Although I'm a GWR fan through and through, I do reserve a special fondness of Princess Elizabeth. As an avid trainspotter and videographer in my 20's Princess Elizabeth was among my favourites. The sheer magesty of this beast is hard to ignore. Its absolutely massive and even when its stood still at the station, you can get a sense of the raw power that its able to unleash. Also, my GF at the time was called Elizabeth, and this was the only locomotive that she would accompany me with on my trainspotting excursions. 🤣
Funny thing about the Princess Royal class, as they were not quite right when they were first built, and, despite Stanier's mania for standardisation, NO ONE ENGINE WAS COMPLETELY SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER! But, yes, a great class, often pulling such expresses as the "Midday-Scot", "Birmingham Scot" and "Liverpool Express".
All the Princess Royals were allocated to Edge Hill at some time. The Turbomotive was always shedded at Camden; after rebuilding, it was a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation.
46200 was still at 12B Carlisle (Upperby) in the scrap line in August 1964, I was there to see it, my first Stanier Princess, what a cop.,It should have been rescued.
@@davidmccall2897 nope. If everything that "should have been rescued" according to enthusiasts had been then I hate to think what more of a mess of beggers preservation would be. As it stands there's plenty of stuff that's been "saved" and left to deteriorate in what can only be described as an absolutely unorganised waste of resources that results in many multiples of some things vs none of others and even worse sole examples being allowed to rot being overlooked for even covered storage and conservation all while two towns over yet another group of wise guys decides to pour money into yet another beeching axed line that "never should have shut" so that can lose money hand over fist and well. Railway preservation ladies and gents, a bloomin' mess. 😂
I love Railways in general. And one thing has remained through and through, is my love of these locomotives. Tale of two companies on a Race to the North, bringing some of the greatest engine designs the world has ever seen. It’s a shame that most were lost. But it makes the ones that were saved all the better.
Saw several of these through Wigan North Western, Leyland and Preston towards the end of their working lives - beautiful machines, clean lines and a certain elegance on the track. By comparison, the Coronation class - we called them semis - were bruisers, moving like a ruby prop forward, with a deeper beat.
After rebuilding, 46202 differed somewhat from the rest of the class, and has been described as a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation. To be precise, it had the same size cylinders as the Coronations, hence it had a higher tractive effort. The frames were also different from all the other LMS Pacifics.
It's amazing that there were so many changes made in a single class over the span of a few years. The Pennsylvania Railroad would test a few designs, and then build 400+ copies. The class E-6S was one of the smallest classes with only 83 examples being built.
Early '50's trip from Lime Street to Euston on the Merseyside Express. The front carriages were off the end of the platform, and the train was 18 carriages long. My mum took me to the restaurant car for lunch and they had to serve the soup in two passes as there was enough rock and roll to empty a fulls soup bowl. Out of Limes St at 10:10 am , into Euston at 1:45pm, if I recall correctly.
Hard to imagine one engine was in not 1, but 2 accidents, and then after the second one, a year later, one of their sisters was damaged and scrapped following the second worst British rail accident.
Stanier, having come from Swindon onto the LMS incorporating the lessons of the Kings into his new Pacifics, was astounded at the (how shall I put it?) less-than-perfect workmanship of the Princess Royals.
Hi bud, I just wanted to say but there is a person under the channel name "Steamboy's Adventures" reuploading your videos claiming them as their own and saying the narrator is 'an A.I. voice'.
You know what’s interesting? The boiler barrel has the same minimum and maximum diameters as the Kings, but the barrel is four feet longer on the Lizzies.
I thought Turbomotive was a splendid experiment. It looked so cool with only one coupling rod. All the big Stanier pacifics were imposing and very powerful. Great video.
Can you make videos about all the BR type 1, 2, 4, & 5 as well as every single Pacific Edward Thompson for the London and North Rastern of Railway please. Please respond when you get this please.
I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames for this, but I find many of Stanier's large engines rather 'stodgy'. Superb engineering and magnificent performers of course - but I don't think they look particularly attractive.
err no Albert, Duke of York(later George VI after the abdication of his brother Edward VIII(real name David)) was very definitely Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth 2nd's) father. Her grandfather was George V whose real first name was George. the thing about calling people out and calling 'shame' is that it helps to actually be correct yourself when doing so...
The first train set I had in the 1960s was a Triang Princess Elizabeth. I’ve loved the engine ever since.
Although I'm a GWR fan through and through, I do reserve a special fondness of Princess Elizabeth. As an avid trainspotter and videographer in my 20's Princess Elizabeth was among my favourites. The sheer magesty of this beast is hard to ignore. Its absolutely massive and even when its stood still at the station, you can get a sense of the raw power that its able to unleash.
Also, my GF at the time was called Elizabeth, and this was the only locomotive that she would accompany me with on my trainspotting excursions. 🤣
Funny thing about the Princess Royal class, as they were not quite right when they were first built, and, despite Stanier's mania for standardisation, NO ONE ENGINE WAS COMPLETELY SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER! But, yes, a great class, often pulling such expresses as the "Midday-Scot", "Birmingham Scot" and "Liverpool Express".
All the Princess Royals were allocated to Edge Hill at some time. The Turbomotive was always shedded at Camden; after rebuilding, it was a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation.
Hmmm... I'mma hazard a guess that this is the 90 tons of thunder that the band Saxon sang so passionately about in the song "Princess Of The Night"
Indeed it is.
The pioneer loco 46200 finished up at a Scottish scrapyard in 1963, despite efforts at rescue.
1964
Criminal
Connells of Calder, a smaller firm compared to giants such as Henderson of Airdrie and Arnott Young at Troon.
46200 was still at 12B Carlisle (Upperby) in the scrap line in August 1964, I was there to see it, my first Stanier Princess, what a cop.,It should have been rescued.
@@davidmccall2897 nope. If everything that "should have been rescued" according to enthusiasts had been then I hate to think what more of a mess of beggers preservation would be.
As it stands there's plenty of stuff that's been "saved" and left to deteriorate in what can only be described as an absolutely unorganised waste of resources that results in many multiples of some things vs none of others and even worse sole examples being allowed to rot being overlooked for even covered storage and conservation all while two towns over yet another group of wise guys decides to pour money into yet another beeching axed line that "never should have shut" so that can lose money hand over fist and well.
Railway preservation ladies and gents, a bloomin' mess. 😂
I love Railways in general. And one thing has remained through and through, is my love of these locomotives. Tale of two companies on a Race to the North, bringing some of the greatest engine designs the world has ever seen. It’s a shame that most were lost. But it makes the ones that were saved all the better.
Saw several of these through Wigan North Western, Leyland and Preston towards the end of their working lives - beautiful machines, clean lines and a certain elegance on the track.
By comparison, the Coronation class - we called them semis - were bruisers, moving like a ruby prop forward, with a deeper beat.
That one with the brown and black livery at 0:48 looks very smart.
9:17 Great Scotland Yard. It's British Railways Standard Class 8 Pacific Steam Locomotive No. 71000 Duke Of Gloucester. Thanks Mate. X
Despite being an LNER fan. I do love, and admire LMS locomotives. The Princess Royals & Coronations especially.
Great video as always Ruairidh 👍
Same here. I'll always be a Great Western bloke, but, I can still appreciate the mighty Midland designs.
All those skills required to build a steam locomotive, quite mind blowing.
12:43 look at that both preserved princesses passing each other
So very nice. A class that should never be overlooked.
After rebuilding, 46202 differed somewhat from the rest of the class, and has been described as a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation. To be precise, it had the same size cylinders as the Coronations, hence it had a higher tractive effort. The frames were also different from all the other LMS Pacifics.
Ah the Princess Royals.. the A4’s beauty pageant rival!
The first shot must have been in the early to mid 2000s with that Virgin Crosscountry Voyager.
It's amazing that there were so many changes made in a single class over the span of a few years. The Pennsylvania Railroad would test a few designs, and then build 400+ copies. The class E-6S was one of the smallest classes with only 83 examples being built.
Early '50's trip from Lime Street to Euston on the Merseyside Express. The front carriages were off the end of the platform, and the train was 18 carriages long. My mum took me to the restaurant car for lunch and they had to serve the soup in two passes as there was enough rock and roll to empty a fulls soup bowl. Out of Limes St at 10:10 am , into Euston at 1:45pm, if I recall correctly.
Behing Princess Margaret Rose. A truly huge locomotive to a 9 year old.
Stanier’s super King/castle. Lots of Swindon practice but not slavish copying. No welsh coal in LMS so huge wide firebox for example.
Hard to imagine one engine was in not 1, but 2 accidents, and then after the second one, a year later, one of their sisters was damaged and scrapped following the second worst British rail accident.
I'm sorry did he say that someone bought one of these locos for 60k in 85?
Ffs
A wonderful fact-filled documentary with the usual excellent editing and narration!
Good old Armathwaite station
Lovely!
I love hearing about good workhorses.
And how interesting, that Turbomotive. I'll have to do some more reading on that.
Thank you Ruairidh for another interesting video, much appreciated.
Stanier, having come from Swindon onto the LMS incorporating the lessons of the Kings into his new Pacifics, was astounded at the (how shall I put it?) less-than-perfect workmanship of the Princess Royals.
Excellent video, you learn something new every day as they say. 500 ton and over 100 mph it's mad when you think about it.
Brilliant, just brilliant! You certainly pay attention to your surroundings Sir. 🇬🇧
Well this has just made me sad about her Maj :(
Thank you so very much for this excellent insight into this truly great locomotive
Lovely to see your own work included in the video.
Finally the Princess Royal class, after the king class from GWR, I wonder when would be the southern railway turn.
Who manufactured the steam turbine?
Im personally a gwr fan tho i live in heavy lms territory but i still love the lms classss like the coronanations and 8fs etc
Excellent, cracking video!
Hi bud, I just wanted to say but there is a person under the channel name "Steamboy's Adventures" reuploading your videos claiming them as their own and saying the narrator is 'an A.I. voice'.
Well done! Great story.
You know what’s interesting? The boiler barrel has the same minimum and maximum diameters as the Kings, but the barrel is four feet longer on the Lizzies.
Are you gonna try doing a video on the LMS Stanier Class 8F
0:48 Interesting previously unknown LMS "experimental orange" livery! lol :)
Wow awesome video i was wondering if you will do a video on the Princess Royals? Can i ask will you be doing video on the Coronation Class?
IMMENSE BULK!
Great video! By the way, your microphone quality has decreased significantly in recent videos. You might want to get that fixed!
My favourite class of loco
Might have been the successor to "The Great Bear" had the GWR chosen Stanier instead of Collett.
Nice work mate!!
Wonderful.
Will that steam locomotive be used for the Coronation on the 6th May. Such a iconic British built steam locomotive.
not currently in traffic
Not all the railways were put into the big 4 eith the grouping of 1923.
I wanna see a video on the black 5s next
Princess Elizabeth, the namesake of 6201, became the queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland not just 'Great Britain'.
Happy Saturday ya'll, thank you Rory.
Aunt Barbara adores you!
Excellent! Any chance of an in-depth on "Turbomotive" 6202?
I thought Turbomotive was a splendid experiment. It looked so cool with only one coupling rod. All the big Stanier pacifics were imposing and very powerful. Great video.
You should do the princess coronation class or the duchess as they are known as
Recognise Armathwaite station at the end. My regular viewing spot!
I'm al lner and Lms fan
When’s the A1/A3 coming out?
Jeeeeej a new video! 🎉❤
The LMS was not bankrupt in 1948
Great 👍
10 minutes ago? Excellent quality from you as always though
Aunt Barbara adores you!
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I presume the length of the barrel with the firebox was fine, compared to say the 23ft barrel & 8ft firebox of The Great Bear
Fresh Rudy! Yessssss
What about the history of the class 319s
Can you make videos about all the BR type 1, 2, 4, & 5 as well as every single Pacific Edward Thompson for the London and North Rastern of Railway please. Please respond when you get this please.
Demanding much?! 🤣
Very early for one of you're videos
Nice
Were Mallets ever considered in Britain?
The 'compound' aspect was done, but never a success.
i have princess louise in Trainz
I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames for this, but I find many of Stanier's large engines rather 'stodgy'. Superb engineering and magnificent performers of course - but I don't think they look particularly attractive.
Prince Albert was Queen Elizabeth's grandfather not Her father. Shame on You !:-)
It's not a mistake. King George VI's actual name was Albert, or 'Bertie' to his family. He adopted the name 'George' when he became king.
err no Albert, Duke of York(later George VI after the abdication of his brother Edward VIII(real name David)) was very definitely Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth 2nd's) father. Her grandfather was George V whose real first name was George.
the thing about calling people out and calling 'shame' is that it helps to actually be correct yourself when doing so...
Sorry if this shows my ignorance, but how do you pronounce your Christian name ?
(This is the only thing that 'bugs' me about your videos !)
It's pronounced "Rory".
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