Have Web Developers Become Obsolete? AI & GPT4
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
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In this thought-provoking video, we explore the impact of AI language models like ChatGPT on the future of coding and web development. As artificial intelligence advances rapidly, many people, including myself, have started to worry about its potential to replace human web developers. Will learning how to code become a thing of the past?
Join me as I delve into the limitations and capabilities of AI and automation, and discuss the evolving role of software developers. We'll consider the importance of human creativity, problem-solving skills, and the continuous need for developers who can adapt to new programming languages, tools, and frameworks.
Together, let's examine whether AI advancements are a threat to web developers or if they can coexist, creating a more efficient and innovative future for the world of technology. Don't miss out on this eye-opening conversation about the fascinating interplay between AI and the future of web development. Subscribe now and join the discussion!
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I resisted chat gpt for the longest time, but now I'm embracing it. Use it to your advantage just like being able to use Google has been a massive advantage in order to find solutions quickly, as a dev you spend a lot of time searching and finding solutions and being good at knowing how to search for something to resolve an issue. Getting good at using AI will make companies pay you even more. Yes some will be paid less and some will lose their jobs but that is just part of the life cycle. Important is also to not overestimate Chat GPT, as you said.. you need to know some code to use Chat GPT to make you better and you also need to know that Chat GPT isn't always right and to spot that you need to learn to understand what you are doing and you need to learn to debug code with the help Chat GPT.. anyway.. great video!
The one thing people have to understand is the energy and technical costs it would take to implement this on as wide of a scale as people are afraid of. There are offices I've worked in where people still don't know how to use excel, and currently GPT-4 consumes a massive amount of energy and water to run. There is no way that most jobs will have the infrastructure in place to deploy LLMs in the work place.
Man AI is extremely discouraging for someone deciding to learn code now
I was in the middle of learning and this chatgpt turned me off completely.
I don’t think it’ll ever get to a point where it can design a website like a human can. Maybe a basic website or program, but nothing like an actual usable business website.
@@NIXNEBrother don't get discourage. Just keep learning
@@chidiebereomasi thank you for the kind words
@@NIXNEthanks man😊
Chatgpt basically came into the development world to basically level up jr developers to become comfortable with coding language and speed up the productivity much faster search to answer for mid/senior devs. Period. 😏 Also, Chris made a very good point about one’s that already a developer will come a time with jobs that’ll ask as a requirement to know chatgpt to help with productivity and fast turn arounds on getting features and functionality done.
However will chatgpt cause the number of programming jobs to go down?
@@AmandeepKaur-eq6iv I'm not exactly sure. I think you would have to search on Google for that answer, but from knowing how Chat gpt works. I would imagine it would make alot of people's jobs easier, such as developers as well as teachers and writers. I think anyone that is looking to have questions to be answered or anything that needs to be written from a college paper to writing a book. But, these are my opinions on the AI.
@@AmandeepKaur-eq6iv Yes, technologies such as ChatGPT will make the number of programming jobs drop significantly. It will also considerably bar entry of new and low skill/experience programmers as well from progressing or remaining in the industry creating a stark divide, or in essence a massive filter weeding out the majority from maturing/remaining in the industry contrary to what people try to sell you.
The issue is that ChatGPT vastly undercuts the amount of time and manpower for programming projects despite being so new progressing at a rate far exceeding what the industry expected. The bottom line of any business is money and this is true for any industry. When they can significantly reduce man hours and other costs then they will and this type of technology is the definition of such an accomplishment taken to the absolute peak and it will only mature becoming increasingly competent over time until it starts to eat away at even Sr programming positions in significant number.
In fact, even in the short term we're going to start seeing a lot more accessibility for the majority of basic websites that require little to zero programming skill. It will be primarily the more complex projects that will need to maintain competent higher level programmers that will utilize these technologies to cleave away at workforce and assist in their own work. Again, eventually this technology will be primed to start eating away at even these higher level positions as it becomes more competent. This is just the fact and anyone saying otherwise is either in denial or suffers basic understanding of what this technology is already shown capable of and its growth trend/possibilities.
This is only one side. Another element to consider is technologies such as Google's new AI based search engine that feeds an answer / single result rather than lists and has raised concern it could significantly harm or kill off majority of small businesses because people simply will not discover and visit their website due to how the new search technology would work as it caters to large established and capable businesses. This will further impact programming jobs in the web development industry.
In fact, the only programming jobs really truly safe are going to be certain academic and video game programming due to the way video programming works being much more abstract and often case by case hacked together code, logic, or matters of different types of optimizations outside the norm that AI would need to be far more competent at to properly implement. Granted, even this could suffer if we see significant growth in processing power from emerging technology such as graphene processors and reduction in resource needs for LLM based tech.
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Hey Chris. I used to follow your channel closely in 2017 while I was learning code. I think I remember you had just gotten your first job as a junior developer. The difference between us is I stopped coding and you kept at it. It's pretty cool seeing that you have become as successful as you have. I'm thinking of self-teaching code again but when I found out about ChatGPT I thought "oh no, it's over". But it makes sense that it could actually help more novice developers. Then I hear about people applying for 100s of jobs and not getting a single interview. Not really sure at this point.
I'm just about to learn coding , and now AI takes over everything. :D
Just like graphic design the market for developers will become over saturated by ai, matter of 5-10 yesrs. For seniors like him its all good. For juniors harder to find a good stable thing and they will pay you less. Funny how all these devs on youtube tell us to become devs, sell us courses and make vids on youtube to make money. If I was really well of my dev job I would just relax and enjoy, not do all of this
Right? Like is the grass really green over there or?
If one believes that Generative AI / LLMs can replace software engineers, then either one doesn't understand software engineering / custom software development OR one doesn't understand how LLMs work.
That's true. As a matter of fact, non tech people are a great contribution to the overhyped AI fear.
In short, you don't understand how generative AI and LLMs work because you don't recognize there is no scientific basis for the belief AI cannot reach a point of competency to perform those tasks better than software engineers. The only programming fields that are currently more distant exceptions, but will also eventually be breached, are video game programming because of the shortcuts and nuances of unusual physics and AI representation and various hacky coding methods as well as simulation which is strictly too complex for current AI and forward thinking which would require an AI capable of much greater freedom of thinking and self action to develop completely new diverse code and concepts.
@@markis6424 Thank you for this beautiful rant but software engineering is much more than mere programming. But hey, do continue to ride your bandwagon of *AI bla bla*
@@assadbintahir Actually, you were the one ranting at everyone else. You then provided a factually inaccurate statement because you don't know what you are talking about and when disputed with valid reasoning and even giving you the chance to argue back and cite examples you failed to refute insulting me proving my point about your ignorance. As for your weak argument about software engineering being more than "mere programming" you realize one of the core advantages of this technology is to allow non-programmers to perform non-programming tasks while the AI handles the programming part, correct? Further, when AI can handle the programming aspect that might normally take a single project an entire team of people and still take 9-12 months and then also require a team to maintain it for following years the AI can accomplish the same goal in mere minutes and also makes code maintenance extremely easy with a developed code base and only takes a single person. That one person can then perform the equivalent high level secretarial / concept tasks while the AI handles the programming for hundreds of projects in that same time frame that would take tens of thousands of employees and many months per team for the equivalent work load. You are clueless.
@@markis6424 I agree with the part of your argument that the time comes in the end when AI can nearly perfectly take jobs out of human programmers someday. But it isn't likely the very near future. It may take a couple more decades for an AI to break into the world as capable as human developers in terms of the very human abilities: understanding, aweareness, intuition, and initiative. It's next to impossible now to perfectly replace human developers for building a wholely customized system and complex integrated applications well functioning as a whole.
I beleieve singularity will come at some point for sure, but it will definitely need time and a total new paradigm of AI system vesus the current ML based AI which will get a platoue soon in its dramatic improvement after some time with the limited high quality data (for feeding) and limited hardware (processing power)
Nah, it won't replace developers - yet. It will in like 15-20 years but not any time soon. Software Engineering jobs will be dead last in terms of automation.
However, ALL other jobs out there (white collar, blue collar) will be automated within the next 3-4 years I predict. This is when chaos will ensue on a global scale and it's shocking how nobody's talking about this. It's actually frightening.
blue collar? no lol. Blue collar is going to be where all the money is soon. LLM's will be accountants and paralegals decades before they power physical robots that can successfully replace electricians, plumbers, HVAC techs, etc. fully.
AI experts and prodigy coders will be in more demand than ever but expect massive layoffs for Jr devs and programmers sooner than you think. Until robotics catches up to AI , many jobs will be safe, from floor nurses to plumbers.
Incredibly massive cope to think that human to human relation related jobs and mangament, and especially blue collar will be automated before software engineering LMFAO
I listened to Sam Altman's video with Lex. He specifically said that chatgpt will increase the need for developers.
in what part of the video was that ?
@@codyt_arsis6698 said it very very loud and clear here.
ua-cam.com/video/qof80Sy3__8/v-deo.html
@@codyt_arsis6698 in that part of the video
@@Question-yv2ui where exactly in the video?
@@codyt_arsis6698 that exact part in the video
hey chris what was this podcast you are referring to with the 1x engineer ???
Well , ChatGPT is trained on all the information in the internet that we are already using and accessing either ways, isnt't it. I mean we can find answers to most of our problems in StackOverflow or the tech documentation. This information is also accessible for all other non-tech people out there, but they are not using it to build their apps and websites. There are some things that are easy to make with the model, but if you need to make a complex app or feature you will need to write so much text and check it and correct and check again, that I believe it will be a lot faster and easier to just write it with code. I agree with you, I believe this will be a tool , not a replacement.
Thank yo so much for your pointers
I think one thing that is definite, is that is will not make developers obsolete but will increase the productivity of developers so much so that it will drastically reduce the amount of developers needed. I don’t think it’s fair to even compare GPT to google, it seems to be in its own class of technology. Imo.
When calculators were invented to automate mathematical tasks, did that mean that mathematicians would cease to exist? Apparently, NO. DevOps engineers have been developing automation tools for their tasks but the job market demand for DevOps engineers keeps skyrocketing. So, what makes people worry more about AI instead of capitalising on what really matters in Tech?
because we are talking about intelligence
@@xrhstosskylias3769 Are mathematicians and developers not intelligent enough to operate the automation tools they developed themselves?
@@georgebaraza9141 the future will show
nice video, for some reason UA-cam hasn't recommended me any of your latest videos. I always need to search directly for your videos.
I am very new to web development. Only done html and css, so no programming language yet and I can agree that you still need to know programming to be able to ask chat gpt proper questions. Imagine someone that has no knowledge of web development at all and needs a website. This person will be looking for someone who will be able to do that for him, even if it is asking chat gpt to do that. People not in the industry will have no clue how to. If it comes to the stage when a person with zero web knowledge will be able to build a whole, well functioning complicated website by simply asking: build me a webstie with this, this and this, then it might become a problem, but i doubt it. They won't know the proper terminology, so how will they be able to tell chat gpt what to do?
Even in data science it’s helpful whether coding in python, or uploading a small dataset and running analytics
ChatGPT will just be a tool that helps us. Just how Google has been a tool that helped us.
That what I was thinking
If you ask a question in your language in dialect google will translate it wrong but chat gpt 4 will answer it correctly like it’s nothing sooo u can’t compare both
are you okay@@karimkhan7552
Hey Chris, whats your opinion on Codecademy? i am a frontend dev student. and I am now taking their frontend career path. after that am thinking about taking their backend path too
just made a video about this too! it's definitely exciting times ...i agree it's been super helpful for me as well and we'll learn to adapt to become better!
i’m trying my hardest to get into the tech industry, learn how company software architecture functions as a whole and use that in conjunction to get my own business
Hi Chris, can i ask you to make a new video updated with the AI/AGI of today ? with the Devin (Software engineer AI) and the power of the NVIDIA Chips usefull for the AGI ? Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
Amazing 👌🏼
The OpenAI founder could say whatever, but GPT exists _because of_ human knowledge so 🤷🏾♀️
Boss I respect you, I wanna be just like you.
It's the same thing with WordPress all over again. Everyone was worried that it was going to replace developers. Now, it's just a tool for developers to get their work done faster. We're fine. ChatGPT is going to make our jobs easier. It'll do the bulk, and then we go in and tweek it to our liking.
But will it reduce demand? It is already hard enough to land an entry level programming job as is.
@@cptndunsel2670 I don't know if it'll reduce demand, but landing an entry level developer job is always the hardest part.
That part of the market is oversaturated with applicants with the possiblity of 3 different backgrounds (self-taught, bootcamps, and universities). Dylan Isreal touched on this years ago and this issue hasn't gone away.
@@cptndunsel2670I guess entry level positions of development has been tough and difficult all the time but the thing is it was extremely easier during the covid period (2020 - 2022) with the global shortage of developers and programmers. So you might feel harder compared to the gone easy time.
Which means as a developer. you will be called the generalist. The dev who does almost everything lol from product management, to design, to production. And don't forget, QA! That also will be automated lol
You are awesome Crhis! :)
I did a project with my friends using chatgpt
Reversible computation is the future.
"will it replace us? probably eventually. but I really don't think so"
Bro make up your mind, what is this? Also you said you can see it lowering wages but that doesn't matter because it will make you a better developer? what lmao
Yeh he’s just feeding the algorithm. Ai is a hot topic for UA-camrs. That’s the only reason he made this pointless video
Learning to code and technology years ago I thought was the best thing I ever did. Now I feel like it was the worst decision I made. If you’re just starting our learning consider yourself extremely lucky you didn’t go all the way and learn everything like I did . It was a nightmare even if there wasn’t ai. But this is icing on the cake. Learning tech that is obsolete and then having to learn new tech because it’s constantly changing and then in the end it’s all useless. Lmao . Literally torture.
Also can I get a job at 19, I've finished my course and I'm designing my portfolio
I see also that making your life easier , But absoltly salaries will go down and the number for devoplers in each compeny will decrease , So that my view i am not sure if i am correct but any way , Thank you for this amazing video!
We shall see. I rejected an offer for 240k base and another recruiter reaching out to me sharing they can pay 230k base lol.
I think the following years things will happen in this order: 1) Developers use AI as a tool, and the industry doesn't run out of jobs 2)AI keeps improving until an AI able to replace a programmer appears, but it's too expensive and complex as to be incorporated by companies like to be able to say that programmers were completely replaced 3) AI gets optimized and produced massively and is utilized by companies which leads to downsizing and slimmer jobs. At this point the most demanded field in programming will be machine learning due to its relationship with AI.
and how long do you think this would take?
By your take, not even the ML jobs are safe because AI can create another AI and train it to basically replace you
@@keshudana4647 #1 is currently in the process as AI supplements programming jobs as a boost for the overall industry though many major companies are already downsizing programmers due to this very tech (#3) allowing for far more efficiency and great reduction of manpower. #2 is already beginning to unfold due to the fact that services that create simpler websites via AI in seconds to minutes already exists with zero to little programming skill cutting weeks and months long projects down to hours or days, or less.
As an example of another industry, a recent study concluded: "The cost of GPT-4, the latest version of the LLM developed by US start-up OpenAI is only 0.45 per cent of hiring a senior data analyst, study finds" Another study extended on this pointing out that it could do this very task in a mere fraction of the time, too. In fact, such tech is already being used to develop new medicines, chemical and material advances, and of course is already rapidly being integrated into programming via plugins and various projects.
Not only programmers. If AI reaches to such a advanced level that it can replace programmers, then 90% of jobs are screwed. Not just the programming field
AI will end up being a tool to be used by humans for good or otherwise. It wjll need more human brains to control it,hence the need for new kind of software engineers. New breed
Impossible humans are the most Advanced species since the creation of time
I am reminded of a qoute. "Darwin doesn't take sides." Just because we are on top of the food chain today, doesn't mean we always will be.
Just means our value will decrease substantially
I love how these idiot ML developers have essentially ensured that all other developers are about to be paid much, much less lol. Fuck those guys.
I think developers will just be expected to do what UIPATH does
Why there is so mutch work in web development? There are even free tools to make websites without code.
Isn't amazon just a online store, a video streaming and that AWS with cloud services? why is it a big tech company that requires hundreds of people making code and seems that nothing change in theyr store or streaming? i dont know mutch on cloud
If that is true, that kids are learning to ask GPT to create code to make something, i'm afraid that in the future, we will not have developers, we will have askers. I'm not saying that Chat GPT will replace developers, but they will not exist anymore in the future. Kids will grow and ask GPT to code in better words and get better responces from a updated and improved GPT making better websites than what we can create in those free website creators, because that is what web developers do right? to create better sites than those free tools can.
Abit upsetting if your gonna have a lower income tho:( .. still sort of fun with coding.
Hi, Chris can you be my mentor🙂
robots need the programmer to run :D like kids need their parents to learn to walk
dude wanted to cry whole vid and i wanted to cry w/ him
Ai jobloss? This won’t end well. Can we please ceaseAi -GPT? Or at least consider pausingAi?
hey man you look like you have bilateral ptosis. i noticed bc i have it too. have you ever considered getting ptosis surgery?
Interesting. My doctors haven’t told me anything but I’ll have it checked out. Is it bad?
App makers are we joke to you ?
that chatgpt description though 💀
Lmao
This guy is to cute (naive) lol
In 5 - 10 years there won't be almost any coders left. We will simply tell AI what we want to build and it will build it for us. It is already possible but on a much more limited and smaller scale. But in the future there won't be any programmers but everyone will be a "developer".
There will always be programmers who will need to understand the fundamentals. When an architect builds a house, he won't actually be hands-on, but he still needs to understand how everything works from an engineer perspective. When car came out, they said horses will die out. When the radio came out, they said books and newspapers will die out. When the TV came out they said books and cinemas will die out. When the internet came out, they said all mail (on paper) and all form of information on paper such as books, newspaper, flyers etc. will die out. When the iPhone and then the iPad came out, they said all laptops will die out. When Final Fantasy the movie came out in early 2000s, they said it's the end for actors and everything will be 100% animated.
Nothing ever got fully replaced. New technology simply scales back an industry that is currently dominating a market.
"never got fully replaced", but horses for transport, radio, newspapers, magazines sure got hammered.
@@naseemakbar775 Indeed they did. Horses for transportation is probably the most extreme example on how an industry can radically change. But like I said, when an architect builds a house, he won't actually be hands-on, but he still needs to understand how everything works from an engineer perspective. That is why even if an AI can write the code for you, you will still need a solid understanding of what is going on. Meaning, we still need to learn to program. A company that now employs 100 programmers might only need 10 due to their productivity increase by AI.
@@Hobbitstomper Right...but again, what happens when technology advances mor exponentially due to ai? What happens when what takes 100 programmers takes 10 in 5 years, and then what takes 10 developers takes 1after another 3 years?....
@@donaldbowler4514 bro, first thing: we'll all be long dead by then and people probably will be androids so :D just chill and enjoy the ride
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