The Storms - The Origins of the Human Torch and the Invisible Woman
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- History of the Marvel Universe No. 270
The Origins of the Human Torch and the Invisible Woman
Johnny and Susan Storm
Sources:
- Fantastic Four 001-006 (1962)
- Fantastic Four 015 (1963)
- Fantastic Four 018 (1963)
- Fantastic Four 027 (1964)
- Fantastic Four 031-032 (1964)
- Fantastic Four Annual 003 (1965)
- Fantastic Four Annual 006 (1968)
- Ghost Rider 077 (1983)
- The Thing 002 (1983)
- Fantastic Four 271 (1984)
- Fantastic Four 284 (1985)
- Fantastic Four 291 (1986)
- Fantastic Four versus the X-Men 002 (1987)
- What If...? 018 (1990)
- Fantastic Four 371 (1992)
- Before the Fantastic Four: The Storms (2000-2001)
- Fantastic Four 520 (2005)
- Fantastic Four: First Family 001 (2006)
- Fantastic Four 543 (2007)
- Secret Invasion: Fantastic Four 002 (2008)
- Fantastic Four 600 (2012)
- Fantastic Four 004 (2013)
- Fantastic Four 005 (2019)
- Fantastic Four 014 (2019)
- Fantastic Four 035 (2021)
The Invisible Woman's Powers
- Fantastic Four 010 (1963)
- Fantastic Four 022 (1964)
- Fantastic Four 029 (1964)
- Fantastic Four 188 (1977)
- Fantastic Four 286 (1986)
- Fantastic Four 002 (1998)
- Fantastic Four 062 (2002)
Human Torch Solo Adventures
- Strange Tales 101-132 (1962-1965)
- Strange Tales Annual 002 (1963)
Additional information from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
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This one is a classic, too bad marvel
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Could you PLEASE DO the Origins and History of BOTH Daredevil and Captain America for me too as well okay @MerryMarvelite.
Do Mr Fantastic next
First Ben Grimm, a.k.a, The Thing, and now Susan Storm, a.k.a., the Invisible Woman and Jonathan Storm, a.k.a, the Human Torch!!!
Out of All the siblings In the In Marvel Comics This one is the one that stands out the most Between Quicksilver And Scarlet Witch Or Black blot or Maximus
All the Quicksilver incest lusting over a sister vibes really ruined those two long before the ultimates. I have no idea what writer was writing that subtext in there, but it was heavy and creepy
Sue and Johnny are a great sibling team. 😀👍
THIS CHANNEL IS 'EXCELSIOR' 👍 ..
I have really come to love these videos that focus on the retconed adventures of our heroes before they became heroes.
Plus you mentioned the Frightful Four, so I'm going to have to ask for a video on THE FRIGHTFUL FOUR.
As always, MAKE MINE THE MERRY MARVELITE!!!!
Of all comics being produced in the 60's and 70's there is no other enormous, entertaining series than the FF. Excellent job. This was the shi@$%^t when I was a kid. Not anymore. Something about the era that was perfectly captured in this book just epitomizes everything I enjoyed about comics 😂❤❤❤
Love the switching back and forth from Kirby to Allred
Oof Why did you use the weird age gap origin with Reed and Sue 😭😭😭😭
Isn't that retconed way back in 2014 in Matt Fractions run??? Besides they're on the same age group originally and the age gap is a retcon in Byrne run
(Its just odd cuz I noticed you used some panels from the 2014 run and never mentioned the revised origin at all)
Oh thank god they retcon it
It was common back in the 60s and it's still common in many parts of Latin America and Europe.
Of course it was John Byrne who wrote that into existence 😭😭😭
The initial 60s stories had Reed and Ben as "college students" who had somehow also served overseas in the military and won several medals (both), played pro ball and acquired a military pilot's license (Ben) and racked up numerous doctorates (Reed)... and yet had *still* just recently graduated when they hooked up with Sue & Johnny (the latter definitely a teenager in high school) for the test flight. Their ages *never* worked.
@@briancurtis6022 I just recently got into FF and from what I've read I'm pretty sure their military background came immediately right after they graduated colleges (it's implied Ben and Reed signed up literally after graduating) so I don't think it's that confusing tbh
Reed having multiple doctorates isn't really shocking either cuz you can just lump it to him being a child prodigy (when Hickman was writing Maker in the OGUltimateU it's said that 616 Reed got 4 doctorates at the age of 14 cuz he's a Nepobaby)
Still though, even if their ages doesn't make sense before, the whole age gap thing is still a retcon that got retconed again, and the recent FF writers acknowledge Matt Fractions retcon of their ages, so technically that's what's canon now
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?
Are you going to do history of Reed Richards as Mr Fantastic and his evil counterpart the Maker along with Herbie the Fantastic Four robot, Franklin Richards and Valeria Richards?
My favorite members of the Fantastic 4 💙🔥
i have 0 faith in the MCU at this point so i just hope we see the 97 tackle a more interesting version of the FF and avengers. i am dreading live action xmen 😂
What do you think Sue_Storm and Johnny Storm would be like if they became a sibling duo Superhero team like Aurora and Northstar?
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This has become one of my must watch favorite channels. I would request you cover Green Goblin, and the Impossible Man. Thanks for the awesome shows!
Now please do the goat doctor Reed Richards
Reed is great, the ff are my favorite marvel team
Don't forget his evil counterpart the Maker
Are Franklin Richards and his sister Valeria Richards going to be done after him?
@@quentinfogger5755 I hope so
Fun fact: Reed Richards powers are directly inspired by plastic man, as Stan Lee said in an interview: "I liked Plastic Man. That's a great power, and nobody is using it so I gave Reed Richards Plastic Man's power". For context at the time Plastic Man was a Quality Comics character and by the 1960's Quality was a defunct company, which meant Plastic Man was no longer published.
Do part 2 please 🙏🏿
So when are you going to do history of Zora_Vukovic Victorious since you did the history of Dr_Doom?
Can you do history of Ironheart, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Arno_Stark Iron Man, Squirrel_Girl, Constrictor, Deathlok, Amadeus_Cho, the Griever, Pepper Potts AKA Rescue and the Agents of Atlas along with Crescent, Morgan_Le_Fey, White Fox and Luna Snow?
please make a other video on them and one on the susan's son and daughter
Can you do one on Cassandra Nova, the big bad for Deadpool and Wolverine?
Can you do history of the Living_Brain, the Elementals, Cyclone, Hydro Man, Molten Man, Puck, Ahab, Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Noh-Varr Marvel_Boy, Starbrand, Nightmask, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
What do you think Sue Storm and Johnny Storm would be like if their dad never went to prison and got to grow up with him? Who could believe that the powerful Franklin Richards is named after him? Can you do history of Franklin Richards?
Great series! My topic suggestion: Moonstone (Dr. Karla Sofen), who has a very complex history.
Great video 👍🏿
Wait, one of them isn’t adopted by a black professor that we need to spend 30mins of runtime on? Well you all have gone too far. This is NOT the Fant4stic 4stic that *i* grew up on. 🙄
Love the video but I'm never gonna be a fan of Reed and Sue meeting while she was a kid lol
As always
My favorite Johnny relationship will forever be Akihiro Howlett. 🤭
What do you think is the best thing about Sue_Storm the Invisible Woman and Johnny Storm The_Human_Torch in the comics? Which one of their powers and abilities do you think is the best?
Wish they were family 😊
Do Mr Fantastic next
The reason why I Love the fantastic Four is because there the first superhero team to have there identities Known to the world And they don't were Mask's
Are you going to do history of lesser known characters like Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Ultimo, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Flerken, Blacklash, Deathlok, Elematrix, Vertigo, Ahab, Orb, Speed freak, Masked Raider, Red_Wolf, Tarantula, Forge, Bishop, Lilandra, Death bird, Titanium_Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dreadknight, Deathcry, Kobik AKA the Cosmic Cube, Blizzard, Avril Kincaid Quasar, Starbrand, Nightmask, Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Starhawk, Fixer, Whirlwind, Chemistro, Whiplash, the Controller, Madam_Masque, Count_Nefaria, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
Which Movie or TV Shows do you think did a great job in portraying the Sue Storm and Johnny Storm? Which live action version of them like Jessica Alba and Chris Evans or Kate Mara and Michael B Jordan do you think is the best also what do you think Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn are going to play them in the MCU?
Can you do history of the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr), Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Night Nurse, Lilandra, Death bird, Lady-Lotus, Sundragon and Phyla_Vell along with the Supreme Intelligence, Puppet_Master, Diablo, Mole_Man and Angel Salvador/Tempest along with Exodus and Ex-Nhilo?
Ooooo I hope you cover Lyja. :D
Which one of the powers of the siblings do you think is the best? What would happen if the Fantastic Four each had the powers to control the elements with Johnny Storm already having Fire powers, Do you think Sue Storm should have water powers to go with her invisibility and force field abilities?
What was up with Sue_Storm having better luck with romance after officially being a couple with Reed Richards while Johnny Storm being a hopeless romantic after being in relationships with so many people?
I think they will have elements of their origin in the new fantastic four movie next year
There being a Ghost Rider before Johnny Blaze makes no sense. The motorcycle motif was an extension of the host's (in that case, Blaze) personality. If he'd been a horseman, he'd have been given a demonic steed; if a pilot, then inferno based flight and so on. But a demon motorcycle enthusiast who coincidentally possessed a motorcycle stuntman? Please.
You must be fun at parties.
Who do you think is the best love interest for Johnny Storm The_Human_Torch between Frankie Raye Nova, Lyja, Zsaji, Kaila, Kourtney Keaton and Doris Evans if the comic writers didn't make him screw up with them? Do you think he would have better luck with one of them in the MCU?
Can you do history of all of them?
Can you do history of S'ym, Shroud, Master Pandemonium, Sleepwalker, D'Spayre, Lilith, Chthon, Mephisto, Black heart, Dormammu, Doyle Dormammu, Clea, Nightmare and Pkzkrfmknna along with Crystal, Magma and Vance_Astrovik AKA Justice?
What was up with Reed Richards being a couple of years older than Sue Storm but despite that they ended up being a couple?
Do Daredevil!
Do Stick and the Chase!
Do Gladiator!
Do Doctor Strange!
Do Dormammu!
Are you going to do history of Ironheart, M'Baku, Namora, Attuma and Shuri as the Black Panther since they played a major role in the Black Panther Wakanda Forever movie?
What are there middle name
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Sue raised Johnny?
Let me guess, is Reed next?
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It's a shame that the current up-and-coming live-action film is just going to fail miserably
How do you know?
Hold on a second!? Susan Storm is seven years younger than Reed Richards!? Holy-! And I thought I was a fan of Marvel!
That's shocking since it didn't look like that in the movies and TV Shows
They retconed the age gap in Fantastic four (2014), Reed and Sue are the same age now when they met in her aunt's boarding house!!!!
Also keep in mind that the age gap IS A RETCON during John Byrnes Fantastic four run, Originally (in Lee/Kirby run) Reed and Sue are the same age and are childhood neighbors
@@JeiCat-zg3iq Thanks for the clarification
1st lol
I have never 👎 liked the fantastic four they’re already Susan has issues and I thought Jonny was bad never knew she was so mean to Ben no wonder he act like he act he even a bigger hothead than Jonny the thing is half as strong as the hulk I am aware how powerful Susan gotten
I hate when they make Sue Storms an ungrateful housewife.
Let's just agree on one thing, Invisible Woman and Mr.Fantastics wedding was a terrible mistake! There's no way I'm ever gonna believe Mr.Fantastic is the smartest person in the marvel universe!
Street smart versus book smart. He is a genius idiot.