never claimed or intended it to be. It humbly carries the best farm bike ever made globally with pride.
Great little motorcycle! I made another video doing some comparisons and showed how much I really do like it, just wanted to explain why a lot of new riders dont seem to give it a chance.
"beginners" If we focus on that then you throw power and speed on trails out the window. So I am a little confused here? For a true beginner the Tw200 is the easiest bike to ride. Also note that I am a professional instructor. As far as value for dollar, power and speed for more experienced riders, then sure I would agree with you. The TW is slower, and it is a bit pricey. But "beginner" and "new rider" Then that is the perfect candidate for a TW200.
The TW200 is one of those bikes where the whole is greater than the sum of its spec sheet. I can think of a dozen good beginner dual purpose bikes, but I can't think of a better dual purpose bike for a beginner. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the TW200 walks away from an XT225 in the sand!
When you said a tw is good in the sand its obvious youve never ridden one theyre awful in the sand and any one who ride one knows that but it will make you such a better rider and way more fun than any of the other bikes you mentioned. I love my tw200 i guess us tw owners are like a cult in a good way lol
Other bikes that have been more successful?? Are you kidding me? The tw is extremely successful! Probably more than any other dual sport of that classification.
Hahaha good shit. The intro stuff killed me. Oh and great analysis too. All the guys that woulda bought this bike when it was new just started a ZZ Top cover band and they gonna be buying the mobility scooters soon so... yea no market.
not recommending a tw for beginners , is like Greek salad, was not mentioned , in a salad recommendation video.. BTW...the only bike that comes close ,,, to hold a light to it, is Yamaha ag200,, which coincidentally , has the same engine..
I’m sorry but you don’t know the real purpose of the TW200 motorcycle if you are comparing it with those other bikes. TW200 because of the engine and gears, suspension and frame, the oversized fat tires and they’re simplicity is built for a very specific purpose! i’ts a motorcycle for extreme terrains and extreme tasks, mostly built for farms, mining, sandy terrains, recognition and maintenance tasks on harsh conditions TW200 on a highway? come on 😂
I don’t like Cults! May as well buy a Harley! DubDat!🙄 I considered it for single track but will get the CRF300L. Yeah it’s a cult too. You need to get a tattoo of Sochiro in an indescribable location!😂
And I disagree with you on this not being a good starter bike, I think it’s a great starter bike, especially since the resale on it is awesome, you can go out via TW drive it for a year or so learn to ride figure out what you like then sell it for about what you paid for it go buy something that you know I know you want, if you buy a hard-core dirtbike with turn signals and find out you like cruising on the street more you kind of screwed, the TW is decent at cruising on the street and off-road and everything else and it’s slow and easy to learn to ride on and it’s a great starter so you can get your feet wet in everything to see what you really like and learn the basics of writing so you can make a better choice on your second bike. Personally I would probably keep the TW forever but I think it’s a great starter bike, I wish that was my starter bike instead of an XL 600, But I love the XL 600 as well so…. Lol I get what you’re saying on the price that it’s up there with others but the reason the price is so high is because of the demand and I see people buying a 2019 or 2020 and paying more for it because they can’t get a 2022 end People are still selling these things torn up beat up and trashed from the mid to late 80s because they’re tough the last forever and people just love them, so as far as the price and it being a big investment it’s not that big of a deal. You can go buy a TW 200 and turn around and sell it in a year and it’s possible you’ll lose nothing or might even make a few bucks or even if you lose some money you’re not gonna lose much. there are a small handful of other bikes that you’re gonna be able to buy and get rid of in a year without losing money, and a TW you’re probably not gonna lose money after five years or ten years either. You pretty much have to destroy it and thrash it to lose money on it. That doesn’t make it a better bike but it takes away the argument on cost because I want anything else you’re going to buy is going to be worth a whole lot less a year later. Everybody has their own choices and they’re a ton of great bikes out there But they’re a couple of bikes that keep hanging on because customers demand them and they sell well and those are simple dual sport type bikes. Look at the XR 650 L look at the KLR 650 look at the DRZ 400 come up people are mad cause you can’t get a DR 350 anymore, People are paying top dollar for 80s Honda XL bikes, the biggest problem with the motorcycle industry has always been it was driven by racing and the other 99% of the users out there don’t care about racing and they just want some thing fun simple cheap dependable reliable, look at one of the best selling bikes in history come at the Honda CT line the CT 9110 and now the 125, they’ve sold so many of them it’s disgusting and they just keep selling them yet they put 90% of their R&D into making these race bikes. That’s very cool and it’s great technology and I love it but the market loves the TW, you can find them for sale but it’s hard to find a really good deal on them and it’s hard to find new ones at a dealer they usually only get handful and they’re usually sold pretty much before they arrive, you rarely see a Yamaha dealer with a couple of TWs sitting there ready to go. So I think it’s a contender and that’s probably why people ask. I don’t know that it would be my first pic either but I think it’s incredibly valid pic and up there near the top for me personally. What I wish is that they would put out better starter bikes and simple bikes and economy bikes. Bringing back an XL 350 that was a simple cheap old dependable technology that worked great and selling those for under three grand would be awesome and they would probably sell a ton of them but unfortunately like a lot of things the motorcycle industry is driven by racing and of course magazines and advertising so buying something like that would just be ridiculous when you can go spend 15,000 on a new KTM. But that sells those kind of bikes with huge profit I guess. Maybe I’m completely wrong but I think a lot of Bikes would be doing very well right now like the DR 350 XL 350, the XR 650 L is already out there and that’s awesome, they brought the Taylor 650 back because people just love the simple decent all around Bikes. Magazines and reviewers will complain that it’s not quite as good off Rodes the latest race bike but 99% of the people don’t care they’re not racing, yes an XL is never going to win a motocross but it’ll let somebody have a good dependable cheap bike or they can go out there and ride like that and ride to the track on it. Those are the people who love the TW, it’s low to the ground it’s not intimidating it’s got very manageable power with just enough to get you up to that 65 miles an hour if you want, It’s got the six speed so you’ve got good gear selection so it works on hills and everything else, it’s a pretty good all-around bike, it’s not going to be first at anything but it’s also not gonna be last at anything and it’s not spectacular but I think that makes it nearly a perfect starter bike unless you’re very tall. I love it as a starter bike you can be a 4 foot 10 skinny girl or a 400 pound fat dude and it’s gonna be a great bike for you and it’s low enough and simple enough and easy enough for anybody to start on but it’s still capable enough to keep it fun. You can get a little XL 100 or something like that and it would be a lot of fun but you’d outgrow that thing in a couple of months and pretty much have to replace it unless tiny little powerless bikes were just your thing but getting stuck with a TW as you outgrow things it’s not that bad, it’s still a really fun bike even after you’ve been riding for 20 years. I think that definitely puts it up there in the rank of starter bikes, I would say get a better front tire and you’re good to go, $75 Shinko 241 some hand guards and maybe a beat your skid plate and you’re good to go and you got a bike that you’re still gonna have fun on in 20 years, it won’t be the best bike and you’ll grow in like other things but if you never sell it it’s probably something you still ride and still love, a lot of other starter bikes can’t really say that.
Bought my first bike a new 2020 TW200 2 weeks ago for $3999. I love it!
Awesome!!!!!
I don’t think this guy knows much about tw200’s I’m 6’2” and love how this thing can go through anything and has plenty of power to move me around. There is a cult following and these bikes are holding their value like crazy
Absolutely haha, it’s a great bike! I do know them very well, the point was simply that I don’t recommend them in my beginner videos because in my experience beginners just tend to not like them vs other bikes in the category. Thanks!
thank you
Drivers Ed in Wisconsin, uses 4tw200s, 2 XT250. Just drive one, that's what I tell them.
This guy doesn't know much about anything. What is he like 17 Y/O. Been riding motorcycles for 2 or 3 years so now he thinks he is an expert on all of them. Plus his voice will make your ears bleed. You are right about the TW 200 don't listen to this jerk....
I went with a '19 TW200 because of seat height and for low speed trail riding. No complaints.
Funny because the looks is what drew me to the bike in the first place.
The low power is managed with its perfect gearing. You didn’t mention that. Riding on the beach? Come on. I live in Colorado riding technical trails at elevation and the gearing and low seat height are there for a reason. Dabbing on an off camber hillside makes that seat height what you want. And I’m 5’11”. You have good content but I think your bias doesn’t let you see the potential.
No bias at all, I love Yamaha and I actually really like the old school stuff like this haha! I wasn't trying to say it was a bad bike at all, far from it! I was simply asked why I do not usually recommend it as a beginner dual-purpose, and that simply is just because after years of trying to put people on the TW vs most of the competition, people just generally pick a, XT250, KLX250, CRF230/250 etc.
It's a great bike for the right purpose, just not so popular usually with new riders, thats all! Thanks so much for the input!
On the beach, this thing will school you
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I got my TW200 with 3500 miles for $2,000 plus a WIDE tire bike rack for $300 and helmet and some gear for $200.
So, for $2,500 I'm ON THE TRAIL! So far, So GOOD!
Been around since 1987, with only automatic timing chain tensioner, and front disc brake being added. the4 only bike that holds it value. Sorry you are wrong on so many levels.
Never said it wasn’t top notch quality, or a great value for the money especially used. The fact is simply that when I have offered it alongside other similar size category dual purpose motorcycles, people have USUALLY preferred other bikes, that’s all. I personally like them, just stating facts as I have experienced them. Thanks for the input!
@@AlexSimmons11c not sure "people", here in South Africa, Karoo desert, Wilderness areas and forests up north, it sits alingside the DR200SE and simplicity is what makes it bulletproof. If you're saying its expensive for its price (compared to say a 250L) then yes, I can see the point. Purpose built, if you use it for the wrong thing, it will suck - but so will a slice of toast
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T Dub is the best
For an off-road machine it's amazing hahaha
You know, I think the main reason I have seen anyone choose the other bikes over the TW, is they are able to reach higher speeds for highway travelling. The bike gets a lot of attention wherever I go and most seem to like it because the of the styling. I admit, it doesn't have all the new fancies that the newer bikes have but I think that is what draws a lot of folks to it. Simplicity and durability. Motorcycling at it's simplest. I actually did a video between the TW and the XT250 because I found that during the pandemic, there was a waiting list on the TW and the XT250's were still sitting on the showroom floor. What made it more interesting was that the XT was only $500 more than the TW and for that amount of money, there were massive upgrades between the bikes. Here's the video if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/dKGQS9rcoBw/v-deo.html I think it's funny though, You don't recommend the TW, but I recommend it to everyone! Great video and thanks for taking the time to explain it all! Best Regards! Matt
Alex, I am sitting here, giggling at all of the wrath that has come forth from your video. Giggling in a good way, mind you but still amused. I bought a used TW this summer and have started riding it, mainly on roads at this point. The thing that truly amazes me is the following for this bike, people of all ages and level of experience. For me, it is a perfect way to get back on a motorcycle in a reasonably safe way after being away 40 years. The range of people who have these amazes me and in all cases, they staunchly defend it. As people mentioned, try to find one used or new. I'm sure that its popularity is related to its simplicity. As you stated, there are higher performance and probably prettier options out there. This one is like the "Little Engine that Could".
The TW200 is an extremely very very extremely great bike, yamaha is very cautious on changing anything about it due to the volume they move, and the loyalty of owners...there are shops all over japan that sell and service ONLY the TW...the versatility alone has kept it the same since 87 with the exception of the front disk...USA grips with the larger tank...japan, they chose a smaller tank, also...japan is pushing cleaner air, and the TW sits on a point of clean vs advancing design. Most people that are against the tw, are the cc size and haven't tried touring on one for say a month...there is a reason you dont see a lot of them for resale...
All valid points!
@@AlexSimmons11c not trying to high Jack your vid or comments, you raise some great considerations for tw ownership, the thing with that bike, there is no middle ground, you lust for it, or it's not for you...personally, I think..me, I'm a nobody..its versatile, but speed and at elevation is its sag in power, I went up a mountain, and had to just pull the air filter at 5000 feet so I could use above 3rd, if you change the sprocket to push over 65, your going to get low lube shut down...I have 2 bikes a tw and a beta 525, its comparing apples to bananas, but to really evaluate a tw you have to ride for a week, not 30 min. And if a dealer wont let you ride it...walk away
You forgot to mention the tw200 is categorized as "agricultural equipment"
Dude are you trolling us? The TW200 is an off-trail bike / trail bike. The road capability gets you to the trail that gets you to the real deal (the grassy environment you mentioned is an example). Sure the other bikes are great bikes... but the TW200 does more than any other of the bikes you mentioned. Yes it's the slowest on the road and trail... but once we get off the road, and to the end of the trail, as I continue off trail you'll be watching the back of my helmet from the seat of your CRF. (Still subscribing to your channel)
Absolutely! I agree it's an amazing trail machine and I personally LOVE IT hahaha! The question I was asked was why I don't recommend it in my beginner dual purpose videos, and that's what I was answering haha. My beginner riders just tend to want one of the other bikes, that have better road manners etc and maybe less off-road biased thats all.
Nicely said! Off trail ! Love it!
The 250's are faster than the TW200. Some of us don't want to go faster on a trail. I'd rather go slower on my TW200. The large tires are better at riding the side of a hill than standard size 250 tires. Fort Nine said he could go places on his TW200 that his DRZ400 wouldn't take him. That's a hell of a statement. TDubs kid says he gets 70 mpg on his TW200. Short of jumping logs and boulders on my Honda Reflex, my TW200 goes more easily wherever the Reflex can go. A 250 will tear up a trail (literally) faster and be more exciting than a TW. But for me, the TW will allow me to enjoy that trail more, and I'll be more relaxed and have more energy when I get there.
It sounds like you don’t know what that bike is. The TW is a farm implement. It’s used to get out to the fields and pastures to change irrigation lines, etc. it’s designed for sloggin through ruts and mud and lose dirt and sand to get the job done. It’s an awesome beach bike!
Yamaha can keep the tw200 as is for beginners...and should make a tw400 with a 6 speed, fuel injection for more experienced riders. I'd be all over it
Oh and a rear brake rotor
I'd be ok with the 200cc. But with a 6th gear with overdrive.
Yeeesssss, yeessssss!!!!
Interesting perspective, Dirk. I think you're on to something.
Heck yeah! Needs either a low range or overdrive too.
The TW200 is a unique bike with true dual purpose in mind. This is the bike that can and will go anywhere. The gearing, the seat height, the TIRES. This is a bike you take camping and hit the trails with, not motocross, just good old fashioned trail riding. Farm work, this would be fantastic on a farm. Forestry, I can see a ton of uses there. Hunting too, this will get you in there. The taller, faster bikes, not something I care for, I like the lower center of gravity and compactness of the TW, it is one of those machines I am glad someone still makes.
I literally can’t find em near me on eBay, there’s a reason people hold on to em… quality bikes that value simplicity and reliability over flashy newness don’t have enough good things to say
I am 5ft9in tall. Next year this will be my first bike
Your going to love it, I would recommend an oil cooler
Awesome!!! Go for it!!! I will say they are HARD to kill
@@AlexSimmons11c I agree with that dude
S. PORTER why does he need an oil cooler
@@grumpysquid it's a recommend install if you commute, cause in traffic, or will get hot, and your see leakage at the gaskets
I put 25,000 miles on a Tw... Its range was about twice what I get on my wr250r
Yeah the WR tends to be more performance oriented haha, I do like the TW and for a commute that doesn't involve large highways it would be great, or for a really capable trail machine that can also get to the trails. New riders just don't seem to prefer them unfortunately :-(
I actually compared the TW against a lot of bikes, including the XT, WR, XR, KLX, and CRF lines of bikes and still chose the TW. Here's why: I use the bike as a tool, not a toy. out of all those bikes, which one would you want to use to carry 100 pounds of equipment up to a remote, sandy, rocky and very isolated place? I chose the TW for the task because the big tires will float in the sand. the low seat height keeps my feet well planted. The low gearing gives me the torque to tractor up and through obstacles without burning up the clutch. I'm not going fast and will be alone, so power isn't an issue.
If you're going out specifically to ride a motorcycle, yeah there are a lot of better options. But if you're going prospecting, camping, hunting, etc. and need a motorcycle to do it, the TW is hard to beat.
Being a Harley and Victory rider for years at 75 , this bike opens up the wilderness for a grandpa plus I can be cool at the end drinking a cold beer and not hanging with the tough guy peer group👍🇺🇸
Hahaha awesome!
I don't think you're giving the TW a fair shake here. I live in northern Canada and we have people riding these bikes in the dead of winter, going places most other bikes could never go under such conditions. It has limitations, but it's worth the money if you want a bike that will go absolutely anywhere at any time.
I'm short. I've been riding motocross track for over 25 years. During those years, my rides we're CRF450R, CRF250R, KTM 125SX. On trails, my rides we're CRF250R, KDX220R, and KTM Freeride. That would put me in the experienced category? But I've decided to go to the TW200. I can hang with any of my friends with $10k KTMs and Husqvarna. I just don't ask the TW200 to go fast or jump. I'm such a beginner. LOL On black diamond trails, the TW200 can go anywhere. What's your qualification?
Absolutely! I agree the TW200 is an awesome and capable off-road machine and I personally love it! My point was that I don't recommend it in my videos usually because after 13 years of showing dual purpose bikes to new riders they almost never chose it over an XT250, KLX250, CRF230, etc...that's all haha!
Tw200. Perfect farm bike. Tank size keeping the weight down but still ok for 1 day on the farm. Reliability over performance. Great fun but not for anything with the word "sport" in the description.
Absolutely, great bike for certain uses!
These are awesome, and resale is like a Jeep Wrangler!! Lots of fun!
6'2". 220lb. Colorado high altitudes/rocky single tracks. Landscape photographer. Owned ktm 500, Honda 450, husky 701... tw200 was the last one I bought (6yrs ago) but is hands down the best overall bike. Can go anywhere and it's size makes it perfect for hitch carriers and for keeping the bike up while riding as it's so short and fat. Gas tank is small but $150 will fix that, and it's definitely not very comfortable, but nothing is at 12,000 feet up on rocky trails. Hands down best trail bike I've ever owned or ridden. Maintenance is easiest and cheapest too.
Instead of making excuses why don't you just say you don't like it. Why is it Yamaha sells every tw shipped to the 🇺🇸 us every year. Why does a used tw sell in one day. If you can find one.
I actually do really like the TW hahaha, just explaining the reasons that new riders don't seem to pick them when presented with multiple options. Most TWs I think sell to experienced riders who can appreciate how much fun it is to wring a small bike for all it's worth haha. Thanks for the comment!
The TW200 is the best motorcycle ever made as far as I am concerned. I picked it over every other dual sport bike and I am glad. I consider it to be like an old reliable friend helping me get anywhere I want to go. It is much more than just another dual sport.
The tw200 is a farm bike. You can overload the fuck out of it because it doesn't have alot of suspension.
If you want a bike you can throw to the ground or strap an elk to the racks and ride out of the mountains the tw200 is the way to go.
You cant really compare the tw200 to other dual sports, apple's and oranges
When your tires are flat after hitting a twig, you will wish you bought a TW200. ;)
And, how many people get to get ride a bike, vs sit on one for 3 minutes, and then sign the contract.
Hey if a dealer won’t let you ride it, don’t buy it haha. I fully believe in riding first
@@AlexSimmons11cwhat does a dealer usually require to test ride a bike, just a motorcycle license? A dealer near me requires motorcycle insurance, but I don't have a bike so why would I have insurance?
Most dealerships around here won't let you test ride anything.
Old School is BA!
Newer bikes are a dime a dozen. 👌🏽
Well it must do something right since its still around
Absolutely, it's an amazing trail machine with the ability to legally ride TO the trail haha, it's an awesome bike, I just find most new riders don't want to give it a chance!
I love the way it looks
just watched the first 30 seconds. you owe me 30 seconds now.
Those were the poorest reasons I've ever heard. If someone's a new rider, it's your job to point them to something they're going to enjoy riding, not something they THINK they're going to enjoy riding based on two minutes sitting on it. If someone asked me what their first dual purpose (plan to take it off road a fair amount) bike should be, it would be TW200 every time.
Fair comment: I think most of the reasons you mention as negatives, are the reasons I love it, and why it has a cult following. But, I am upvoting, good video, and you right to an opinion is as important as the rest of us. Biased, maybe, but to each his own. I think there are a lot better DS bikes, if you want DS. The TW200 can do DS, but it's more of a "anywhere tank", and that makes it amazing. Cheers
Thanks Marlon, I do personally like them a lot actually, as can be seen in my other videos on the subject (like my TW vs VanVan video haha). I was just asked the question so had to answer it based on trying to sell them for years to new riders. I think it has earned its following amongst experienced riders as an awesome little tank :-)
Good video. Almost all reasons made me want the tw. A personal preference.
Absolutely! To each their own, that's why I love the fact that so many different bikes exist haha
George here... you had me going there for a minute. I am 55, 250lbs and 6'0" tall. Yeah, that is a bit much for this bike,
but I am NEW to motorbikes and I just want to Putt-putt around in the desert SAND and around camp. SO,I guess I did right?
This is actually an AWESOME bike for that, and is a great offroad trail type motorcycle in general. Most of my new on road riders that want dual purpose motorcycles just don't like them, which is the only reason I was trying to explain for not typically recommending it hahaha...for what you want it could be great
Man, as you can see from the comments, I’m thinking your opinion here, might just be a bit misguided.
Thanks for giving us another perspective. Appreciate the review.
No worries! I actually LOVE the TW200, just letting everyone know why it usually doesn't make my recommended list haha
Which would be better for Las Vegas desert roads, sand and jeep trails? Klx 300 or TW 200?
Nice. I am looking for that "other" bike right now and don't see why the TW is just as expensive. Does the XT have significant upgrades in suspension?
So they are for sort of different purposes. The TW is actually a GREAT second bike for that "other motorcycle" you are talking about, and is a super capable trail machine or around town motorcycle, very fun. The XT has taller suspension and more of the modern "dirt bike" feel, so if you plan to do more jumping or more offroad that requires the suspension travel it is better, but they are just so different. I actually think the TW is more fun, and it is built like a tank, but the XT is the more capable machine in true "dirt bike" scenarios.
I wish there was a tw450 for us big guys
Also, performance wise, I agree It was incredibly anemic and underpowered. On the handling end though, I thought it felt a lot like an underpowered speed triple - I would lean that bike so low.
Absolutely, offroad they handle awesome, great trail bike
I bet the aftermarket for power and fuel delivery is robust.
I wish they would add a disc break to the rear end!
Would be nice wouldn't it!
I like the closure of the drum for the mud off road. There's a definite reason they do it up how they do
You got it wrong about this bike… It is exactly what it is meant to be… Nothing more nothing less… The perfect trail bike and farm bike that you can drive on the road legally.
Next thing you know you’re going to tell us how crummy a Honda mini trail 70 was. 🙄
I think I need to shoot a follow up to this, because everyone seems to have the wrong idea hahaha. I love the TW200 for what it is, a trail bike with blinkers hahaha. What I was asked was why I don't recommend it in my beginner dual purpose videos, and that's what I was explaining. Most beginner riders in my experience want the dual purpose bikes with better road manners and more mordern styling, where I find most people that love TW200s are actually more experienced riders that like it for the fun factor. Thanks for the input!
I've been riding for 27+ years, and have ridden/owned countless bikes..
The TW200 is the only bike that I've gotten multiples of, & for very good reasons.
The 'newest' one: a 2013 with only 47 original miles. Unreal find for sure..
I rate em' #1 for a Coronapocalypse go-anywhere-scoot. Next to nuke-proof..
🤣🤘
Sam -
Hahaha right you are Sam, they're a fantastic bike and almost impossible to kill...its unfortunate more of my "new" riders haven't wanted to give it a chance haha
Old-school bikes rocks
I bought a 2021 TW200 the best decision I've made and the cult following is insane good luck trying to buy one new they rarely make the showroom floor lol
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
I'm short and you're right about the wide seat on the TW. The XT is more comfortable.
Cool i never knew about this bike. I guess bc I’m not into dual sport or dirt. Speaking of small bikes, i have a mos def interest in the honda and kawasaki 125 sporty bikes. Any reviews?
Which Honda and Kawasaki 125s are you looking at? Like the Grom and Z125 or?
@@AlexSimmons11c yes grom and z125
Lovin my new 2024! Building a tractor to get around the farm...6' and find the ergonomics tight, but not terrible. Customize them to fit, but TW not for everybody!
TW200 is better lol
That's the beauty of so many bikes, different people prefer different stuff!
I did not buy this bike. Needed more power and a real 50/50 bike. Bought suzuki dr 650. But i really like this bike! Its kinda unique.
My girlfriend is short, we have a lot of sand where we ride, the TW is great for sand and has the lowest dual sport seat height. I can get a bigger desert tank for it, she’s getting a T-dub!
So, yeah, I ignored everything you said, because you're wrong and I picked my my TW two days ago. It's awesome!
Its not hard to put a bigger tank on a TW. Its the perfect starter bike for a girlfriend/wife, especially if they are short.
I love mine and pick it over my wr250r drz400
Awesome!!
3:48 I'm the exact opposite. I like it because it's different.
This bike is not a dual sport, off road, beach bike and definitely not designed as a beginner bike although partially fits in lots of scenarios for it's versatility! It's category is "Agricultural Machine" or simply a purpose build farm bike and it triumphs all the expectations of it's category at highest standard including the looks which is the signature of this breed + ultimate reliability for decades despite all kind of abuse, simplicity to be fixed by owner, get everywhere attitude all with cheapest budget. That's why they've been a world wide phenomena for ever. All the flaws are there because we're trying to frame it as sth that's not and manufacturer never claimed or intended it to be. It humbly carries the best farm bike ever made globally with pride.
you see how most people dont agree... I love my tdub and im 5'10" ..
Great little motorcycle! I made another video doing some comparisons and showed how much I really do like it, just wanted to explain why a lot of new riders dont seem to give it a chance.
I want one!
Good luck they are out of stock everywhere in north America 😥
Hoping you might do a review on the Yamaha R3 it’s Yamaha’s best selling motorcycle in the USA 🇺🇸
Sure thing, I’ll do it soon!
I would like to mention the resale value for tw is very good even if you buy a new one you could get most of your money back. 4k new 3.3k used
I have a friend who bought one solely because it is carbureted. He figures an EMP attack won’t kill it. I figure he has been watching too much UA-cam.
Tw200 is a great bike, but it is underpowered by today's standards. Try going on the freeway with one. 55 mph and under.
"beginners" If we focus on that then you throw power and speed on trails out the window. So I am a little confused here? For a true beginner the Tw200 is the easiest bike to ride. Also note that I am a professional instructor. As far as value for dollar, power and speed for more experienced riders, then sure I would agree with you. The TW is slower, and it is a bit pricey. But "beginner" and "new rider" Then that is the perfect candidate for a TW200.
Hummmmm......I just bought a tw 200 and might just ignore my KTM 690!😀
The TW200 is one of those bikes where the whole is greater than the sum of its spec sheet. I can think of a dozen good beginner dual purpose bikes, but I can't think of a better dual purpose bike for a beginner. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the TW200 walks away from an XT225 in the sand!
amazing video my man, thanks and keep up the good work. also, keep up the high energy f the haters.
Thanks for the support!
@@AlexSimmons11c is a Kawasaki Versys 300x a good beginners bike for off and off road?
your comparing 2 different engines and bikes. no kidding a 200 cc is more sluggish than a 250 cc that has 25 percent more power lol
Agreed completely, they are just generally compared in same category when people are shopping for bike so, hence the comparison
Alex awsome vid, and your input is very valuable
Thanks!!!!!
When you said a tw is good in the sand its obvious youve never ridden one theyre awful in the sand and any one who ride one knows that but it will make you such a better rider and way more fun than any of the other bikes you mentioned. I love my tw200 i guess us tw owners are like a cult in a good way lol
Ya and the tires are why i want it.
I agree .yahama did nothing to improve the bike. The klx 250 better buy
Most people I have showed both bikes to would agree with you!
Other bikes that have been more successful?? Are you kidding me? The tw is extremely successful! Probably more than any other dual sport of that classification.
Hahaha good shit. The intro stuff killed me. Oh and great analysis too.
All the guys that woulda bought this bike when it was new just started a ZZ Top cover band and they gonna be buying the mobility scooters soon so... yea no market.
Hahahahaha
Imagine the thoughtful comments you could make if you actually knew anything about the TW200....
Wait.... I’m Alex
That's ok, there can be more than one of us.
Missed the point I'm afraid.
Tw is awesome
It sure is! I actually like them a lot despite what everyone thinks haha
I did agree with you 100%.
not recommending a tw for beginners , is like Greek salad, was not mentioned , in a salad recommendation video..
BTW...the only bike that comes close ,,, to hold a light to it, is Yamaha ag200,, which coincidentally , has the same engine..
I’m short
Only thing the tw needs is fuel injection. Even a few small Chinese bikes are fuel injected.
I disagree on the TW200. There's a good reason why so many North American motorcycle safety courses use those bikes.
It would be cool if the upgraded it to fuel injection
The 2021 is Fuel Injected.
I’m sorry but you don’t know the real purpose of the TW200 motorcycle if you are comparing it with those other bikes.
TW200 because of the engine and gears, suspension and frame, the oversized fat tires and they’re simplicity is built for a very specific purpose!
i’ts a motorcycle for extreme terrains and extreme tasks, mostly built for farms, mining, sandy terrains, recognition and maintenance tasks on harsh conditions
TW200 on a highway? come on 😂
Need fuel injected
Fuel injection would probably go a long way with the beginners looking at it, I think Yamaha was afraid to make it any more expensive though
You should have just triggered them even more and called it a fanboy bike.
Nonsense
Haha, just answering the question. Believe it or not I have other very positive videos on the TW, because I do personally enjoy them.
I don’t like Cults! May as well buy a Harley! DubDat!🙄
I considered it for single track but will get the CRF300L. Yeah it’s a cult too. You need to get a tattoo of Sochiro in an indescribable location!😂
But people luv it 😊
F
Not sure I understand, but thanks for watching and commenting haha
That's why they have a cult following. Think about it.
I for one don’t like you being pleasant. Please start being unpleasant all the time again 😂
And I disagree with you on this not being a good starter bike, I think it’s a great starter bike, especially since the resale on it is awesome, you can go out via TW drive it for a year or so learn to ride figure out what you like then sell it for about what you paid for it go buy something that you know I know you want, if you buy a hard-core dirtbike with turn signals and find out you like cruising on the street more you kind of screwed, the TW is decent at cruising on the street and off-road and everything else and it’s slow and easy to learn to ride on and it’s a great starter so you can get your feet wet in everything to see what you really like and learn the basics of writing so you can make a better choice on your second bike. Personally I would probably keep the TW forever but I think it’s a great starter bike, I wish that was my starter bike instead of an XL 600, But I love the XL 600 as well so…. Lol
I get what you’re saying on the price that it’s up there with others but the reason the price is so high is because of the demand and I see people buying a 2019 or 2020 and paying more for it because they can’t get a 2022 end People are still selling these things torn up beat up and trashed from the mid to late 80s because they’re tough the last forever and people just love them, so as far as the price and it being a big investment it’s not that big of a deal. You can go buy a TW 200 and turn around and sell it in a year and it’s possible you’ll lose nothing or might even make a few bucks or even if you lose some money you’re not gonna lose much. there are a small handful of other bikes that you’re gonna be able to buy and get rid of in a year without losing money, and a TW you’re probably not gonna lose money after five years or ten years either. You pretty much have to destroy it and thrash it to lose money on it. That doesn’t make it a better bike but it takes away the argument on cost because I want anything else you’re going to buy is going to be worth a whole lot less a year later. Everybody has their own choices and they’re a ton of great bikes out there But they’re a couple of bikes that keep hanging on because customers demand them and they sell well and those are simple dual sport type bikes. Look at the XR 650 L look at the KLR 650 look at the DRZ 400 come up people are mad cause you can’t get a DR 350 anymore, People are paying top dollar for 80s Honda XL bikes, the biggest problem with the motorcycle industry has always been it was driven by racing and the other 99% of the users out there don’t care about racing and they just want some thing fun simple cheap dependable reliable, look at one of the best selling bikes in history come at the Honda CT line the CT 9110 and now the 125, they’ve sold so many of them it’s disgusting and they just keep selling them yet they put 90% of their R&D into making these race bikes. That’s very cool and it’s great technology and I love it but the market loves the TW, you can find them for sale but it’s hard to find a really good deal on them and it’s hard to find new ones at a dealer they usually only get handful and they’re usually sold pretty much before they arrive, you rarely see a Yamaha dealer with a couple of TWs sitting there ready to go. So I think it’s a contender and that’s probably why people ask. I don’t know that it would be my first pic either but I think it’s incredibly valid pic and up there near the top for me personally. What I wish is that they would put out better starter bikes and simple bikes and economy bikes. Bringing back an XL 350 that was a simple cheap old dependable technology that worked great and selling those for under three grand would be awesome and they would probably sell a ton of them but unfortunately like a lot of things the motorcycle industry is driven by racing and of course magazines and advertising so buying something like that would just be ridiculous when you can go spend 15,000 on a new KTM. But that sells those kind of bikes with huge profit I guess. Maybe I’m completely wrong but I think a lot of Bikes would be doing very well right now like the DR 350 XL 350, the XR 650 L is already out there and that’s awesome, they brought the Taylor 650 back because people just love the simple decent all around Bikes. Magazines and reviewers will complain that it’s not quite as good off Rodes the latest race bike but 99% of the people don’t care they’re not racing, yes an XL is never going to win a motocross but it’ll let somebody have a good dependable cheap bike or they can go out there and ride like that and ride to the track on it. Those are the people who love the TW, it’s low to the ground it’s not intimidating it’s got very manageable power with just enough to get you up to that 65 miles an hour if you want, It’s got the six speed so you’ve got good gear selection so it works on hills and everything else, it’s a pretty good all-around bike, it’s not going to be first at anything but it’s also not gonna be last at anything and it’s not spectacular but I think that makes it nearly a perfect starter bike unless you’re very tall. I love it as a starter bike you can be a 4 foot 10 skinny girl or a 400 pound fat dude and it’s gonna be a great bike for you and it’s low enough and simple enough and easy enough for anybody to start on but it’s still capable enough to keep it fun. You can get a little XL 100 or something like that and it would be a lot of fun but you’d outgrow that thing in a couple of months and pretty much have to replace it unless tiny little powerless bikes were just your thing but getting stuck with a TW as you outgrow things it’s not that bad, it’s still a really fun bike even after you’ve been riding for 20 years. I think that definitely puts it up there in the rank of starter bikes, I would say get a better front tire and you’re good to go, $75 Shinko 241 some hand guards and maybe a beat your skid plate and you’re good to go and you got a bike that you’re still gonna have fun on in 20 years, it won’t be the best bike and you’ll grow in like other things but if you never sell it it’s probably something you still ride and still love, a lot of other starter bikes can’t really say that.
Treason
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THE TW IS FOR THOSE WHO KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS