Is the gray wolf actually endangered?
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2019
- When are we done protecting the gray wolf?
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When European settlers first came to America they were set on “civilizing” the land. This meant a lot of rash, sweeping changes - one of which was to eradicate a familiar target: the gray wolf. Bounties were placed on the animal across the US. By the 1930s, the once plentiful wolf population was decimated.
Decades later, restorations efforts have led to an extensive recovery of the animal. The Fish and Wildlife Service thinks we’ve done enough, but conservationists say our work is far from done. Check out the video above to learn more.
You can read the Vox article on this topic here:
www.vox.com/2019/7/13/2069072...
You can find the Fish and Wildlife Service’s proposal to delist the gray wolf here:
www.federalregister.gov/docum...
And the response letter from scientists and scholars can be found here:
www.biologicaldiversity.org/c...
Studies on what removing protections can mean:
conbio.onlinelibrary.wiley.co...
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...
For more information on wolves we didn’t have time to get to in the video, check out the links below:
More on the reintroduction of Wolves into Yellowstone: www.yellowstonepark.com/park/...
How wolves change the ecosystem: www.yellowstonepark.com/thing...
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You may have noticed at 4:41 we left out the gray wolves in the southwestern United States. This is because that population is part of a subspecies known as the Mexican Gray Wolf. The latest proposal from the Fish and Wildlife Service wouldn’t affect the endangered status of these animals, though conservationists argue we should be doing more: www.knau.org/post/scientists-conservationists-call-sweeping-changes-mexican-gray-wolf-recovery-plan
You can learn more about their recovery here: www.fws.gov/southwest/es/mexicanwolf/
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Vox Grey Wolf
I did notice that! But I also had a question: what about biodiversity? I feel like this law should also protect species that need more range on top of getting back their numbers in variations of their own species!
I mean, I think of the cheetahs or the giraffes that have significantly lost their numbers in variance even though there are efforts to help bring them back.
My point is that job isn’t really done, and I think most species should be protected long after their recovery and also that the law should have a little more backbone in keeping that up instead of removing species from their list.
I think IUCN is ahead of US. Gray Wolf there is classified of least concern.
@@incognito8023 خیلی شبکه خوبی است .vere vere good
Thanks for your efforts to educate our community about the history and importence
Most ecosystems are failing because of the total or partial loss of keystone species like the wolf. Here in Europe deer and boar are hunted extensively because they don't have natural predators, this also has an impact on plant species and the health of forest- not to mention massive urbanization and rural engineering of the land.
@Jane Doe there is another sub-species of Gray Wolf in Europe called Eurasian Wolf. But it lives in the Central, Eastern, Balkan and little bit on Northern Europe. Not sure if any are lest in the West.
The reintroduction of natural predators is actually a difficult question in most of Europe as historically wolves have been gone since the late 1700s mostly due to disappearance of prey due to habitat shrinking. The current day wildlife population and habitat sizes are often not sufficient for packs of wolves to survive.
I wouldn't say failing. I would say changing.
The lack of wolves is not the reason for the current overpopulation of wild boar in Europe
@Jane Doe Germany still has wolves and theyve returned to the NL also!
Apart from the endangered species list in the U.S., another - global - problem with listing endangered species is called the "rarity value thesis": Basically it's the paradox that species listed as endangered (especially on the IUCN Red List) is driving up their value on the illegal wildlife trade market. Hence, this leads into a downward spiral due to enhanced demand. We're currently working on this topic, so more info is coming up soon on our channel!
The more you restrict it the more its demand rises
I think what drives endangerment for most species is habitat loss so I reckon this seems quite negligible when that's the biggest factor but yeah when it's comes to Tigers, Rhinos and elephants for instance, I can imagine this can impact their populations.
Why would that fall out of supply demand equilibrium though? Why would it matter if demand rises due to restricted supply if successfully reducing supply is the whole point?
Demand shouldn’t change... supply would change and the price would rise
@@SamN234 which would then lower the price back to what it was if they successfully did.... the math on this idea really doesn't check out.
I feel like this video is lacking in depth, we could have done with more information as to what this means for the species and more arguments for and against explained
Yeah, this should have been at least 15 minutes!
Hopefully CNBC can step in, some of their mini documentaries are absolutely fantastic (like the Military foam/PFAS pollution one).
Vox is left wing.. so emotional, 1 sided, etc
Vox likes to pretend to give both sides of a story but it's always pretty obvious which side of an issue they agree with.
@@ShinyRedGrapple if left-wing is for keeping the wolves not delisted, then Vox is presenting kore arguments for delisting than against here.
The video is not specifically about whether we should delist the gray wolf or not. It's about why delisting animals is such a difficult thing to do with the way that the law is currently listed. The wolves were used as an example of this.
Whats making people so eager to remove the protection?
because protection requires money?
Maybe it's starting to cause issues with small towns, or death of lifestock. That generally tends to be the issue.
Because they are back to a level that is still manageable, without destroying the ecosystem of cattle raising and other human activities in significiant portions of the USA.
Thaqif Khirudin I don’t see why taking one species off the list would make that much of a difference financially to fight for. I figured people just wanted to shoot them
Because money over actually protecting wolves.
Why are Canadian geeze still protected? THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!
This. Take them off
No kidding. I think we have more Canadian Geese in Indiana than they have in all of Canada.
Canada* Goose
Canada Geese are not protected by the endangered species act, they are protected by the Migratory bird act with stipulations by the Secretary of the Interior for hunting seasons.
And so is there poop.....
Apex predators have long kept ecosystems in check.
They are known as keystone species. Yellowstone National Park has a resurgence in wolves which benefited local flora and had noticeable impact on streams.
Very shallow. I'd recommend the videos on Yellowstone trophic cascades, and study up on genetic biodiversity, to see why nature itself would benefit from many pockets of thriving biospheres. And we need nature, dearly.
Yes, minus Yellowstone. That story about "wolves brought back the willow" was debunked, particularly if this is referencing the viral video itself
@@TeTaongaKorora sustainable biodiversity requires separate pockets of varied genetic populations that have occasional contact, from what I have been taught
The idea that a small population can be hunted and trapped to sustain a constant number is just not biologically sound
@@MichaelBehrnsMiller Yes you are correct on that- I'm specifically saying the Yellowstone trophic cascades from the wolves were debunked. People drew links between events that did not have solid evidence linking them and a viral video popularised this idea without evidence
@@TeTaongaKorora Debunked might be a bit strong. Yes, it's considerably more complicated and a short viral video certainly leans the wrong way. But to say debunked would suggest that there is no trophic cascade on that landscape anywhere and there is no landscape of fear. I'd say that's also a stretch.
And this doesn't even cover whether, due to climate change, the range is significantly altered for habitability. This applies less to the gray wolf, in particular, but in general, it a fascinating and complicated problem.
More wolves in the last 50 years than in the previous, not even just more but just look at the territory size from smallest to now, if you ask me thats hella progress that no other animal can achieve besides maybe jack rabbit, have you thought that maybe some of these maps are ill proportioned and poorly made? If not then how can you justify the random spike of Gray wolf population in New Mexico? If you can't then maybe side with the fact that they've always been there and science just did a poor job of tracking them.
Wolf's dont really need to live in a specific temperature, just as long as its not really hot
@@petdadawg2339 Yup that's true. Their adaptability makes them the number 1 predator on earth. Being able to hunt anything, anywhere, no matter their size.
And nah they can hunt in hot places. There are middle Eastern wolves that live in the desert. They are truly incredible. No wonder why humans couldn't stop them until guns were invented
Well, the map shown at 2:38 is rather incomplete. There's a significant gray (specifically the Eurasian subspecies) wolf population in most of Poland, huge chunks of Germany, most of Italy, almost all of the Balkan Peninsula, the Scandinavian range is much bigger as well... I think the gray wolf range in Europe has never been as limited as shown in this map.
Yea there plenty of wolves in the Balkans in Southern Europe
@@ParakeetWorld There were always wolves in the Balkans; they never left
@@darioexplario plus she has to fill in all of north Africa stretching to the east and west because golden jackals are now classed as a sub species of grey wolf...
And also parts of Arabia
@@samo6083 Evidence?
There’s also a major problem with the Endangered species act that gives priority to large, well known species. The current administration is trying to rank species based on economic importance.
Economic value can't dictate ecological stability(though rodents and other small critters have nearly no economic value the are an important part to the food chain and the population balance)!! (Though I do agree the current endangered laws a bit broken and should be changed to current range)
I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The gray wolf is definitely not endangered in my area. Loads of them.
Over here on the other side of the Atlantic, in western Europe, wolves are doing surprisingly well! Wolves are protected for a while and have even reached the Netherlands from Germany.
Gray Wolves are isolated to mountainous parts of Spain and France and there are about three thousand of them, less than need for genetic viability in the long term. There are more wolves in Minnesota than either Spain or France.
We should never be finished protecting wildlife. Ever
The video lacks a lot of depth, the reasons in the for and against its delisting lacks the full picture. It’s not but environmentalists see it as historic range, it is also that a loss of a species particularly a predator can have great impacts on an ecosystem. Same for literally any species in the food chain. It’s disappointing that Vox which is often very informative on both sides lacked this insight. I am sure there are explanations why some thought it should be delisted. Next time if you are just focusing on one species please inform more, or just keep to the big picture.
it covers this everything you said. No it isn't an in-depth video, but they didn't argue for or against delisting unfairly. There are SO many more arguments that could have been used for both sides, but they kept it short without giving an unfair advantage to one argument.
Some species are so conservation dependent, due to low genetic diversity that Cloning through SCNT (somatic cell nuclear transfer) is required. For the Black-footed ferrets however, they are even considering one step further. They are so susceptible to introduced diseases, they might have to create transgenic variations of them - or they would be conservation dependent, forever!
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That's what happened to the Florida panther, had to be cross-bred to survive at all. Made me so sad to watch them go, one by one.
John Vucetich seems like a particularly chill dude.
Its because he lives in the U.P. 😉
@@thedreadedgroomer Guess I better move there.
Only if you want 8 months of winter. Michigan tech gets more snow than anchorage Alaska collage
Wolves are valuable, they help decrease the deer and buffalo (if they are successful with buffalo’s) population. Not only that but wolves aren’t as dangerous as many books, TV shows, movies, even people depicted as. They aren’t curious animals and they will not just down right attack you without a reason. Lastly, they are less likely to attack livestock if food is available. That’s why we need to increase wolves range instead of those small pocketed size areas.
Only in very specific places most of America has changed too much. Also it does not matter how many deer or elk are somewhere, the reason most livestock attacks happen is cause young wolves are hungry and have trouble hunting wild animals so they go for easier targets.
I want the gray wolves back in Illinois
Interviewed the best subject matter expert available on gray wolves. Well done.
There's no counterargument at all? No other species to compare with gray wolves? Then change the video title to be about gray wolves, not the entire endangered species act.
It’s literally a four minute video...did you expect that much in four minutes?
There are lots of other sources out there if you’d like to learn more about the issue
It's called a case study
Losing the top predator in any ecosystem can have dramatic negative effects on the entire system. Its is definitely fair to say that these grey wolfs need to be restored to at least a significant proportion of their historic inhabited lands.
100%! Sad how so many people don't get this.
@wimmisky wolves are needed to control elk and deer populations (and probably other animals too, but I don't know much about it). Their historic range shows that they were filling a required niche in those areas, or else they wouldn't be there.
@wimmisky Actually that's not really true, wolves radically altered the ecosystem of Yellowstone National Park when they were reintroduced.
wimmisky introducing wolves back to Yellowstone has drastically helped the ecosystem there. Much less erosion and more trees growing
@wimmisky the elk and deer were causing huge issues in the park, with no predators their populations kept expanding and it was causing multiple problems. The reintroduction of wolves was necessary, they're there to keep the deer in check. They serve a key purpose in the ecosystem, however hard they can be to deal with for farmers.
Yo I aint tryna live in a world one day where humans are the only one standing
Choosing between wolves and ranchers, I would rather have wolves.
Limey Lassen better to have the native Americans back no?
@@DarkenedSilhouette they're gone. Most natives are just white people saying they're native because they're 5%. And people who are the most native think they're white or another ethnicity
So you choose to starve to death ? 😂
some species are not as importent in the ecosphere as you thought
@@konigstiger3252 Lol mate what's the logic link between not having ranchers and starving to death? You on an all beef diet or something?
Regardless of a species global population, I think every nation is responsible for maintaining and protecting every species inside their borders.
Another great video, Vox!
Vox, i know you like to hit a nerve, I dare you to speak about culling elephants to save them.
I bet that would start an uproar, but would also pull back the veil on how conservation actually works.
What
It hurts seeing no wolves no longer in the wild in Colorado :( it’s a shame, so much free land in the Rockies for them to live in and to many elk and deer that could be better controlled if there were wolves. I hope one day we can get wolves to thrive in Colorado once more. I say this because I’m a native and seeing the mountains so empty of wolves but so much wolf merchandise being sold threw out the Rockies is sad, thankfully there is many wolf sanctuarys at least so it ain’t completely empty
You will
You have
The Grey Wolf will never have that original range back, you have to remember alot of the Midwest used to be forest but now it's all farm fields and small woodlands which is not wolf habitat. Also animals can still be protected but not on the endangered species list, the grey wolf is clearly not endangered anymore but it still needs some protection which can be managed by the local state conservation agencies.
Wolves need to be protected more and anyone caught killing one should suffer harsh punishment. I was taught to respect nature and treat it like a part of myself. Because in the end we are all connected. A part of one large ecosystem.
Awww, must protec Forrest doggos
yes, what do propose?
Was that sarcasm?
As I have recently been excepted for volunteer work at San Diego’s California Wolf Center; I find that the main frontier for Wolf recovery and possibly endangered species recovery overall, is not just an analysis of historic ecosystems, yet potentially innovating, and we humans adapting with restoring parts of the historic ecosystems and building wildlife corridors on top of livestock protection techniques with guardian pets and livestock. Guardian dog breeds, Texas Longhorns, donkeys, and llamas are all potential guardian pets for livestock as I have found; and wildlife corridors is the other frontier needed for ecological restoration where possible and needed.
That I find, is the new frontier for endangered species, and ecological restoration and adaptation moving forward as I begin the work myself.
And let’s not forget that wolves are historically one of the main predators of pesky raccoons that know how to hide and live in human neighborhoods, and often shy away from us humans unless they are tempted by food.
I look forward to becoming a part of solving these puzzles.
I'am gonna start a livestock farm in Germany and in some parts of the country there are already wolf's again but i welcome them. So what then i have to build a little bit different high tensile perimeter fence or get some livestock guardianship dogs. The ecosystem services that the wolfs bring as a Keystone species and a predator are definitely worth a litttle bit more work
That is a good foresight on the endangered species law, not allowing the who ever is in government at the time to decide which one should and shouldn't be protected but any that needs it.
Wolfs in montana were introduced 1988 robb creek, dad and I saw two, while going elk hunting. Following weekend with my anterless elk in truck, fwp biologist friend of mine stopped I told him of the wolfs he told us they cost millions of dollars to reintroduction program, by 1998 elk moved out to lower ranch lands causing problems.
But… Montana has had some of its best hunting seasons for elk over the past decade, Idaho who has the the largest wolf population had their highest elk harvest EVER in 2015 followed by 2020. And elk populations in MN have been on the rise since 2013. So not sure what problems are going on due to lack of elk. It would be awesome if you could give me an example.
A question to ponder: How many or few wolves would we prefer there to be if we ourselves were to be born as a randomly picked wild animal?
How do you make maps like that? That's so beautiful!
They probably create their assets in Photoshop or Illustrator and then animate them in After Effects.
Never Cry Wolf by Farley Mowat is a great book to read on Grey wolves. My all time favorite book. It’s hilarious and very informative.
Yo, in India we have enacted Wildlife Prevention Act, 1972 effectively banning poaching and illegal hunting barring some exceptions. Its not all good here but has certainly helped reduce the illegal trade in wildlife specimens and stabilize population of keystone species thereby reviving the whole ecosystem.
Passenger pigeon, heath hen, California Grizzly bear... and the list goes on and on...
In New York, there’s a type of frog that’s endangered to New York, but thrives in New Jersey. While it’s technically endangered due to a small population in NYS to NY, but the frog actually isn’t in danger of extinction
Why not take its previous territory and then minus the current unsuitable areas within that previous territory. Unsuitable areas may include populated areas or areas that have been too drastically effected by whatever to now support animal life
The gray wolf population is actually slightly more expanded in Washington then is shown on the map! There are several packs in the north and central cascades!
This John guy is more shy than me in front of the camera
I think people are missing the point of this video, which is in the title bdw. It wasn’t about grey wolves, they were only used as an example ...
I think this video leaves out a lot of the information on the other side of the argument. Grey wolves do serve a purpose in an ecosystem, and ecologists have been so happy with the work that has been done to reintroduce them to the sections of their habitat that they currently inhabit. They play vital roles in the ecosystems of america and this video treats them as just a nuisance.
Why is she crouching over to talk into a camera outside
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... She got your attention, right? Maybe that's all the reason she needed.
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This channel tries new things sometimes. I’m not so sure it worked out that well here.
Current range would make no sense, historical range is impractical.
Let Congress legislate an official designated target range for each species based on consultation with experts. Once it occupies that range, de-list.
As far as historical range is concerned we humans are doing a rather good job of doing the wolfs job. I live in rural Ohio and the average amount of deer killed per person is approx 2 so I feel like some places in the historical map don't need wolves for the ecosystems benefit anymore.
so much logic! good thinking.
Parents: I don’t know, ISSSS ITTTT?
I was so confused when I saw the first minute of the video, I live in northern Minnesota and hit one on the road last month. But I’m shocked now that I know I’m one of the lucky ones.
It would make for a longer video but it would've been useful if a few arguments for and against the delisting on the grey wolf were given (and who is making those arguments).
Honestly love how that guy talks
Correct your map! There are gray wolfs in Balkans.
And baltics, and carpathian mountains.
There are also wolves in Spain and Germany.
@@lukaspieper633 There are Indeed a large number of wolves in Spain, but only in the north, specifically north west. It did sort of show this. However the number of wolves in germany is quite small. If comparing the groupings of thousands of wolves in the baltics (if including Belarus) and thousands of wolves in the balkans if including also Bulgaria and Greece.
And also in France belgium spain Germany switzerland and many other european country
@@artisl607 There are about 1000 wolves in Macedonia my country wich is a large number for a small country of 25 000km2. Compared to Bulgaria and Greece wich have together 2000 wolves...
Scenario...
Once wage was 100$ then some bad guys came and made it 10$ after that some good guys came and said wages should increase 10$ every month .... Now after 3 month some are saying it's 40$ .!!!!!
The wolf population in the Northern Rockies inhabits the same home range as large Elk herds. Without Elk you have no wolves.
Honestly
They already said 3 states have managed their own populations. Fact is as someone from a state the Gray Wolf has no range in it is hard for me to argue for increasing it into its historical range. Unless the gray wolf population extends rapidly then these states will have to deal with high percentage populations first. I can see why they are frustrated with the existing population. Hunters, ranchers, even pet owners are impacted when an apex pack predator moves into a region.
The thought that the “rights” of hunters, ranchers and pet owners should trump the wolves’ right to live is laughable.
That wolf range map of the world is extremely wrong in europe. There are a lot more areas with large grey wolf population, amongst those the Baltic wolf packs(along with Belarus), and the balkan wolf packs(along with Bulgaria) and the carpathian mountain wolf packs. I mean that map is sooo wrong in that part of the world.
Can you guys please make a video on why most of the informative UA-cam videos use Blue or Yellow as the background colour to their text?
Grey wolves are a keystone species, their decline certainly came at the cost of biodiversity. Imagine the health of forests if they were reintroduced in as many areas as possible.
Humans: Killed wolves to protect livestock
Humans: Puts them on endangered list
Humans: Wants to delist them
Wolves: *YOU HAVE BECOME THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO DESTROY*
They became wolves?
@@mouseprotector5081 when you look at the furry community... Yeah... 😂
When I was young I had a wolf faze where I constantly borrowed wolf books from the library
15% is not good enough for me personally. I’d say at least 35-45% of range
Minnesota has ALWAYS had wolves.
Lol, in Belgium people already cry when there's one wolf 😛
I'd like a video on the Mexican Grey Wolves too. Didn't know wolves where that south before.
i love these types of videos
Here in WA state we have big packs of wolves I just dont want to run into them when Im hiking!😂
Manatees as well are still at risk but where taken off the list lately do to political flubbery
Your maps showing current range are inadequate. Wolves are in the cascades, for example, both sides.
An animal can be both a Protected Species and not be threatened or endangered. Think seagulls, red-tailed hawks and bald eagles.
Seagulls are protected? I didn't expect that
Wait why are seagulls protected? We have so many of them here in Chicago.
@@Domnom22 I confess to having no idea. However, I saw a guy get fined $500 for shooting one during duck season. That's when I heard about their protected status. After that, we called seagulls "$500 ducks."
This is a relevant topic on Washington state, where our grey wolf population is rapidly exceeding recovery expectations. I tend to be more so on the side of conservationist in this argument, however I disagree with current management plans for grey wolf introduction. I'll explain why using the state of Washington as my point of reference, however this argument is pretty much applicable to any state facing grey wolf reintroduction.
I'll start by saying that many of the livestock losses that occur in our state occur when ranchers lease national forest land for their cattle to graze, for roughly $1.30 per head, per year (four-month grazing season usually begins in late May). While some employ ranch hards to monitor their herd during this period, many leave their cattle unattended for months at a time. In these instances, I feel that the rancher assumes the risks associated with that choice - considering you're introducing your cattle to the ecosystem, where illness or mechanical injury is not outside of the realm of possibility.
But here's where I am conflicted with that idea. The state (state being federal government) sanctioned and subsidized the extinction of the grey wolf in the early twentieth century, in order to protect the livestock industry during a time where livestock was a major source of food security for a largely impoverished nation. The state basically endorsed and made it the standard practice to graze cattle on public lands in the United States. Now when you fast forward to today, the beef industry in particular is waning considerably. Beef is not the staple of the American diet anymore, however, you've got dozens of ranchers in Washington who employ the farmhands and supply the processing plants that stimulate our rural economies - which is a good thing regardless of your views on consumption of animal products. From the ranchers perspective, the state sanctioned extinction of grey wolfs was done deliberately to protect their livestock. Now that the beef industry in dying, asking ranchers to either deal with the losses or to adopt a completely new business model is essentially a death blow to many in the industry. It's no wonder why there are a lot of people upset over this issue. I think that there would be less controversy over grey wolf's reintroduction if ranchers were in turn provided stimulus to make the improvements to their own ranges, that are necessary to combat predation, such as six-foot fencing along their property lines or covering the wages of additional range riders. That way our public lands can truly by spaces reserved for the conservation of our ecosystems while protecting private interests.
In conclusion, I favor the conservationist perspective because I feel the fault lies more on the oversight of this issue than it does on the presence of grey wolves in Washington state. There's no doubt that the benefits that accompany a strong population of a keystone species in the grey wolf are worth the money it will cost to take manage their population adequately. However, I can't give Washington's current management plan my endorsement until livestock industries are appropriately compensated for the strife this causes them. At the end of the day, I think most adamant conservationist would agree that the livelihood of others is an important as the conservation of endangered species - and that the two ideas are not mutually exclusive in nature.
Let the wolves and other animals thrive again all across both america and other parts of the world.
Y'all couldn't get homegirl like a tripod or a higher branch to perch her camera on?
Look at a historic vs current map of Black Bears. They are listed as Least Concern just as the Gray Wolf, with no Federal protections.
I can't believe they actually changed the title. Up until yesterday this was called, "The problem with the endangered species list," and now it's, "is the gray wolf actually endangered?" Lol
I believe it, "The problem with the endangered species list" doesn't make any sense here.
This new kind of grey wolf is a different species than the one we had hear
nope, not true
Please do more videos like this! Specially about species like the wolf, why they are so "hated" through out our history and show that actually they are pretty important in Ecosystems. It's interesting and it can provide more awareness about how to deal and protect this kind of species. :)
O man and I always thought the USA was a little ahead of Germany concerning living with nature. 😕 interesting to see that "the wolf quest" especially isnt solved at all there either.
The Quality of this videos in incredible
We're done when we're happy to discuss culling humans
We heard one night before last (memorial day) . All the dogs and everything was quiet. Howl was not coyote. Live near David Crockett State Park. I think it's probably not a pet. So being in TN. Where game warden s play quite mouse about what might be out there. Such as our cougars, so we probably heard a grey Wolf 🐺. We hope.
Your point about wolves not being able to disperse is wrong. Wolves have been dispersing quite well into Oregon and Washington and are now even in Northern California. Most of these migrants likely came from Idaho. The bigger problem is new states refusing to protect wolves once they disperse into those areas, i.e. Colorado and Utah. Wolves are quite good dispersers and as long as they have adequate new habitat to settle, they’ll be able to expand. Most of Montana’s population wasn’t even from reintroduction, they dispersed from Canada. Also the historic range is exaggerated in the East; New England and New York were likely occupied by the red wolf or it was a hybrid zone between the two species.
Plenty if not to many wolves here in minnesota
Vox needs to do one on State capture in South Africa.
Lol
lol it'd be so cool if i had to worry about wolves in my local heavily forested region. Terrifying, but thrilling lol.
They should take some of the wolves and release them in Texas where the invasive boars can be eaten as a natural prey item
Bruh i forgot that we are able to clone now so, technically it would be impossible to wipe endangered species now
Cougars. A growing threat they are not telling you.
Cougars are native to America, though. They aren't a threat to the ecosystem in any way.
Wolves have already been dispatched in WA.
Wow I didn’t know Americans didn’t have grey wolves everywhere... it just seems so natural for it to be that way up here
her name is Kimberly Mas
Why is this even a national government decision and not UN enforced?
Because The United States would pull out of the UN if they meddled in U.S internal affairs. I'm not saying it's right.
@@pianofry1138 nature should not be considered an internal affair, that's the thing.
How come I never knew
Wolves moved to Canada for the healthcare and foxy coyotes.
Here in Canada if you drive 20 minutes outside of a town you see wolves, well at least in Ontario
I have an idea. What do you think of taking some federal lands in the Southwest and designating as a wildlife sanctuary. That way there is a large area for Mexican Gray Wolves to be protected and live in a natural environment without human contact. So no ranching in those areas. Then we can unprotect them on all other lands so ranchers can protect there livestock. Maybe give them multiple locations. I agree with protecting ecosystems but I also want some land to be used in production. With my idea I believe we can protect ecosystems all across the western us, and still allow use of the majority of the land for agricultural and livestock needs. Thanks
Here in Idaho we have seen our elk and deer numbers collapse over the last 10-15 years. Yet to see the good it's going to do on the environment. With wolf numbers so high and elk populations barely staying afloat, passionate conservationists are forced to trap wolves in these winter ranges of the elk. Even lion populations are suffering from the high number of wolves
Thats not at all what is happening. Where are you getting this from?
Lemme get this straight, you folks argue for more hunting permits for deer (including elk) AND wolves because wolves are eating the deer you folks are also hunting?
In Idaho alone, there was a RECORD elk harvest in 2015 followed only by the harvest 2020. I believe the numbers were around 25,000 followed by 22,000, the highest in the state's history. Keep that in mind, because the wolf populations in the state exceeded that of the management plan in 2009. So this argument doesn't hold water. Furthermore, if you were to lay out a map of elk density and wolf packs within the state, some of the largest elk herds exist within the same regions as the highest wolf populations. There is no information about this so called "collapse". That is not to say that some herds haven't been diminished greatly due to factors such as predator and human take. Especially in regions with commercial outfitting.
@@Reed411 The overlap in places with many wolves and places with many elk? They’re all very wild places ofc
Tell Robb Stark, Lannisters send their Regards
Look at the wonderful gains in the Yellowstone area after the gray wolf was allowed to reestablish there!
why she crouching down lol