It USED to be a leisurely sport but now people worry about their dupr rating, winning plastic medals, and trying to go pro because they failed in pro tennis.
Got a Sweet Spot Pro and The Banger. The Sweet Stop Pro is outstanding. Great feel, lots of power, and tremendous value. Have not tried The Banger yet. The Sweet Stop Pro is that good.
Id be more down with pickle ball if in the past 2 months ive been asked by a group a pickle players things like “why would i play tennis” “am i ever upset i have a tennis raquet and not a pickleball paddle”. Also they blast music in my era. Whats with this?
In order to limit the bangers advantage there are only so many levels that can be pulled on. e the coefficient of restitution can be limited on the ball or the paddle/face (they already do this for paddles and balls) d the drag coefficient can be increased on the ball (again i think this is already done) IMO, USPA could increase the net height by .5 - 1 inch and decrease the drag of the ball. This would actually increase the speed, but decrease the effect spin has on the ball which would make mid court banging much more difficult to actually get in. the dominant strategy would be getting out of the way, but may temporarily increase the likelihood to be bagged. The more i think about it net height with an RPM top end would probably be the best. The tournament nets arent permanent anyway, and i guarantee an adapter could be made for the permanent nets that already exist.
Gearbox announce today they're releasing the Pro Power Ultimate in January to replace the Pro Power Elongated, along with an assistance program for players who bought the Elongated
So a paddle that’s been on the market for over a year approved and paid $275 for now I should stop using it in rec play because a company Now decides it’s too powerful? The gearbox is powerful but you lose a lot of control by using it and that’s why except for few pros they don’t use it.
Who cares. If you suck. The best paddle in the world won't help you. I'm playing a paddle I bought for 30 bucks and I can't seem to lose with this alleged junk. Has very little real power but the control is off the charts. I can develop my own power when I need it. The pros deserve to be like gladiators. They get paid for what most of us do for fun.
@@kabob21 not sure where you’re from but in NY when the Gen 3 Joolas got banned people were berated and guilted into not playing with the fire rec play
The ovation isn’t even a power paddle, and has a really small sweet spot. I like it for its maneuverability and precision. My game is finesse, not power. Really disappointed about this.
All they need to do is to limit the speed. The ball can be hit with a certain amount of force. They need to come up with some very strict rules using scientific methodology. Then he manufactures a one year heads up. But it seems like they are unable to stay ahead of the curve. They’re always playing catch-up. I’m sure there’s a mechanical engineer that could help the governing bodies out. Or let’s just go back to wood. That’s what they do in baseball.
Most refer to kevlar as "dwell" paddles as the ball stays on the face longer. Another term used for kevlar paddles is "plush" because of the dwell time. I like kevlar for me because it helps controlling drops and resets. You lose a little power in the trade off, but I hit the ball fairly hard so I don't mind the trade off. If you want more control, kevlar can be a good choice. If you want power stick with carbon fiber. Just my opinion. Best of luck!
@AC-im4hi that doesn't explain why it is a terrible idea. The kitchen was set up to limit the power game from the beginning. Extending it changes angles, opens resets, and adds time and space for reaction.
Today's tennis rackets are hugely more powerful than those of times past. Has that made tennis a less interesting game, or has the sport evolved to compensate? There's usually a trade-off between power and control, so I'm just not sure that PB needs to regulate innovation to such an extent...
100 percent. Of course this was going to happen in PB...duh . Just like when poly strings entered the game and graphite open throated frames hit tennis. PB as a sport will either adapt or become extremely one dimensional.
I feel like I need a list of videos, but in order. There’s so much stuff on the Internet that I get overwhelmed and choose the wrong video for my skill set. Someone needs to put a catalogue together in order of things to learn and develop
Use this guy's videos. He offers technique improvements as well as explaining exactly the whens and whys. I view him as a 3.5 to 4.0 for athletic players that can progress to 4.5 and 5.0 levels. If you are not concerned about the importance of footwork, shot selection, and technique, then these videos won't help.
Weird times in PB , everyone has the same access to paddles , so people can choose to keep up with the power. I don’t wanna hear pros complain about it , you’re a pro deal or play rec. At the rec level it’s mostly free points because people aren’t good enough to take advantage of the power productively, often is a liability if anything.
With my paddle in 2016 I could spin the ball sideways 2 ft and break balls. When starting I asked the third shot drop. Coming from a Badminton Background I could generate power to clear from one end to the other and smash at 150mph. Every other racket sport, the person who could hit hard, accurate and maintain a fast pace would win. Placement won at intermediate levels.
I can take the best drop shot and wack the best pro right in the forehead. Dinners do not stand a chance against me as I've mastered spin. That's what 60 years of being a spin doctor in tennis can do for you. I ca create spin in every direction. I play 4.5 to 5.0 players and they can't return my serve playing pickleball. I sometimes win all the points with my serve. I say they should ban any spin in pickleball. No spin on your serve, no spin on your lobs, no spin on your drop shots. I play big power hitters all the time and it has very little effect against me. If there was no doubles in pickleball, the sport would be dead in I week as most pickleball is played doubles. It's funny how tennis players who don't play pickleball always show the clip of doubles pickleball players doing their dink shots in defense of how hard tennis is compared to pickleball. I recently played a college tennis player singles pickleball and and ran that poor fool all over the place and easily beat him. He now has some respect for pickleball.
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"the way its supposed to be played", maybe you like slow minute long dinking rally's at the net but that style of play is boring and massively favours players with hand eye coordination above all. Both athleticism and power are other facets of the game that something can lean on, that is arguably much more interesting and engaging. Pickleball is changing mate, deal with it haha
@ Haha of course I am! But I know what style of play I prefer and it works for me with my strengths. People play different ways I guess. All that matters is the scoreboard
Why is having a better paddle and unfair advantage? Are we just going to ban any paddle that is outside of our norm? Maybe we should stop regulating our paddles until we have found the best performing and most durable paddles we can and then paddle companies can start basing their paddles off of that technology.
Self-imposed technological limitations exist in all racket-sports, tennis included. Making the best paddle / racket within those regulations is what manufacturers should aim for, but the regulations are there to uphold the essence and integrity of the sport.
Cmon if you are a pro you should be able to figure out how to handle the power….tennis is 50 percent faster than in the past and they don’t change the rules
Imagine if they throttled tennis racket technology because they liked a "slower" game. Get with the times. Nobody wants to play tennis with a wooden racket anymore and nobody wants their paddles throttled either.
Ridiculous nonsense. Every single sport has requirements and parameters their equipment must meet. You know, like how you can't cork your bat in baseball or deflate the football Ala NE Patriots.
@russbilderback those rules are to prevent unfair advantage because a bat that hits farther or a football easier to catch are unequivocal advantages. However, they're trying to control the STYLE of the game with these restrictions. They've said it in their own writings that they want to encourage "finesse". Improved paddle technology can likely make you hit harder, but that isn't necessarily an unequivocal advantage if you don't have skill. No. This is Orwellian. Down with the USAP paddle regulations!!!!
@@benowulf So if the bat hits farther you don't change the style of the game? Imagine you could make a bat that would hit 2 times more powerfull then the ones in use today, wouldn't that change the style of game? And if you deflate the ball or make it from a different material you won't change the style? How about instead of having air inside to have some kind of foam or making it a bit heavier, isn't going to change the style of the game?
So glad Mod is getting banned, 90% of the people using it have no idea how to play the game and just bang, literally every 4.0-4.5 players with mod are 3.0-3.5 without it
The ovation isn’t even a power paddle, and has a really small sweet spot. I like it for its maneuverability and precision. My game is finesse, not power. Really disappointed about this.
It USED to be a leisurely sport but now people worry about their dupr rating, winning plastic medals, and trying to go pro because they failed in pro tennis.
True, but I found out often the ping pong players are more successful than Tennis players at least in my area LOL
@@rafaltyszlerits also because the effort about 1/50th the effort of tennis, and probably better off playing ping pong for exercise
@@rafaltyszler ping pong official name is table tennis, pickleball is pingpong on ground
This music reminds me of a UFO conspiracy theory documentary
Making an intro appearance let’s gooo
Lol make everyone use bare wood paddles. That's the only way hahaha
Honestly a legacy tournament with a standard wood paddle would be interesting to watch
I was thinking the same thing, it WOOD be so cool... Seriously though paddles WOOD be so much cheaper too...
@@40mmmikemike And more sustainable too.
I would just make everyone use the exact same paddle. That would level the playing field.
Got a Sweet Spot Pro and The Banger. The Sweet Stop Pro is outstanding. Great feel, lots of power, and tremendous value. Have not tried The Banger yet. The Sweet Stop Pro is that good.
Let me know what you think about the new paddle bans👇
I think I’ve seem LVL99 Banger making the rounds at my home courts! 😂
When you can, plz expand on high percentage shots (concepts) in PB
Id be more down with pickle ball if in the past 2 months ive been asked by a group a pickle players things like “why would i play tennis” “am i ever upset i have a tennis raquet and not a pickleball paddle”. Also they blast music in my era. Whats with this?
Racket sports should make a competition standard rackets for tournaments
In order to limit the bangers advantage there are only so many levels that can be pulled on.
e the coefficient of restitution can be limited on the ball or the paddle/face (they already do this for paddles and balls)
d the drag coefficient can be increased on the ball (again i think this is already done)
IMO, USPA could increase the net height by .5 - 1 inch and decrease the drag of the ball. This would actually increase the speed, but decrease the effect spin has on the ball which would make mid court banging much more difficult to actually get in. the dominant strategy would be getting out of the way, but may temporarily increase the likelihood to be bagged.
The more i think about it net height with an RPM top end would probably be the best. The tournament nets arent permanent anyway, and i guarantee an adapter could be made for the permanent nets that already exist.
Gearbox announce today they're releasing the Pro Power Ultimate in January to replace the Pro Power Elongated, along with an assistance program for players who bought the Elongated
@kylepickleball Do you know where I can find more info on this? I just checked their site but couldn't find anything.
@@franknguyen7988 I posted the email earlier but it may have been deleted because it contains a link
I got an email from Gearbox but info is on their website @@franknguyen7988
@@franknguyen7988same
How can Canadians get the Banger paddle?
you can order it on enhancepickleball.com
what about the Gamma chuck ball?
Everyone knows that the weapon doesn’t make the man.
Raise the height of the net.
So a paddle that’s been on the market for over a year approved and paid $275 for now I should stop using it in rec play because a company Now decides it’s too powerful? The gearbox is powerful but you lose a lot of control by using it and that’s why except for few pros they don’t use it.
pros dont use it bc they have sponsorships
It’s only going to be banned for USAP sanctioned tournaments. In rec you can play w a delisted paddle to your heart’s content
Who cares. If you suck. The best paddle in the world won't help you. I'm playing a paddle I bought for 30 bucks and I can't seem to lose with this alleged junk. Has very little real power but the control is off the charts. I can develop my own power when I need it. The pros deserve to be like gladiators. They get paid for what most of us do for fun.
@@kabob21 not sure where you’re from but in NY when the Gen 3 Joolas got banned people were berated and guilted into not playing with the fire rec play
@@fishy7381as it should be. A paddle should either be legal for All levels, or illegal period.
The APP came before the PPA. The PPA just copied the APP and then made their own rules up and is now ruining the pro game
Wow... these comments are a bit... um.. "uneducated"
What do you mean?
If your aren't good at both sports, you don't know what you are talking about.
The ovation isn’t even a power paddle, and has a really small sweet spot. I like it for its maneuverability and precision. My game is finesse, not power. Really disappointed about this.
Is the banger safe?
Yes it is
0:11 Never trust anyone who uses the word, “plethora”. They aren’t your friend.
All they need to do is to limit the speed. The ball can be hit with a certain amount of force. They need to come up with some very strict rules using scientific methodology. Then he manufactures a one year heads up. But it seems like they are unable to stay ahead of the curve. They’re always playing catch-up. I’m sure there’s a mechanical engineer that could help the governing bodies out. Or let’s just go back to wood. That’s what they do in baseball.
That WOOD be cool.
Is a Kevlar paddle good for pickleball?
Most refer to kevlar as "dwell" paddles as the ball stays on the face longer. Another term used for kevlar paddles is "plush" because of the dwell time. I like kevlar for me because it helps controlling drops and resets. You lose a little power in the trade off, but I hit the ball fairly hard so I don't mind the trade off. If you want more control, kevlar can be a good choice. If you want power stick with carbon fiber. Just my opinion. Best of luck!
sucks, i had just bought the black ace xf in nov... hoping the company has some type of exchange/refund for this
I own the paddle as well and this makes me very sad
They haven’t made any announcement yet but their paddles are already on sale with huge discounts. I also own a Black Ace Ovation for just a month.
Move kitchen line back a foot.
Terrible idea. Even if you could wave a magic wand and make every park repaint their courts overnight
@AC-im4hi that doesn't explain why it is a terrible idea. The kitchen was set up to limit the power game from the beginning. Extending it changes angles, opens resets, and adds time and space for reaction.
@@AC-im4hi Terrible straw man non sequitur.
@@vanillaghettoLOL
@@AC-im4hi why do people like you exist?
Today's tennis rackets are hugely more powerful than those of times past. Has that made tennis a less interesting game, or has the sport evolved to compensate? There's usually a trade-off between power and control, so I'm just not sure that PB needs to regulate innovation to such an extent...
different sport, can't compare
@@DannyBPlays Why can’t you compare? They’re both racket sports with similar fundamental technique
100 percent. Of course this was going to happen in PB...duh . Just like when poly strings entered the game and graphite open throated frames hit tennis. PB as a sport will either adapt or become extremely one dimensional.
@@DannyBPlaysSeriously..you can. PB is a just a version of tennis.
isnt there some banned tennis rackets too tho?
I just bought the sweet spot pro
And now you’re dropping a banger !!!
WTH 🤦♂️
Jk Connor
Thanks for the Tips
I feel like I need a list of videos, but in order. There’s so much stuff on the Internet that I get overwhelmed and choose the wrong video for my skill set. Someone needs to put a catalogue together in order of things to learn and develop
Use this guy's videos. He offers technique improvements as well as explaining exactly the whens and whys. I view him as a 3.5 to 4.0 for athletic players that can progress to 4.5 and 5.0 levels. If you are not concerned about the importance of footwork, shot selection, and technique, then these videos won't help.
link in description?
Here’s the link for the Banger: enhancepickleball.com/discount/NEWYEAR?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fthe-banger
Wow!
I think it is supper dumb losing interest in pickle ball with these changes
Weird times in PB , everyone has the same access to paddles , so people can choose to keep up with the power. I don’t wanna hear pros complain about it , you’re a pro deal or play rec. At the rec level it’s mostly free points because people aren’t good enough to take advantage of the power productively, often is a liability if anything.
They're just mad they don't have a nice paddle
sounds like you either have never played against a mod or you own a mod
@DannyBPlays I don't own a mod, I've used good quality made paddles.
With my paddle in 2016 I could spin the ball sideways 2 ft and break balls. When starting I asked the third shot drop. Coming from a Badminton Background I could generate power to clear from one end to the other and smash at 150mph. Every other racket sport, the person who could hit hard, accurate and maintain a fast pace would win. Placement won at intermediate levels.
Pickleball is different in that regard, there is no power shot from a a really good drop.
BS.
I can take the best drop shot and wack the best pro right in the forehead. Dinners do not stand a chance against me as I've mastered spin. That's what 60 years of being a spin doctor in tennis can do for you. I ca create spin in every direction. I play 4.5 to 5.0 players and they can't return my serve playing pickleball. I sometimes win all the points with my serve. I say they should ban any spin in pickleball. No spin on your serve, no spin on your lobs, no spin on your drop shots. I play big power hitters all the time and it has very little effect against me. If there was no doubles in pickleball, the sport would be dead in I week as most pickleball is played doubles. It's funny how tennis players who don't play pickleball always show the clip of doubles pickleball players doing their dink shots in defense of how hard tennis is compared to pickleball. I recently played a college tennis player singles pickleball and and ran that poor fool all over the place and easily beat him. He now has some respect for pickleball.
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Let’s make your videos shine even brighter! I can handle everything from editing your content to designing catchy thumbnails and even optimizing for SEO. You just share your raw footage, and I’ll take care of the rest, ensuring everything is polished and ready to upload.
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There should be another League and call it “SMASH BALL” and leave Pickleball the way its suppose to be played.
"the way its supposed to be played", maybe you like slow minute long dinking rally's at the net but that style of play is boring and massively favours players with hand eye coordination above all. Both athleticism and power are other facets of the game that something can lean on, that is arguably much more interesting and engaging. Pickleball is changing mate, deal with it haha
@ I see your an amateur pickleball player 😹
@ Haha of course I am! But I know what style of play I prefer and it works for me with my strengths. People play different ways I guess. All that matters is the scoreboard
Why is having a better paddle and unfair advantage? Are we just going to ban any paddle that is outside of our norm? Maybe we should stop regulating our paddles until we have found the best performing and most durable paddles we can and then paddle companies can start basing their paddles off of that technology.
I have the Joola Mod. It's perfectly done. Balanced, Power, and no need to add weights. And first to not trigger my tennis elbow
@@pauldela1051because you don't have to swing to hit a crazy hard shot
I could put strings on my paddle and it would spin and trampoline to make the game unplayable.
Self-imposed technological limitations exist in all racket-sports, tennis included. Making the best paddle / racket within those regulations is what manufacturers should aim for, but the regulations are there to uphold the essence and integrity of the sport.
sounds to me like you've never played pickleball
Tennis is dying off
I just bought the Joola 16.5 Pickelball paddle, is it banned?
The player not the paddle
Cmon if you are a pro you should be able to figure out how to handle the power….tennis is 50 percent faster than in the past and they don’t change the rules
Just go to a slower ball
Nope! Faster ball. 🙂 let it rip.
exactly force a rule so the ball will play slower.
Imagine if they throttled tennis racket technology because they liked a "slower" game. Get with the times. Nobody wants to play tennis with a wooden racket anymore and nobody wants their paddles throttled either.
Imagine if they would limit the baseball bats. Of wait, they do? How come you can't have a super bat with modern technology?
Ridiculous nonsense.
Every single sport has requirements and parameters their equipment must meet.
You know, like how you can't cork your bat in baseball or deflate the football Ala NE Patriots.
@@notnotnownow9622 the only reason they limited the bats was because rebuilding stadiums is expensive to do. lol.
@russbilderback those rules are to prevent unfair advantage because a bat that hits farther or a football easier to catch are unequivocal advantages. However, they're trying to control the STYLE of the game with these restrictions. They've said it in their own writings that they want to encourage "finesse". Improved paddle technology can likely make you hit harder, but that isn't necessarily an unequivocal advantage if you don't have skill. No. This is Orwellian. Down with the USAP paddle regulations!!!!
@@benowulf So if the bat hits farther you don't change the style of the game? Imagine you could make a bat that would hit 2 times more powerfull then the ones in use today, wouldn't that change the style of game?
And if you deflate the ball or make it from a different material you won't change the style? How about instead of having air inside to have some kind of foam or making it a bit heavier, isn't going to change the style of the game?
Lmfao always changing rules and equipment 😂
So glad Mod is getting banned, 90% of the people using it have no idea how to play the game and just bang, literally every 4.0-4.5 players with mod are 3.0-3.5 without it
No.. they just don't know how to play your finesse game which is dying.
What a 🐈 don’t blame the paddle blame ur game
There is nothing unfair about the use of any pickleball paddle as anyone can buy and use that paddle.
Your the type that shows up at the softball field with a juiced bat
Gotta keep the game slow, after all it’s for senior citizens 😅
Stupid comment.
Not anymore.
It's easier to play at a rec level and doesn't take as much space. Also, you don't have to run.
Why are we limiting a growing sport
Pickleball is dying, it used to be a sport for the family. Now it's simply dangerous, expensive and full of sh...t
You must be joking, pickleball is becoming a household sport now
@@michaelquecera3971 Was becoming a household sport before the greed set in.
Pickleball is doing just fine. You need to either adapt or find a new sport.
Lmao dangerous
The ovation isn’t even a power paddle, and has a really small sweet spot. I like it for its maneuverability and precision. My game is finesse, not power. Really disappointed about this.