@@joejunior5991 Yeah she did have one, the daughter she had with Siegfried was trampled to death by horses on her daughter husbands order. Which led to Kriemhild going mad a second time.
My favorite ones here are her lines for Siegfried and Sieg. She's being a raging tsundere towards her husband, but loves him enough to still call him Lord Siegfried. He's just too kind for her and his own good. As for Sieg, it warms my heart to see Kriem act like a worried mother towards him ;)
I think she being sarcastic to her "Siegfried-sama" For being a Total Moron by letting Hagen to kill him and Left her behind for the sake of Her and Brynhild at the cost of her sanity and killed Hagen and Gunther
I swear when she talks to Sieg you can physically feel the mother instincts growing exponentially and realizing that her now adopted child not only inherited the worst parts of her husband but also suffered a fate similar to his. Whoever writes these interactions is amazing. Also, her being a giga Tsundere for Siegfried gives me life. P.S. I love that when she's asked what she hates she doesn't say Siegfried. She mentions some of his characteristics like leaving her alone just to die because he wanted to be useful and never considering her feelings for the matter. And while she dislikes this there isn't any hate. The people she really hates are her brother and that asshole Hagen who tricked her into killing him.
The writer for 90% of the character interactions in this game is Yuichiro Higashide, just so you know. He's the writer for Apocrypha's light novels and the Turas Realta manga.
@@Marco-Antonio11 Not........ really no. I'm more referring to the fact that both of them decided to live their lives in the name of "Heroism" without considering other people's feelings really. Sieg being a walking cardboard is only his problem. Siegfried is an actual interesting character study and, in his stories, a proper tragic hero who lived as a tool and died once the people he called "friends" stopped seeing him as useful.
Kriemhild: I want to hear EXACTLY what you did! Sieg: Well...you see... *on the other side of Chaldeas* Siegfried: My instincts tell me that I am in danger...that the consequences of actions long past are upon me...and that I should tell Master to grind me into mana prisms as what is coming for me is a much worse fate...
What a family... Siegfried: Heroic Dad Altera: Dad #2 Kriemhild: Tsundere & Yandere Mom Sieg: Son Sigurd: Cool Uncle Brynhildr: Weird Aunt Aslaug: Cousin Ragnar: Cousins Cool Husband Valkyries: Some Aunties Melusine: Distant Relative Oryou: Another Distant Relative Astolfo: Childhood friend Frankenstein: Also a relative Eric Bloodaxe: Some forgotten Uncle Skadi: Neighbor Hans Andersen: Original Hans Good luck Jeanne.
@@saltandgacha4583 Why do I get the feeling that Jeanne and Kriemhild would scold them both Sieg and Siegfried in the same room, and talk about the events that happen in aprophyca
not really angry more like a teenage girl sulking like a typical tsundere who can't express her feeling and only express anger as a alternative solution.
@@joejunior5991 idk. I would be absolutley livid if he his actions led to 20 years of mental insanity and hatred only for it to be meaningless in the end.
@@joejunior5991 Nah. She is not that petty. She does love Siegfried. But she hate the fact that Siegfried sacrifice himself for a greater good while leaving her alone. Imagine having your wife or husband commit suicide for a self the people's sake. So she loves her husband, but she hates her husband heroic sacrificial tendency.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 yeah Martyring yourself is never good especially when you leave someone behind like that is was for greater but that’s don’t mean anything to the love one you made sad for your death
@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary Judging by bond 5, yes. We're the couple's therapist. Kriemhild wants us to come with her so she can start talking to Siegfried without losing her shit everytime.
My Chaldea is dedicated to join couples (Xiang and Yu)and since Arcade stops me from reuniting Rama with Sita, no power or budget will stop me from making Jeanne meet her mother-in-law and Siegfried to make up to his wife
Krim literally called Siegfried a deadbeat husband who doesn't love her enough While Sigurd was called as an imposter should just drop dead And for Sieg She seem activate her mother instinct on him and told him to change his name other than the word "Sieg" since it's a front name for Siegfried and Siegurd Probably to prevent Sieg from being a deadbeat like Siegfried
She wants to kill Sigurd not because he's an imposter but because he's a hero and she hates heroism. She was being sarcastic too with the line "I mean, a hero doesn't die no matter what you do, right?" because of Siegfried heroic nature that he allowed himself to be killed to stop the war with Brunhilde after all.
Imagine how pissed off she would be if she found out that Siegfried killed himself AGAIN to save Sieg and Sieg went and sacrificed himself at the end of the Apocryoha. Double whammy.
What makes it worse that Siegfried saved Sieg not as a hero but he wants Sieg to have freedom . Meaning Siegfried did something selfish in a very long time.
@@farizahmad3036 you see, a dragon having a flamethrower is an ingenius idea, people with focus on the flamethrower for the dragon to breath fire, plus double flame
In Fate, Siegfried's death was his own idea to prevent a war from breaking out (in the real Nibelungenlied he was legitimately betrayed, it wasn't his plan). However he didn't tell Kriemhild that he planned to die, which led to her bloody revenge. Kriem's profile says that when she finally managed to kill Hagen, Hagen revealed to her that it had all been Siegfried's idea. She spent 20 years of hatred and vengeance trying to kill her husband's killers, only to learn that her husband had asked them to do it in the first place. So she's rather understandably angry at Siegfried about it.
The problem is that it is not mythology accurate. And now we have kriemhyld who is more of a Brynhild. They basically killed originality of the character
@@phoenixkibara458 i mean they make character based on the myth but it's really just for the base. Any change after that is what make it fate kriemhild, otherwise it would just be a copy and not original at all
@@uchuujindesu1387 yeah like having the sword with which Brynhild killed Sigurd. Which was never mentioned in her legend. Not only that but kriemhyld hates Brynhild of her own myth, the Brynhild of kriemhyld myth is exactly the reason why Siegfried was killed. Kriemhyld wanted to show off before Brynhild, Brynhild decided to take her husband from her and asked her husband to help her kill him because kriemhyld was not polite. And kriemhyld waited for so long to take revenge. By doing this bulls*it with Siegfried knowing it, they literally destroyed the originality of German myths, which give people's a lesson about revenge and betrayal like Nibelungenlied, Volsung saga, Siegfried myth. And make her another Brynhild who wanted to kill her hubby with sword which she never possessed and was never mentioned in her myth. While in the myth she was suffering from rage and pain of losing a loved one, and waited a long twenty years to take revenge, they made her pointless. I pity her for what they'd done. Don't justify people who now add servant without context and add some mechas for coolness. I don't see a lot of really original characters right. Or Morgan gods what they'd done with this beautiful witch, you can say it's a lostbelt, but I will say that they made a very interesting character a simple yandere.
@@phoenixkibara458 ah i'm sorry if it's sound like i'm justifying what they did. When i read your comment in my head it's like you are trying (or maybe just plain complaining) to change(?) or maybe projecting your idea(?) of kriemhild. To me you just like stating the obvious thing which is kinda useless because they really just take myth kriemhild and then change it fate kriemhild and in that moment the originality already died.
@@phoenixkibara458 Huh, i didn't realize this until my friend point it out for me, basically i thought you're first comment is worthy of r/whooooshh and my reply is me saying "Did you seriously think fate tried to make a myth accurate character? "
Well, I guess I can understand The Hate against Heroism with her. And the fact her VA voiced Kaguya. That's no coiencidence, it's FATED.😂. Bravo Lasnagle, Bravo
A masterful casting choice there. Can pull off that mixture just right in a way that you can just feel it. Didn't even think about them adding this character to the game someday, but really glad they did.
Other than literally any of the Emiyas, Illya, Chloe, Miyu, Astrea(Luvia), Istreival, Ishtar(Tosaka), and Paravati (good sakura), I feel like Siegfried, Kriemhild, and Sieg has the largest chance to be a family. Siegfried the apologetic and heroic father, Kriemhild being the tsundere and a tad yandere wife, especially seeing that she was happily married in life and doesn't hate-hate Siegfried, and Sieg is the half adopted/related son to the both of them.
>Spend 20 years plotting revenge for her husband's death >Have your revenge by killing the one who killed your husband >Turns out your husband's murderer was actually a close friend of his and husband actually let himself be killed in order to solve the conflict >Be extremely frustrated after realizing that you wasted those 20 years of hatred and agony for nothing See this is why you don't want to be a hero of justice because it will NEVER end well
Being a hero in real life really means saving everyone except yourself. And when you're sacrificed, those who truly love you are the one who will suffer. Such an irony, but that's how it truly works.
@@razetryant2570 Sieg, a boy with similar "scent" and name to her husband now it turns out this boy has had similar fate to her husband that whole interaction is basically like a mother scolding her son who did smth bad that his father also did. even more so when you realized she tells Sieg to "seiza" (basically sit down and be obedient)
With her tsundere mom instincts awakening around Sieg... I have to wonder how she and Jeanne d'Arc would be like. Ruler's gonna have a hell of a mother-in-law
Is she just being a tsudnere or am I lost here Was not expecting kriem to be like this with sumanai was honestly expecting more lovey dovey Now I need to see her talk with altera
It's because fate messed with siegfried's death. In fate his death was planned by himself. So while she still loves him, she is still really pissed about it.
She legitimately resents him for not only killing himself but not telling her, but also still loves him beneath that, as shown in the story. Not gonna go into details since it isn't translated yet tho
She spent many years (20, I think) trying go get revenge for her husband’s death. Plotting, killing, hating. Only for one day the person she thought killed her husband tell her that Siegfried let himself be killed. All those years she wasted her revenge for was for nothing. She is reasonable angry
1:44 Sieg: Nothing out of the ordinary, just fight a holy grail war with the power of Siegfried fighting against an Indian demigod, one of the Knights of the Round Table and an evil priest.
Kriemhild: THAT'S MAMA KRIEMHILD TO YOU HANS! Sieg *pointing to self* : are you talking to me? Kriemhild: Yes Schmidt, come along now, we are going to get some ice cream. *cuts in front siegfried*
Sieg must explain how he has died twice already and now is on his third life. Yeah, what joy. Once we get a new event, they need to double up on additional voice lines, especially for Charlemagne who has no lines for the EXTRA originals.
@@nurwibowo7937 I meant after his second death against Mordred that led to Fran reviving him at the cost of her life, Sieg hasn't died since. His first death was even before he met Jeanne.
poor Sieg, he will have to explain that he is in a love triangle with a saint and a trap ps: Sigurd and Siegfried apply "if a woman doesn't try to kill you, she doesn't love you"
Kreimhild meets Jeanne: "I don't approve. She'll just encourage heroism." Kreimhild then sees JAlter: "Why don't you go for her sister? I like her way more."
Sieg: "so I died once but Dad gave his heart to save me, also I can trasform into him. I also died a second time but Fran accidentally zap me back to life. Then I fought an Indian walking nuke with infinite mana, fought an angry Japanese priest, snatched his Grail and went to the Reverse Side alone for a millenia to quarantine it... Mom?" Kriemhild: *ANGRY TIGER MOM NOISES*
She does seem to care about Sieg, though she’s going to be very concerned hearing how many times he nearly died in Apocrypha. Or beating the shit out of him upon learning Siegfried sacrificed himself a second time to save his life. She’s clearly not too stable towards Sigurd, but he might actually let her do it, so long as he gets to use his Guts skill. That’s how he survives Brynhildr after all. With Siegfried…she’s really, really, *really, REALLY f***ing PISSED* … but it seems she does still care deep down. His death truly did shatter her to her core, and knowing he asked Hagen to kill him and her revenge was in vain seriously screwed her up inside. She needs help, and as with Baobhan Sith I cannot think of a way to provide it. Her deliberate effort to become an enemy of Proper Human History so as to have Siegfried summoned to oppose her being rendered entirely unnecessary thanks to Siegfried being on Chaldea’s roster (thus we could probably just bring him to her the moment it becomes possible) most likely did not improve matters…
So she's mad at him for letting himself get killed but she's feeling self conscious about being a berserker and happy to see him again underneath. Ah, Siegfried and Altera's wife is cute!
It is kind of sad the way she interacted with Siegfried, from what I understand, she still does love him, but his death still haunts her so much, that she despises the idea of heroes, since heroism is what gotten her husband killed in the first place
0:07 Siegfried: 😓 *the feeling of true regret of the man who made the women he love suffered like he did he made thought of his people but he didn’t thought about his wife but I hope as a servant he could patch thing up with her,Lasengle gave him a opportunity*
She spent twenty years on revenge, married someone else (Altera) and used the woman as a tool, her brother become collateral damage, and in the end she found out her husband gave up his own life willingly. Of course she's angry.
sooooooo let's recap the family a bit Kriemhild: wife of Siegfrid, sister of altera (acccording to the myth, by FATE canon lore they are at best step-sisters) Sigurd: alternative version of siegfried Brynhilde: also wife of sigurd/siegfried and sister of Altera Sieg; tecnically considerable as siegfrid's son, also a dragon Jean d'arc: Sig's girlfriend Astolfo: Sieg's other "girl"friend Jalter and Jalter Lily: Jean's little sisters (by Jean imposition) Bradamante: astolfo's cousin Altera: a fragment of a killer alien star-machine turned "human" Did i forgot someone? those guys are trying to compete with Shirou family in term of complexity
Altera and Kriemhild are wives, not sisters. Kriemhild is actually Gundrun from the Norse version and Brynhildr‘s Germanic version is named Brunhild, the queen of Iceland.
... at least siegfriend gets someone. Meanwhile Sieg gets another -hild that wants to kill him. That ending is quite scary though. Hopefully Sieg's knees wasn't shaking.
Kriemhild - No me toques, aún estoy enojada contigo por ser tan complaciente con los demás antes que contigo Siegfried - Si cariño... Kriemhild - Deberías tener cuidado cazador de dragones, desde acá puedo ver la lanza de tu esposa a punto de apuñalarte Sigurd - ¡Master! ¡Rápido! ¡Activa la Guts! Kriemhild - Y tú, pequeño bastard- _(Sieg usa ojitos tiernos, es muy efectivo)_ Kriemhild - Owww, pobrecito ¿Tuviste una vida corta y miserable por portar el nombre de mi esposo? Más tarde ven a cenar con nosotros, haré pastel Siegfrid - ¡¿Ahora soy papá?!
My favorite line was with Sieg. I just love how I can picture Kiem grabbing Sieg by the collar and speaking right into his ear threateningly at 1:31 like Kaguya would do for Ishigami.
Kriemhild: I only Have Sieg for 10 Minutes but if Something happens To Him I will Fucking KILL SIEGFRED and then Myself Siegried in The Traning Room with EMIYA: Schuders Iust feel a Morderus Aura . Kriemhild Burst throug the Door :SIEFRIED
Kriemhild: "repeat history". cold sweat. Sieg "I'm not a regular servant, I was a homucols born to fight, but your husband who never forgave himself for being deceived, gave me his heart because he wanted happiness and peace." the murderous aura was almost gone. Kriemhild "Really, I understand, that bastard and liar!" as the aura returned. Kriemhild "sorry, I was thinking of a certain person who continues beheaded as well." while the aura was gone and while remaining intimating, it seemed more human. so I continue the story. Kriemhild "I can understand that fighting for love is to avenge your beloved, and this is commendable!" she said in an almost human tone. Kriemhild "But tell your mother, where is the priest who forced you to kill you: I have to tell him what I think of him!" here the tone was cold as ice and so sharp it made Excalibur look like a wooden sword. Shiro you must seek the protection of the Foreigners, cause a certain beseker!
I do wonder... If Toole were ever to come to FGO (probably as a Pseudo-Servant), would Kriemhild decide to adopt her as well to watch over Sieg since she is mature and responsible and not self-sacrificing (at least not anymore) and to give him a better example of an "elder sister" than her own "illiterate farmer" daughter-in-law?.. I thought about this since the faces of Kriemhild, Sieg and Toole looked very similar to me and if the 2 homnuculi had same hair or eye color as her one would easily think they are her biological children.
Sigurd: is THAT your wife, Siegfried? Siegfried: THAT'S MY WIFE FROM MISERY!!! Sieg: TASUKETE, JEANNE!!!!! Kriemhild: hehehehe!!!! (Stabs the door and went The Shining) here's Kriemhild!!!! (Sigurd, Siegfried and Sieg screams like women) Ritsuka: bruh... Charlemagne: bruh again...
There once was a tale of myth of sea, The name of the girl was Kriemhild of Heroic Dynasty. She come with sword up and down To cut our sumanai boi. Soon may Brynhildr come Bringing chainsaw while seeing Sigurd run, One day Sieg got caught in front, No one leave and go.
I imagine master getting found and caught by Raikou and sieg stands there laughing at ritsuka when all of a sudden Kriemhild appears and drags him off while Ritsuka says *"WELCOME TO HELL!!!"* in a demonic voice while they're both dragged off by the moms.
She has full of rage inside her like beserker of el dorado but she still trying to stay calm as possible when having conversation with other people She has personality of morgana,brynhildr,el dorado beserker into 1
0:25 *She was lying.* *Upon excusing herself, she was so pleased she began shadowboxing (read: swinging her sword wildly) at the thought of seeing her husband again.*
1:40 POV: you talked back to your mom and the next thing you see is a flying flip flop
Siegfried & Sigurd - angry scolding
Sieg - concerned mom mode
Mah boi Sieg died heroically for some holy virgin puss
Man she shift from being angry girlfriend/wife to doting but strict mom in a second
@@joejunior5991 well... tecnically she can be considered as Sieg mother...
@@Zankyo137 does she had children during her previous life?
@@joejunior5991
Yeah she did have one, the daughter she had with Siegfried was trampled to death by horses on her daughter husbands order. Which led to Kriemhild going mad a second time.
Kriem : *scolds Sieg*
Siegfried : "Please not too harsh with him"
Kriem : *proceed to scold both of them*
That moment Sieg looked away. He knew he fucked up
Kriemhild: You will tell me everything 😡
Sieg: Well theres this Indian Demigod.......😓
😅
@@captainvalourous6668after that incident both Arjuna and Kriemhild: KARNA!!!
@@uselesshero.official Karna while fighting Arjuna: Don’t be harsh on your son, he was just fighting in his father’s place.
@@GM-lx7ji 😂
Kriemhild: Angry mom
Siegfried: Cool dad
Sieg: want to be like his father one day (Angry mom doesn't approve)
Sigurd: Cool dad?
Bryn: Angry mom... Will stab if necessary
@@anadaere6861 I feel like Sigurd is more the cool uncle and Bryn is the weird aunt who always ends up killing her undying husband.
@@doctorshark509 I think you mean Yandere Aunt
@@LordOfGilneas That's not yandere
@@LordOfGilneas i think it's pure malice
Man, whoever wrote Kriemhild interactions was a frickin genius
Kriemhild.
With siegfried and sigurd: "What, are you looking, stupid hero?!"
With sieg: "its okay sweetie, mom is here"
literally that gordon ramsay meme
Love the fact that Schmidt is already an accepted name to call Sieg in the community.
My favorite ones here are her lines for Siegfried and Sieg.
She's being a raging tsundere towards her husband, but loves him enough to still call him Lord Siegfried. He's just too kind for her and his own good.
As for Sieg, it warms my heart to see Kriem act like a worried mother towards him ;)
I think she being sarcastic to her "Siegfried-sama" For being a Total Moron by letting Hagen to kill him and Left her behind for the sake of Her and Brynhild at the cost of her sanity and killed Hagen and Gunther
Knowing him he would just apologize and make her melt with kindness too
@@burnoutcat2387 he really need all tha Sumanai and VERY LONG explanation to do to make her understand
@@joejunior5991 add in the fact that he is aware that she remarried to Altera after his death and is quite chill about it
With Siegfried: Yandere mode
with Sieg: Tsundere Mom Mode
I swear when she talks to Sieg you can physically feel the mother instincts growing exponentially and realizing that her now adopted child not only inherited the worst parts of her husband but also suffered a fate similar to his. Whoever writes these interactions is amazing.
Also, her being a giga Tsundere for Siegfried gives me life.
P.S. I love that when she's asked what she hates she doesn't say Siegfried. She mentions some of his characteristics like leaving her alone just to die because he wanted to be useful and never considering her feelings for the matter. And while she dislikes this there isn't any hate. The people she really hates are her brother and that asshole Hagen who tricked her into killing him.
The writer for 90% of the character interactions in this game is Yuichiro Higashide, just so you know.
He's the writer for Apocrypha's light novels and the Turas Realta manga.
@@RodsRetroplays I had no idea about that, now I finally understand why most interactions are rubbish
"Inherited the worst part of her husband". Could you explain this bit?
@@surajwahengbam9600 refers to the plot armor and being a Gary Stu with legs
@@Marco-Antonio11 Not........ really no. I'm more referring to the fact that both of them decided to live their lives in the name of "Heroism" without considering other people's feelings really. Sieg being a walking cardboard is only his problem. Siegfried is an actual interesting character study and, in his stories, a proper tragic hero who lived as a tool and died once the people he called "friends" stopped seeing him as useful.
kriem and Bryn: *shaking hands for wanting to just murder sigurd*
Sigurd: guess ill die
Virgin "I'll kill my husband"
Vs
Chad "i'll scold my husband and kill yours"
Sigurd: "activate guts skill"
Siegfried: I'm not on a killing list yet....right?
Sumanai would require a guts rank up to survive
Siegfried: S-sumanai...
I love the finer details like her not outright hating Siegfried but hates the "Heroic Carelessness" that he has.
she should have more damage against "seigi no mikata"
keep her away from Shirou then
@@Zankyo137 Saw a similar comment on Reddit, and uh, yeah the reply that came afterwards was along of the lines of "Kiritsugu ga SHINDA"
@@Zankyo137 Eh, most likely would have a similar reaction to the one with Sieg, except for the "you smell like Siegfried" part.
@@HDLLHANZ wait, really?
Man, I can't with these voice lines. She's literally made to be voiced by Koga Aoi lol
She literally asked Sieg to seiza so she can give him a scolding😅. That’s hilariously wholesome 😂
Aoi Koga kill it 🤯 her performed the character is awesome
Kriemhild: I want to hear EXACTLY what you did!
Sieg: Well...you see...
*on the other side of Chaldeas*
Siegfried: My instincts tell me that I am in danger...that the consequences of actions long past are upon me...and that I should tell Master to grind me into mana prisms as what is coming for me is a much worse fate...
I don't know why but I read Siegfried dialogue with Oblivion NPC voice and it left me laughing silly
I can picture him turning into a dragon while he slept and broke his room that she cleaned up
He could say I'm with a blond saint
0:45 only if they have plot armors
Guts too
She is completely insane, I love it
Indeed, Brynhildr 2.0 but Berserker
@@joejunior5991 B-but... Bryn also has a Berserker form? xD
@@shinjiokami swimsuit is not counted since they are temporary and not actual Class
That's Madness Enchancement EX for you
Hmmm yes i think that answers the question of:
"Why Does Berserker Go Berserk?"
What a family...
Siegfried: Heroic Dad
Altera: Dad #2
Kriemhild: Tsundere & Yandere Mom
Sieg: Son
Sigurd: Cool Uncle
Brynhildr: Weird Aunt
Aslaug: Cousin
Ragnar: Cousins Cool Husband
Valkyries: Some Aunties
Melusine: Distant Relative
Oryou: Another Distant Relative
Astolfo: Childhood friend
Frankenstein: Also a relative
Eric Bloodaxe: Some forgotten Uncle
Skadi: Neighbor
Hans Andersen: Original Hans
Good luck Jeanne.
As if Jeanne is not weird enough.
@@saltandgacha4583 Why do I get the feeling that Jeanne and Kriemhild would scold them both Sieg and Siegfried in the same room, and talk about the events that happen in aprophyca
@@ramonleon9456 I could see that happening. Like real quick lol XD
Don't forget his far removed eastern relatives Ibuki Douji and Vritra
@@ramonleon9456 Pfft! Kriemhild would scold Jeanne for self sacrificing too
Kriemhild to Sieg: don't be like your dad.
too late
I sacrifice myself for thicc holy maid dear Mother
@@nicknaito7160 at least it is not for Heroism.
@@th3ra83 that the point
Sieg: i am going to be a hero like Siegfried
Kriemhild: Oh hell nah! Not my son!
ジークに対して理不尽な怒りじゃなくて説教なのが一番おもろい
究極のツンデレ
www
Love is war Afterall
When you lose your husband, because he commits suicide over the 'greater good'. Only to be called a tsundere, centuries later.
@@RyubearSaysGao he was a lancer
ツンばっかりでデレが分かりづらくて誤解されてるパターンなのが笑えるけど痛々しい…。キュケオーンみたいにイベントで解決して欲しい。
Sigurd: Ah shit, here we go again
A+ endurance ain't no joke, he'll be fine
"ah Siegfried you too have a wife who wants to kill you"
"Oh no she's mad at me but she wants to kill you as well, sumanai."
I guess this an opportunity to buff Siegfried?
I like how she doesn't hate Siegrfried, just really pissed at him.
not really angry more like a teenage girl sulking like a typical tsundere who can't express her feeling and only express anger as a alternative solution.
@@joejunior5991 idk. I would be absolutley livid if he his actions led to 20 years of mental insanity and hatred only for it to be meaningless in the end.
@@joejunior5991 Nah. She is not that petty. She does love Siegfried. But she hate the fact that Siegfried sacrifice himself for a greater good while leaving her alone. Imagine having your wife or husband commit suicide for a self the people's sake. So she loves her husband, but she hates her husband heroic sacrificial tendency.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 yeah Martyring yourself is never good especially when you leave someone behind like that is was for greater but that’s don’t mean anything to the love one you made sad for your death
@@justawanderingoldman7699
Archer: You too, huh? Well sit back and eat your omelette cause I'm you telling *my* story.
Sumanai was my 1st SR servant, and Sieg was my 1st welfare. Now I feel like I have the obligation to complete this family by getting Kriemhild.
That makes you the official family babysitter, or the other adopted child
@@Moon1tan what about, family therapist?
@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary Judging by bond 5, yes. We're the couple's therapist. Kriemhild wants us to come with her so she can start talking to Siegfried without losing her shit everytime.
@@aetherdraw step one, loose the madness enhancement, step 2 regular therapy that you would do like any other in this situation, step 3 done
My Chaldea is dedicated to join couples (Xiang and Yu)and since Arcade stops me from reuniting Rama with Sita, no power or budget will stop me from making Jeanne meet her mother-in-law and Siegfried to make up to his wife
Krim literally called Siegfried a deadbeat husband who doesn't love her enough
While Sigurd was called as an imposter should just drop dead
And for Sieg
She seem activate her mother instinct on him and told him to change his name other than the word "Sieg" since it's a front name for Siegfried and Siegurd
Probably to prevent Sieg from being a deadbeat like Siegfried
She wants to kill Sigurd not because he's an imposter but because he's a hero and she hates heroism. She was being sarcastic too with the line "I mean, a hero doesn't die no matter what you do, right?" because of Siegfried heroic nature that he allowed himself to be killed to stop the war with Brunhilde after all.
Imagine how pissed off she would be if she found out that Siegfried killed himself AGAIN to save Sieg and Sieg went and sacrificed himself at the end of the Apocryoha. Double whammy.
*Y E S*
One day Jeanne and Sieg will meet again
What makes it worse that Siegfried saved Sieg not as a hero but he wants Sieg to have freedom . Meaning Siegfried did something selfish in a very long time.
Sieg be like: "Well technically I took the body of Siegfried and fought alongside him, talked with him and took his half name. Greetings mother"
"but why?"
"I just want to be with this french lady"
"pls call her here, it's urgent #^^)"
Jeanne, you should start running.
@@LeinRa-Reaction "There's also this English prince..."
"The French, the English, what's next? A Dane?
"There's Aslaug..."
Sieg: "Kay Mom, I'm Hans now."
Jeanne: "Sieg...ah, i mean Hans, what u got in ur hand?"
Sieg: "Flamethrower"
well I guess Dragonfire does count
And he ready to roast kiara
I dont think a dragon need a flamethrower
@@farizahmad3036 you see, a dragon having a flamethrower is an ingenius idea, people with focus on the flamethrower for the dragon to breath fire, plus double flame
sieg/ hans: flammenwerfer
In Fate, Siegfried's death was his own idea to prevent a war from breaking out (in the real Nibelungenlied he was legitimately betrayed, it wasn't his plan). However he didn't tell Kriemhild that he planned to die, which led to her bloody revenge.
Kriem's profile says that when she finally managed to kill Hagen, Hagen revealed to her that it had all been Siegfried's idea. She spent 20 years of hatred and vengeance trying to kill her husband's killers, only to learn that her husband had asked them to do it in the first place. So she's rather understandably angry at Siegfried about it.
The problem is that it is not mythology accurate. And now we have kriemhyld who is more of a Brynhild. They basically killed originality of the character
@@phoenixkibara458 i mean they make character based on the myth but it's really just for the base. Any change after that is what make it fate kriemhild, otherwise it would just be a copy and not original at all
@@uchuujindesu1387 yeah like having the sword with which Brynhild killed Sigurd. Which was never mentioned in her legend. Not only that but kriemhyld hates Brynhild of her own myth, the Brynhild of kriemhyld myth is exactly the reason why Siegfried was killed. Kriemhyld wanted to show off before Brynhild, Brynhild decided to take her husband from her and asked her husband to help her kill him because kriemhyld was not polite. And kriemhyld waited for so long to take revenge. By doing this bulls*it with Siegfried knowing it, they literally destroyed the originality of German myths, which give people's a lesson about revenge and betrayal like Nibelungenlied, Volsung saga, Siegfried myth. And make her another Brynhild who wanted to kill her hubby with sword which she never possessed and was never mentioned in her myth. While in the myth she was suffering from rage and pain of losing a loved one, and waited a long twenty years to take revenge, they made her pointless. I pity her for what they'd done. Don't justify people who now add servant without context and add some mechas for coolness. I don't see a lot of really original characters right. Or Morgan gods what they'd done with this beautiful witch, you can say it's a lostbelt, but I will say that they made a very interesting character a simple yandere.
@@phoenixkibara458 ah i'm sorry if it's sound like i'm justifying what they did. When i read your comment in my head it's like you are trying (or maybe just plain complaining) to change(?) or maybe projecting your idea(?) of kriemhild. To me you just like stating the obvious thing which is kinda useless because they really just take myth kriemhild and then change it fate kriemhild and in that moment the originality already died.
@@phoenixkibara458 Huh, i didn't realize this until my friend point it out for me, basically i thought you're first comment is worthy of r/whooooshh and my reply is me saying "Did you seriously think fate tried to make a myth accurate character? "
Kriemhild: your name bad sieg change it
Sieg: but mom father gave me this name
Kriemhild: thats why it bad
Kriemhild: Mother is always right boi. Now you listen to me and change your name to Hans
@@yukiru0566 sad father noise
Well, I guess I can understand The Hate against Heroism with her. And the fact her VA voiced Kaguya. That's no coiencidence, it's FATED.😂. Bravo Lasnagle, Bravo
That's Aoi Koga to you (she also voiced Komi)
The only one who could pull the tsudere and yandere tone in one go.
A masterful casting choice there. Can pull off that mixture just right in a way that you can just feel it. Didn't even think about them adding this character to the game someday, but really glad they did.
Oh Sieg has alot of reason that he doesn't want to tell Kriemhild what he did in Apocraphya
The fact that Siegfried killed himself to save him or the fact that Sieg himself became a self sacrificial hero to put an end to the HGW?
@@surajwahengbam9600 while also becoming Siegfried again lol.
Yeahh. She doesn’t need to hear all that 😅😅. I’m afraid for his safety 😅🤣🤣
she would probably blame and kill Jeanne, Astolfo and Sieg for killing Siegfried the second time...🤣🤣🤣
"I DON'T CARE IF THE FRENCH GIRL HAD A BIG CHEST YOU'RE NOT EVEN A YEAR OLD"
She just went "Sieg, my dear, be on your knees".
Momma powah
I love how every heroic spirit who's even remotely connected to Sumanai ends up adopting Sieg.
We support our new angry and concerned mommy
Other than literally any of the Emiyas, Illya, Chloe, Miyu, Astrea(Luvia), Istreival, Ishtar(Tosaka), and Paravati (good sakura), I feel like Siegfried, Kriemhild, and Sieg has the largest chance to be a family. Siegfried the apologetic and heroic father, Kriemhild being the tsundere and a tad yandere wife, especially seeing that she was happily married in life and doesn't hate-hate Siegfried, and Sieg is the half adopted/related son to the both of them.
Yessss
Seig: Look mom, the Emiyas
Kriemhild: Don't look at them sweetie, or you'll be a selfless fo- SEIG!
Seigfried and Seig: *is wearing red and black*
@@anadaere6861 Siegfried and Sieg: It's too late now, we have become part of the Emiyas now
@@michaelspinks7269 *starts having a badass theme*
"Join us Kriemhild. You already have the black and red clothing with white hair"
@@anadaere6861 Unlimited Balmung Works intensifies
>Spend 20 years plotting revenge for her husband's death
>Have your revenge by killing the one who killed your husband
>Turns out your husband's murderer was actually a close friend of his and husband actually let himself be killed in order to solve the conflict
>Be extremely frustrated after realizing that you wasted those 20 years of hatred and agony for nothing
See this is why you don't want to be a hero of justice because it will NEVER end well
Rin with Shirou: that is why I need to keep him in check before he does something reckless again.
Also then find out your daughter killed by her husband by trampled to death.
Standing here I realize
Being a hero in real life really means saving everyone except yourself. And when you're sacrificed, those who truly love you are the one who will suffer. Such an irony, but that's how it truly works.
@@catalogiccat4206 that you’re just like me, trying to make history
ジークに対しては少し厳しめな母親って感じになるの好き
what do you mean by mother?
@@razetryant2570 Sieg, a boy with similar "scent" and name to her husband
now it turns out this boy has had similar fate to her husband
that whole interaction is basically like a mother scolding her son who did smth bad that his father also did. even more so when you realized she tells Sieg to "seiza" (basically sit down and be obedient)
@@LeinRa-Reaction ahh i see thank you. good sir
めっちゃいい関係ww
すまないさんに対してだって、愛があったが故だから
With her tsundere mom instincts awakening around Sieg... I have to wonder how she and Jeanne d'Arc would be like.
Ruler's gonna have a hell of a mother-in-law
Also ruler's-change into avenger class to fit in hell with mom in law
Is she just being a tsudnere or am I lost here
Was not expecting kriem to be like this with sumanai was honestly expecting more lovey dovey
Now I need to see her talk with altera
She resents him for killing himself
It's because fate messed with siegfried's death. In fate his death was planned by himself. So while she still loves him, she is still really pissed about it.
She legitimately resents him for not only killing himself but not telling her, but also still loves him beneath that, as shown in the story. Not gonna go into details since it isn't translated yet tho
She has conflicted feelings for him. She hates him for the whole killing himself thing but also hates herself and on some level still cares about him.
She spent many years (20, I think) trying go get revenge for her husband’s death.
Plotting, killing, hating. Only for one day the person she thought killed her husband tell her that Siegfried let himself be killed.
All those years she wasted her revenge for was for nothing. She is reasonable angry
1:32 a moment of silence for siege🙏
1:44 Sieg: Nothing out of the ordinary, just fight a holy grail war with the power of Siegfried fighting against an Indian demigod, one of the Knights of the Round Table and an evil priest.
Considering what Sieg did in Apocrypha, she's right that Siegfried's heroic tendencies are indeed infectious 😂 😂 😂 😂
Kriemhild: THAT'S MAMA KRIEMHILD TO YOU HANS!
Sieg *pointing to self* : are you talking to me?
Kriemhild: Yes Schmidt, come along now, we are going to get some ice cream.
*cuts in front siegfried*
"let me cut his head a bit,a heroix spirit doesn't die no matter what you do"
Damn did gramps told her what he did to ozzy in Camelot singularity
Sieg must explain how he has died twice already and now is on his third life. Yeah, what joy. Once we get a new event, they need to double up on additional voice lines, especially for Charlemagne who has no lines for the EXTRA originals.
Sieg hasn’t died, he is still waiting for jeanne in reverse side of the world as fafnir. Sieg in fgo is just a copy of him to help fujimaru
@@nurwibowo7937 I meant after his second death against Mordred that led to Fran reviving him at the cost of her life, Sieg hasn't died since. His first death was even before he met Jeanne.
"By the way m'y first death was avoided by Siegfried killing himself to save me"
".............."
@@burnoutcat2387 yeah, that will make Chaldea go to Ereshkigal way faster, so let's omit that detail
@@allenusison3124 Do you mean what was saved by a script? XD
poor Sieg, he will have to explain that he is in a love triangle with a saint and a trap
ps: Sigurd and Siegfried apply "if a woman doesn't try to kill you, she doesn't love you"
Kreimhild meets Jeanne: "I don't approve. She'll just encourage heroism."
Kreimhild then sees JAlter: "Why don't you go for her sister? I like her way more."
@@JohnPeacekeeper "but she just wants a Fafnir-"
"You ARE Fafnir! "
@@JohnPeacekeeper "Listen Jalter you HAVE to fuck my son, continue the bloodline!"
there is a drawback Jalter is Ritsuka-sexual
I mean this Seig has no feelings for Jeanne, and vice versa
Different universe
Sieg: "so I died once but Dad gave his heart to save me, also I can trasform into him. I also died a second time but Fran accidentally zap me back to life. Then I fought an Indian walking nuke with infinite mana, fought an angry Japanese priest, snatched his Grail and went to the Reverse Side alone for a millenia to quarantine it... Mom?"
Kriemhild: *ANGRY TIGER MOM NOISES*
If she wasn't an avenger now, she will end up becoming one after hearing that
Indian walking nuke 😂😂
Sieg:Also I have cute french girlfriend.
@@shadowclaw7210 Who has an NP that makes her kill herself.....
@@terrencenoran3233 Kriemhild:I’m surrounded by self sacrificing idiots.
Now I can image Kriemhild become Seig's overprotective Mommy
From now, i'll call our dragon homunculus .......Hans Schmidt
I have been waiting for this
FINALLY
She does seem to care about Sieg, though she’s going to be very concerned hearing how many times he nearly died in Apocrypha. Or beating the shit out of him upon learning Siegfried sacrificed himself a second time to save his life.
She’s clearly not too stable towards Sigurd, but he might actually let her do it, so long as he gets to use his Guts skill. That’s how he survives Brynhildr after all.
With Siegfried…she’s really, really, *really, REALLY f***ing PISSED* … but it seems she does still care deep down. His death truly did shatter her to her core, and knowing he asked Hagen to kill him and her revenge was in vain seriously screwed her up inside. She needs help, and as with Baobhan Sith I cannot think of a way to provide it. Her deliberate effort to become an enemy of Proper Human History so as to have Siegfried summoned to oppose her being rendered entirely unnecessary thanks to Siegfried being on Chaldea’s roster (thus we could probably just bring him to her the moment it becomes possible) most likely did not improve matters…
I was wrong
She's not greedy, she's batshit insane
I know that reference
So she's mad at him for letting himself get killed but she's feeling self conscious about being a berserker and happy to see him again underneath.
Ah, Siegfried and Altera's wife is cute!
Kriemhild: *Tries to behead Sigurd*
Ritsuka: Nope! Put down that sword! Bad Kriemhild!
Kriemhild: Change your name
Sieg: Wut
Me: Wut
It is kind of sad the way she interacted with Siegfried, from what I understand, she still does love him, but his death still haunts her so much, that she despises the idea of heroes, since heroism is what gotten her husband killed in the first place
0:07 Siegfried: 😓
*the feeling of true regret of the man who made the women he love suffered like he did he made thought of his people but he didn’t thought about his wife but I hope as a servant he could patch thing up with her,Lasengle gave him a opportunity*
Sieg is basically that one meme of a puppet looking at the side after Kriemhild told him to not do anything stupid.
Sieg : "Jeanne please pick me up I'm scared"
He about to get those slippers!!! 😂😂😂🗣🗣🗣💯💯💯☠️💀
She spent twenty years on revenge, married someone else (Altera) and used the woman as a tool, her brother become collateral damage, and in the end she found out her husband gave up his own life willingly. Of course she's angry.
Poor lady just wants her hubbie to take care of himself more
Kriemhild to Sieg was literally : Why are you running,WHY ARE YOU RUNNING
Sieg be like: Don't worry, I already did it, it's not like I should die again right?
Ah yes
Sieg meeting his mother
very beautiful
Welp sieg met his mom who hates his dad.
sooooooo let's recap the family a bit
Kriemhild: wife of Siegfrid, sister of altera (acccording to the myth, by FATE canon lore they are at best step-sisters)
Sigurd: alternative version of siegfried
Brynhilde: also wife of sigurd/siegfried and sister of Altera
Sieg; tecnically considerable as siegfrid's son, also a dragon
Jean d'arc: Sig's girlfriend
Astolfo: Sieg's other "girl"friend
Jalter and Jalter Lily: Jean's little sisters (by Jean imposition)
Bradamante: astolfo's cousin
Altera: a fragment of a killer alien star-machine turned "human"
Did i forgot someone? those guys are trying to compete with Shirou family in term of complexity
Altera and Kriemhild are wives, not sisters. Kriemhild is actually Gundrun from the Norse version and Brynhildr‘s Germanic version is named Brunhild, the queen of Iceland.
@@elizabethkblanco4620 okay, they are giving shirou a run for his money
@@Zankyo137 Eh? This has nothing to do with that. You just got the two different versions mixed up.
I think this is probably the closest we'll get see when Kaguya goes full yandere mode
Sieg : mom I’m a a dragon what do I do ?
2018 : siegfried to sigurd : bro your wife is scary.
2022 : sigurd to siegfried : well bro, your wife is scary to.
lmfao
... at least siegfriend gets someone.
Meanwhile Sieg gets another -hild that wants to kill him.
That ending is quite scary though. Hopefully Sieg's knees wasn't shaking.
How do you get the emoji
@@DaEpicFirestar2 you sub to our savior mundus.
she legit became mom towards Sieg but a Tsundere lover to Siegfried & Sigurd.
I legit love this dynamic
This hits realy, REALY strong with Kaguya vibes! Like Aoi Koga didn't even have to change the character image for the role of Kriemhild!
Kriemhild - No me toques, aún estoy enojada contigo por ser tan complaciente con los demás antes que contigo
Siegfried - Si cariño...
Kriemhild - Deberías tener cuidado cazador de dragones, desde acá puedo ver la lanza de tu esposa a punto de apuñalarte
Sigurd - ¡Master! ¡Rápido! ¡Activa la Guts!
Kriemhild - Y tú, pequeño bastard-
_(Sieg usa ojitos tiernos, es muy efectivo)_
Kriemhild - Owww, pobrecito ¿Tuviste una vida corta y miserable por portar el nombre de mi esposo? Más tarde ven a cenar con nosotros, haré pastel
Siegfrid - ¡¿Ahora soy papá?!
Siegfried: Do you still love me? I'm sorry btw
Kriemhild: *Yesn't*
Kaguya-sama is strong on this one. Poor Sieg, he didn't know that his mom is a Berserker
My favorite line was with Sieg. I just love how I can picture Kiem grabbing Sieg by the collar and speaking right into his ear threateningly at 1:31 like Kaguya would do for Ishigami.
poor Sieg, the kids about to get lecture by his mom?... or maybe sis?
the mom energy is really high there. it work either way
Kriemhild: Sieg... You should change your name now!
Jeanne: And who decided it? >:O
so kriemhild is lilterally "i hate you but i love you " meme
The thumbnail looked like something out of Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Only this time it's Sig, Sieg, and Siegfried
Kriemhild: I only Have Sieg for 10 Minutes but if Something happens To Him I will Fucking KILL SIEGFRED and then Myself
Siegried in The Traning Room with EMIYA: Schuders Iust feel a Morderus Aura .
Kriemhild Burst throug the Door :SIEFRIED
So now we have Kaguya, Miyuki, Hayasaka and Ishigami in FGO. One more and we get the student council of Shuuchin Academy in different universe.
Who are the same va hayasaka and ishigami in fgo? I didn't notice
@@Fhon131 ishigami = asclepius
Hayasaka = Capt Nemo
@@Fhon131 Captain Nemo and Asclepius, while the other is Achilles and now Kriemhild
@@junmasaki9728 Nah, Ishigami voice Asclepius, not Mandricardo
@@jayconstell9937 my bad,thanks for the correcting
"Would you like to meet my saint?"
Kriemhild: "repeat history".
cold sweat.
Sieg "I'm not a regular servant, I was a homucols born to fight, but your husband who never forgave himself for being deceived, gave me his heart because he wanted happiness and peace."
the murderous aura was almost gone.
Kriemhild "Really, I understand, that bastard and liar!"
as the aura returned.
Kriemhild "sorry, I was thinking of a certain person who continues beheaded as well."
while the aura was gone and while remaining intimating, it seemed more human.
so I continue the story.
Kriemhild "I can understand that fighting for love is to avenge your beloved, and this is commendable!"
she said in an almost human tone.
Kriemhild "But tell your mother, where is the priest who forced you to kill you: I have to tell him what I think of him!"
here the tone was cold as ice and so sharp it made Excalibur look like a wooden sword.
Shiro you must seek the protection of the Foreigners, cause a certain beseker!
I do wonder... If Toole were ever to come to FGO (probably as a Pseudo-Servant), would Kriemhild decide to adopt her as well to watch over Sieg since she is mature and responsible and not self-sacrificing (at least not anymore) and to give him a better example of an "elder sister" than her own "illiterate farmer" daughter-in-law?..
I thought about this since the faces of Kriemhild, Sieg and Toole looked very similar to me and if the 2 homnuculi had same hair or eye color as her one would easily think they are her biological children.
別の方も言ってますが、ジークに対する対応が「子供を説教・詰問する母親そのもの」
ちなみに日本では母親が子供に詰問するときに「正座」で反省を促します。
Sigurd: is THAT your wife, Siegfried?
Siegfried: THAT'S MY WIFE FROM MISERY!!!
Sieg: TASUKETE, JEANNE!!!!!
Kriemhild: hehehehe!!!! (Stabs the door and went The Shining) here's Kriemhild!!!!
(Sigurd, Siegfried and Sieg screams like women)
Ritsuka: bruh...
Charlemagne: bruh again...
The Kamavati plot writes itself this time
Im physically cringed
Saber be like:
Is this the emergency food, I will eat her!
Setanta: (CV: Ayumu Murase) *EHE!*
Kriemhild: *eHe Te NaNdAyO!!!*
Imagine Jeanne call this one mom. Now that huge family members!
Behold the power of involuntary adoption
There once was a tale of myth of sea,
The name of the girl was Kriemhild of Heroic Dynasty.
She come with sword up and down
To cut our sumanai boi.
Soon may Brynhildr come
Bringing chainsaw while seeing Sigurd run,
One day Sieg got caught in front,
No one leave and go.
These Sieg truly push her buttons except our precious Homunculus hehe (like the shades on Siegfried Saber)
I imagine master getting found and caught by Raikou and sieg stands there laughing at ritsuka when all of a sudden Kriemhild appears and drags him off while Ritsuka says *"WELCOME TO HELL!!!"* in a demonic voice while they're both dragged off by the moms.
"HAI SEIZA!"
Mom is angy
Aoi Koga definitely delivered voicing Kriemhild and I starting to fall in love with her already. 😃😊😍❤️👍🏻
If I hear one more 'o kawaii koto' to her, I will completely lose it, since I heard it from one emergency food already
Dub-User Detected.
Oh yeah I use both EN and JP, currently sticking on JP for now since Ayato reasons, but yes o kawaii koto
Funny that Sieg was more or less adopted on the spot by Krimheld.
She has full of rage inside her like beserker of el dorado but she still trying to stay calm as possible when having conversation with other people
She has personality of morgana,brynhildr,el dorado beserker into 1
Now we need Guinevere to complete the crazy Wife trio with Kriemhild and Brynnhildr.
0:25 *She was lying.*
*Upon excusing herself, she was so pleased she began shadowboxing (read: swinging her sword wildly) at the thought of seeing her husband again.*