Change the Blend Mode of the filter layer to Luminosity to get the same result. In the blending options you can also adjust the curve to only sharpen a tonal range, i.e highlights. Working with the sRGB profile for photo editing or retouching is not a good choice anyway and converting between color modes may result in loss/shift of colour data, esp. if you go back from Lab to RGB or CMYK (print). Using a high gamut ICC profile like "Adobe RGB" or "ColourMatch RGB" *while* editing will help to prevent that. To check if any colours might get lost add a "Soft Proof" adjustment layer at the top, pick the sRGB profile (or CMYK if you go to print) and enable "Gamut Check".
hi Chris, have had to come back to this video, refresh my brain! this time I'll write it down. Looking forward to more of your videos' on Affinity, slightly different in Photoshop.
Thank you for your videos, you explain things so well. Would you be able to do one with the use of multiple brushes to figure out when and which to use. Thanks !
Chris P Williams hi, thanks for replying and sure let me try. I’m very new at all this and would like to know more about painting with brushes. Learning what each brush does and what to use them for. I see lots of pictures of water that look like some brush work was added to the water but not sure which brush and how. Also retouching Hair from a picture taken in an online game from an avatar. I hope that’s clearer, I’m sorry if it isn’t. If you need more clarification please ask. Thanks again.
Hi. I'm new to Affinity Photo. This tutorial was just what I was looking for in terms of learning about sharpening. I'm following the tutorial but you fail to mention how the changes are saved out! I have my background and I have my altered layer. Do I now select export and it will export the background and the layers all as one new image? Great tutorial though *thumbs up*
thanks chris. on the topic of lab color space, i understand that there is a way to retain lab color in an rgb document. would you explain the process? possibly a video?
I realise this is an old video now but I tried this on a photo recently using the latest version of Affinity Photo and I can't find the colour format option on the document drop down menu. Any help please? I would like to try this method if possible.
OK, so if I do all this work in LAB and then convert to JPG to post online or to make a print from, will that be impossible? Or will the image look bad after converting? I'm confused as to whether it's worth doing this if after converting to JPG or TIFF to make a print the result will be a poor image. . .Is that the case? I'm really disappointed right now because I loved this tutorial and technique, but I'm getting the idea that it may not really be of any benefit to me. . .Can you clarify this for me? Thanks, and I really enjoyed this tutorial. . .
BluesImprov hi there, it’s a question of headroom. Similar To when you shoot in RAW, when you process a RAW image you have so much more data to use. This results in a less ‘damaged’ jpeg or TIFF when you convert it back. Every edit you bake to a jpeg will degrade that image. Using LAB reduces that damage whilst editing. Therefore, when you convert back you have a better quality jpeg with less editing artefacts. Hope this helps .
Hi Chris. You mentioned that, while in LAB color, you were going to be sharpening on the Lightness layer (channel). It looked like you didn’t select anything special to do that. Can you explain how you are only affecting that one channel if you are not making a selection from it. Thank you.
Steven Dempsey hi you only select the lightness layer then any filters are applied globally. Not sure if this answers your question. If not please let me know the time point in the tutorial where you have the problem and I’ll try to help
I see what you mean, that's mistake on my part. I meant to say we are going to be using all the layers to make the adjustment. I will remedy and repost. cheers for pointing that out.
Chris - came back to this great video after a while but can no longer see the option to convert to lab space in the document drop down menu. Suggestions?
As I said a year ago, this is great. Please forgive an ignorant belated question: why go back to the original color space when doing the mask sharpening?
Bill Fried thank you, it’s because lab uses more data than a jpeg or tiff can handle. The file sizes involved would be massive. However the extra headroom is only important during the edit. As it allows you to work with colours that do not exist in the non lab colour space. This allows you to exploit all the data available in the Srgb colour space. There is no real benefit to saving the lab colour version as your pc monitor or printer could never represent that wide a colour gamut.Hope that helps
@@chrispwilliams6297 Try it I will. I'm so new to this and the whole businesses is over whelming but I appreciate everything you and others like you do. I'd never get started otherwise
Hi Chris, thanks for this tutorial. I have done in your way and it looks great on screen. But after exporting to jpg i got so much artifacts that the picure is not useable :-(
I am using the latest version of Affinity Photo 1.8.3.641 and under the Documents tab there is no 'Colour format' so I cannot get to 'LAB colour space'. Why is this??
Hi this changed recently, you now : Click Document click convert format Then click the format drop down menu and select LAB from there. Hope this helps
HisLittleOne hi there you do it the same way except to switch to lab colour you need to click the page icon top left of your screen. It’s the one with the corner l and 3 dots. Then select lab colour from the drop down
I'm not finding Color Space LAB.... I believe it was in an earlier version, but it shure seems to have disappeared in the latest version... Windows version here.
@@chrispwilliams6297 How does it manage to do this when sharpening is nothing more than adding contrast to edges? Wouldn't haloing still occur even in LAB mode?
Really useful video Chris, as said, it's changed my approach to using AF.. big thanks.
Change the Blend Mode of the filter layer to Luminosity to get the same result.
In the blending options you can also adjust the curve to only sharpen a tonal range, i.e highlights.
Working with the sRGB profile for photo editing or retouching is not a good choice anyway and converting between color modes may result in loss/shift of colour data, esp. if you go back from Lab to RGB or CMYK (print).
Using a high gamut ICC profile like "Adobe RGB" or "ColourMatch RGB" *while* editing will help to prevent that.
To check if any colours might get lost add a "Soft Proof" adjustment layer at the top, pick the sRGB profile (or CMYK if you go to print) and enable "Gamut Check".
Brilliant. You’ve changed my sharpening workflow forever. I feel embarrassed not knowing this technique years ago.👏
Thanks so much ! And love the Welsh accent, so gentle to listen to..
Wonderful tutorial, Chris for bringing Lab color into sharper focus. ;)
Mel Greer very good
hi Chris, have had to come back to this video, refresh my brain! this time I'll write it down. Looking forward to more of your videos' on Affinity, slightly different in Photoshop.
This is great news to me, perhaps l will try this with one of my images; l knew of the benefits of LAB but was unaware of this method of sharpening
Grazie 1000 Chris....great tutorial!! I'm hoping for a tutorial on advanced techniques of image composition
hi cris, dee from germany, absolutely top, thumbs up, keep on going, very helpful tutorials, thx rgds...
Excellent Chris, very succinct, thank you, I shall certainly use this.
David Pope cheers Dave
Excellent tutorials!!!
Thank,s for the help from Austria!
Very helpful.Thank you.
Great tutorial. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for this!
Thank you, great lesson!
Terrific. Wondering why you did the selective sharpening in RGB (and why we should ever go back to it). Thanks again!
Great... Thanks
Thanks so much, glad I found this!
Damn, I saw the cat and had to watch this video. ❤️🐱
Round House love it
She is a pretty cat but very grumpy.
Subscribed. Thank you
Thank you!
Can you achieve the same on ipad app? Does it work when converting to lab, add unsharp filter, convert document to rgb?
Thank you for your videos, you explain things so well. Would you be able to do one with the use of multiple brushes to figure out when and which to use. Thanks !
Straingelove hi thank you, can you elaborate a bit more please
Chris P Williams hi, thanks for replying and sure let me try. I’m very new at all this and would like to know more about painting with brushes. Learning what each brush does and what to use them for. I see lots of pictures of water that look like some brush work was added to the water but not sure which brush and how. Also retouching Hair from a picture taken in an online game from an avatar. I hope that’s clearer, I’m sorry if it isn’t. If you need more clarification please ask. Thanks again.
Amazing, but I have to ask, is there any reason to NOT use LAB? Why would anyone use the lower color range RGB?
You will have problems exporting LAB colour photos and will also be unable to print them because of the increased depth.
Hi. I'm new to Affinity Photo. This tutorial was just what I was looking for in terms of learning about sharpening. I'm following the tutorial but you fail to mention how the changes are saved out! I have my background and I have my altered layer. Do I now select export and it will export the background and the layers all as one new image? Great tutorial though *thumbs up*
Yes if you export the image, all the layers will be saved.
@@chrispwilliams6297 Brilliant thank you.
outstanding!!!
thanks chris. on the topic of lab color space, i understand that there is a way to retain lab color in an rgb document. would you explain the process? possibly a video?
You can never retain all the range of LAB in RGB however working in 16 bit instead of 8 bit should improve things. Also try using tiff instead of jpeg
hi Chris, great tutorial. However, I have a question: when merging layers, I lose sharpening effects. What could be the reason for this change?
I realise this is an old video now but I tried this on a photo recently using the latest version of Affinity Photo and I can't find the colour format option on the document drop down menu. Any help please? I would like to try this method if possible.
OK, so if I do all this work in LAB and then convert to JPG to post online or to make a print from, will that be impossible? Or will the image look bad after converting? I'm confused as to whether it's worth doing this if after converting to JPG or TIFF to make a print the result will be a poor image. . .Is that the case? I'm really disappointed right now because I loved this tutorial and technique, but I'm getting the idea that it may not really be of any benefit to me. . .Can you clarify this for me? Thanks, and I really enjoyed this tutorial. . .
BluesImprov hi there, it’s a question of headroom. Similar To when you shoot in RAW, when you process a RAW image you have so much more data to use. This results in a less ‘damaged’ jpeg or TIFF when you convert it back.
Every edit you bake to a jpeg will degrade that image. Using LAB reduces that damage whilst editing. Therefore, when you convert back you have a better quality jpeg with less editing artefacts. Hope this helps .
Chris P. I can not find lab color in the Document ???? how to do ???????
i love your tutorials! could you make one on how to make outdoor portraits "glow"? when i use the lighting filters it makes my photo look foggy.
Toni Brooke hi there, can you post a link to an example of what you are after?
pin.it/prX7lFK
this is what i want to achieve
pin.it/prX7lFK
Hi Toni, this looks more like a low contrast plus flare effect. I will see what I can pull together for you.
thank you very much!
My mask icon dosent change the color,effect is visible, but mask/unsharp filter icon stays white... any idea how to fix that?
Hi Chris. You mentioned that, while in LAB color, you were going to be sharpening on the Lightness layer (channel). It looked like you didn’t select anything special to do that. Can you explain how you are only affecting that one channel if you are not making a selection from it. Thank you.
Steven Dempsey hi you only select the lightness layer then any filters are applied globally. Not sure if this answers your question. If not please let me know the time point in the tutorial where you have the problem and I’ll try to help
I see what you mean, that's mistake on my part. I meant to say we are going to be using all the layers to make the adjustment. I will remedy and repost. cheers for pointing that out.
Yes, Chris, that’s what I was referring to. Thank you.
Steven Dempsey I’ve edited that part out now so we go straight into the sharpening edit. Thanks again for noticing that school boy error
Chris - came back to this great video after a while but can no longer see the option to convert to lab space in the document drop down menu. Suggestions?
changed to Romm rgb
As I said a year ago, this is great. Please forgive an ignorant belated question: why go back to the original color space when doing the mask sharpening?
Bill Fried thank you, it’s because lab uses more data than a jpeg or tiff can handle. The file sizes involved would be massive. However the extra headroom is only important during the edit. As it allows you to work with colours that do not exist in the non lab colour space. This allows you to exploit all the data available in the Srgb colour space. There is no real benefit to saving the lab colour version as your pc monitor or printer could never represent that wide a colour gamut.Hope that helps
This was a great video but I'm wondering if using high pass with this method would give an even better outcome?
Give it a try and let us know how you get on.
@@chrispwilliams6297 Try it I will. I'm so new to this and the whole businesses is over whelming but I appreciate everything you and others like you do. I'd never get started otherwise
Hi Chris, thanks for this tutorial. I have done in your way and it looks great on screen.
But after exporting to jpg i got so much artifacts that the picure is not useable :-(
I am using the latest version of Affinity Photo 1.8.3.641 and under the Documents tab there is no 'Colour format' so I cannot get to 'LAB colour space'. Why is this??
Hi this changed recently, you now :
Click Document
click convert format
Then click the format drop down menu
and select LAB from there.
Hope this helps
More Sharpening methods
How can I do this in Affinity Photo for iPad?
HisLittleOne hi there you do it the same way except to switch to lab colour you need to click the page icon top left of your screen. It’s the one with the corner l and 3 dots. Then select lab colour from the drop down
THANK YOU!!!
Your tutorials are WONDERFUL!!! :)
On Convert, what is chose on Rendering Intent and about Black point compensation?
Mihai Mihai rendering intent
Did this change in macOS 1.7.2? No Color Format when I click Documents.
I'm not finding Color Space LAB.... I believe it was in an earlier version, but it shure seems to have disappeared in the latest version... Windows version here.
Little to no haloing using LAB to sharpen, correct?
that is correct
@@chrispwilliams6297
How does it manage to do this when sharpening is nothing more than adding contrast to edges? Wouldn't haloing still occur even in LAB mode?
@@Flashback_Jack It does however as LAB is higher resolution mathematically speaking, the halo effect is reduced dramatically
I’m afraid you got the wrong guy, mr. Wehl lives down the hallway 3th. Door to the left.
Chris is it correct that there is no voice.
The voice is there, have you muted youtube?