Fixing Atari's Legendary 1980 MISSILE COMMAND Arcade Game Cabinet! PCB Repair & Ram Faults
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Just discovered your channel, one of the best on UA-cam... taking me right back to my childhood. I was 8 (and in the UK) when this came out. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Neil, glad you found us! We do multiple videos a week, see you on the next one!
@@LyonsArcade You said there is nothing wrong with San Francisco, lol.
Have you seen the news or the poop map lately?
Maaaan that sucker is _CLEAN._
Beautiful stuff 👍
It's pretty nice Clint, thanks for watching man!
The cabinet is immaculate condition, even the internals looked very well cared for, the owner must truly loving arcade games…
He has quite a few very nice examples!
I remember hanging out in all the local arcades in the early 80's as a teen....just thinking about all the noise and lights still gives me a rush. 80's were awesome to be a teenager. I still clearly remember walking into a 7-11 on the way home from school and seeing a Space Invaders machine for the first time. Actually, now that I think about it, I remember seeing and playing the first Pong machines at the local Pizza Hut as a youngster. Damn, good times.
I'm a little younger and I didn't see any games when I was really young, the first one I can actually in my head remember seeing was Ikari Warriors which didn't even come out until 87 or so, and I had a home system before that, so I think I may just have a bad memory, lol. Thanks for watching RA29!
My Father worked for an arcade games company back in the 80's. Came home from school one day and found a table top Space invaders machine in the front room. Boy was our house popular that week :)
When I was a kid every summer there was a carnival that came to the neighborhood.
The carnival had a game tent with straw on the ground. I would spend all day in that tent, and my favorite game was missile command. Seeing one brings back great memories.
Wow I had forgotten about the straw on the ground, I didn't have games at ours but I remember those carnivals, you don't see them as much anymore.... thanks for watching Truvuz!
For a refreshing change of pace, the problem with the machine was exactly what the machine said the problem was.
Yeah you don't see that too often :)
Perfect example of a classic!
Retro maximus!
On later levels it was so tough to stop em all.
Man on early levels for me it was tough to stop them all, haha Thanks for watching Dull AF
had a friend in ‘82 whose dad supplied arcades with machines.. we got the chance to use a missile command sit-down cabinet at home .. it was like xmas came early 😄
When you're a kid they're more special anyways, I remember when I bought my first one, it was like magic. I bought it right out of the arcade that I used to go to all the time. Then I figured out you could change the gameboard!
I love that even the carpet is authentic.
We try :) Than you for watching John!
But does it match the drapes?
I have a Hakko, once you get the hang of it it works. For all the ic’s you replace it would be worth the investment.
Me too, have mine for about eight years, works like a charm! 👍
This is my favorite game ever. I spent so many days and nights playing this as an 11 year old in 1980! I have to have one. This was awesome 😎. Store owner had to pay me NOT to play 😂 because I got so good I would play for hours. Those were great times
I think eventually the stores figured out they were only making a quarter for all that electricity :) Thanks for watching greenlantern1123!
Wow, you have the greatest collection of these classic arcade games.
I mentioned before about a friend of mine who was an expert at playing Defender, but this game was my specialty. I spent many hours on this game protecting the US from thermonuclear armageddon, instead of doing my physics homework.
Thank you for your service Jim :)
I hope you guys realize you are not only technically blessed cool dudes that like to have fun, but are preserving important electronic entertainment history all the while.
Thank you Deborah that's very nice of you to say... see you on the next video!
I went through the same problems with solder suckers (didn't go through as many as you did) then found the Engineer Solder Sucker SS-02 made in Japan. It actually works over and over. I also really like the feel of it, aluminum body. The tip is replaceable, its a pleasure to work with.
I may have to try that one out too thanks Joe!
as a long time electronics tech , really enjoy your patience ,,never had your perseverance. takes a special tech guess I had it easy
Thank you for watching Kenneth, that's nice of you to say.
The first solder sucker I ever purchased, when I was 19 years old, has a Teflon tip. 36 years later I'm still using it! With a few pieces of garbage mixed in during that period which are dead and gone. 🙂😝
I think the Teflon is the secret :) Thanks for watching John, we appreciate it!
Excellent repair nice to see an old classic
Thanks Nigel!
Talked to Joe's brother I think his name is Ron.. on the phone yesterday. Wow these guys know there stuff and go out of there way to make it right .If I ever buy a arcade machine I would drive 5 states away to go get one from them no questions ask .... amazing
It was good talking to you Billy, i'm gonna check out your videos man! Now you have 101 :)
That game is so hard and frustrating but fun. I remember being a kid and buying missile comand for my Atari system, i luved my Atari system.
We still fix up Atari systems all the time, such a great system with so many fun games back then... thanks Donnie!
WOW I can't believe it.... you get ALL the easy repairs! ;-)
We just film the easy ones :) Thanks for watching John!
Excellent, another one saved. Keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep watching you do it!
Thanks Douglas we appreciate you hanging out with us!
Love that solder sucker, the silicone end makes sense. That cabinet looks great, can't believe how well the troubleshooting guides used to be and how nicely the chips are positioned. Almost as if the PCBs were made with repair in mind now there's an idea haha, unlike todays garbage tech made to throw away! Lol.
Yeah it's crazy how it's changed, some for the better some for the worse! for repair work, pretty much all for the worse! The early Atari manuals told you how each PIN on the game worked, It would say like "The signal is reversed by A2 at pin 2 and 3" or it would tell you exactly how the character was created on the screen and if it looks like this, then this is probably the problem, etc. I fixed a Stunt Cycle once because the manual told me exactly what to check. Crazy!
Another one in the books and hundreds more to go. Nice Job Ron and Joe.
GREAT FIX!!!!! Y'all need a t-shirt that says "COME ON PEOPLE". LOL
I might have to make one :) Thanks again Troy!
I too went through all the cheap solder suckers, imitation HAKKO guns, and wick. Finally bought the HAKKO. Works way better than all of them. Not perfect, and sometimes gets plugged up, but overall, no comparison to the cheap stuff. Great videos!!!
Thank you Gus, we appreciate you watching buddy!
Incredible work, as always guys!
This video game right here. That is the first game I ever bugged my dad for a quarter to play. I was so young he had to prop me up on his knee so I could see the screen. Damn man, thank you for the video!!! :-)
Thanks for watching Asmodeus! We'll see you on the next one....
I loved this game in the arcades! Thank you for working on this beauty!!!
Best feeling trackball ever. Great game.
It's legendary, that's for sure!
When ever I need to clean solder I use solder wick it's a lot easier
Why have I only just found this Chanel. Love this kind of stuff 👍👍
Nice; I was 20 in 1980...I spent a few bucks on this game...:)...Nice repair...Looks like new...
Thank you Rob, we appreciate you watching!
You have an excellent skill of mimicking the sounds of video games and pinball machines
Nice to see a arcade ron
Thanks for watching Arcade Crusaders! We try to do arcade then pinball then arcade then pinball to keep everybody happy :) See you on the next one, another arcade video is out Friday...
Good stuff! if I lived close enough I'd try to get a job with ya'll, this is right up my alley.
Just wanted to say a huge thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I was a huge arcade rat and technophile in the 80’s. I loved any opportunity to see inside a pinball machine or arcade cabinet, but the technician usually wasn’t patient with my questions. These videos are so interesting and immersive that even your longest videos seem to pass by so quickly. This channel would have been an absolute dream for my 13 year old self.
Ive always wanted to acquire a non functioning EM pinball machine to repair. Unfortunately space prohibits but hopefully one day. Your videos will be a huge part in the success of that future endeavour.
Thanks again.
Thank you Chris, that's very nice of you to say. We appreciate you watching!
Seeing all those junk solder suckers, I was about to recommend the same one you got. Hands down the best manual sucker I’ve ever used. So smooth and consistent.
There's a knockoff of that vampire that's slightly cheaper but the thing breaks. Gotta go with that actual brand and they're really nice! Thanks for watching onezeroone!
hi guys, thanks for making these videos !
Thank you Scott, glad you enjoyed it!
Way to go Joe! Thanks!
I am a little late seeing this one !! Your videos are informative and you guys are hilarious and entertaining !! Keep up the great work with making these videos !!! They are very much appreciated !!! I will be picking up a Missile Command in a couple of weeks so I will get to see what I am in for with fixing it.
I got lucky because I bought an electrified solder sucker when the local Radio Shack closed and it has been amazing.
I tried one once but the one I got must have been a piece of crap! Thanks for watching heated pool and bar!
uuuh con una igual jugaba cuando tenía 14 años ! 43 años atrás ! buen trabajo y saludos desde Uruguay !
nice fix guys, enjoyed this one..
Thank you DarkShijma we appreciate it! See you on the next one...
All contraptions for sucking up solder when desoldering need maintenance/attendance in order to work properly. That is just life. Used properly a more pro version than a manual sucker. Will reduce the stress on the pad. It is pain when the pad just break off on older boards
Maybe one day i'll work up to the nice one :) Thank you for watching Afre!
We need a compilation of Ronnie's sound affects from his videos ..no need for manuals just Ronnie sounds ..coils - pinball motors - arcade test mode beeps -the lot ... Dam near perfect by my ears too 🤣
Keep up the great work guys 👍👍
I even sang on a few of them :) thanks for watching long-term Kiel :)
It ain't broke no more!
Nice one, cool video.
discovered your channel by chance, youtube recommended the video where you fixed car game with the weird accelerator paddle issue. Glad I found it, I'm hooked on these. I love seeing how you fix them and then play them. Hopefully (maybe I missed it) you'll make a video of the circus pinball machine gameplay.
Greetings from South Africa.
We did make one, thank you for watching in South Africa, we appreciate it! You can see the Circus here: ua-cam.com/video/x9vp8pGqVI0/v-deo.html
Love your videos! Awesome job!
Thanks Level! We appreciate you hanging out with us a little bit.
@@LyonsArcade wish you were closer..do you make house calls?
love this channel. it tickles my nerd bone like this old tony does.
Thank you Gaven!
Your basic bouncy castle costs $500-$1000 to rent for the day, at least around here. Can't imagine how much they must have spent on that thing.
Yeah it’s huge! Don’t worry the city paid for it that money just comes out of thin air right ? 😀
Yeah bout the same in new Zealand..got a friend who has his own bouncy castle business
First off, good job! Second, go to eBay and look up "S-993A". It's a great Electric Vacuum Desoldering Pump for around $100. I have one I use almost daily and it's worth every penny. Also it's imperative to buy the 3 extra nozzle sizes so you don't destroy pads and surrounding areas. US sellers charge an extra $10 or so but it's worth it, in my opinion. It'll come in 2 days. I can guarantee you won't be disappointed with it. I'll never use a manual pump again.
I'll have to check that out, thank you Rob!
This game was like "crack" back in the early '80s...I was totally addicted to this game.
It's so damn hard I can't see how anybody ever got good at it! I guess at the time it was so hot that you really wanted to get good at it and spent the time to learn it! Thanks for watching David!
@@LyonsArcade It's super hard at the faster levels. My brother and I spent countless hours playing this in a bar in the Bronx. The bartender was addicted to it too. The three of us spent way too much time and money play but it was silly fun (or wasted time) :)
Everyone needs a co-pilot like Joe!
ain't that the truth! Thanks for watching!
I love the arcade game repairs. Maybe someday you will get another one like that Space Invader that gave you such a hard time a few years back. That was one of the first videos I saw from you and it hooked me just to see your methodology in your troubleshooting. Great video. Good to see (hear) Joe getting a little more audio time, you guys play off of each other so well. Tell Joey Hi for me.
We'll find another Space Invaders eventually, what a classic! We have plenty more to work on between now and then though, haha. See you on the next one Brant thanks for watching!
19:58 Thank god for yoga pants! Great fix guys!
BrownChickenBrown Cowwwwwww
I always used the big blue solder sucker or the black ones. After you have to clean them and they start getting stuck and quit sucking...clean it out the normal way, then spray silicone lubricant down the tube. Use silicone spray because you don't want to degrade the o-ring.
I've heard that makes them work better!
I also have loads of cheap desoldering pumps. I was also laughing because I have exactly the same models you have but I did settle on the electric desoldering station and never looked back. Now let's see your solder collection.
I'm not as picky about the solder because it all works, haha thanks for watching MrMaxeemum!
The best pump is the solderpult. Old stuff but everlasting.
In my best Garth Algar voice "You know Wayne that desoldering tool certainly does suck" 🤓😉🎸🎵🎶
Nice repair on that game😎👍
Thanks Danijel, we appreciate it man!
been watching for a while and never heard a legible word from Joe. Kick Ass!!! lol
He's a man of few words....
Hakkos are awesome. I bit the bullet and got one a few years ago and desoldering is faster than soldering now lol. Cleaning it is easy as emptying a trash can. They’re $300 bucks tho but you’ve spent that much on pain in the ass time with those crappy spring loaded ones!
I've heard they're cool, I tried to buy the bootleg one and couldn't use it very well but it could just be that thing was junk.... I really like the hand held ones too though I just needed one that was quality, so I was happy to find it :) Maybe one day i'll work up to the Hako! Thank you for watching Sideburn!
@@LyonsArcade yeah the one you ended up with looks good.
WOW !! :) Great memories of this game from my childhood,thanks for this amazing video guys x lots of catching up for me to do,but hey winters comin soon and im sure il get right on track !! ;) x
No worries Saskia we know you check in when you can, thank you for watching :)
Winter's almost over here 😩☃️
Nice repair and looks like a pretty good example of the game. Though it certainly wasn't one of my favorites to play. I never could get good at that game. Kicked my ass. I always blamed it on that massive trackball. Too much mass to move. I wonder what it would be like to play it with a Centipede sized ball not that I'd change it from what it is.
And now I know what Joe looks like. Nice reflection in the glass when he was playing.
Me too Solitaire I just can't grasp it, I think the secret of it is you're not supposed to be too accurate, you're supposed to just zone out and see the whole screen not just the area you're trying to shoot. What do I know though :) Thank you for watching!
I tried it with a centipede trackball and it still kicked my ass 🤣
This sure was my favorite game in the arcade.
I think the "massive" big trackball just fits this game perfectly, it gives some nice momentum when you aiming for the incoming rockets.
And indeed, "zone out" to have the big overview of the whole screen and anticipate on the rockets and chain reaction of explosions is the key to be successful with this game.
I remember my arcade operator installed replacement roms because of the 810,000 Bonus city bug.
outstanding thank you gentlemen
Thanks Spider!
Quick fix, Liked
Thanks Rome good to see you :)
One of my favourite games ever !!
It's pretty awesome! Thanks for watching Edward!
I gave up on those cheap solder suckers and bought the Hakko. It works flawlessly, easy to clean, dont have to clean often. I've had it for a couple of years now. You probably have spent a lot of money over the years buying the cheap ones :)
Hako is about 250. I bought one and it works really well. I also use a solder alloy.
I'll probably get one eventually but this little solder sucker works really well for what it is, best one ever...
Another good one !
Thanks Six Toes :)
that's 20 minutes of my life I will never get back. Good gig - get stoned and fix games.
Thanks for watching man. Maybe lighten up a little bit, enjoy life more.
On the solder-suckers...I remember the ones that were just a rubber bulb that you squeeze..also the ones that actually attach to the iron. A good alternative is desoldering braid...melt the solder, and the braid sucks it up like a paper towel.
Excellent job! Just remember that if you buy the Hakko desoldering tool, that you must read a Haiku that you've written when first showing it on YT. At least that's what I heard. LOL
hahaha that wouldn't work too good for me, I slur all my syllables together so they're harder to count :) Thanks for watching Neil!
SF is a beautiful city- used to be you could afford live there, before the silicon revolution.
I heard it's not quite so beautiful anymore unfortunately. Had some friends go there and actually said they'd never go back they had such a horrid experience....
that tip on the vampire is silicon fuel tube for remote control nitro engines....
you can buy some fuel tube and stick it on the end of the chinesium led suckers ..
i have that tubing here and ill give it a try on my chinesium lead suckers
I think it will probably make them work much better! Thanks for watching hill billy!
Solder sucker #3: got one on my desk right now with a ruined tip lol.
Yeah I got tired of trying those and was happy to find the other one. Thank you for watching jaxtraw!
Yes! Arcade Games! Great game
It sure is. Very hard though! I find myself saying the games are too hard often, LOL Thanks for watching Nick!
This was my game in Seattle. They had the table top.USA .
Very cool man :)
Cool! My Favorite game!
Thanks for watching Mark!
I remember the Missile Command at Champ's Rollerdrome was loud af.
As it should be :) Thanks for watching Alan!
@@LyonsArcade By the way, it's mentioned in an episode of Barney Miller.
cool arcade missile command !
Thank you Tomy Power, Glad to see you :)
@@LyonsArcade you're welcome
Nice repair. I won't play the game it just too damn hard. LOL. Defender I used to be able to do.
Yeah I look at this one more than I play it. So damn hard. Thanks for watching Timit!
Soldapullt works. You need volume and tip diameter large enough to clean the holes and a non-stick tip. Flux also helps. I do like the silicone tubing and I might copy that...
The Glory Days of the 8-bit Processor
They really knew how to program back then
They sure did!
Love that game Joe Joe
We do too Charlie!
And get this it was converted from a program listing in a MTX512 COMPUTER book of programs.
Very cool!
I knew that this would be the next repair. Atari :)
You're Psychopathic! Or Psychic, one of those...
I have an old self-heating solder sucker from Radio Shack, all metal with plastic handle and a rubber bulb and it works great. You need two hands to operate it, but that's fine since the sucker does the heating. No idea if you can still get them, mine's from the 1990s.
eventually you'll spend as much on the lousy pullers as you would for the Hakko, I bought my HAkko from an auction for returned merchandise for 200 CDN - been one of the best things I bought for electronics.
That's true! I really like the handheld ones though, if I could get one that works well, and this Vampire one works really well so i'm pretty happy with it. Thank you for watching 808v1!
Plugged a lot of quarters into that puppy.
This might be the same one you actually played Andrew, did you scratch your name in it anywhere I could check ? :)
@@LyonsArcade it would have had to have made the trek to Ottawa Canada.
Ronnie 3:16 says I just fixed your game 💀..what???..what???😂🤣
I'm shaking my head back and forth and have two knee braces on
I had the source code for this game in BORLAND TURBO BASIC. and running on an INTEL 8086 it was very very fast and very hard to beat.
That's very cool David, did you hook a trackball to it?
@@LyonsArcade No it was controlled via a Joystick.
I got a Hakko and I still prefer the manual sucker.
Yeah I’m used to the manual one so I was happy to find a quality one
I need to send you guys my Scramble board. :)
We wouldn't have any way to test it unfortunately!
MISSILE COMMAND!!!!! A... wait for it.... BLAST!!!! FROM THE PAST!!!!
I still have my blue solder sucker, but I'm not a big fan of it...similar reasons as you are. I moved to a bulb sucker, but those fail quite a bit as well. I'll wait for another few vidjayos of you using it though...LOL
We've been using it for about two months, we're happy with it :) Thanks for watching WreckDiver99!
Used to play this at the local toystore on the Atari 2600..well that and berserk
I used to go to Sears and play the Nintendo back in the day :) WHOOOOOO
@@LyonsArcade did you get my link Ron about the fridge?
@@LyonsArcade oh hey Ron..did you ever get into trouble for playing the doors on your channel that time?
Advance Automatic Sales inc was incorporated on the 1st of March 1982 and went out of business on the 6th of June 1988, so you can call them, but they aren't going to answer. :)
WOW I remember playing this at the 7-11 yes 7-11 and Burger King had games too fun game but i'm left handed damn ! it looks almost new hopefully it wont be THE END for this classic
The best solder sucker is the original one: a genuine Edsyn Soldapullt DS017 (and its ESD-safe variants DS017LS and AS196). You have two shameless, cheap knockoffs of the original Edsyn (the black one that you said is too big, which is a knockoff of the DS017LS, and the blue and yellow one that looks exactly like it except for the color, which is a knockoff of the DS017). I worked in a PCB factory for two years doing assembly line through-hole soldering as well as rework, and we were issued DS017, DS017LS, or AS196 solder suckers. We also had Metcal desolder stations connected to factory air but most people didn't bother using them. Sometimes I had to remove an entire board's worth of terminal blocks that a new-hire soldered in backwards, or soldered in the wrong ones, and that took me about 10 minutes with the Edsyn combined with a Metcal MX-500 solder station (50 terminal blocks / 200 solder joints).
I bought a DS017LS to use at home about 20 years ago and it still works perfectly, which isn't surprising, considered they are made for use in factories. I've never had to replace the tip either. With a lot of usage the tip melts a little but not enough to matter. I never had to replace a tip on the one I used at work either, and the ones at work were used pretty much constantly since the factory ran 3 shifts, 7 days a week, i.e., non-stop.
As for it being "too big," I've never had a problem with its size. The only problem I've ever had with them is that their suction is too strong to use on PCBs that are particularly delicate. I've seen them suck a pad right off a crappy PCB before. That was never a problem at work because we made good quality double-sided PCBs with plated through-holes; they were for elaborate commercial/industrial fire alarm systems like are used in hospitals and such, so they were categorized as "life saving equipment." Cutting corners wasn't allowed. Also, it made them exempt from asinine regulations that demanded the use of lead-free solder. We used the best electrical solder alloy that's known to exist: 63/37 (63% tin, 37% lead).
You’re the type of guy who loves to tell me I’m wrong, must make you feel important
@@LyonsArcade ^^^ Yet another guy with disdain for information.
And I didn't even tell you that you were wrong. My whole post was about Edsyn solder suckers and you didn't say anything about them in your video, so how do you figure that I told you that you were wrong?
so entire ep on solder suckers.. nice..
so entire comment on solder suckers... nice..
@@LyonsArcade i still liked the video!! Did electronics a long LONG time ago.. the blue sucker in the packaging is what i used in school 30+ years ago..