Jakob Grimminger - the bearer of the Nazi Blood Flag - part two of two

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2023
  • Jakob Grimminger was possibly one of the most famous people in the Third Reich, famous because as the bearer of the National Socialist blood flag, he appears in many photographs with Hitler - so did a lot of people you may think. However, something that no-one else did other than Hitler, he appeared on a stamp. He appeared on the 12 + 38pf stamps, first day of issue 20 April 1945. Hang on, how is that possible, as the stamps were printed in Vienna and Vienna was captured on 13 April 1945? I appreciate that stamps are distributed before the first day of issue but given that the Soviets were close to Vienna at the beginning of the month and the battle for the city began on 6 April 1945, then the bureaucracy of the Third Reich must have continued to have been unburdened with the cares of war.
    Jakob Grimminger was born on 25 April 1892 in Oberhausen, today a district of Augsburg, the son of a foreman Josef Grimminger and his wife Wilhelmine, née Gruber. He was brought up as a Protestant in an overwhelming Catholic area - in fact, of the early Nazis he was one of very few Protestants. After completing elementary school, he was trained as a model carpenter and so I bet he would be very pleased to see today that one can buy models of him .
    He was 22 when WW1 started. From 1914 to 1917 he was employed as an aircraft mechanic in France and Belgium. This job would have been relatively secure, not particularly dangerous, comparatively speaking, as bombing airfields was not a regular feature in WW1 and I suspect that there were not many aircraft mechanics. Nonetheless he clearly wanted to do his bit, so he volunteered for the infantry and was sent with German expeditionary troops to the Ottoman Empire.
    By the time Grimminger arrived in the Middle East, the Ottoman Empire was facing defeat. Grimminger was part of the increased military support sent to keep the Ottomans in the war. The German troops were actually supposed to help recapture Baghdad from the British, but in October 1917 this goal was abandoned. The soldiers were moved to Palestine to secure the front in order to stop the British advance there. They had not only to face the regular British army but also Arab militias led by Thomas Edward Lawrence (“Lawrence of Arabia”) which carried out ambushes, particularly against the Hejaz Railway, in order to prevent troop movements and logistics.
    In September 1917 the Sinai front collapsed. Jerusalem was evacuated by the Ottoman troops on 9 December 1917 and the following days, and the German high command also left its headquarters on the Mount of Olives in the Auguste Viktoria Hospital and withdrew to Nazareth . The headquarters was there until September 1918.
    By the summer of 1918, ther were around 16,000 German soldiers in Palestine. From September 1918, the German and Ottoman troops were in full retreat.
    During the military collapse of the Ottoman Empire, numerous smaller German units in the Asia Corps had to fend for themselves in order to save their lives. Their skill and bravery got the admiration of their opponent Thomas E. Lawrence who wrote :
    “Here for the first time I became proud of the enemy who had killed my brothers. They were two thousand miles from home, without hope in strange, unknown lands, in a situation desperate enough to break even the strongest nerves. Nevertheless, their squads held tightly together, ordered in ranks, and sailed through the wildly surging sea of Turks and Arabs like ironclads, silent and with their heads held high. If they were attacked, they stopped, took up a fighting position and gave well-aimed fire. There was no rush, no shouting, no uncertainty. They were magnificent. ”
    The conditions were very difficult. Even the commander of the Asia Corps, Colonel Gustav von Oppen caught cholera and died from it.
    On 30 October 1918, Turkey capitulated and concluded the Armistice of Mudros (on Lemnos ) on 31 October 1918, which guaranteed safe conduct for the German and Austro-Hungarian troops on its territory. After the surrender, the German Asia Corps was transported to Constantinople on the Anatolian Railway and interned there in POW camps. They were released in the Spring of 1919.
    During his time in the Middle East, Grimminger won both the Ottoman Medal known as the Iron Crescent and the Iron Cross Second Class.
    After the war, Grimminger returned to his parents’ home in Munich at Weisskopfstrasse 17. He got a job with Maschinenfabrik FF Kustermann GmbH machine factory in Munich. We know that he was working there at the time he joined the Nazi Party thanks to a letter confirming employment which is in the German federal archives in Koblenz.

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  • @zingwilder9989
    @zingwilder9989 6 місяців тому +13

    Grimminger was a mere ceremonial old fighter (thug) that was promoted to Standartenführer for his position as the bearer of the Blood Flag. There is no evidence that he was complicit in any murders of the innocents, but was obviously involved in their persecution. I personally believe that the Blutfahne was looted, unwittingly, by an American Soldier, but was probably destroyed later; due to it being a symbol of hatred. Also, yes, either Grimminger's family couldn't afford the continued rent on his grave, or didn't want to bother with it any longer.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +3

      As I said in the video, there is nothing to convict him personally but the circumstantial evidence is against him.

    • @zingwilder9989
      @zingwilder9989 6 місяців тому +3

      @@HistoryonUA-cam Yes, Mr. Heath, I realize that you did say that. Also, yes, considering his role in the propaganda machine of the Third Reich, I wouldn't put extreme violence beyond him. He was a devout Nazi. It's also unsettling to see that historical scaled figures are being made of him.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 6 місяців тому +1

      Good old Jakob. 👍

  • @deanedge5988
    @deanedge5988 6 місяців тому +4

    My ghost story for Christmas - you tread a dangerous and frightening path with skill and decency. I wish you a bigger audience in 2024.

  • @troll4445
    @troll4445 6 місяців тому +7

    @8:04 Standing at Grimminger‘s right is SS Leibstandarte‘s Wilhelm Mohnke.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +4

      Very well done - I did not notice although I am absolutely useless at recognising people as a rule. If you see anyone else you know, make a note please - it could come in handy for future videos!

  • @suepalin9202
    @suepalin9202 6 місяців тому +6

    It's in your camper van, isn't it, Alan? Another fascinating video. Thanks and best!

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +2

      It looks like I have been caught out on that one Sue. Mind you, in the video on the March on Coburg, no-one mentioned the bit in the video where I said that neither the dog nor I wear our Coburg Medals in Germany.

    • @suepalin9202
      @suepalin9202 6 місяців тому +1

      In mitigation (and in shame!), I haven't listened to that one! But, I will! @@HistoryonUA-cam

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому

      @@suepalin9202 I might have spoiled the video for you now Sue!

  • @skathwoelya2935
    @skathwoelya2935 6 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting. Always pleased to learn something new about WW2. Thank you for making this.

  • @iDoTechOK
    @iDoTechOK 6 місяців тому +3

    Great, Alan. Thank you.

  • @michaelcase8574
    @michaelcase8574 5 місяців тому +3

    When you see that mass of soldiers in the film, i can't help wondering how many of them survived the war.

  • @philbachmann6398
    @philbachmann6398 6 місяців тому +4

    Sometimes Storm Troops wore a jumper under their Brown Shirts.
    Interesting insights into Schaub!!
    Gitta Sereny says people a different now, a different era in Europe.
    She would know much more about Europe than I so I will accept her opinion.
    Very enjoyable video Alan. 🙏🇦🇺

  • @crisslastname9417
    @crisslastname9417 6 місяців тому +5

    After watching part 1, I was shocked to see that there is a model of this guy you can buy. Strange.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +1

      I suspect (but don't know for sure) that models of Hitler or Stalin can be bought too!

    • @lewdecker1442
      @lewdecker1442 6 місяців тому +2

      For collectors of models, there are models of Himmler,Hitler, etc .

    • @chairmanalf7856
      @chairmanalf7856 6 місяців тому

      Dragon 1/6th size figures. They also sold figures of prominent allies and characters from various war films, like Robert Shaw from ‘Battle of the Bulge’ and Sean Connery from ‘A bridge too far.’

  • @greggriffin1
    @greggriffin1 6 місяців тому +3

    Great info thank you

  • @isawa6649
    @isawa6649 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Alan.

  • @dannyc.jewell8788
    @dannyc.jewell8788 6 місяців тому +1

    I may do a painting of this

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred3563 6 місяців тому +1

    BREAKFAST AND A PIPE AND A COFFEE AND A MUST TOO WATCH DAILY ALAN VIDEO.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому

      I will have to go back to the day job before long, so it will be back to a weekly video!

  • @beowulf1312
    @beowulf1312 6 місяців тому +3

    There is no evidence Grimminger took part in any pogrom, not circumstantial or direct. You base it on his being a prominent party member resident in Munich. So, he could have been ill or decided not to participate. He seems to be a limited character who never progressed far in responsibility in the party.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +1

      There is evidence he was there on that day - there are at least two photographs that he participated in the ceremonies on that day, so he was around. He might have been ill in the evening, yes. I stated clearly that the evidence is circumstantial and based on the diary of Goebbels, who I am sure, you would agree was around.

  • @stefanebert7171
    @stefanebert7171 6 місяців тому +4

    Hi Alan, hope you're doing good. Could you imaginge to extent your content to Allied leaders? Your channel will reach 100k Subs in '24! Always enjoining your content! Never heard of Grimminger. Best from Hamburg, Germany

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +4

      Hello Stefan. I don't have the same interest for the British and Americans as I do for Germans, Soviets, Poles and Italians. I came to the conclusion that as a linguist, I perhaps have more to offer doing people from those countries as there is always the chance that I might find out something that is not published in English. I have piles of material on several hard disks which will take ages to get through. Also as I live in Poland and Germany, I can get into archives here which is not at all possible if the video was about an American for example. The videos I did on UK and US subjects have not been particularly popular either! But thanks for the thought!

    • @cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338
      @cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338 6 місяців тому +2

      @@HistoryonUA-camI’m American and don’t have much interest.

    • @stefanebert7171
      @stefanebert7171 6 місяців тому

      @@HistoryonUA-cam Sounds fair. So many things that have yet to be discovered! Good luck, my friend! Maybe you can check on the military resistance. There is so much to tell, right?

  • @drbrainstein1644
    @drbrainstein1644 6 місяців тому +3

    I know where they hid the Blut Fahne!

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +1

      In that case keep it to yourself, I don't want piles of people turning up to see it at my place!

  • @michaelmallal9101
    @michaelmallal9101 6 місяців тому +4

    Love the Wagner. Haven't head it for years.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +1

      It was not the original soundtrack. I was stuck between Wagner and the Bee Gees!

  • @willemvanlent6955
    @willemvanlent6955 6 місяців тому +3

    STOP DEMONIZING THOSE PEOPLE!!!
    LOOK AROUND YOU!!!

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому +1

      Stop demonizing what people? I am looking around me but I can't see anyone who is being demonized.

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 6 місяців тому +2

    Magnificent again. The fabulous timelining, conversations recorded, and the annual Cult Remembrance Service, is fabulously revealing. Alone. All Martin Gilberts efforts, and Crystal Night-no way this Thug did not participate, the blood lust forged did not easily pass, and irreparable damage done, to Humanity. Cult of law unto Death. Popular still, and legally very busy. Into That Darkness, ordered this day at last, the magnificent Gitta Sereny and Speer, up for third reading, dies alone in a London Hotel Room. But for, perhaps, a visitor. Stangl would have come from that Blood Service. SS Totenphoff. Busy very quickly as you record Tino, 33,000 rounded up, and not just Jewish Peoples. The Nuremberg Laws identified many Peoples, as State Deviant, A Socials and Sub Humans, Homosexuals and Gypsies, Jews, Poles, Slavs. The Handicapped and Blind. We do the same today, and call these Identifying Laws, Civil Rights.

    • @edwinsalau150
      @edwinsalau150 6 місяців тому

      What happened after the war to collaborators in the Channel Islands?Jews,identified and handed up by those animals?Anything?

  • @AmazingSurrogats
    @AmazingSurrogats 6 місяців тому +2

    To be honest: all that symbolism in the 3rd Reich, especially that Blutfahne, had a magic aura around. It was soaked by the blood of a "comrade" who was shot in a march with his people in an attempt to change the political standoff, very well knowing that they could all be killed by the armed executive forces. They were unarmed and yet marched on.
    Of course that flag was a special symbol.
    Its all these very simple symbols, words, phrases that people in general fall for. Not only in that time, but also nowadays. Its always the same. Because mankind is configured to listen to easy to understand slogans and phrases (and lies).
    Always think about that.

    • @HistoryonYouTube
      @HistoryonYouTube  6 місяців тому

      In agreeing with you on the symbolism, you are completely wrong about the Nazi insurrectionists being unarmed. They even had heavy machine guns. It was the police who were out gunned.

  • @borockjensen6757
    @borockjensen6757 6 місяців тому +3

    J propangada

  • @Occident.
    @Occident. 6 місяців тому +5

    Good old Jakob Griminger. Stayed loyal to the end like the best of the Germans. How petty of the All-lies To seize his assets. Disgraceful shamefull behaviour. But Karma is going to be a bitch on the victors of that war. The worm has already turned! Rest easy in Valhalla Jakob. 👍

    • @Flynnmiv
      @Flynnmiv 6 місяців тому +2

      Blah blah blah blah blah blah

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 6 місяців тому

      ​@@FlynnmivOctober 7th was a turning point in history.