I really, really, really appreciate that Beezy, Ken, and Ralph (even though they didn't like it) listened to the album all the way through multiple times to try and understand why everyone is loving it.
+MrDeftones122755 It's just a terrible review. Their criticism is so half baked and lazily worded you can barely tell what they're trying to get across. The video goes on for 15 minutes and they still accomplished nothing.
+Jack Alma (JackHasaKeboard) I think it's a realistic take on discussing hip hop, I don't think it's a bad review cus it shows both sides not only is there a guy who loves death grips but you also get the perspective of people who aren't fan boys or even fans
MrDeftones122755 Entertaining both sides of the argument isn't the problem, the problem is their arguments being juvenile and poorly thought out. It's just 15 minutes of incohesive rambling. The closest thing to a point I could discern from that was that the album was different and that different = bad.
when i listened to it the first time: I've seen footage was the only good song Second time: wait get got is pretty awesome Third time: The Fevers pretty great as well Fourth time: can't get hustle bones out of my head Filth time: well shit now i have to listen to Ex-military again
I think this is the future of Hip Hop. Maybe not mainstream Hip Hop, but this shit has sent a shockwave that will be felt throughout the underground for ages.
8 years later and you're right. Their glitchy sound has rubbed off on a lot of underground NY rappers and some industrial hip-hop albums have even reached the mainstream. Artists like MIKE and Earl Sweatshirt have been utilizing this glitchy sound that DG have pioneered to make this hazy, psychedelic, and experimental/lofi raps.
props to this channel for getting me hip to death grips- i fuck with them now. they werent easy to listen to, but once you get through that initial awkward phase, its pretty dope
My opinion: 9/10. Incredibly catchy. Daring, loud, flawless production (shoutout to Zach Hill), and also very lyrically deep. Only gripe is they stray a bit too far from hip hop on a few places.
well, i mean, you have to accept that this music isn't really "hip hop". I agree though, easily a 9/10. I personally have trouble defining Death Grips' sound (in terms of genre).
"Once I heard I've Seen Footage, everything made sense" My god, that's exactly how I felt the first time I listened to it. Upon second listen, I liked it even more. Now, I own it on vinyl.
I Couldn't make it past the second song when I listened to this album the first time. But then I just sat down, cranked the fucking volume up, and now I own it on vinyl
cm386464 Zelooperz is also another rapper whose done it also I think it was his HELP mixtape that came out before the maco ep, Its actually really entertaining even when you get past all the intentional raps about getting head and bitches. (The production is pretty good too.)
im not a hip hop guy to be honest and i dig death grips more than any other "hip hop" act out there and im not a metal guy either......its just the whole package. the production, the elements that go into every single track. the MC yells yeah but it's only because the music needs it more than fries need ketchup. its a brilliant record
Myke C Town's got the best opinions really, I get what they're saying but I don't think they realize that Death Grips' style isn't trying to appeal to the normal aspects that hip hop is built on
My thing with Death Grips is this...I like experimental music and I do not confine myself to hip hop, rock, pop, soul or electronic, but I can't really get past MC Ride's lyrics, even if their deep, because I can't understand what he's saying unless I'm reading them on a website. Music can be loud and experimental, even in hip hop. The Bomb Squad's production was groundbreaking for hip hop but at least you had Chuck D or Ice Cube who wrote music that was just as aggressive and deep, but you could hear them clearly. It's all about the presentation with MC Ride and I just can't get into him specifically. But I actually like some of the production on Death Grips albums! It's just the lyrical presentation that bothers me. It's the same reason I can enjoy Sex Pistols but not some metal bands that yell or slur their words over an entire album. Overall, I'm glad people can enjoy this but it's just not for me. Good review!
Is it possible to like both Mobb Deep, Eric B. and Rakim, Public Enemy and Wu Tang and Death Grips or EL-P? Like can you like both traditional gangsta boom rap and experimental noisy stuff. I do. Music is best enjoyed at all forms, dudes.
1Superchops Ride really reminds me of Ghostface or GZA sometimes, just like how he tears up syllables and shit. Dunno how these dudes think is just yelling, want yelling listen to some early US hardcore punk, which DG takes alot from. I hear HR from the Bad Brains in MC Ride.
It’s totally possible, I know it certainly is for me, however I don’t think it’s necessarily bad or wrong for someone to ONLY like traditional hip-hop, or ONLY like experimental hip-hop. At the end of the day it comes down to taste, and someone like Beezy just happens to prefer traditional hip-hop over Death Grips.
If they were close minded they wouldn’t have listened to this at all they tried but believe it or not not everyone is going to like what you like stop bitching
But that is a good thing, isn't it? how else will new genres emerge and music advance further if all we do is the same old formula, I'd say fuck traditional stuff.
He means why should you HAVE to read lyrics, why should it be necessary to read when you should just be able to listen. Why not be able to just listen and interpret, it's music.
Not a ridiculous question at all. And even if it is, he genuinely asked the question with the expectation that Myke would actually have an enlightening answer for it. He respects Myke and wanted to know.
SwayJJ yeah but I sometimes read lyrics outside of listening to a song, like if I’m in a place where I can’t listen but I want to remember what a specific line was exactly... Or I reference them while I am listening to more thoroughly digest what I’m hearing despite very clearly being able to understand what’s being said. Plus, it’s a valid question since music is very specifically created to be heard, so it’s not unreasonable that someone prefer that everything to be consumed is in the music itself. It was just a question.
I don't personally love the album, but the first guys reasoning for not liking it is because he couldn't see himself "bumpin it in the whip"? Come on now. The reasoning behind them disliking it was so bad, especially for music reviewers. Even if you're a hip-hop reviewer you got to listen to other music. The only guy who sounded sensible was the guy who liked it. He backed up his opinion with facts. Also they said they didn't like it because it strayed away from hip-hop. That's just bad taste in my opinion. I guess my problem is they reviewed it as if it where a some hip-hop mixtape made for the clubs and the radio. And music reviewers should be more open minded than that.
The reason why they are a good group is because it's the perspective of multiple different music personalities. Which I love. And Feefo just loves music that can bump in his whip, what is the issue? People take in music in many different ways. I love this album and it is on my top 5 of all time (I'm young so dont start throwing classics at me) but I still love hearing opinions of people with a different perspective of music than myself. If you start to watch their vids with that in mind then you will appreciate it more.
I don't mean to come off like I'm saying your opinion is wrong, I just enjoy these guys and I just wanted to see if I could change your opinion about them. No offense intended.
Gamertag: bcuztheinternet You're right, and I understand. I'm not the kind of guy that only listens to rap for lyrical content and hate on anyone who isn't Shakespeare on the mic so I understand where he's coming from. But to me it's like listening to Watching a romantic comedy and complaining that there wasn't enough blood and gore. Nah mean? But at the same time I completely agree with you. I think some people take music to seriously and need to have more fun with it.
Carter you’re putting these guys in a box that they aren’t really in. They aren’t music reviewers in the formal sense. They’re a group of guys that love hip hop and get together to informally discuss whether they like a project or not. Feefo didn’t simply say that it doesn’t bump in the whip - there’s plenty of albums that he wouldn’t put in that category but he really liked anyway; he also stated that it was still too abrasive and noisy for his tastes. What more do you want? It’s going to be much harder for someone to articulate in detail what they don’t like about something if it’s drastically outside of their comfort zone. What’s important here is that they gave it a genuine chance and respect Myke’s opinion for loving it...even to the point of wanting to truly understand his opinion.
Death Grips releases lyrics with every release, which tells me that they want you to read into their songs alittle deeper. Which really changes the experience. Its like listening to poetry being shouted at you while you are following along. Certainly a different way of doing music, but I think it is incredible. The Brotherhood Of the Bomb is a crazy album too; maybe I could see the influence in terms of hardhitting production. All-around interesting review.
"For me, it's nothing but noise." Even though I think this album is their magnum opus, I appreciate and respect the candid and genuine responses. Death Grips' style is definitely divisive, but even those who despise the sound have valid opinions. It's interesting to hear what aspects of their style turn people off and why. 8:34 "But it's music; why should you have to go read the lyrics?" Music is used for a whole mess of purposes, from vibing in your car on a Saturday night to signifying a moment of importance in traditional ceremonies. Death Grips, imo, is not the kind of music you put on in a public place with people of diverse musical tastes. It's experimental hip-hop because it is the kind of music you're supposed to dissect, break down, and analyze from an artistic perspective. I mean, honestly, who understands what Ride is saying on a first listen? Once you take it in the context of its over-the-top, balls to the wall, aggressive style, I think this album hits the nail on the head regarding themes of violence, paranoia, and feeling overwhelmed. But I completely understand why hip hop aficionados would dislike it; I personally consider it more noise rock than hip hop.
All these guys say they had to listen to it multiple times... Anyone else like me that loved it right off the bat? I don't see what's NOT to love about this album, it's so catchy while being hard and abrasive and straight from the heart as well.
I love when Saul Williams teamed with Trent Reznor to bring an industrial feel to hip hop. I feel like Death Grips took that to a bit of an extreme for me, but it is slowly but surely growing on me. Listening to it on good headphones helps, I think. Any other recommendations?
This is one of those reviews where I just have to wonder why people hate it when their favorite critics disagree with them, I like DG but this is awesome. Always nice to hear an other perspective
Tbh its impossible to like them on first listen, I didn't like them at first. But now I love them and STRONGLY believe they are one of the greatest bands of all time 👌 🔥
I enjoy all kinds of music. Coming from a predominantly metal background really helps when listening to Death Grips, Bands like Strapping Young Lad and Napalm Death already showed me what it's like to be obliterated by sound. Eventually your ears will learn to decipher the sound, than it's amazing. That being said, Death Grips rocks my ass. I still can't hold on to some of their shit.
Every time the sound track pauses and loops again it makes I keep thinking that they edited that way to make whatever he's going to say next suspensful.
I hear ya, buddy. Personally, The Cold Vein is my all time favorite album, so I got kinda excited. I gotcha. Personally, I respect DG for what they're doing for Hip Hop, but i really just can't listen to them.
I actually enjoy the dynamic of all of them sharing their opinions since they all tend to value different things in hip hop, which gives their reviews a more complete outlook of what an album offers to any particular audience.
This is an amazing album. Its hip hop, in technique, but its also something that transcends the accepted structures and sounds of the form. Kind of a free jazz approach to hip hop. I hear influences from many sources within it, from grime to the digital hardcore of ATR and also even going way back to the early releases of hardcore acts like Black Flag ('Fuck That' especially).
I feel you but we've had a lot of requests for us to review this and we also are into stepping outside of our comfort zone by experimenting with different forms of "hip hop". Whether we get this or not, we may get something else that fits in this form of music that may be a bit more enjoyable because we're becoming accustomed to certain forms of music we're not typically listening too. I don't want us to be closed in a box.
Due to the way this show is designed as a conversation viewing, I feel like the one quiet kid in everyone's group that never says anything and maybe nods when someone looks at him once or twice.
It's interesting that I don't really think of this as a hip hop album, even though it is, but it's weird to be listening to it and just remember that it's fundamentally hip hop cause they really make their own sound and I think that's truly impressive. Strangely catchy, addictive music with tracks that really get me going. 9/10
death grips is not just the shit coming out of the speakers, death grips is about the whole concept; their deep and dark lyrics are confronting but speak truth, it's not to be tasty but rather confronting to get you out of your comfort zone,to fuck with your ego and deplete it to the point you learn/grow to expand your mind. It's not conveying something pleasurable, something 'to be vibing to', it is conveying the darkest flaws in humans, the suffering of internal struggle. and all this shit reflects with their attitude and approach with their music. (watch their interview for pitchfork) Death Grips project is a fucking creative masterpiece if you dig below the surface.
Admittedly i didn't check out Death Grips till like right after Year of the Snitch, and wonder what my view and thoughts would've been had i been along for the Ride from the beginning, but saw it as a progression. Looking at them when it was all out, it seemed like Exmilitary was, for the most part, less experimental than the monet store, and that the way they utilized sampling on Exmilitary, especially utilizing rock songs, that would've cost a lot if they had cleared them for an official release. It reminded me of rap albums, and the heavy sampling, from both popular and obscure albums, from before the lawsuits that hit Paul's Boutique and de la soul with 3 feet high, and because Exmilitary was aggressive it reminded me of NWA, because they had a lot of sampling done, and not only used james brown and pfunk but also were utilizing a lot of guitar driven rock to amp up the energy of the shots ringing outta compton's most notorious microphone abusers. Money Store seems like they had 3 albums of changes between it of experiments because it had completely gone to new territory, and dropped the guitar samples, and had figured other ways to make that feeling of heavy guitars, and also dropped the types of skit type things that were on exmilitary, or lile the intro where it had madman manson rambling madness to start things off, and it did away with having mexican girl pop in to add a different voice. I feel like they went through time from an alternate universe were Exmilitary was put out right after Straight Outta Compton, and the Money Store was put out in like the late 90s when techno started bleeding through into hip hop, like maybe after Kool Keith did Dr Octagon
It's a really polarizing record. Some myself included see it as the masterpiece it is, others see it as random noises and loathe it. It's definitely worth a listen if you haven't checked it out yet, but it always blows me away everytime.
for music reviewers you guys don't seem that open minded. you guys seem too comfy with more traditional, familiar hip hop. death grips is a breath of fresh air and have really opened up a new direction, style and sound for hip hop.
I wouldn't say they are close minded because they get it they know it's experimental but it's not just their taste simple. You don't need to be open minded to enjoy death grips.
+Jools Lee people have different tastes man and to be fair, they tried to be open minded when listening to the album and reviewing it, but at the same time there are only certain sounds a person can truly enjoy. I dont blame em, death grips is pretty hard to listen to at first. Just cuz they are music reviewers doesn't mean they should like every style/sub-genre in hip hop.
Kinda like saying metalheads and punks aren't open minded for not liking grindcore and powerviolence. I love and crave extremity like that but that's always gonna be too much for a large amount of people. I love them but Death Grips are barely even hip hop in my opinion, all the heavy industrial, experimental, and hardcore flavors make it into something that's its own thing.
So your definition of open minded is them liking it just because you do? If they weren’t open minded then they would not have given it multiple listens and be asking Myke the questions that they were asking with a genuine interest in what he had to say. Close minded would’ve been if they’d refused to even listen to it after they’d already not liked Exmilitary.
All of my friends who are really into death grips usually listen to high energy punk and death metal. It's interesting to hear what real hip-hop aficionados have to say about it. The first time I listened to each album I found it pretty jarring, but then after a while I was able to appreciate the intensity.
3:12 I dont fuck wit this at all either but I feel like Beezy really dont fuck wit anything Ive seen maybe 3 reviews total where Beezy actually liked a project lol
I can't dig their other albums as much as Exmilitary. Sure, they're great, don't get me wrong they're excellent albums, but I just love Exmilitary more.
The guy in the black shirt gets it. Part of the reason Ride's voice is incomprehensible is because it's deliberately blown out to create the sense of chaos that is going on in his mind. As a stylistic choice, it's very a propos and very creatively applied. The fact they successfully created this character over instrumentals that are catchy and poppy is exactly the brilliance of it.
fuck yeah, I was waiting for someone to mention this connection. not only Kevin's solo stuff but some of his older sideprojects with Justin Broadrick, like Ice. in fact, when I first heard Death Grips, I thought of Ice's Bad Blood album. Ice were on that style first, as far back as 1998.
Why are these hipsters so critical of them because they can't fuck with experimental music. ITS EXPERIMENTAL. Death Grips themselves would understand that this won't be appealing to everyone. I've played this to non hip hop listeners who gave it way more stick than they did.
I would say, just don't put Death Grips in the category of "Hip-Hop" just because of the risk of having fans of "real hip-hop" give you shit. I love Death Grips, but I actually hate hipsters. There is a large percentage of Death Grips fans who are just metal fans or are just chill people and are not know-it-all hipsters. Believe it or not there are more hipsters who hate Death Grips. I don't know why. I think it's just because hipsters are full of bullshit all the time.
Yep, that shit is pretty funny to me. Kinda of shows how backwards *not all* but hip-hop in definition became/becoming. Hip-hop to me was always another form of punk rock. Something meant for the people on the frontline shit. Music that's raw, out of the box with some street cred. Death Grips is all that & a lot if hip-hop heads can't even hear Ride, cause the shit took it back to those punk ethics.
This album is extremism with a message and a cause done perfect. IMO you just have to be in the proper mood to get in to this album. MC Ride's anger comes from more than just being made fun of or a hard past. It comes from the knowledge of corruption, downfall, and weakness in the system and having knowledge to exploit or add on to these things.
Joseph Fletcher Come Up and Get Me is about a man trapped in a torture chamber, I've Seen Footage (and Get Got to some extent) is about a man who has witnessed the horrors of police brutality and the like, Punk Weight is about fighting in underground clubs, Hacker is about, well, Hackers invading your information, No Love is about a man who lacks sympathy, etc. They're amazing lyrics if you can rap your head around them.
C-Town..always hits it on the head. Deathgrips is, and I hate to sound like some pedantic art connoisseur, but it's something that if you don't understand it now, you just don't get it. One of the best albums of the YEAR, literally, from every angle. Content (meaning, delivery, story, etc), production, style, ETC!
Apparently they recorded this and at the same time as Exmilitary and No Love (september release) at the same time, well before the signing to Epic. So no, they didn't tone it down and apparently No Love is going to be the aggressive of the two albums.
I've only listened to The Money Store once through so far and I prefer Exmilitary at the moment, but Myke's words at 11:42 are encouraging. Thanks, I'll keep listening!
Music is an art form. Sometimes intelligibility of vocals has to take the backseat if one is trying to express something more textural and visceral. This guy is expressing his reality as a veteran in the new millennium who has seen some crazy shit. Honestly he is dealing with it in a very healthy way, through art and musical expression, respect. This is way more genuine than the "Yeezus" egotistical B.S.
Mike is the only objective listener out of the dead end guys. The rest are going into like they are expecting hip hop, this ain't hip hop, it's fucking death grips son! It's amazing for what it is, not what someone thinks it should be. Categorization is the death of creativity. 10/10 IMO for the Money Store.
It is hip hop. It's just a kind of hip hop that isn't typical hip hop. If it wasn't, then they wouldn't review it. That's why I love Death Grips, it hasn't really been heard before
I think anthony fantano said it best when he said listening to this album the first few times was like joining a gang. You're going to get the crap kicked out of you at first, but once you listen a couple of more times and join the gang, it's all...cool. The songs in this album seem to have a lot more direction this time around. It wasn't just MC Ride yelling all over the place.You can place your finger on where the hooks this time around. I think that makes it more accessible than Exmilitary.
I don't think Myke really understood what the guy was asking at 8:02 when he was asking if you should have to read the lyrics in order to truly appreciate the music, I don't think he's talking about Death Grips specifically, I think he's just saying in music, in general, should you really have to go away and read the lyrics to a song in order to fully enjoy and understand it and I fully agree because that's something I've been wondering for a while. It's like if someone were to release a movie, but in order to really understand the movie, you had to read a whole book to put it in context beforehand - the movie should be able to stand on it's own as a standalone product to be enjoyed and understood for what it is. Similarly, the music we listen to should really be crafted in such a way that you can enjoy it served by itself. If you're having to refer to the lyrics online or on paper to fully appreciate it, I don't believe the music has really done its job well. Sorry if I offend, that's just my opinion. What do others think?
I personally prefer to research all the artists I listen to and read their lyrics. I like to have context to things. However it's not necessary for everything, some works do fine stand alone.
I don't necessarily agree, because using the context of Death Grips, there is a reason why the music sounds like that, and why MC Ride sounds like that. By reading the lyrics to the song, that can bring an entire level of understanding to the music. It provides reasoning, context, and ultimately makes you understand the endgame to music in the first place. In terms of Death Grips, the reason on why MC Ride is hard to understand is that he is telling a narrative of experiences detailing mental illness, crimes, drug/alcohol abuse, etc... It's if he wants you to be in the first person perspective of this narrative and make you understand those topics. And he chooses to deliver them with loud vocal delivery because they are challenging and horrible subjects to deal with in real life. The music behind MC Ride also support that, and also hold up on it's own. Lyrics provide context and an entire understanding of the music. Also, what about music in an entire different language? Are you saying that music that is in a different language hasn't done a good job because it is not directed specifically for you? Take for instance Sigur Ros, who in my opinion are one of the best post-rock bands. They sing in Icelandic, and for non- Icelandic speakers, they have to read the lyrics to fully understand the music. I don't see how Death Grips or any form of music where you can't understand the vocalist is different.
In my opinion it depends on what the artist is projecting you know? Some genres like ballads, house-music and glam metal the lyrics aren't there for anything else than something a person can sing along to. In hip hop however, there is still this 90's nostalgia going on that basically makes you talk about something deep and meaningful, even though it started out as party-music. I like your movie-example so let's look at Birdman, if one didn't know why they chose these specific actors and that specific drummer to compose the music for the movie, the move doesn't make sense, new genres demand more introspection in the beginning. Just as Bob Dylan was one the first singer&songwriters out there and the lyrics were really important but look at Ed Sheeran now, not that many care that A-team is about an ex that took and overdose and died, they just liked the melody and his voice or Little Things is about a fat chick he liked. The same goes for Death Grips, with their culture-jamming they also do this really deep, layered, meaningful experience and lyrics is a part of that. Just like you can't listen to a Death Grips track with a cheap headset because of all the different layers in their music as well.
Loving this album though, mad catchy. I think it is a great transition from Exmilitary and I feel that the label signing had no affect on Death Grips' original direction. Zach Hill said in an interview that their next album is supposed to be the most abrasive of the the three, so I can't wait to see Beezy review it lmao
Peter Saudino thats how i get people into them. "hey listen to this song guillotine isnt it funny and weird" before i know it theyre just as into death grips as me
@@JTNugget I keep seeing this notion that just because a comment is old that makes it any less stupid or subject to grief validation.. why? It's still just as stupid TODAY as it was 4 years ago.😐
Thanks for exposing me (and my family, and everyone else I talk to) to new music. That's what DEHH is all about. Used the excuse of my son's (14th) birthday to buy this album, and a few others. I didn't tell him anything about it, and he told me that he liked Death Grips' music. He said the music was cool, so then I showed him some videos. Good job guys!
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I really, really, really appreciate that Beezy, Ken, and Ralph (even though they didn't like it) listened to the album all the way through multiple times to try and understand why everyone is loving it.
I like death grips and I respect what they do but I don't bitch when people don't like it, it's brutal and harsh not everyone is gonna like it.
This comment.
+MrDeftones122755
It's just a terrible review. Their criticism is so half baked and lazily worded you can barely tell what they're trying to get across.
The video goes on for 15 minutes and they still accomplished nothing.
+Jack Alma (JackHasaKeboard) I think it's a realistic take on discussing hip hop, I don't think it's a bad review cus it shows both sides not only is there a guy who loves death grips but you also get the perspective of people who aren't fan boys or even fans
MrDeftones122755
Entertaining both sides of the argument isn't the problem, the problem is their arguments being juvenile and poorly thought out.
It's just 15 minutes of incohesive rambling. The closest thing to a point I could discern from that was that the album was different and that different = bad.
yeah but what pisses me off is when people don't like it because they donr understand the concepts their trying to push forward #cultureshock
when i listened to it the first time: I've seen footage was the only good song
Second time: wait get got is pretty awesome
Third time: The Fevers pretty great as well
Fourth time: can't get hustle bones out of my head
Filth time: well shit now i have to listen to Ex-military again
+Chandler Beckner
sixth time: I WANT IT I NEED IT NEED IT
+Chandler Beckner my thoughts exactly
+Chandler Beckner
you forgot
sixth time: time to change my profile pic
literally exactly the same for me
***** What do you mean?
C-Town is very good at articulating his opinions
People either hate or love death grips . Nobody ever says that they're " just ok". Obviously they are genius .
Brian T i have a friend who says he thinks it's alright
@@mattmihalko9421 i think its alright, I really like half the songs on TMS but sometimes I think they get too obnoxious with the sound imo
@@freefallingband my guy, all of them r amazing
The dude at 6:00 gets whats going on
very good review from him
myke c town > anthony fantano
ayyy lmao
+dro dro yes
"It doesn't bump in the whip." Kind of funny because I can only REALLY get into Death Grips if I play it in the car lol
Death Grips is what i bump the loudest tbh
I think this is the future of Hip Hop. Maybe not mainstream Hip Hop, but this shit has sent a shockwave that will be felt throughout the underground for ages.
8 years later and you're right. Their glitchy sound has rubbed off on a lot of underground NY rappers and some industrial hip-hop albums have even reached the mainstream. Artists like MIKE and Earl Sweatshirt have been utilizing this glitchy sound that DG have pioneered to make this hazy, psychedelic, and experimental/lofi raps.
10 years later and holy fuck you nailed it
how does it feel to be so spot on
Bro is a prophet.
+1 to Myke C-Town for making a great case. The other guys tried to pick his analysis apart and dig at him a bit but it didn't faze him. Cool guy.
What? They asked questions in an attempt to better understand the appeal. They weren’t digging at him at all.
I saw it more as just a discussion between friends.
Myke C-Town is my favorite reviewer
props to this channel for getting me hip to death grips- i fuck with them now. they werent easy to listen to, but once you get through that initial awkward phase, its pretty dope
My opinion: 9/10. Incredibly catchy. Daring, loud, flawless production (shoutout to Zach Hill), and also very lyrically deep. Only gripe is they stray a bit too far from hip hop on a few places.
well, i mean, you have to accept that this music isn't really "hip hop". I agree though, easily a 9/10. I personally have trouble defining Death Grips' sound (in terms of genre).
spendude23 I've been hearing it referred to as Grip Hop recently.
YoDawgoneeleven I'm gonna have to start using that lol
Death Grip's genre is Noided.
10/10 my guy, 10/10
"Once I heard I've Seen Footage, everything made sense"
My god, that's exactly how I felt the first time I listened to it. Upon second listen, I liked it even more. Now, I own it on vinyl.
I Couldn't make it past the second song when I listened to this album the first time. But then I just sat down, cranked the fucking volume up, and now I own it on vinyl
Death Grips is like what most rappers build their life up to be like: insane, crazy, loud, and explicit.
and im also glad that they had opposing opinions
cm386464 has thou heard the "Breath EP"
cm386464
Zelooperz is also another rapper whose done it also I think it was his HELP mixtape that came out before the maco ep, Its actually really entertaining even when you get past all the intentional raps about getting head and bitches. (The production is pretty good too.)
kentucky nightmare Dude you just blew my mind lol
Maco trash DG gods
If you can't vibe w Fever, Hustle Bones, or Bitch Please you're living life wrong. That shit is FIRE.
"Yo, if it's music, why would you go read the lyrics.. " Cos poetry isn't meant to be read, right?
febbra2 not when it's in an audio form, no.
They're not mutually exclusive.
Why not?
That’s poetry tho
@@chrisjfox8715 rap is poetry or at least thats what it was meant to be
When you liking an album comes down to the question "Is this Hip-Hop?" you should really rethink the way you listen to the album...
Death Grips pushes the envelope. In the right direction. This is the 2010's, things are evolving. Whether anyone is ready for it or not.
im not a hip hop guy to be honest and i dig death grips more than any other "hip hop" act out there and im not a metal guy either......its just the whole package. the production, the elements that go into every single track. the MC yells yeah but it's only because the music needs it more than fries need ketchup. its a brilliant record
Willa bema
Fuck off plebian
Willa bema You wanna back up that opinion, or...?
Willa bema As in: do explain why Death Grips is garbage :D I wanna hear a brother's point of view on this.
Willa bema That's adorable. And I was willing to believe you were older than 12.
Myke C Town's got the best opinions really, I get what they're saying but I don't think they realize that Death Grips' style isn't trying to appeal to the normal aspects that hip hop is built on
Because Death Grips is not hip-hop.
@@Based_Proletariat MC Ride's vocal delivery is closer to rapping than it is to singing. It is hip-hop, it's just more abstract.
Myke: and when fever hit, OOOWEEE
Beezy: what’s so good about it?!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Beezy is just hilarious.
To me Death Grips isn't even Hip Hop, its more like they have created their own sub genre because their sound is so different from anything else.
+Antonio Perez its hobo rap
Sub genre...of what genre...
Yeah, I agree, it's more like they take influence from different genres rather than pertaining to them
It's Experimental Hip Hop bozo
My thing with Death Grips is this...I like experimental music and I do not confine myself to hip hop, rock, pop, soul or electronic, but I can't really get past MC Ride's lyrics, even if their deep, because I can't understand what he's saying unless I'm reading them on a website. Music can be loud and experimental, even in hip hop. The Bomb Squad's production was groundbreaking for hip hop but at least you had Chuck D or Ice Cube who wrote music that was just as aggressive and deep, but you could hear them clearly. It's all about the presentation with MC Ride and I just can't get into him specifically. But I actually like some of the production on Death Grips albums! It's just the lyrical presentation that bothers me. It's the same reason I can enjoy Sex Pistols but not some metal bands that yell or slur their words over an entire album. Overall, I'm glad people can enjoy this but it's just not for me. Good review!
Beezy's mc ride impersonation is the greatest thing ever hahaha
Is it possible to like both Mobb Deep, Eric B. and Rakim, Public Enemy and Wu Tang and Death Grips or EL-P? Like can you like both traditional gangsta boom rap and experimental noisy stuff. I do. Music is best enjoyed at all forms, dudes.
It's totally possible. There's a shit-ton of parallels between DG and the Wu.
1Superchops Ride really reminds me of Ghostface or GZA sometimes, just like how he tears up syllables and shit. Dunno how these dudes think is just yelling, want yelling listen to some early US hardcore punk, which DG takes alot from. I hear HR from the Bad Brains in MC Ride.
@@SuperMario16bit fucking *A* m8!! 😁👍
It’s totally possible, I know it certainly is for me, however I don’t think it’s necessarily bad or wrong for someone to ONLY like traditional hip-hop, or ONLY like experimental hip-hop. At the end of the day it comes down to taste, and someone like Beezy just happens to prefer traditional hip-hop over Death Grips.
Myke is the best. He's actually open minded with stuff like this.
Andrew Cabaj what the hell does he listen to?!?
Andrew Cabaj I see... thanks!
If they were close minded they wouldn’t have listened to this at all they tried but believe it or not not everyone is going to like what you like stop bitching
Sergio Mendoza Feefo would never ever listen to Death Grips if the other guys didnt make him
I don't think Hip Hop was ever ready for Death Grips. It's too alienating for your average Hip Hop fan.
But that is a good thing, isn't it? how else will new genres emerge and music advance further if all we do is the same old formula, I'd say fuck traditional stuff.
Just noise
Gooey Ooey noise is not the same as all music. Noise has no rhythm, organisation, harmony or melody so no, not all music is noise.
@@21MWTF but Grips *does* have structure... just not the "structure" you may be used to.
@@seriousbismuth2173 fair. Come through to Rap & Hip Hop Amino. Think you will love this community of rap fans. DG is amongst the favorites
"Why should you have to go read the lyrics?"!? what a ridiculous question
He means why should you HAVE to read lyrics, why should it be necessary to read when you should just be able to listen. Why not be able to just listen and interpret, it's music.
Nearly every album comes with a lyric booklet....artists don't put that in there to wipe your ass with
Not a ridiculous question at all. And even if it is, he genuinely asked the question with the expectation that Myke would actually have an enlightening answer for it. He respects Myke and wanted to know.
SwayJJ yeah but I sometimes read lyrics outside of listening to a song, like if I’m in a place where I can’t listen but I want to remember what a specific line was exactly... Or I reference them while I am listening to more thoroughly digest what I’m hearing despite very clearly being able to understand what’s being said.
Plus, it’s a valid question since music is very specifically created to be heard, so it’s not unreasonable that someone prefer that everything to be consumed is in the music itself. It was just a question.
Exmlitary was way left. Points right. WHICH WAY IS IT?!
Tom Jones he would have slapped the cameraman if he pointed left
Metaphorical left
Completely agree with Myke. Love this album
Putting music in a box calling it black or white was music's biggest downfall.
Kinda goes with The Money Store's cover huh?
+Dusta Rhymes Amen
"Death Grips is back with their first debut album"... my head just exploded.
album aint the only format
They had released mixtapes before, not an album yet thi
@@nickspencer8366 'first debut album'
@@ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610 'first debut album'
@@nikbeats23 yea I guess, also bro, responding 8 years later, dope
Punk Weight was my absolute favourite sonically of the whole album. Anyone else feel the same? Feel like I'm alone on this one haha.
fuck no, Punk Weight slaps and it's the best music to run to
Thanks to you guys I discovered Death Grip's music and I love it. Thank you for a review. :)
I don't personally love the album, but the first guys reasoning for not liking it is because he couldn't see himself "bumpin it in the whip"? Come on now. The reasoning behind them disliking it was so bad, especially for music reviewers. Even if you're a hip-hop reviewer you got to listen to other music. The only guy who sounded sensible was the guy who liked it. He backed up his opinion with facts. Also they said they didn't like it because it strayed away from hip-hop. That's just bad taste in my opinion.
I guess my problem is they reviewed it as if it where a some hip-hop mixtape made for the clubs and the radio. And music reviewers should be more open minded than that.
The reason why they are a good group is because it's the perspective of multiple different music personalities. Which I love. And Feefo just loves music that can bump in his whip, what is the issue? People take in music in many different ways. I love this album and it is on my top 5 of all time (I'm young so dont start throwing classics at me) but I still love hearing opinions of people with a different perspective of music than myself. If you start to watch their vids with that in mind then you will appreciate it more.
I don't mean to come off like I'm saying your opinion is wrong, I just enjoy these guys and I just wanted to see if I could change your opinion about them. No offense intended.
Gamertag: bcuztheinternet You're right, and I understand. I'm not the kind of guy that only listens to rap for lyrical content and hate on anyone who isn't Shakespeare on the mic so I understand where he's coming from. But to me it's like listening to Watching a romantic comedy and complaining that there wasn't enough blood and gore. Nah mean? But at the same time I completely agree with you. I think some people take music to seriously and need to have more fun with it.
He didn't really mean that in a literal sense. He just meant he can't imagine listening to it again despite not really think DG are bad.
Carter you’re putting these guys in a box that they aren’t really in. They aren’t music reviewers in the formal sense. They’re a group of guys that love hip hop and get together to informally discuss whether they like a project or not. Feefo didn’t simply say that it doesn’t bump in the whip - there’s plenty of albums that he wouldn’t put in that category but he really liked anyway; he also stated that it was still too abrasive and noisy for his tastes. What more do you want?
It’s going to be much harder for someone to articulate in detail what they don’t like about something if it’s drastically outside of their comfort zone. What’s important here is that they gave it a genuine chance and respect Myke’s opinion for loving it...even to the point of wanting to truly understand his opinion.
Death Grips releases lyrics with every release, which tells me that they want you to read into their songs alittle deeper. Which really changes the experience. Its like listening to poetry being shouted at you while you are following along. Certainly a different way of doing music, but I think it is incredible. The Brotherhood Of the Bomb is a crazy album too; maybe I could see the influence in terms of hardhitting production. All-around interesting review.
at first i hated this album but giving it a third listen i fuck with it! definitely a Death Grips Fan Now
"For me, it's nothing but noise."
Even though I think this album is their magnum opus, I appreciate and respect the candid and genuine responses. Death Grips' style is definitely divisive, but even those who despise the sound have valid opinions. It's interesting to hear what aspects of their style turn people off and why.
8:34
"But it's music; why should you have to go read the lyrics?"
Music is used for a whole mess of purposes, from vibing in your car on a Saturday night to signifying a moment of importance in traditional ceremonies. Death Grips, imo, is not the kind of music you put on in a public place with people of diverse musical tastes. It's experimental hip-hop because it is the kind of music you're supposed to dissect, break down, and analyze from an artistic perspective. I mean, honestly, who understands what Ride is saying on a first listen? Once you take it in the context of its over-the-top, balls to the wall, aggressive style, I think this album hits the nail on the head regarding themes of violence, paranoia, and feeling overwhelmed. But I completely understand why hip hop aficionados would dislike it; I personally consider it more noise rock than hip hop.
Beezy mocking Death Grips was the funniest shit I heard in a long time. Thanks for the laugh, Beezy lol.
3:43 Beezy predicting the CJ meme
All these guys say they had to listen to it multiple times... Anyone else like me that loved it right off the bat? I don't see what's NOT to love about this album, it's so catchy while being hard and abrasive and straight from the heart as well.
I love when Saul Williams teamed with Trent Reznor to bring an industrial feel to hip hop. I feel like Death Grips took that to a bit of an extreme for me, but it is slowly but surely growing on me. Listening to it on good headphones helps, I think.
Any other recommendations?
Actually Anthony just tweeted about an hour ago about he watched this review and loved it. Lol.
man i like this format for a review this is dope
Disliking the album is totally cool, but when you just laugh and mock the vocalists style you are being ignorant.
They weren’t laughing at MC Ride. They were laughing at Beezy for being so blunt about not liking it. They articulated why they didn’t like it.
Mike C Town always has the same exact opinions as i do on pretty much every single album they review. Awesome review guys, you are spot on as always.
this album took me like 8 listens to get it, and when it clicked i loved it. Got me into much more abrasive genres of music like hardcore punk
I love the way you get looads of different opinions and that is what makes DEHH way way way up there in terms of reviewers on youtube
so far, this is album of the year until No Love releases. this is an amazing piece of music. it's quite addictive.
This is one of those reviews where I just have to wonder why people hate it when their favorite critics disagree with them, I like DG but this is awesome. Always nice to hear an other perspective
i've loved death grips since i first heard them
Took me three listens, now I love that shit
Tbh its impossible to like them on first listen, I didn't like them at first. But now I love them and STRONGLY believe they are one of the greatest bands of all time 👌 🔥
@@mrkillums8219 ... I liked it upon first listen... am I brokeded??
I enjoy all kinds of music. Coming from a predominantly metal background really helps when listening to Death Grips, Bands like Strapping Young Lad and Napalm Death already showed me what it's like to be obliterated by sound.
Eventually your ears will learn to decipher the sound, than it's amazing.
That being said, Death Grips rocks my ass. I still can't hold on to some of their shit.
Myke once again proves himself as the most forward thinking and open DEHH member.
I've never listened to a single metal album but Exmilitary's one of my favourite albums of the last few years. :0
Every time the sound track pauses and loops again it makes I keep thinking that they edited that way to make whatever he's going to say next suspensful.
You guys should review the album clppng by clipping. it's sort of in this vein but it might appeal to the traditionalists.
Justin Prather they kinda did already
"You can't put Mc. Ride over fucking Primo."
Maaaan, Mike is just too damn good for this channel
I hear ya, buddy. Personally, The Cold Vein is my all time favorite album, so I got kinda excited. I gotcha. Personally, I respect DG for what they're doing for Hip Hop, but i really just can't listen to them.
I actually enjoy the dynamic of all of them sharing their opinions since they all tend to value different things in hip hop, which gives their reviews a more complete outlook of what an album offers to any particular audience.
This is an amazing album. Its hip hop, in technique, but its also something that transcends the accepted structures and sounds of the form. Kind of a free jazz approach to hip hop. I hear influences from many sources within it, from grime to the digital hardcore of ATR and also even going way back to the early releases of hardcore acts like Black Flag ('Fuck That' especially).
I feel you but we've had a lot of requests for us to review this and we also are into stepping outside of our comfort zone by experimenting with different forms of "hip hop". Whether we get this or not, we may get something else that fits in this form of music that may be a bit more enjoyable because we're becoming accustomed to certain forms of music we're not typically listening too. I don't want us to be closed in a box.
Due to the way this show is designed as a conversation viewing, I feel like the one quiet kid in everyone's group that never says anything and maybe nods when someone looks at him once or twice.
It's interesting that I don't really think of this as a hip hop album, even though it is, but it's weird to be listening to it and just remember that it's fundamentally hip hop cause they really make their own sound and I think that's truly impressive. Strangely catchy, addictive music with tracks that really get me going. 9/10
death grips is not just the shit coming out of the speakers, death grips is about the whole concept; their deep and dark lyrics are confronting but speak truth, it's not to be tasty but rather confronting to get you out of your comfort zone,to fuck with your ego and deplete it to the point you learn/grow to expand your mind. It's not conveying something pleasurable, something 'to be vibing to', it is conveying the darkest flaws in humans, the suffering of internal struggle. and all this shit reflects with their attitude and approach with their music. (watch their interview for pitchfork) Death Grips project is a fucking creative masterpiece if you dig below the surface.
This album is so iconic even years later I still listen to this in full
"If I can't understand what he's saying I can't get into it"
Pleb
Someone’s a pleb for enjoying lyrics?
@@chrisjfox8715 ....yes.
@@chrisjfox8715 You can follow along with the lyrics online if that means so much to you
@@strangebrew1231 I was 5yrs old when I wrote that
Admittedly i didn't check out Death Grips till like right after Year of the Snitch, and wonder what my view and thoughts would've been had i been along for the Ride from the beginning, but saw it as a progression. Looking at them when it was all out, it seemed like Exmilitary was, for the most part, less experimental than the monet store, and that the way they utilized sampling on Exmilitary, especially utilizing rock songs, that would've cost a lot if they had cleared them for an official release. It reminded me of rap albums, and the heavy sampling, from both popular and obscure albums, from before the lawsuits that hit Paul's Boutique and de la soul with 3 feet high, and because Exmilitary was aggressive it reminded me of NWA, because they had a lot of sampling done, and not only used james brown and pfunk but also were utilizing a lot of guitar driven rock to amp up the energy of the shots ringing outta compton's most notorious microphone abusers. Money Store seems like they had 3 albums of changes between it of experiments because it had completely gone to new territory, and dropped the guitar samples, and had figured other ways to make that feeling of heavy guitars, and also dropped the types of skit type things that were on exmilitary, or lile the intro where it had madman manson rambling madness to start things off, and it did away with having mexican girl pop in to add a different voice. I feel like they went through time from an alternate universe were Exmilitary was put out right after Straight Outta Compton, and the Money Store was put out in like the late 90s when techno started bleeding through into hip hop, like maybe after Kool Keith did Dr Octagon
Poor Myke C trying to educate plebs smh.
It's a really polarizing record.
Some myself included see it as the masterpiece it is, others see it as random noises and loathe it.
It's definitely worth a listen if you haven't checked it out yet, but it always blows me away everytime.
for music reviewers you guys don't seem that open minded. you guys seem too comfy with more traditional, familiar hip hop. death grips is a breath of fresh air and have really opened up a new direction, style and sound for hip hop.
I wouldn't say they are close minded because they get it they know it's experimental but it's not just their taste simple. You don't need to be open minded to enjoy death grips.
+Jools Lee people have different tastes man and to be fair, they tried to be open minded when listening to the album and reviewing it, but at the same time there are only certain sounds a person can truly enjoy. I dont blame em, death grips is pretty hard to listen to at first. Just cuz they are music reviewers doesn't mean they should like every style/sub-genre in hip hop.
Harmonic Chaos .... they sound good to me lol
Kinda like saying metalheads and punks aren't open minded for not liking grindcore and powerviolence. I love and crave extremity like that but that's always gonna be too much for a large amount of people. I love them but Death Grips are barely even hip hop in my opinion, all the heavy industrial, experimental, and hardcore flavors make it into something that's its own thing.
So your definition of open minded is them liking it just because you do? If they weren’t open minded then they would not have given it multiple listens and be asking Myke the questions that they were asking with a genuine interest in what he had to say. Close minded would’ve been if they’d refused to even listen to it after they’d already not liked Exmilitary.
All of my friends who are really into death grips usually listen to high energy punk and death metal. It's interesting to hear what real hip-hop aficionados have to say about it. The first time I listened to each album I found it pretty jarring, but then after a while I was able to appreciate the intensity.
3:12 I dont fuck wit this at all either but I feel like Beezy really dont fuck wit anything Ive seen maybe 3 reviews total where Beezy actually liked a project lol
Excellent review. I also thought 'I see footage' stood out most and sounded best.
"I know the death grips fans are gonna come at me" LOL
At ~15:20, the album Myke’s talking about is called Brotherhood of the Bomb by Techno Animal and it’s pretty incredible, definitely sounds DG-esque.
I can't dig their other albums as much as Exmilitary. Sure, they're great, don't get me wrong they're excellent albums, but I just love Exmilitary more.
me too but government plates, i dig it. same with exmilitary, but the money store...not that much
The guy in the black shirt gets it. Part of the reason Ride's voice is incomprehensible is because it's deliberately blown out to create the sense of chaos that is going on in his mind. As a stylistic choice, it's very a propos and very creatively applied. The fact they successfully created this character over instrumentals that are catchy and poppy is exactly the brilliance of it.
"Call me a traditional-hiphopolist"
Haha!
fuck yeah, I was waiting for someone to mention this connection. not only Kevin's solo stuff but some of his older sideprojects with Justin Broadrick, like Ice. in fact, when I first heard Death Grips, I thought of Ice's Bad Blood album. Ice were on that style first, as far back as 1998.
Why are these hipsters so critical of them because they can't fuck with experimental music. ITS EXPERIMENTAL. Death Grips themselves would understand that this won't be appealing to everyone. I've played this to non hip hop listeners who gave it way more stick than they did.
Experimental hip hop*
I would say, just don't put Death Grips in the category of "Hip-Hop" just because of the risk of having fans of "real hip-hop" give you shit. I love Death Grips, but I actually hate hipsters. There is a large percentage of Death Grips fans who are just metal fans or are just chill people and are not know-it-all hipsters. Believe it or not there are more hipsters who hate Death Grips. I don't know why. I think it's just because hipsters are full of bullshit all the time.
Louis Nevers Although i listen to death grips i would rather fit them in the category hipster then these dudes
Yep, that shit is pretty funny to me. Kinda of shows how backwards *not all* but hip-hop in definition became/becoming. Hip-hop to me was always another form of punk rock. Something meant for the people on the frontline shit. Music that's raw, out of the box with some street cred. Death Grips is all that & a lot if hip-hop heads can't even hear Ride, cause the shit took it back to those punk ethics.
Lil Mystikal agree. They should listen to deep web cuz ride really ryhmed on that n it might resonate more as hip hop with these plebs.
This album is extremism with a message and a cause done perfect. IMO you just have to be in the proper mood to get in to this album. MC Ride's anger comes from more than just being made fun of or a hard past. It comes from the knowledge of corruption, downfall, and weakness in the system and having knowledge to exploit or add on to these things.
hip hop groups like death grips and clipping is not really for the hip hop purist out there.
Did they review No Love Deep Web yet? I bet they'll love that album especially C-Town
Sonically, I like the instrumentals. I'm ok with left field/experimental hip hop
But lyrically I just can't. I want to like Death Grips, but I can't
Their lyrics are genius if you really look into them
Im gana have to sit down and Rap Genius them
Joseph Fletcher Come Up and Get Me is about a man trapped in a torture chamber, I've Seen Footage (and Get Got to some extent) is about a man who has witnessed the horrors of police brutality and the like, Punk Weight is about fighting in underground clubs, Hacker is about, well, Hackers invading your information, No Love is about a man who lacks sympathy, etc. They're amazing lyrics if you can rap your head around them.
Pun intended?
Appreciate the info
Joseph Fletcher Where? Didn't see the pun.
C-Town..always hits it on the head. Deathgrips is, and I hate to sound like some pedantic art connoisseur, but it's something that if you don't understand it now, you just don't get it. One of the best albums of the YEAR, literally, from every angle. Content (meaning, delivery, story, etc), production, style, ETC!
My mans think its less aggressive.
Did you guys skip Punk Weight or something!?
Black Sunday or system blower
Apparently they recorded this and at the same time as Exmilitary and No Love (september release) at the same time, well before the signing to Epic. So no, they didn't tone it down and apparently No Love is going to be the aggressive of the two albums.
Anthony Fantano gon get mad.
butthony hurttano
I've only listened to The Money Store once through so far and I prefer Exmilitary at the moment, but Myke's words at 11:42 are encouraging. Thanks, I'll keep listening!
Music is an art form. Sometimes intelligibility of vocals has to take the backseat if one is trying to express something more textural and visceral. This guy is expressing his reality as a veteran in the new millennium who has seen some crazy shit. Honestly he is dealing with it in a very healthy way, through art and musical expression, respect. This is way more genuine than the "Yeezus" egotistical B.S.
Yeezus was meant to be egotistical
Gotta give props for mentioning Techno Animal and Godflesh at the end.
Mike is the only objective listener out of the dead end guys. The rest are going into like they are expecting hip hop, this ain't hip hop, it's fucking death grips son! It's amazing for what it is, not what someone thinks it should be. Categorization is the death of creativity. 10/10 IMO for the Money Store.
It is hip hop. It's just a kind of hip hop that isn't typical hip hop. If it wasn't, then they wouldn't review it. That's why I love Death Grips, it hasn't really been heard before
I think anthony fantano said it best when he said listening to this album the first few times was like joining a gang. You're going to get the crap kicked out of you at first, but once you listen a couple of more times and join the gang, it's all...cool.
The songs in this album seem to have a lot more direction this time around. It wasn't just MC Ride yelling all over the place.You can place your finger on where the hooks this time around. I think that makes it more accessible than Exmilitary.
I don't think Myke really understood what the guy was asking at 8:02 when he was asking if you should have to read the lyrics in order to truly appreciate the music, I don't think he's talking about Death Grips specifically, I think he's just saying in music, in general, should you really have to go away and read the lyrics to a song in order to fully enjoy and understand it and I fully agree because that's something I've been wondering for a while. It's like if someone were to release a movie, but in order to really understand the movie, you had to read a whole book to put it in context beforehand - the movie should be able to stand on it's own as a standalone product to be enjoyed and understood for what it is. Similarly, the music we listen to should really be crafted in such a way that you can enjoy it served by itself. If you're having to refer to the lyrics online or on paper to fully appreciate it, I don't believe the music has really done its job well. Sorry if I offend, that's just my opinion. What do others think?
I personally prefer to research all the artists I listen to and read their lyrics. I like to have context to things. However it's not necessary for everything, some works do fine stand alone.
I don't necessarily agree, because using the context of Death Grips, there is a reason why the music sounds like that, and why MC Ride sounds like that. By reading the lyrics to the song, that can bring an entire level of understanding to the music. It provides reasoning, context, and ultimately makes you understand the endgame to music in the first place. In terms of Death Grips, the reason on why MC Ride is hard to understand is that he is telling a narrative of experiences detailing mental illness, crimes, drug/alcohol abuse, etc... It's if he wants you to be in the first person perspective of this narrative and make you understand those topics. And he chooses to deliver them with loud vocal delivery because they are challenging and horrible subjects to deal with in real life. The music behind MC Ride also support that, and also hold up on it's own. Lyrics provide context and an entire understanding of the music.
Also, what about music in an entire different language? Are you saying that music that is in a different language hasn't done a good job because it is not directed specifically for you? Take for instance Sigur Ros, who in my opinion are one of the best post-rock bands. They sing in Icelandic, and for non- Icelandic speakers, they have to read the lyrics to fully understand the music. I don't see how Death Grips or any form of music where you can't understand the vocalist is different.
In my opinion it depends on what the artist is projecting you know? Some genres like ballads, house-music and glam metal the lyrics aren't there for anything else than something a person can sing along to. In hip hop however, there is still this 90's nostalgia going on that basically makes you talk about something deep and meaningful, even though it started out as party-music.
I like your movie-example so let's look at Birdman, if one didn't know why they chose these specific actors and that specific drummer to compose the music for the movie, the move doesn't make sense, new genres demand more introspection in the beginning. Just as Bob Dylan was one the first singer&songwriters out there and the lyrics were really important but look at Ed Sheeran now, not that many care that A-team is about an ex that took and overdose and died, they just liked the melody and his voice or Little Things is about a fat chick he liked. The same goes for Death Grips, with their culture-jamming they also do this really deep, layered, meaningful experience and lyrics is a part of that. Just like you can't listen to a Death Grips track with a cheap headset because of all the different layers in their music as well.
Simon O'Hagan I agree.. but this shit slaps
Simon O'Hagan I feel like reading up lyrics is something big in Hip Hop, it makes it what it is.
Loving this album though, mad catchy. I think it is a great transition from Exmilitary and I feel that the label signing had no affect on Death Grips' original direction. Zach Hill said in an interview that their next album is supposed to be the most abrasive of the the three, so I can't wait to see Beezy review it lmao
I want to get into death grips, any thoughts or ideas or suggestions?
+Jared cook They get more abrasive with each album, so start with Exmilitary or Money Store. Money store is considered the most accessible
+Jared cook listen to it ironically, before you know it youll be hooked
+Lerm actually accurate
Peter Saudino thats how i get people into them. "hey listen to this song guillotine isnt it funny and weird" before i know it theyre just as into death grips as me
So basically a meme?
Personally I think it's one of the best albums from this year. I love the fact that they made such a catchy- yet "quirky" bizarre album.
Death Grips went over a lot of peoples heads,,jus sayin
So what you're saying is that Death Grips is a joke. My feelings exactly. What a shit project with snobby fans with their heads up their own asses.
No, that's what you said and I'm far from a snobby fan.
@@JTNugget speaking for yourself there bub?? 😂
@@seriousbismuth2173 lmao 4 year old comments
@@JTNugget I keep seeing this notion that just because a comment is old that makes it any less stupid or subject to grief validation.. why? It's still just as stupid TODAY as it was 4 years ago.😐
Thanks for exposing me (and my family, and everyone else I talk to) to new music. That's what DEHH is all about. Used the excuse of my son's (14th) birthday to buy this album, and a few others. I didn't tell him anything about it, and he told me that he liked Death Grips' music. He said the music was cool, so then I showed him some videos. Good job guys!