In this video Pat goes over how collection starts and some of the reasons it’s important. For more information about what we do, visit us at www.thedisciplinedride.com. Thank you for watching!
I stumbled on this man's channel by chance. I normally hate watching horse training videos... However, this man's videos are the exception. Most ranch cowboys are just that, "cowboys". This man is a ranch cowboy but he is also a true "horseman". Pay attention to how he's using his hands, seat and legs. This man knows what he's doing.
It's one heck of a great feeling when you understand that your horse understands what you're trying to communicate to him ! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Thank you for putting these videos out there. Wise, kind, time tested & true horsemanship to benefit from. So nice to watch these. Really appreciated. Regards from Switzerland!
Thank you for not dilly dallying in the beginning of your videos! Lots of youtubers start their videos by repeating their title, explaining their life story leading to why they want to make the video, have a 10 second animated intro, and go on for about 2 minutes explaining what they're about to explain to you.
Great video. You can see ears of his horse telling him she is paying attention to him with every minor shift in his seat. You are so right sir that Collection is very important if you want to ride correctly and you are so right about having your horse weight on hind quarters for proper collection. Pat, Ive been studying Dressage for years and your teaching are so close to the riding principles of old dressage masters of 1800s which I find fascinating. Thank you for this extremely educational video. I think it’s great that you are passing on your great horsemanship knowledge to other students of horsemanship such as myself.
Wow..don't know if you will ever find this..but your comments are totally correct. However I was taught collection a very precise way alternated with stretching of the neck. We could teach this to any horse. Anyway Pat is a great master..and above all he is teaching the new people how to train the horse..thank you so much.
I enjoyed another great video. I like Mr. Pat's spin on doing things and I enjoy his quirky comments. I am glad he mentioned someone else will be in front of the camera too. Thank you for sharing your video and your ways with us. John Morris Western Kentucky
Pat thank you putting these videos our here. I ride English but I prefer to ride the same as the way you ride your horses, our bodies. Love you showing the collection video, my best trainer collected all his horses, they are so easy to ride when they're on their rear end & off the bits. I know the idea but you explain step by step; what we do & what the horses do. This will help me so much with the thoroughbred I'm working with off the track. Love your videos!
It's refreshing to listen to someone that truly understands what collection really requires. So many focus on the wrong things, or think that they understand collection, however they struggle to demonstrate collection with their own horses. I would like to point out that some folks performance horses actually can turn correctly like you explain in this video, definitely want to dispell the negative stereotype given to performance horses. LOL some performance horses daywork too. Thank you for the videos, I appreciate, & look forward to each one, & sometimes watch them multiple times. Outstanding content.
Love this video. good info about the ears and what it means when going backand forth. " I dont know anybody whos that important that they cant take the time" .
Finally yes yes yes, Pat you explain yourself incredibly well and I really enjoy you sharing valuable, sensible knowledge. Thank you message from down under Queensland on the Gold Coast
Sometimes I learn something new watching Pat (which is incidentally also my pop's name), and sometimes I hear affirmations of what I already know, or what I've been told my all life and maybe wasn't always patient enough to do as much as I should have. I'm still fairly young, but I think I do alright as a mediocre hand, haha. This horse reminds me a lot of a big buckskin mare I've got that supposedly had months of training at a "World Championship Winner" trainer, but... holy hell. A few weeks ago, all she knew was to brace every which way, and stampede if you added any degree of speed. I put her in a bosal for a good stretch and started riding her outside, but she still occasionally gets flashbacks of wanting to handle like a cart horse. I only avoided putting her back in the snaffle because she acts like someone has taught her how to push against it for balance to get the perceived appearance of collection. It drives me crazy, but at least this mare is smart and really seems like she wants to be a nice horse. Patience.
Loved the stop being a cross dresser comment. Thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge and experiences. Great demonstration on using your seat to stop and then to move forward.
I sure enjoy and learned a lot from this video. I started my mare in the bosal. Didn't really go to a light leverage bit until about 2-3 years when I started tracking roping machine to train for dark side roping. I had her head down but never got the real collection you speak of. She's right handy and moves each end independently but goes with an extreme level head with face verticle. More often than not the few I've let ride her have asked if she was about to buck when they lope. She's 11yr old now. I really appreciate the part on lifting reins to bend her poll. My missing link, duh. It's all logic. You've got me excited to work with her and start another young horse. Side note: Why is the mare's eyes greased? Stage makeup or fly repellent? Thank you both again from Northeast Alabama's Appalachian foothills.
Great video! For years I struggled with a gelding who never was really a pleasure to ride.. He had many of these same traits. While we learned to get along but he was never an honest horse. Even "horse trainers" had difficulty with him, and lost patients with him and went to hitting, spurring excessively, and jerking him around. I gave up on the trainer's, and just worked with him myself and really it was a case of who really trained who! Since then I have ridden alot of horses and learned alot. I really enjoy your video post! I'd love to visit one of your clinics.
Hi Pat! Great video, I've learnt so much. I'm a beginner to all this: I'd just like to know what you suggest I do when my horse refuses? Or becomes 'bored' of the training and repitions and tries to swerve out or push forward? He is one that constantly likes to challenge me and ask '"Well If I don't do it, what you gonna do about it??"
Them Older Mares that been out to pasture can be hard to soften up sometimes, I got a 9 yo but she was ready to work as she was tired of being a broodmare lol.
Are you using the Missing Link Snaffle on this horse? Why would this horse be OK in a half breed bit but not a spade? Can you make a video demonstrating the various types of bits? Thank you for another great video. I have not seen this explained and/or demonstrated anywhere else. With much respect from Cape Cod.
Good soild information and training techniques. If people that watch these videos apply what they see in these videos will have happier riders and relaxed, comfortable horses. Thank you PS... how many mama cows you running and whats your bull count
We have just enough cows to eat the grass and just enough bulls to cover the cows...Seriously though, we daywork for local ranchers. We don’t own cows. Asking that kind of question is the same as asking a person how much money he has in the bank.
@@PatnDebPuckett Just thought you might of owned a small herd. The ranchers I know are extremely proud of numbers they run, be it 20 to 1000's. Your money in the bank comment don't fit the bill
It’s probably not thought of that way any more. It used to be considered impolite to talk numbers but I’m sure that has changed. Pat and I are dinosaurs on many things.
@@PatnDebPuckett Well you're dinosaurs of vast knowledge and I truly honor your work. I'm glad some how I stumbled into your channel last year. I'm almost through with watching all your posts. Look forward to future words of wisdom from you and your husband Pat. I love his honest and funny asides on the current state o nose rooting and spinning...so true
Hello again! I just got my horse rope broke and I’m gonna start practicing sliding rope on a log. My saddle doesn’t have a horn wrap on it yet and I was wondering what you would recommend. I’m guessing mule hide but I’m not sure.
You are correct. Mule hide is what we recommend. Make sure you soak the mule hide for about 30 minutes before you put it on your saddle. Hand wring it out and put it on wet. Wrap the mule hide around the horn so that it tightens up when you slide rope rather than loosening which is clockwise if you’re right handed.
We sell saddles but the shipping costs to you might be prohibitive. It also depends on the style of western saddle you are looking for. www.thedisciplinedride.com/store.html
Hi again. I have a question. I was wondering your option of a egg butt or d ring snaffle versus yours. I was taught that a free rolling ring would pinch the horse's mouth
Mr. Pat,I've been trying to find an organization or something that practices, teaches and shares the buckaroo traditions here in Oklahoma. Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance Cody
That’s a tough one. I’ve not heard of anybody from Oklahoma who practices this style of horsemanship. That’s not to say there aren’t good hands there. They just have a different tradition. I will say that good horsemanship is good horsemanship. If you find a person who you admire, there is much to learn no matter what their saddle looks like or if they have a fancy silver bit. You might also look for people who are traveling through doing clinics. Good luck!
I have a young horse that I’m training that has a block when I back him. He backs well but always fights the first two steps. Ive been working at this for 3 weeks do you have any tips??
It’s impossible to say without seeing what’s going on. Personally, I always assume that if a horse isn’t understanding what I want, it’s me. Are you releasing when he barely shifts his weight backwards? Once he understands that, are you releasing after he takes a single step backwards? Or are you getting greedy and wanting him to back up too many steps at once before he’s ready? I would start there and try to explain it better to your horse.
It’s impossible to say without seeing what’s going on. Personally, I always assume that if a horse isn’t understanding what I want, it’s me. Are you releasing when he barely shifts his weight backwards? Once he understands that, are you releasing after he takes a single step backwards? Or are you getting greedy and wanting him to back up too many steps at once before he’s ready? I would start there and try to explain it better to your horse.
After the colt is freed up in all three gaits outside, he starts working on the stop and back up. He never pulls with both hands in a hackamore. And he would never back a long way on a colt.
Thank you so much ! I rode in a halter tonight and it was good ....the backup is fine slow soft intentional . Thank You for giving me the confidence to ride in a halter the way I have done as a kid and never gave it a second thought ! I fell into the gimmick trap...just ride good and know your horse
I stumbled on this man's channel by chance. I normally hate watching horse training videos... However, this man's videos are the exception. Most ranch cowboys are just that, "cowboys".
This man is a ranch cowboy but he is also a true "horseman". Pay attention to how he's using his hands, seat and legs. This man knows what he's doing.
Thank you Pat for explaining "Why" you do things. Going into detail, as you do, in simple terms. You explain things very well, I appreciate ya!
It's one heck of a great feeling when you understand that your horse understands what you're trying to communicate to him !
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Thank you for putting these videos out there. Wise, kind, time tested & true horsemanship to benefit from. So nice to watch these. Really appreciated. Regards from Switzerland!
Thank you for not dilly dallying in the beginning of your videos! Lots of youtubers start their videos by repeating their title, explaining their life story leading to why they want to make the video, have a 10 second animated intro, and go on for about 2 minutes explaining what they're about to explain to you.
I would love to spend a weekend with you learning.
Great video. You can see ears of his horse telling him she is paying attention to him with every minor shift in his seat. You are so right sir that Collection is very important if you want to ride correctly and you are so right about having your horse weight on hind quarters for proper collection. Pat, Ive been studying Dressage for years and your teaching are so close to the riding principles of old dressage masters of 1800s which I find fascinating. Thank you for this extremely educational video. I think it’s great that you are passing on your great horsemanship knowledge to other students of horsemanship such as myself.
Wow..don't know if you will ever find this..but your comments are totally correct. However I was taught collection a very precise way alternated with stretching of the neck. We could teach this to any horse. Anyway Pat is a great master..and above all he is teaching the new people how to train the horse..thank you so much.
Another great video by Pat. Thank you.
I love your videos. Thank you. You're very kind. I learn from you so much better then other horsemen. You are a true teacher at heart
I enjoyed another great video. I like Mr. Pat's spin on doing things and I enjoy his quirky comments. I am glad he mentioned someone else will be in front of the camera too. Thank you for sharing your video and your ways with us.
John Morris
Western Kentucky
Age doesn't sequel training. Respect sir. I love this channel.
Solid gold.
Pat thank you putting these videos our here. I ride English but I prefer to ride the same as the way you ride your horses, our bodies. Love you showing the collection video, my best trainer collected all his horses, they are so easy to ride when they're on their rear end & off the bits. I know the idea but you explain step by step; what we do & what the horses do. This will help me so much with the thoroughbred I'm working with off the track. Love your videos!
It's refreshing to listen to someone that truly understands what collection really requires. So many focus on the wrong things, or think that they understand collection, however they struggle to demonstrate collection with their own horses. I would like to point out that some folks performance horses actually can turn correctly like you explain in this video, definitely want to dispell the negative stereotype given to performance horses. LOL some performance horses daywork too. Thank you for the videos, I appreciate, & look forward to each one, & sometimes watch them multiple times. Outstanding content.
Great explanation of legs when backing. I agree although hose will except either your at an advantage with legs off. Thanks Pat
im headed to the carnival. you are a hoot.
Love this video. good info about the ears and what it means when going backand forth.
" I dont know anybody whos that important that they cant take the time" .
Again, thank-you! Another greatest training video.
I love your videos, your honesty, and your authenticity. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
I enjoy your humor and your knowledge!
Always educational information. Thanks.
You answered many questions I have always had and no one could straight forward answer for me.
Finally yes yes yes, Pat you explain yourself incredibly well and I really enjoy you sharing valuable, sensible knowledge. Thank you message from down under Queensland on the Gold Coast
Great videos! Wish I would have found you a long time ago
Thanks for sharing
A great breakdown of what a person needs to think about when asking for timing and collection, with balance:) Must go ask my horse:)
Sometimes I learn something new watching Pat (which is incidentally also my pop's name), and sometimes I hear affirmations of what I already know, or what I've been told my all life and maybe wasn't always patient enough to do as much as I should have. I'm still fairly young, but I think I do alright as a mediocre hand, haha. This horse reminds me a lot of a big buckskin mare I've got that supposedly had months of training at a "World Championship Winner" trainer, but... holy hell. A few weeks ago, all she knew was to brace every which way, and stampede if you added any degree of speed. I put her in a bosal for a good stretch and started riding her outside, but she still occasionally gets flashbacks of wanting to handle like a cart horse. I only avoided putting her back in the snaffle because she acts like someone has taught her how to push against it for balance to get the perceived appearance of collection. It drives me crazy, but at least this mare is smart and really seems like she wants to be a nice horse. Patience.
Great advices Mr best wishes From Las Vegas nv thanks!!
I am A Horse Lover! Your Training Lesson is interesting and it has a Sense Of Humor. I like it Mr. COWBOY!
Loved the stop being a cross dresser comment. Thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge and experiences. Great demonstration on using your seat to stop and then to move forward.
Thanks from North Texas.
I sure enjoy and learned a lot from this video. I started my mare in the bosal. Didn't really go to a light leverage bit until about 2-3 years when I started tracking roping machine to train for dark side roping. I had her head down but never got the real collection you speak of. She's right handy and moves each end independently but goes with an extreme level head with face verticle. More often than not the few I've let ride her have asked if she was about to buck when they lope. She's 11yr old now. I really appreciate the part on lifting reins to bend her poll. My missing link, duh. It's all logic. You've got me excited to work with her and start another young horse. Side note: Why is the mare's eyes greased? Stage makeup or fly repellent? Thank you both again from Northeast Alabama's Appalachian foothills.
I think your videos are great. Wish I had you to help me with my horse and me.your great keep up the videos I'm watching.
Those nose bands are generally called a "flash" and yes, temporary and not buckled down tight. You rock, Pat.
Thank you for another great video Pat! Can you recommend a bridle? I ordered your snaffle bit and anxiously waiting for delivery!
Great video! For years I struggled with a gelding who never was really a pleasure to ride.. He had many of these same traits. While we learned to get along but he was never an honest horse. Even "horse trainers" had difficulty with him, and lost patients with him and went to hitting, spurring excessively, and jerking him around. I gave up on the trainer's, and just worked with him myself and really it was a case of who really trained who! Since then I have ridden alot of horses and learned alot. I really enjoy your video post! I'd love to visit one of your clinics.
Thank you 🙏
I love your traditional approach to horsemanship, could you do a video on how to work with a herd bound/ buddysour horse.
Yes, I would love to see his approach to that type.
Hi Pat! Great video, I've learnt so much. I'm a beginner to all this: I'd just like to know what you suggest I do when my horse refuses? Or becomes 'bored' of the training and repitions and tries to swerve out or push forward? He is one that constantly likes to challenge me and ask '"Well If I don't do it, what you gonna do about it??"
I enjoy your vids. My goal is that next branding season I will be proficient at back hand shots. Who makes your saddles?
Them Older Mares that been out to pasture can be hard to soften up sometimes, I got a 9 yo but she was ready to work as she was tired of being a broodmare lol.
Are you using the Missing Link Snaffle on this horse?
Why would this horse be OK in a half breed bit but not a spade? Can you make a video demonstrating the various types of bits?
Thank you for another great video. I have not seen this explained and/or demonstrated anywhere else.
With much respect from Cape Cod.
In a later vlog.he tells us it takes 4 or 5 years to transition to a spade bit.
If it is not too much to ask could you please make a video on getting into your correct leads? Thanks
I’ll put it on the list for the next time we’re riding on a flat spot.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thanks I greatly appreciate it!
Cowboy dressage mirror.. haha you're very funny as well as wise.
Good soild information and training techniques. If people that watch these videos apply what they see in these videos will have happier riders and relaxed, comfortable horses.
Thank you
PS... how many mama cows you running and whats your bull count
We have just enough cows to eat the grass and just enough bulls to cover the cows...Seriously though, we daywork for local ranchers. We don’t own cows. Asking that kind of question is the same as asking a person how much money he has in the bank.
@@PatnDebPuckett
Just thought you might of owned a small herd. The ranchers I know are extremely proud of numbers they run, be it 20 to 1000's. Your money in the bank comment don't fit the bill
It’s probably not thought of that way any more. It used to be considered impolite to talk numbers but I’m sure that has changed. Pat and I are dinosaurs on many things.
@@PatnDebPuckett
Well you're dinosaurs of vast knowledge and I truly honor your work. I'm glad some how I stumbled into your channel last year. I'm almost through with watching all your posts. Look forward to future words of wisdom from you and your husband Pat. I love his honest and funny asides on the current state o nose rooting and spinning...so true
Hello again! I just got my horse rope broke and I’m gonna start practicing sliding rope on a log. My saddle doesn’t have a horn wrap on it yet and I was wondering what you would recommend. I’m guessing mule hide but I’m not sure.
You are correct. Mule hide is what we recommend. Make sure you soak the mule hide for about 30 minutes before you put it on your saddle. Hand wring it out and put it on wet. Wrap the mule hide around the horn so that it tightens up when you slide rope rather than loosening which is clockwise if you’re right handed.
Deb Puckett thanks!
This as pat says is riding not just getting by until the the ground hits your head wondering why
Yes I have tried that other one in the past lol
Hello, could you advise, where I can buy a nice western saddle with a reasonable price? phone or better website? thanks
We sell saddles but the shipping costs to you might be prohibitive. It also depends on the style of western saddle you are looking for.
www.thedisciplinedride.com/store.html
Deb , do you make those horses so pretty ?
What's the stuff on her eyes?
where shoul I go to get one of those snaffle bits? is there a web sight ?
You can buy the Missing Link Snaffle on our website: www.thedisciplinedride.com/store
Hi again. I have a question. I was wondering your option of a egg butt or d ring snaffle versus yours. I was taught that a free rolling ring would pinch the horse's mouth
Mr. Pat,I've been trying to find an organization or something that practices, teaches and shares the buckaroo traditions here in Oklahoma.
Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Cody
That’s a tough one. I’ve not heard of anybody from Oklahoma who practices this style of horsemanship. That’s not to say there aren’t good hands there. They just have a different tradition. I will say that good horsemanship is good horsemanship. If you find a person who you admire, there is much to learn no matter what their saddle looks like or if they have a fancy silver bit. You might also look for people who are traveling through doing clinics. Good luck!
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you very much. I appreciate your reply and the videos you all do.
Hi Cody, I’m in OKC. where are you?
@@lindatruitt7858 agra oklahoma north of chandler about 12 miles.
I have a young horse that I’m training that has a block when I back him. He backs well but always fights the first two steps. Ive been working at this for 3 weeks do you have any tips??
It’s impossible to say without seeing what’s going on. Personally, I always assume that if a horse isn’t understanding what I want, it’s me. Are you releasing when he barely shifts his weight backwards? Once he understands that, are you releasing after he takes a single step backwards? Or are you getting greedy and wanting him to back up too many steps at once before he’s ready? I would start there and try to explain it better to your horse.
It’s impossible to say without seeing what’s going on. Personally, I always assume that if a horse isn’t understanding what I want, it’s me. Are you releasing when he barely shifts his weight backwards? Once he understands that, are you releasing after he takes a single step backwards? Or are you getting greedy and wanting him to back up too many steps at once before he’s ready? I would start there and try to explain it better to your horse.
Thank you!!
My big Colt is 2.5
Been ridden 3 months are you suggesting on wait and don't worry about the back up yet ...
Ridding in a bosal hack
After the colt is freed up in all three gaits outside, he starts working on the stop and back up. He never pulls with both hands in a hackamore. And he would never back a long way on a colt.
Thank you so much !
I rode in a halter tonight and it was good ....the backup is fine slow soft intentional . Thank You for giving me the confidence to ride in a halter the way I have done as a kid and never gave it a second thought !
I fell into the gimmick trap...just ride good and know your horse
BTW been doing the math on my rope and building and throwing lots of loops ...only 10, 000
More to go
Where are you guys from? Hard to find good horsemanship here in SoCal lol
Lake Isabella.
Excuse me sir, how old is that horse?
Slap them and they start crying.......hahaha....
Long chain in the mouth that was funny