10 minutes for the golden conclusion that is only 10 seconds long: if you make a film that is meaningful to you, then it will be meaningful to somebody else. Pure gold.
This is one of the most amazing lectures I've ever heard. This has single handedly rekindled my passion for filmmaking. I've been in a rut and have no friends who are interested in it, little equipment and didn't go to school for it but this is my calling. I'll figure it out.
Sometimes I wonder how ethical it is for folks who were obviously taught all these things with good education to publish these things for their brands/ad money. It feels a little like monopolizing the information and pushing an entitlement at the same time. Teaching is traditionally considered feminine and we see women's work as something not worth paying for and there's entitlement that it should be done without pay. There's a centralization to this too that is almost like gentrification. Rather than a public service that connects people to their communities and others around them it instead connects us to the brands, the internet, the adsense/data collected, etc. I believe in medicare for all, free college, libraries, etc. I believe in publicly funded things that are free for everyone to use, but the key there is publicly funded and community based. Checks and balances for where the money goes. Localized versions available for everyone so there's a connection to your community, plus a lot of job opportunities. At some point there's a line where taking from institutions and intellectuals to have the unions and shared government structures that allos them to be intellectuals and build these ideas to then take from the work of those folks and institutions to publish your own summary of these concepts which you had no or little hand in coming up with for centralized gain and building a brand.. sometimes I think there may a point where it becomes unethical.
@@blurrgblurrg4498 bruh you wrote a thesis on why free knowledge seems unethical to you. Giving free knowledge is much better than paying for it. Get a life
What a fantastic video on symbiotics, I adored the segment about "handing your work" down to an audience, your work then being theirs to interpret. Loved it!
My philosophy of the interpretation of art was the same. This gave me more confidence in not worrying how my movie is interpreted. My job was to make the film, understanding it is the audience's job.
Awesome advice. Also, the Creation of Adam part was a wow moment for me. I have taken a few art appreciation courses that had that piece but nobody ever brought up the brain. That was amazing.
I saw The Dark Knight in a Cinemark theater in the basment of a Marrriot hotel the weekend it came out LITERALLY adjacent to the tunnel from the scene from Bladerunner and the joker's "joyride" and THIS was the moment I decided I wanted to do this for a living. I wanted to take a place that somone maybe know intimately and transform it into another world for the sake of the story I wanted to tell. I exited that theater as a high school sophmore and was transfixed at that tunnel. starring down the empty chasm (It was the midnight screening and their was unussually less traffic than normal) wondering, "how could I use this to tell a story?","Delve into the depths of a character's motivations?","trasform an individuals outlook on the world from one end to the other in mear moments?". Thank you Film Riot for everything you do and steady on. YOU are one of the few reasons I have carried on with my passion through 2 girlfriends, 4 homes, and 1 college majors. Thank you Film Riot.
this was the most impact full speech about film that has ever meant the most to me personally . I have heard the same speech before but it hit home with this one. its the type of education that makes you move to the next level. thank you Ryan for making this available to everyone.
Spielberg answers 6 out of 7 basic questions, like: How, when, where.... but never why. That will be up to the audience to make up there own reason why.
For me, this presentation comes off very sarcastically. None the less, the presenter provided great insight and knowledge to us normie _filmist._ Love to see more of this!
Film Riot Hmm, I may have use the incorrect word lol. But, maybe, a better way is to say he was enthusiastic and humorous when he delivered his key points, which I enjoyed 😄
Iv taken these online lectures but I love rehearing them. Iv made multiple films before and Its nice to see other people gathering around filming just to understand it. Thanks Ryan
as an oil painter who is now finding a passion for filmmaking somewhat late in life, the speaker says something that made me sit up in my chair. and wish more people understood it. "the artist's intention does not matter." this is something I try to explain as well. Every painting is just the first sentence in a dialogue for me. And it is my only participation. From there, it is all viewers. No two people walk away from a conversation with the same impressions, and the same is true in art. No two people will experience a piece in the same way. Ever. So to try to put out a vision that everyone responds to the same way is pointless. It is the engagement that is important, that the conversation is occurring. So, I hide my clues, I make my statements, and almost all of them go unnoticed, or at least unremarked upon. And that is fine. All the best conversations in life are the ones that happened organically. Naturally evolved. Great video, very informative and interesting, thank you.
Been in a slump over the last few months and Alex's discussion of letting go and just making something for yourself made me feel just a bit better, took some of the fear out of all of this.
I think this is the kind of content Film Riot should put out there. Too many about lenses and shots and these over talked about stuff...but film semiology and stuff like telling a story through cinematography is needed. Thumbs up
This guy is smart and talented. This short video was enough to prove the course is probably one of the best ever made about this subject. If you can afford it, take it!!!
Most of Bollywood is centered around economic profit, just like Hollywood is. You need to dig pretty hard to find good directors and screenwriters in both worlds. Film making is slowly dying, just like it happened with sports, then music. We should work hard and speak out to conserve the great skills and talents, but most directors are ignoring them in favor of profit. Producers rule the scene, and they usually have the final word in post production, frequently re cutting a film without the director's support to make it more appeasing to the masses, to the ignorant bigots who only watch action flicks and dumb comedies. I feel sad :(
I dig a lot of this information on subtext and how it's delivered. Pretty enlightening when it's broken down like this. But I do disagree with the idea that "the artist's work means whatever you think it means." That's like saying "The letter the court sent means whatever you think it means" just because you misunderstood the wording or they used the language poorly. Wait... But perhaps just as the writer can intend to say one thing, but use the wrong words and end up saying another, perhaps the artist can mean one thing and use the wrong symbolism to end up sending another message... That can be the case if the artist made it to be "open to interpretation," but it can be that most people simply missed the message the artist attempted to send... Maybe that's the same case with Fahrenheit 451; Bradbury meant to convey one thing, but used all the right imagery as and set up to convey another.. So indeed it's not "it means whatever you think it means" because you're capable of misinterpretating (especially if you miss key details and nuances), and it's not "It means whatever the author thought it means," because they're capable of using the wrong words/images in to convey certain points, but the work will mean something....... It's up to the one who can read the language the best to find out what. ...Or it'll just be a garbled mess ("mixed message"), because that happens, too. :P
I'm literally over here clamping and yelling like yes I know this !!! but finally some else has verbally said it too! it's crazy like I just connected with someone who actually knows what they are talking about. honesty if I only saw the commercial and not 10 in clip I would have just rolled my eyes about these classes. I have ran into so many walls trying to find legit online classes! this is great thank you for sharing
This makes me think of a detail of the movie "Dances With Wolves" - If you notice, as John Dunbar became more and more integrated into the Sioux people, he shed more and more of his Army uniform in favor of Sioux clothing. An interesting visual way to show his character development...
"The orange color is used to foreshadow death," says the presenter in front of orange curtain. Ryan presented him in orange T-shirt... Coincidence? :-)
This was such a great video! I am not a film maker, but as a youtuber I am trying to improve my skill with the camera and shooting a scene (for my videos) and I feel all of what you said is as relevant for a (beginner) youtuber like me as it would be for some of the professional movies makers. Really appreciate your video! Thanks!
Not sure I agree with not controlling how your film is interpreted. I know a lot of filmmakers think of the process as a magic trick. With set up, false trails, a story of emotional ups and downs that finally culminates in a grand crescendo of the climax. Scorsese said that a film should be like a trek up a mountain. A journey that ends with the great peak. That's the only thing I kind of question here. But this is fantastic. It changed my perception.
Thanks for the vid, and I would love to know if you have more material on visual subtext more suitable to Screenwriters. I recently did a very detailed analysis of Spotlight (which I would love to share) and was fascinated by the 2nd film inside the actual film, which is about Robby (Michael Keaton). I thought McCarthy's and Singer's approach, transformed the problem into pure art in the simplest of manners, which unsurprisingly made their attempt for secret narrative realistic and successful, without trying at any point, if I recall correctly, to fool or confuse the viewers.
Oranges in the Godfather wasn't used to foreshadow death. The set designer literally just want to add some orange color into the shots and used a lot of oranges. It's a common misconception
Well the oranges were an integral element in the Godfather's death scene. They also appeared in GF2 when Johnny Ola meets Michael in Tahoe, and Michael eats an orange when planning the death of Hyman Roth. When Johnny Ola first enters he presents a gift of an orange from Miami (Hyman Roth), which is definitely intentional, since they have come to assassinate Michael by order of Hyman Roth. Also, before the assassination of Fanucci, he walks the street and picks up what appears to be an orange from a vendor cart. So yeah, I'd say it is an intentional story element, not a haphazard art direction decision. On the GF2 commentary, Coppola explains during the final assassination planning scene with Michael and the orange, that it was something that started out as an afterthought in the first movie, but took on a significance of its own later.
It's called Visual Subtext because it's referring to symbolism for MOVIES and TELEVISION. Subtext in books and novels is not visual because you can't see it. Use your brain.
For those who are curious about all the 7 components. There's a great book called The Visual Story by Bruce Block which goes in depth about all the 7 Visual components that create the visual structure for the film.
10 minutes for the golden conclusion that is only 10 seconds long: if you make a film that is meaningful to you, then it will be meaningful to somebody else. Pure gold.
This is one of the most amazing lectures I've ever heard. This has single handedly rekindled my passion for filmmaking. I've been in a rut and have no friends who are interested in it, little equipment and didn't go to school for it but this is my calling. I'll figure it out.
How is it going??
8:24 "as soon as you release that film is no longer your film, is our film"
*soviet music intensifies*
*our film*
tbh it is more libertarian or ancap, considering that intellectual property does not exist
I can't believe I saw this for free.
non refundable also.. FU U!! hahahaha
Me too
Sometimes I wonder how ethical it is for folks who were obviously taught all these things with good education to publish these things for their brands/ad money. It feels a little like monopolizing the information and pushing an entitlement at the same time. Teaching is traditionally considered feminine and we see women's work as something not worth paying for and there's entitlement that it should be done without pay. There's a centralization to this too that is almost like gentrification. Rather than a public service that connects people to their communities and others around them it instead connects us to the brands, the internet, the adsense/data collected, etc. I believe in medicare for all, free college, libraries, etc. I believe in publicly funded things that are free for everyone to use, but the key there is publicly funded and community based. Checks and balances for where the money goes. Localized versions available for everyone so there's a connection to your community, plus a lot of job opportunities. At some point there's a line where taking from institutions and intellectuals to have the unions and shared government structures that allos them to be intellectuals and build these ideas to then take from the work of those folks and institutions to publish your own summary of these concepts which you had no or little hand in coming up with for centralized gain and building a brand.. sometimes I think there may a point where it becomes unethical.
@@blurrgblurrg4498 bruh you wrote a thesis on why free knowledge seems unethical to you. Giving free knowledge is much better than paying for it. Get a life
What a fantastic video on symbiotics, I adored the segment about "handing your work" down to an audience, your work then being theirs to interpret. Loved it!
My philosophy of the interpretation of art was the same. This gave me more confidence in not worrying how my movie is interpreted. My job was to make the film, understanding it is the audience's job.
The first rule of subtext is you do not talk about subtext.
Massively underappreciated Film Club comment!
I love how that comment in and of itself is somewhat subtextual
😆👌
You can talk about it, but leave it undefined.
You can't spell subtext without buttsex.
I found it calming when you said to make a film meaningful to me and don't worry about how others interpret it. Thank you I needed that.
Awesome advice. Also, the Creation of Adam part was a wow moment for me. I have taken a few art appreciation courses that had that piece but nobody ever brought up the brain. That was amazing.
I saw The Dark Knight in a Cinemark theater in the basment of a Marrriot hotel the weekend it came out LITERALLY adjacent to the tunnel from the scene from Bladerunner and the joker's "joyride" and THIS was the moment I decided I wanted to do this for a living. I wanted to take a place that somone maybe know intimately and transform it into another world for the sake of the story I wanted to tell. I exited that theater as a high school sophmore and was transfixed at that tunnel. starring down the empty chasm (It was the midnight screening and their was unussually less traffic than normal) wondering, "how could I use this to tell a story?","Delve into the depths of a character's motivations?","trasform an individuals outlook on the world from one end to the other in mear moments?". Thank you Film Riot for everything you do and steady on. YOU are one of the few reasons I have carried on with my passion through 2 girlfriends, 4 homes, and 1 college majors. Thank you Film Riot.
This is the depths not many speak of on UA-cam.
this was the most impact full speech about film that has ever meant the most to me personally . I have heard the same speech before but it hit home with this one. its the type of education that makes you move to the next level. thank you Ryan for making this available to everyone.
Spielberg answers 6 out of 7 basic questions, like: How, when, where.... but never why. That will be up to the audience to make up there own reason why.
5 out of 6***
For me, this presentation comes off very sarcastically. None the less, the presenter provided great insight and knowledge to us normie _filmist._
Love to see more of this!
+Life-Row-Toll Sarcastic?
Film Riot Hmm, I may have use the incorrect word lol. But, maybe, a better way is to say he was enthusiastic and humorous when he delivered his key points, which I enjoyed 😄
It's simple. I see the dark knight joker in the thumbnail, I click.
Quadrant which is why they do it.
wena qls
... and for the first time i was disappointed by the outcome
Criticas QLS q wea wena cabros qls
Really!? i thought it was very informative.
Iv taken these online lectures but I love rehearing them. Iv made multiple films before and Its nice to see other people gathering around filming just to understand it. Thanks Ryan
as an oil painter who is now finding a passion for filmmaking somewhat late in life, the speaker says something that made me sit up in my chair. and wish more people understood it. "the artist's intention does not matter." this is something I try to explain as well. Every painting is just the first sentence in a dialogue for me. And it is my only participation. From there, it is all viewers. No two people walk away from a conversation with the same impressions, and the same is true in art. No two people will experience a piece in the same way. Ever. So to try to put out a vision that everyone responds to the same way is pointless. It is the engagement that is important, that the conversation is occurring. So, I hide my clues, I make my statements, and almost all of them go unnoticed, or at least unremarked upon. And that is fine. All the best conversations in life are the ones that happened organically. Naturally evolved. Great video, very informative and interesting, thank you.
SUBTEXT has been at the center of my writing workshops since the mid 90's. So good to see this take on it. Great stuff.
Wow this was amazing. He added some much depth to filmmaking.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I desperately needed to hear this! It was very freeing to me, pushing me out of a creative block!
I saw his whole lecture a couple of years ago. Amazing! It still resonates with me.
Been in a slump over the last few months and Alex's discussion of letting go and just making something for yourself made me feel just a bit better, took some of the fear out of all of this.
+Aidan Ryan Agreed!
I just screamed a little... Thanks guys, you just made my day
The subtext of this video really spoke to me.
Congratulations! The real meaning of this comment was [whatever you want, insert here].
COLBY Films to see the different meanings people would come up with.
That Creation Of Adam shit blew my mind
Excellent video for so many reasons. Love it!
Trust me this is the best video I ever saw on youtube
I have been an editor for my own projects for a while. I now work as a editor and this really makes me wanna go to film school to learn much more.
absolutely incredible lecture, thank you for this, Ryan.
Wow. I’m writing my first short film now to shoot next month, and this video has made me rethink my subtext use. Thanks FR!
I think this is the kind of content Film Riot should put out there. Too many about lenses and shots and these over talked about stuff...but film semiology and stuff like telling a story through cinematography is needed. Thumbs up
Loved this. I'm a screenwriter with an abstract artist/ creative drawing history, and I love semiology.
This guy is smart and talented. This short video was enough to prove the course is probably one of the best ever made about this subject. If you can afford it, take it!!!
Psaikodelik Artists intent doesn't matter? lol what a bunch of crap .
I like this a lot, Alex has a great speaking voice.
Great speaker - Alex Buono .Thanks for sharing this !
seriously my favorite youtube video right now as I speak, I mean text, or is this subtext, idk???
"I want to unburden you from the pressure of being a genius" - says a genius.
That's such an important piece of advice. Hope Bollywood film-makers listen to this.
lol
Most of Bollywood is centered around economic profit, just like Hollywood is. You need to dig pretty hard to find good directors and screenwriters in both worlds. Film making is slowly dying, just like it happened with sports, then music. We should work hard and speak out to conserve the great skills and talents, but most directors are ignoring them in favor of profit. Producers rule the scene, and they usually have the final word in post production, frequently re cutting a film without the director's support to make it more appeasing to the masses, to the ignorant bigots who only watch action flicks and dumb comedies. I feel sad :(
Why is your name Pyramid?
@@FrenchToast663 kyuki mere abba Fourth Dynasty Egyptian pharaoh Khufu they, zyada bakchodi kiya toh shraap deke Mummy bana dunga.
Plsssssss
Learning film making and somehow landed here! Thank you Film Riot! I'm pumped!
Wow! Thank you guys.
Greatly helpful. 👏👏👏
Such an amazing video! I feel like I'm back in film school. Thank you for making this information available to us.
Just 10 mins has lots of information great class
I dig a lot of this information on subtext and how it's delivered. Pretty enlightening when it's broken down like this.
But I do disagree with the idea that "the artist's work means whatever you think it means." That's like saying "The letter the court sent means whatever you think it means" just because you misunderstood the wording or they used the language poorly. Wait... But perhaps just as the writer can intend to say one thing, but use the wrong words and end up saying another, perhaps the artist can mean one thing and use the wrong symbolism to end up sending another message... That can be the case if the artist made it to be "open to interpretation," but it can be that most people simply missed the message the artist attempted to send... Maybe that's the same case with Fahrenheit 451; Bradbury meant to convey one thing, but used all the right imagery as and set up to convey another.. So indeed it's not "it means whatever you think it means" because you're capable of misinterpretating (especially if you miss key details and nuances), and it's not "It means whatever the author thought it means," because they're capable of using the wrong words/images in to convey certain points, but the work will mean something....... It's up to the one who can read the language the best to find out what.
...Or it'll just be a garbled mess ("mixed message"), because that happens, too. :P
Great Knowledge Given! Thanks Film Riot for giving us this!
I'm literally over here clamping and yelling like yes I know this !!! but finally some else has verbally said it too! it's crazy like I just connected with someone who actually knows what they are talking about. honesty if I only saw the commercial and not 10 in clip I would have just rolled my eyes about these classes. I have ran into so many walls trying to find legit online classes! this is great thank you for sharing
Thank You, Film Riot. This Is Amazing! Thanks Alex Buono.
This video helped me so much! My films will start looking how I want with the right advice 🙏
+NRK Films right on man. Glad you dug it
Very true. Let the work speak for itself.
We have the 48Hour challenge coming up here in New Zealand, so I'm binge watching your videos Film Riot!!!
Thank you for opening my mind to the new possibilities and techniques in film!
this was a really great video, thankyou filmriot !!
Ohhmygooodnesss!! This is soooo informative. Am so happy that this vid shows up in my recommendation. Thanks again filmriot! 💕
Amaizing information. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 👍🏻
Arghh.. the best as always. Thanks for sharing it with us :D
Can you talk about one-shots? Specifically entire shorts/sketches shot in one take?
Antonio Smith-Plata I'd actually like that.
Watch the Ghost House BTS.
Scott Sullivan yea I saw that but a whole episode on this would be interesting I think
Go watch every frame a painting
Never knew Jay from RLM had so much passion for visual subtext in film.
damn, all these knowledge and for free. you're da real mvp man
This makes me think of a detail of the movie "Dances With Wolves" - If you notice, as John Dunbar became more and more integrated into the Sioux people, he shed more and more of his Army uniform in favor of Sioux clothing. An interesting visual way to show his character development...
This is gold!!!
"The orange color is used to foreshadow death," says the presenter in front of orange curtain.
Ryan presented him in orange T-shirt...
Coincidence? :-)
Love you film riot. Loved the whole video
Oh man, I thought that class was gonna be a web series for this channel, that would have been great!
Thanks for sharing that with us. Really useful.
Dang that was so on point. Thank you for sharing
YEAH, SUBTEXT!
This was such a great video! I am not a film maker, but as a youtuber I am trying to improve my skill with the camera and shooting a scene (for my videos) and I feel all of what you said is as relevant for a (beginner) youtuber like me as it would be for some of the professional movies makers. Really appreciate your video! Thanks!
Not sure I agree with not controlling how your film is interpreted. I know a lot of filmmakers think of the process as a magic trick. With set up, false trails, a story of emotional ups and downs that finally culminates in a grand crescendo of the climax. Scorsese said that a film should be like a trek up a mountain. A journey that ends with the great peak.
That's the only thing I kind of question here. But this is fantastic. It changed my perception.
This is so juicy.
Soooo good. Thank you once again film riot.
Omg this is so amazing so glad I’m subbed
Thought Alex looked familiar. I saw a talk he did during True False, an amazing person to listen to.
Thanks for the vid, and I would love to know if you have more material on visual subtext more suitable to Screenwriters. I recently did a very detailed analysis of Spotlight (which I would love to share) and was fascinated by the 2nd film inside the actual film, which is about Robby (Michael Keaton). I thought McCarthy's and Singer's approach, transformed the problem into pure art in the simplest of manners, which unsurprisingly made their attempt for secret narrative realistic and successful, without trying at any point, if I recall correctly, to fool or confuse the viewers.
Awesome!! Thanks for posting this
thanks for sharing this. so much good info in a very short video.
Oranges in the Godfather wasn't used to foreshadow death. The set designer literally just want to add some orange color into the shots and used a lot of oranges. It's a common misconception
But it is open to interpretation. Despite what was intended, it's for us to decide what things mean.
Well the oranges were an integral element in the Godfather's death scene. They also appeared in GF2 when Johnny Ola meets Michael in Tahoe, and Michael eats an orange when planning the death of Hyman Roth. When Johnny Ola first enters he presents a gift of an orange from Miami (Hyman Roth), which is definitely intentional, since they have come to assassinate Michael by order of Hyman Roth. Also, before the assassination of Fanucci, he walks the street and picks up what appears to be an orange from a vendor cart. So yeah, I'd say it is an intentional story element, not a haphazard art direction decision. On the GF2 commentary, Coppola explains during the final assassination planning scene with Michael and the orange, that it was something that started out as an afterthought in the first movie, but took on a significance of its own later.
@@aliensoup2420 Stuff really open up along the way. Will take note of this!
Outstanding presentation. Loved it! Didnt know about Starbucks in FC
That was awesome. That guy made it really interesting
Thank you for specifying “Visual” Subtext. I would’ve thought the Text was Invisible
It's called Visual Subtext because it's referring to symbolism for MOVIES and TELEVISION. Subtext in books and novels is not visual because you can't see it. Use your brain.
Woah man das dope. Opened my eyes up to a bunch of ideas. Thanks!
Saving this for reference for my essays.
I hope I can do well.
Wow this is kind of video that us that create any kind of video must have to see!!!
For those who are curious about all the 7 components.
There's a great book called The Visual Story by Bruce Block which goes in depth about all the 7 Visual components that create the visual structure for the film.
I read the thumbnail an thought,"oh cool, I'm gonna learn some new ways to use subtext". 😯😂
Great lesson!
Love this channel!
Love you guys! Notification Squad!
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My notifications *ALWAYS* come late though.
Wah... loads of important points... Thanks Guys
amazing teacher
When he said "it's no longer your film" Mulholland Drive came to mind
Oh man I really needed that.
LOVED this video!
Good filmmakers borrow
Great filmmakers steal
Alejandro Jodorowsky creates
Could u elaborate it? I didnt get it 😊
El Topo still one of my favs
Very good information! Thank you!
Great! Soo, soo helpful ! Thank you, Rian fro showing this content :)
Wow is all I can say, just amazing class!
Phenomenal lecture
Aw yee, my day just got better.
That's a great video. To see the whole thing, I would gladly pay $30. $300? Are you out of your mind?!!
People gotta eat
People gotta eat caviar?! :-)
Craparella Smørrebrød it looks like many of the courses are several hours long so thats not that bad considering what you get
Investments like this pay for themselves many times over when they're put to use
This is really great advice ! Thanks
Super good! Thank you !
This is awesome!