This is the type of horse training I used to do. I was trained by Johnny Brazil, one of the best hackamore/bridle horseman who ever lived. I quit doing it because most horse owners didn't have the knowledge or hands necessary to do the horse justice. The man who made this video does and understands what the process is. I respectfully tip my hat to him.
One of my favorite videos. Camera work is truly appreciated. Many videos (rarely yours) are hampered by the fact that the explanations are helpful and create anticipation but then you never get a good view of what's being explained. Deb is really good at that.
So clear and to the point, it’s like taking a blindfold off, having never been exposed to the bridle horse training. Wish I was a kid learning this stuff, prolly woulda completely changed my life.
Thank you for putting this valuable information out there for any type of audience without judgement. High quality knowledge given freely and without arrogance allows for true learning, and that is why I am here. I wish you were my grampa and I could learn in real life. Thank you so much!
I love how my guy gives it to us straight without being negative, but at the same time doesn't act like he is clicker training us with treats! Thanks Pat n Deb!
Every day is a learning day in every video I watch you explaining how to use the equipment I learn something thank you for explaining so we'll saludos from Sonora
I've been doing this for years! Glad to know I've been doing something right. Start in a bosal, and let the critter learn how to carry the bit for themselves. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of practice.
This how my dad taught me to train/work horses. People look at me like they're never seen it before or an old style. I'll tell you this right now. My horse is more responsive and respects the bit more. While they're fighting with their horse and the snaffle bit. We're mexican our style is the Charro/Vaquero reining.
Thanks for another great video Pat! I really like to train the horses in the old California way. So much easier to get a horse sensitive and listen to, and understand the bite when riding them with towrein ... Beautiful bite and headstall by the way!
Thanks for your time that you take to share your experience with all of us that are trying to be better would love to see a close up of your palm concho.
It is my understanding that Ed Connell didn’t believe that the rider’s seat and legs played a role in communicating with the horse and that it was all in the hands. We believe the opposite, that the only role of the hands is to pick the horse into collection and then communication comes primarily from the seat and legs.
You know, it never occurred to me, but you are right, Ed Connell did not mention seat and legs. I suspect he unknowingly or unconsciously was using them, but now that we have studied the work of Olivier’s, Baucher and Sylvia Locke, we certainly place much emphasis on seat bones, and legs, and body position, and where we are looking. I agree with you. Keep up the good work and the pithy old cowboy comments. Adelante!
Unfortunately hobbles are prohibited in Sweden. Making a Bridle Horse is my goal and I will do my best to come somewhere near that with help from your videos and books. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
My biggest issue is finding reliable stores to buy the equipment now that I’m back in MO. NO ONE knows how to ride or train like this and finding equipment is SO extremely hard around here. I have to order from out of state and hope for the best.
So grateful to have found you guys... I'm from South Africa and have a 10yr old Appaloosa gelding I'm training for trail riding (He's very sensitive/reactive and so was never properly backed). If he becomes as responsive from the seat as you are able to make your horses, would it be acceptable to continue with the Bosal and never transition to Bit?? He's no more sensitive to the environmental threats than any other horse but is hypersensitive to human impositions. The other day I got a little excited and gave impulsion with my legs a little harder than normal (too far too fast) and drove him into a panic... If I can get it right I believe he will easily respond to my seat.
We only use a bosal on young horses, under 5, who we are taking to the bridle. Transitioning to a western bit will ensure your safety and will also allow you to gain a higher level of collection which will teach your horse to carry his weight on the hindquarters. This will help him to remain sound throughout his life.
Pat, I am curious, do you ever use a chileno? (A short shanked South American ring bit) Several bridle horsemen will use one for a short time, to sharpen (or more precise, lighten the horses response to the signal) up a bridle horse. I have never used one, I question whether this is even necessary. One thing I know is a chileno will do more harm than good if the rider does not have good hands and excellent timing.
Thank you for bringing up this subject. We would never use a Chileno. We want our horses to have an understanding of the job they are being asked to do and not just react to pain. The signal we use is the spoon of the spade lifting off of the horse’s tongue. After that, the horse tunes into the rider’s body. Our highest aspiration is for our horses to not be resentful. I don’t believe it would be possible to ride in a Chileno and not have some resentment in the horse. Bottom line, horses get dull because of poor timing and lack of release on the part of the rider, A Chileno won’t fix that. And once you get a horse dull to that kind of bit, where exactly would you go from there? Best to have a look in the mirror and get better at what you do.
We don’t use a snaffle at all when we make a spade bit horse. First two weeks of riding is done in a halter, then the 5/8 bosal, 1/2 bosal, bosalito, two rein, and the spade.
@@PatnDebPuckett I understand that but I'm talking about an older horse that didn't come up on a bosal or hackamore, like one that only had a snaffle or shanked snaffle in it's mouth. Instead of a two rein set up just go straight up in a bridle??
We don’t use a spade on an older horse like that. For that kind of horse, we would go with a half breed. We don’t want to use a spade on any horse that has experienced a bit used as leverage because a spade bit is supposed to be a signal only.
Hello Sebastian. I don’t quite understand your question. I think you’re asking where we got Pat’s armitas. They were made by a man in California. Here is his website: www.extendinc.com/tullyhole/chinks.htm . Let me know if there’s anything else I can do for you.
Oki means hello your blackfoot friend from Canada Alberta brocket I was wondering what's pricing on your cricket snaffles n curb bits I would very much like one please n thank u And like always ride free ad the wind n like mountain water flows
A well trained bosal horse hardly needs the bit... The spade just allows micro instruction...pressure of seat and leg takes care of most needed signals.
I have to address your statement. Because of the demands on a ranch, a bosal horse will eventually learn two things. First, to get dull to the bosal even if you have the hands of Ray Hunt. Second, some day when chasing a cow across a meadow, he will learn that he can go right through a bosal. So, in the working ranch world, the spade bit is essential for balance and longevity.
@@fleetskipper1810 Ok maybe my response was b blocked but you really don't need to progress to anything as long as your getting the response you want .. I do not understand why he said that eventually if your chasing cattle through a meadow or what ever they will run through your hand .. I've roped lots and lots of cattle and they won't all just run through your hand
This is the type of horse training I used to do. I was trained by Johnny Brazil, one of the best hackamore/bridle horseman who ever lived. I quit doing it because most horse owners didn't have the knowledge or hands necessary to do the horse justice. The man who made this video does and understands what the process is. I respectfully tip my hat to him.
This type of horse training is all but lost. I tip my hat to this man for documenting how a bridle horse is actually made. Thank you my friend.
Your UA-cam is also a treasure Mr Trocha
What else can I say... This man knows what he's doing.
One of my favorite videos. Camera work is truly appreciated. Many videos (rarely yours) are hampered by the fact that the explanations are helpful and create anticipation but then you never get a good view of what's being explained. Deb is really good at that.
The man is amazing. I’ve learned so much from him
So clear and to the point, it’s like taking a blindfold off, having never been exposed to the bridle horse training. Wish I was a kid learning this stuff, prolly woulda completely changed my life.
Incredible resource! I'm overwhelmed with gratitude. Thank you for sharing this with us ❤. Also, I cannot wait to use that salt trick its genius!
Thank you for putting this valuable information out there for any type of audience without judgement. High quality knowledge given freely and without arrogance allows for true learning, and that is why I am here. I wish you were my grampa and I could learn in real life. Thank you so much!
This brilliant horseman has shown us a glimpse of eternity by horseback. Advanced beyond my pay grade but appreciated. Florida
I love how my guy gives it to us straight without being negative, but at the same time doesn't act like he is clicker training us with treats! Thanks Pat n Deb!
Every day is a learning day in every video I watch you explaining how to use the equipment I learn something thank you for explaining so we'll saludos from Sonora
"...and you are in fact a dink." LOL!
Pat is hilarious and love his wisdom
Came here to say this too!!! 😂😂😂
Much appreciate this footage ...
I've been doing this for years! Glad to know I've been doing something right. Start in a bosal, and let the critter learn how to carry the bit for themselves. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of practice.
This how my dad taught me to train/work horses. People look at me like they're never seen it before or an old style. I'll tell you this right now. My horse is more responsive and respects the bit more. While they're fighting with their horse and the snaffle bit.
We're mexican our style is the Charro/Vaquero reining.
Thanks for another great video Pat!
I really like to train the horses in the old California way.
So much easier to get a horse sensitive and listen to, and understand the bite when riding them with towrein ...
Beautiful bite and headstall by the way!
What a great watch - you are The Best 👍
Thanks for your time that you take to share your experience with all of us that are trying to be better would love to see a close up of your palm concho.
Ed Connell would be proud of you. Thanks. Pat
It is my understanding that Ed Connell didn’t believe that the rider’s seat and legs played a role in communicating with the horse and that it was all in the hands. We believe the opposite, that the only role of the hands is to pick the horse into collection and then communication comes primarily from the seat and legs.
@@PatnDebPuckett "pick the horse into collection". What an evocative phrase!! That's exactly what you do -- careful light-handed pick up on the reins.
You know, it never occurred to me, but you are right, Ed Connell did not mention seat and legs. I suspect he unknowingly or unconsciously was using them, but now that we have studied the work of Olivier’s, Baucher and Sylvia Locke, we certainly place much emphasis on seat bones, and legs, and body position, and where we are looking. I agree with you. Keep up the good work and the pithy old cowboy comments. Adelante!
Great job Pat
Hope the next generation dials in
Great !!! Loving the education!! Thank-you leesa, knappa Oregon
Another great video!
Thank you for sharing!
James from North Texas
Unfortunately hobbles are prohibited in Sweden. Making a Bridle Horse is my goal and I will do my best to come somewhere near that with help from your videos and books. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Excellent, informative video, thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving Deb and Pat.
Thank you! perfect start to my day! would like to see the Mona Lisa up close. Rach in Spain
My ancestors trained and road in this style. In less than 3 generations it was lost. Sad, I wish I had this experience in my life.
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
The salt trick is a trick only old arrendadores would know.
Adán Alcalá León I will have to look for that word. The base, root arrenda?
That’s a good looking horse
So interesting.
Oh so nice to see the training witnessed in the old days...old Sam Jackson and Mr. Wilson in Siskiyou County would be applauding from heaven...
Thanks for a great video hope you guys have a great thanksgiving.
My biggest issue is finding reliable stores to buy the equipment now that I’m back in MO. NO ONE knows how to ride or train like this and finding equipment is SO extremely hard around here. I have to order from out of state and hope for the best.
Here’s our website: www.thedisciplinedride.com/
Love your wisdome!!!
So grateful to have found you guys... I'm from South Africa and have a 10yr old Appaloosa gelding I'm training for trail riding (He's very sensitive/reactive and so was never properly backed). If he becomes as responsive from the seat as you are able to make your horses, would it be acceptable to continue with the Bosal and never transition to Bit?? He's no more sensitive to the environmental threats than any other horse but is hypersensitive to human impositions. The other day I got a little excited and gave impulsion with my legs a little harder than normal (too far too fast) and drove him into a panic... If I can get it right I believe he will easily respond to my seat.
We only use a bosal on young horses, under 5, who we are taking to the bridle. Transitioning to a western bit will ensure your safety and will also allow you to gain a higher level of collection which will teach your horse to carry his weight on the hindquarters. This will help him to remain sound throughout his life.
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you, I'm understanding it better now 👍🏻
Thanks!
Pat May i ask where did you get the beautiful silver head ornament?
Learned a lot.
Nice job
Awesome, thank you.
Thanks pat this was verry helpfull
Could you repeat the length and width and material ( cotton?) of your hobble rope. And the tie pattern? Thanks so much.
Lander Wyoming
Pat, I am curious, do you ever use a chileno? (A short shanked South American ring bit) Several bridle horsemen will use one for a short time, to sharpen (or more precise, lighten the horses response to the signal) up a bridle horse. I have never used one, I question whether this is even necessary. One thing I know is a chileno will do more harm than good if the rider does not have good hands and excellent timing.
Ed Warnock Good question.
Thank you for bringing up this subject. We would never use a Chileno. We want our horses to have an understanding of the job they are being asked to do and not just react to pain. The signal we use is the spoon of the spade lifting off of the horse’s tongue. After that, the horse tunes into the rider’s body. Our highest aspiration is for our horses to not be resentful. I don’t believe it would be possible to ride in a Chileno and not have some resentment in the horse. Bottom line, horses get dull because of poor timing and lack of release on the part of the rider, A Chileno won’t fix that. And once you get a horse dull to that kind of bit, where exactly would you go from there? Best to have a look in the mirror and get better at what you do.
Where can I find a bosalito for The two rein? I tried your store but I only saw the 3.
THANK YOU
Been a long time since I heard the term "dink" LOL
I believe i heard Pat use the term Scissor Bill as well...LOL
EXCELENTE!!!
Can you go to a spade bit after a snaffle or the missing link bit??
We don’t use a snaffle at all when we make a spade bit horse. First two weeks of riding is done in a halter, then the 5/8 bosal, 1/2 bosal, bosalito, two rein, and the spade.
@@PatnDebPuckett I understand that but I'm talking about an older horse that didn't come up on a bosal or hackamore, like one that only had a snaffle or shanked snaffle in it's mouth. Instead of a two rein set up just go straight up in a bridle??
We don’t use a spade on an older horse like that. For that kind of horse, we would go with a half breed. We don’t want to use a spade on any horse that has experienced a bit used as leverage because a spade bit is supposed to be a signal only.
@@PatnDebPuckett oh ok. Thanks. I love yalls video and thanks for bringing awareness to the navajo nation... 😁😁
Hi, slobber bar or slobber chains on the bit, same goal?
We prefer slobber chains. They are safer because they will break if the horse gets them hung up.
nice chaps
Le pregunto si ustes tiene unos chaps viejos que no usa porque no puedo compralos son muy caros gracias deb and pat
Hello Sebastian. I don’t quite understand your question. I think you’re asking where we got Pat’s armitas. They were made by a man in California. Here is his website: www.extendinc.com/tullyhole/chinks.htm . Let me know if there’s anything else I can do for you.
How mutch is ur bosaletto
Where do you get those roller bits
We have the Missing Link Snaffle and a Santa Susana half breed available on our website:
www.thedisciplinedride.com/store
Oki means hello your blackfoot friend from Canada Alberta brocket I was wondering what's pricing on your cricket snaffles n curb bits I would very much like one please n thank u
And like always ride free ad the wind n like mountain water flows
You can go to our online store for pricing and ordering info: www.thedisciplinedride.com/store . Thank you!
From where does this technique come from
This style of horsemanship originated in early California. By way of Mexico and Spain.
Goal in life don’t be a “Dink”. Lol
hermosas las chaparreras
If a fellow / gal were to watch this AND read Ed Connell at the SAME time, he / she would become a far more savy cabalerro ......quien sabe ?
A well trained bosal horse hardly needs the bit... The spade just allows micro instruction...pressure of seat and leg takes care of most needed signals.
I have to address your statement. Because of the demands on a ranch, a bosal horse will eventually learn two things. First, to get dull to the bosal even if you have the hands of Ray Hunt. Second, some day when chasing a cow across a meadow, he will learn that he can go right through a bosal. So, in the working ranch world, the spade bit is essential for balance and longevity.
@@PatnDebPuckett You really think a well bred and trained cowhorse will become dull and run right through it ?
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you for your reply..and correction.
Jean Fish I had the same question in my mind, and I also appreciate Pat’s reply. Now I understand why the need to progress to a suitable bit.
@@fleetskipper1810 Ok maybe my response was b blocked but you really don't need to progress to anything as long as your getting the response you want .. I do not understand why he said that eventually if your chasing cattle through a meadow or what ever they will run through your hand .. I've roped lots and lots of cattle and they won't all just run through your hand
No horse needs a bit in order to be ridden. Neither do they need a mechanical hackamore, or a tie down.