Repairing A 1981 Centuri PHOENIX Cocktail Arcade Game - PCB, Monitor, Sound, It's ALL BROKE!
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Wow that's some crazy stuff right there going in to a place without asking to dump some trash
I think I now understand how things work over there. If a game can be fixed in a day, Joe knocks it out. If it's not an easy fix, then Joe leaves a detailed note ("It's broke!") and lets Ron handle it! Nice system!
Joe...that's a BIG NO on the garbage man. I'll toss things out at the gas station, or any place that has an outdoor garbage can, but I would NEVER in my life say "hey, lets go in this store and throw away the garbage I've been collecting". NOPE...ESPECIALLY if that meant needing to traverse half the shop, and going behind the counter to do it. That's a guy you need to say "Sir, this is a store, not a place to throw away your trash".
Looks like the hot snot pushed the chips out. Gotta love the easy ones though.
I remember this game, wasn't in my top 10, but I played it on occasion back in the day. OH...I also had the "clone" of the game for the Sanyo MBC555-2 Computer....it was called "DEMON SEED".
Phoenix was the bomb! Hard to play but damn addicting!
An excellent clean up and repair video!
When you turned on the cabinet and I heard that sound I knew immediately what was wrong with it .....
It's Broke!!
You're good!
I thought it was either broke or not working right.
@@nicoleking772it doesn't need to work because it probably votes Democrat 😆
i know you are busy, but i want to thank you for taking the time to make this video.
great repair.
When you said, "The Game" and then "Lubed up" I lost it dude lol. I love the Channel and what you guys do to preserve these machines. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for watching, as always!
As usual, Joe does all the work and Ron is just playing around. LOL! Thanks guys
Found one of these on someone's driveway that they were trying to toss, they let us keep it at no cost. Now my Dad and I are trying to repair ours and we have the same issue with garbled mess on the screen, so this video should be really helpful! Hopefully we can get it working in good enough condition.
Joe, you did great. But you're supposed to start the video "Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Joe's Classic Video Games with another COOL arcade repair video!" Although you did get the VERY important "It's Broke!" But thank you for taking the the time for doing the video for us. But thumbs up!
I knew I was forgetting something! maybe next time
Yeah Joe, the trash can feller is weird. I would hide all the trash cans and see what he does next time :) Hum sounds like a bad filter cap. Another great video Joe and Ronnie. Yeah I spent few quarters on that game when I was a kid. :) Thanks for sharing.
The trash thing is weird but I wouldn't discourage it. It's marginally better than just throwing it out of the car window, which is what people do round my way.
Joe. When I was a kid, I always thought of these arcade machines as incredibly high tech, but when you open and look at them, they all look mostly like my dad's extra parts from.his 1970's correspondence TV repair class!
In any case, great work as always!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you! great family work. I was broke and you turned it into wonderful memories of this great game!
Cheers boys. Makes me kind of happy that a shop like yours is as busy as it is in this day and age. Cool game too, about a decade before my time, but looks great and a strangely haunting soundtrack. 10/10, would watch Ronnie get carried away and bump the camera again.
I like to flail about sometimes
Thank you for another great video. The first video game console that we had was a Coleco Vision. Then we got an Atari 5200. I never noticed any problem with the controllers either some of my favorite games for the 5200 are Kangaroo, Gorf, Blueprint, Super Breakout, and Star Trek.
Nice work. Looks great. Remember playing it back in the day.
Nice to hear from you, Joe! I don't think I've ever seen a Phoenix game before, even back in the day. Nice little game here. The fella could have spent more to shoe-shine it up but I'd still love this as-is anyway.
Ronnie: I don't know what video you said this in, but I thought it was interesting. Something like "These old games make all kinds of hums and buzzes, and it's hard to say what they sounded like new because when they were new they were in loud, noisy arcades and locations. But now people expect them to be perfectly silent in their living room, and that's probably not realistic."
Such a classic game. The first arcade game I saw as a kid was Breakout (had seen pong at home), but when I think of the earliest and coolest games I played in the arcade.... Phoenix is top 10. I thought it was going to a much tougher diagnostics slough, but you seem to have homed in on it immediately. Wonderful to see it fixed without a LCD conversion too! Great job all around.
I'd like to see what you guys do troubleshooting joystick/button issues in the future.
Looks like a great game. I really enjoyed this game repair. I love these old cocktail tables.
Sounds like you have some video signal interference in the audio.
Also, if those colors are that much out of wack, there's probably something wrong with the built in Degauss coil or its circuitry.
And by the way that little cardboard cover for the plug that Joe is taking about, was right there in the machine. But I'm sure you guys noticed that 🙂
Thanks for posting guys!
AFAIK all Phoenixes have video interference in the audio. And the cocktail table had a degauss push button built in on the right near the power supply, this machine has manual degauss.
After spending many hours & most of my pocket money playing Phoenix as a kid in the 80's those two tunes, Romance D' Amour & Fur Elise are forever embeddid my soul.
Most likely a self repair gone bad. Your patience is outstanding. Pleasure watching you restore these historical arcade cabnets.
Has a Taito D coin board?
Attract/Title screen says Taito.
Great job Joe. We need more simple arcade fix lists videos. Thanks guys!!
Great memories of Phoenix! A true Icon. Thanks for the video!
“Notice about today’s episode: Although Joe’s Classic Video Games typically features pinball repairs hosted by Ronnie, for this episode only, a guy named Joe will repair a classic video game.”
I thought I saw some folding that could be on the game board. But that could have been monitor adjustment and the aliasing artifact (which you usually get when taking a video of a monitor).
And I saw the cardboard thing for the plug. It was laying by the CRT.
Great job Joe. One of my all time faves from my youth. Regards
We tend to gravitate towards the first game we ever encountered. A Ferrite isolator might eliminate that hum you showed, earlier. I did have a lot of of fun with this game on consoles, and played a real one, back in the 80s. Had no idea there was a cocktail table version. Thanks for sharing. :)
I pumped plenty of quarters into one of those in the hotel up the street. And a Moon Cresta that sat next to it. I love those old ones but even then I thought the both of them had some of the most headache inducing sound effects ever! I had to go fire them both up MAME so I could experience it all again in person. Good memories for the 10ish year old me.
So back in the 70's / 80's you could have 4 games for $1, but here in the UK we could have 10 games for £1. That hardly seems fair on you.
@@neilwilliams2907 Oh, in hindsight maybe. If someone told me that as a kid I might have been a little mad at the gross unfairness of life. But I had a good income of quarters in my allowance/pay that I recieved from helping out around my parent's bowling alley. I hardly ever lacked a coin in my pocket to play.
It really is amazing to me that these CPU boards can last this long, 42 years old it's still processing perfectly.
Love it! Way to go brothers!
The cocktail cabinet is by SNK, which is interesting. Phoenix was released in different countries by Taito, Centuri and Amstar, but usually they took care of the cocktail cabinets themselves. Also, nobody seems to know the name of the "smaller Japanese developer" who originally developed the game. TPN licensed it to Taito in Japan, but TPN also made bootlegs of the game. Hiraoka licensed it to Amstar, which was located in Phoenix, Arizona, and may explain the name of the game. Or not.
Hi Ron, you’re kicking butt on that game! Lol
You do a good thorough job
It'd be another garbage to empty but a bin outside the door would put a stop to that. I learned that from roller-coaster tycoon
Cocktail table games are a blast! I played Pac-Man & Galaga at a Pizza Hut when they had a buffet. You can sit & be comfy, play longer. I ❤ businesses like this that can bring games back. And that Atari section in the store looks amazing
Cool game. Very nice starfield background. Sound effects really bring it down though.
It probably a good thing Phoenix doesn't have a hit to miss ratio at the end of the game. LOL . Thanks for the video!!!
Hi Joe, never seen a degaussed like that. Definitely fix color issue though! Thanks for sharing!
Need more video game repairs! 50/50 :)
JOES CLASSIC, make more arcade game repairs using the logic probe troubleshooting. I like seeing the more deeper level arcade game repairs using the logic probe troubleshooting.
I found the cardboard peice for that old cable end.😂
Ron,
They probably used Beethoven in game's soundtrack because it was public domain, too! LOL
You scared my cat with that siren sound lol
Just keeping 'em on their toes!
The Taito Corporation copyright indicates this is the Japanese version of Phoenix! This also appeared on the Taito Legends compilation possibly because they had the rights to it at the time. Although the SNK on the cabinet and on the bottom plate is odd perhaps maybe they manufactured the cocktail version in Japan.
Oooh... I'm not an expert on video games but I don't think they're supposed to sound like tornado sirens. Great video guys!
@17:09 Ron who? I liked the video Joe... keep 'em coming!
Oh man, I playeed the heck outta this game!!!!!! I knew the name sounded familiar.
Yes, my favourite, mainly because I could get to the end (of the first round). Thank you.
I think the humming is coming from the logic on the game board. Older computers did that a lot where the display controller would bleed into the sound. Unless you need capacitors, I don't think much else can be done.
lol, I would put a sign on the front door stating that if they would like to use the trash, it will cost them $1.00 per item unless they buy something first. My dad work on the classic video games too. That is where I learned how to repair electronics. When it came to the cocktail games, I always had to play the two player to make sure both sides worked equally. I am sure you did, it just wasn't on the video. The chips that were not seated properly was always caused from people using them like a pinball machine, or even when the owners move them around. They usually get dropped, which causes the chips to work loose. I would have to put silicone under the chips to make sure they wouldn't come loose from abuse. Awesome game though. My favorite was Popeye the cocktail version. Have a good day! Oh, Tell Joe to smile more... lol
The only problem with putting up signs is people don't read!
@LyonsArcade yeah, I forgot about that problem. We'll I remember when my dad had his tv shop and there were a couple of guys that would come in every so often to watch TV. That's all they would do. My dad was constantly chasing them out, too.
I forgot about this game, such a classic.
Atari 2600. Yars Revenge, Vanguard, River Raid, Dragster. Now it's PC Gaming and PS5 and Xbox Series X and S
That's rude as hell. Coming in to a place that you are not going to buy anything and use their garbage is just wrong.
Ronny you are the "DKoldies Joey" of this channel...
" I would NEVER condone such an action", but
some folk would just dump the garbage can on the hood of that truck.
Nope not me, but
someone just like me "might" get that Bat$#!T crazy and do something so "unreasonable.
@@nicoleking772 That was a long time ago! I've calmed down a lot since then
@@nicoleking772 NEVER! I'd never do that but... That guy would get a stern talking to though.
8:54 and someone hot snotted them too, and they still popped out!
Twas broke but it ain't broke no more. Great job. 😎👍
Ever bit of what that person did is wrong. I use to own my own business ( repair shop also)at times I would be by myself and be on the phone about 99.9% of the time talking to customers .One time when I was the only one there I had a person come in (not say anything )walk around behind the customer counter and pick the phone up and said he wanted to check and see if the phone was working he had been calling and the phone had a busy signal .didn't know him don't remember ever seeing him again after that. Makes you Wonder what someone's thought process is!!! Thank you guys for the videos also to tell them get out not come back
Great turn around on this one. Personally I prefer Galaga, but this one would be fun to play.
Hats off to the dude!
One of the first game that I played at Chuck cheese. So fun great memories.
Spanisch romance and Für Elise by Beethoven are the tunes.
When the birds spawn, move to left side of screen and it gets a bit easier to hit the birds.
That's a real piece of history. Time machine
All original
This cocktail table cover arcade game but with galaxian-game from the Taito or Midway corp. production serviced in our home my father for his bussines client in year cca 1981. I, and my brother played this arcade game lieu school works until wear away. I nostalgic remember!
lol i own a nice original one say not lcd! :( i am just missing a proper fire button and coin box) good info cheers
My neighbours like it loud too..they really should close their bedroom windows at night 🙄😆
The guy with the trash is kinda weird. I would certainly never do that at a random retail shop. Gas station like you said, has the cans next to the pump so you can throw stuff out while you fuel up but to just mosey into the closest shop, go BEHIND THE COUNTER (!! wtf? !!) and throw out your trash?! no way.
If I was doing some electrical tag and testing on that arcade game and saw the state of that AC mains plug, I'd call it an automatic fail and replace it right away.
The person that comes in your store with the banana peel & stuff...you should put up a sign saying, "Must buy something to use our trash can"...or better yet, when you see him parking, quickly lock the door and hide and see what he does...(film it and upload here). 😅
Nobody reads signs unfortunately. We have a sign on one of our locked doors that says "Other door, please!" pointing towards the other door, people come up all the time, try to open the door, can't, and get back in their car and leave. Then they come back later and say we are always closed.
We used to have this cocktail version of Phoenix at our local Pizza Hut. It replaced a cocktail version of Galaxian of all things.
The first home console I had growing up was the woody style Atari 2600.
I agree the plug was probably fine except for the missing piece (which is a special material called 'fish paper' - it's the same material you occasionally see covering electrical parts like CRT neck boards). Still, replacing it with a more modern one was a good move. Edit: Looks like the missing part of the old plug is trapped under the CRT degauss coil at 10:30.
gas stations and car washes the garbage cans are put out for customers however there is usually a sign that sais cans are for car sized garbage only.
i guess they dont want you to bring in your household garbage.
a retail shop you dont expect to have garbage for customers.
You did great. Where is your shop? How much did it cost?
I'd want to poke into audio source, and hear if there's noise before amplifier. How would an old arcade board act if hooked up to new ATX power supply? *Note: ATX 24-pin, connect on/off switch between pins 15 and 16.
Yeah, if a person comes into an establishment and doesn't say hello how are you or something, that's a flag. Then to have them go past your emotes only zone to throw trash away is unacceptable! Sad to say, put a chain across that area. Besides that, Donny, Donnie, you do good arcade work! Sorry if I spelled your name wrong. Lol
Love you guys work ethic!
Jeff from Nebraska
Ps, what did you charge to fix the Phoenix? 😊
Soon as you switched it on I was like "Whoa, she sure is broke!"
Loved Phoenix but can't play it worth squat anymore About Pleiades, it was the first game that i remember where the NPC radar dishes gave you support fire against your enemies. I thought that was kind of innovative.
That's a great arcade.
I spent hours on one of these as a kid in the 80's at a hotel in Torquay in the UK (have you seen Fawlty Towers?).
If it's "broke" then hoodlums must have snatched the coin box. I always have to drop in a LIKE and promote the channel with some good old ribbing. Nice little unit.
It sounds like Ninja kid when you turned it on the first time 🤣🤣🤣🤣
11:45 I need one of those for an iPhone. 😂
i didnt know that the game had a burglar alarm!.....
Joe - re: the garbage behind the counter -- that dude is rude -- especially since if you don't take it out immediately, the place will smell link stinky bananas. Dude doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself.
I worked record retail for 7 years -- I always assume that behind the counter is off-limits to customers unless explicitly asked. If you're crazy, then I am too!
You know, an OLED monitor would look incredible in there. Not an LED, but an OLED
Youre old school like me Joe🙂
Is it strange to just walk into a business and dump trash without asking? Yes. It is much better than the alternative of them just dumping it out on the ground in front of your store though. So if that is all they do you got off easy. Plus they will know what you sell and maybe tell someone.
Look Indy I was just saying it was weird, next time you come in you can at least say Hi or something
Lol look at it like he was returning his shopping kart. Things just have to get done to be a civilized society
When you turned it on Joe, it sounded like the cops had just turned up
Jokes on you, the cops never show up :) The last time they showed up, it was because a crackhead had been walking around downtown threatening people for 4 months and finally broke into our store in the middle of the night. A cop sat in their car out front to make sure nobody else broke in until I go there to clean it all up at 2a.m., of course they didn't prosecute the guy we had video of breaking into the store or anything, that would have required a police report.
@@LyonsArcade Yip..it's exactly the same here in New Zealand...I was at work 3 weeks ago and 5..yes 5..armed thugs smashed their way through front door, all for what?? 3 bags of lollies..meanwhile a shit mess to clean up, so indeed the joke was on me!!
@@LyonsArcade -- required a police report and less time to eat donuts...
@@PlumGurly no donuts for the cops?? Oh heck..can't have that 🙄
I know someone who had a Galaga cabinet with a bootleg board set (no developer name on the screen like Phoenix and the name is displayed as Gallag). Also, I can't help but wonder if Phoenix was the direct inspiration for Galaxian / Galaga, as well as the mothership battle in Gorf.
Thanks Joe! The guy taking the time to go into your store, find a trash can, then leave is kind of creepy. What else is this peson doing around town? Weirdo.
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I may have seen Phoenix in arcades *back in the 1980s* a total of 2-3 times.
Looking at a screenshot on a web entry, it looks like a Galaga clone but I don't know which game came first. Galaga and Galaxian are what I'm familiar with.
I'm not a huge fan of 1980s shooters but this is a game I'd like to hunt down just to try. Taito retro games never figured into my collecting (I've got Atari and Williams retrogram discs).
As Joe says all the time and is ALWAYS correct about, this cocktail game is "broke!"
Do you think Joe is a better technician than Ron?
It's a bit like hearing Luke Duke/Ron explain things versus Uncle Jesse/Joe.
I kind-of like the slowed down sound fx.
The whole earth is broke can we fix it. NO WE CAN'T LOL 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Noticed the controller back plate is marked SNK! Wonder what the original game was???
Mine works great but has no explosion sounds, Any idea???
The sound on that game can get very annoying. I can imagine most arcades turned the volume down a bit on that one.
What using 2x CORSAIR 1KW PC PSUs to supply +5/-5 Volts for the logic and +12/-12 Volts for everything else and a startup relay to trigger the switch on of both CORSAIR PSUs just an idea.
Bruh BRUH! Hustle a restoration for a double rate! I useh to do it all the time when co puher repair was an easier gig! Once I'd get the ttinc working I'd turn back around & offer them another service! In that case, it was windows optimization. Debloat the install, run updates, clear startup/services, clean the temps out of the fs, crawl the Downloads folder for exe's & msi's to delete, & finish off with a defrag. Back then it was like buying a new computer. In your case it's a mere clean with soap, alcohol, & a polish with polywatch. What, maybe a few electrolytics here or there? Buy one of those astique crt refresh kits?
Is there a trick for getting IC chips into sockets easier? They never line up and I just wind up bending the pins with my fingers the best I can.
You can lay the side of the chip against a table and bend that whole side slightly so they line up better with the socket if they're bent out too far.
@@LyonsArcade -- They do make jigs for this too. Plus, some like spraying Deoxit into the sockets.
They also have a fancy little plastic tool that folds in both sides slightly with one little squeeze. I used on when I used to set up stacks of chips to be inserted.
That seems like a million years ago, way back there in the 90s