Apparently Bitwig has a built-in surface controller if you have a touchscreen. But I’ve been using an iPad and Studiomux. Studiomux is free on the PC/Mac, but you have to pay $10 for the client on the iPad. I did also have to whitelist the Bonjour service for the private network on my PC. Then it worked. Bonjour comes with iTunes I believe.
It’s a shame Hydrasynth isn’t a better MIDI controller. I tried it and it’s spotty. Not all the knobs send MIDI, and it’s a pain to get it working properly. Ended up going back to my Pro 2 for my MIDI needs because Sequential stuff sends all the front panel controls no problem.
Pausing at 2 minutes in to comment and say how much I appreciate how on point you are, and I've barely started. This is about a perfect a review as anybody could make for this product.
The fact that there’s an envelope and LFO for most parameters made this an instant buy for me. Amazing. Sounds lovely too, i’m no longer FOMOing so much about the hardware Oberheims.
02:21 would have been SWM if adjusted accordingly. Gforce are not the first ones cloning OBX. Sonic Projects from Switzerland receive that honor. OP-X, OP-X pro & OP-X-pro II. OPX already got released about 17 years ago & sounded pretty authentic. They also have some YT videos with comparisons with the real instrument. I do believe that the Gforce can create a pitch envelope. Given the appropriate destination, this could perhaps be possible with the first two faders on the second left control panel.
0:06 Ha! Great review and sounds good. Another really good one (especially sound wise) is Sonicprojects OP-X PRO-II. Didn't know about this one so I'll have to check it out.
Pretty well everything you'd want in an OB-X, I think. The extra modules, macros and effects seem really useful, and of course, you can turn them off or ignore them if you just want a close emulation of the hardware. I recently got the Axxess plugin from GForce and the extras are great, but it can sound very authentic, too. Thanks for the demo.
All GForce products are great. I first got hooked with GForce MTron Pro. GForce has a lot of great documentary videos on the history of synthesizers. Having the endorsement of Tom Oberheim for a software synth is a big deal.
Dave Spiers of GForce is a cool guy. I watched a nice interview with him on the ProSynth Network UA-cam channel. I ended up getting a nice photo of me and Tom Oberheim at the 2022 Synthplex show in Burbank, CA. What the heck. I am mostly a guitar player with several vintage Martin 0-18's. Now with nothing better to do I have acquired a pile of synths including an OB-X8.
Really appreciate this detailed and thoughtful review. One small criticism - it would have been really nice to see your mouse, just to follow along a little more easily. Thanks for this review though, I'll probably be picking up this VST soon!
Would love to buy a VultureCulture pack of your explorations with the OB-X, great demo. Your sonic style and interests are unique, I’d be happy to part with $5-10 for just some fun noodling patches my friend. Cheers! 💥
Does OB-X support MPE (i.e. polyphonic aftertouch)? The earlier GForce OB-E VST supports it, but I haven't confirmed for OB-X. If so, you can do that CP-80/Oberheim Bladerunner cover that you've been considering.
You need to get back at a Minimoog to rewind your thoughts about vintage synths having a dull(dark) sawtooth sound - that thing is raspy as hell :D and if you go even further back - the moog system 55 oscillators are able to reset their waveform cycle - means they sound almost always the same if you repeat to press a key (what people associate with digital but it was even a thing back then with old analogs)
I didn't say all vintage synths have a dull sawtooth sound, just the OB-X without the filter modulated more open. The Minimoog certainly is bright! Brighter than the Moog One for sure
At 11:40 it reveals the flaw all VST inherit, may it be synths or mixing tools: Modulated filter resonance in lower frequencies. Beside from other things like missing dimension and convincing LR-differences, and great low end punch. This VST is good in mimicing the tones but lacks all the small details and character that sets a vintage synth apart from the rest. I'm aware of merely 3 developers which are capable of coding good filter behavoir and only one of them, does it perfect, including dimension, keeping musicality during movement and convincing dual mono circuitry (tolerance differences). So, no more VST synths for me...until that developer releases his first synth, which possibly will happen next year.
I'd like to see a comparison video of the new OB-X VST against both an OB-X keyboard, and the new OB-X8 keyboard. Many people say the new OB-X8 keyboard doesn't perfectly match an original OB-X, but it sounds great to me from what I've heard out of it in videos. The real question is, how does the new VST compare with the OB-X8 keyboard that some of us might be considering buying? Another factor of importance is the programming. The OB-X8 includes 700 factory presets of the OB-X, OB-Xa & OB-8. Will these same presets be ported over to the OB-X VST? And do the Xa & 8 models offer any significant features missing on the OB-X VST, which is modeled after only the OB-X keyboard (but said to have added features) ? The great thing about the OP-X II Pro is the programming. Many great patches are included, even if the VST isn't as good or faithful. For this new official OB-X VST to really be of great use to many of us, the sound design of the patches available for it also need to be great.
@@VultureCultureThere are the filters of P440 Mastering EQ, P565 Siren (Moog and Altec Filters), P42 Climax and the re-invented P915 Medusa (original Moog FFB) from PULSAR MODULAR. Than followed, after a long distance, by the EQ filters of MAAT and Massenburg Design Works. Pulsar Modular will publish its synth ZORBA next year, and after that one the complete reworked P900 Moog modular system. Their tools are incredible, you'll have to try them - as a hardware enthusiast, you´ll immediately recognize the quality.
What is the problem with the unfortunate quality on the synth audio capture? This sounds grungy--not in a good way. Like some distortion got put on by mistake. Other videos don't have this problem and the demo plugin don't sound like this.
It was an mp3 encoding issue in OBS unfortunately. UA-cam expects different mp3 quality rates depending on if you're livestreaming or not and since most of my content is livestreamed I had the resolution turned down. My apologies about the audio.
I prefer my akai samplers. Dont get me wrong. I tried a few vsts. Even recorded 9ne or two. My samplers and synths are easily more accessible. I would like to get a few obx sounds. Especially strings but using my samplers always. 👍
I've watched a few videos of this VST with a real Oberheim OB-X, and I can tell you that it is actually pretty damn close to the real thing. It's probably the best emulator there is out there for an Oberheim synth. I highly disagree, and I really do believe that this synth is pretty darn close to the real thing lol 😅
Alex mentioned in the chat during the premiere that it also does MPE, which should be very cool to try. Going to give it a go today!
I need to get an MPE controller - seems like it would be fantastic
Apparently Bitwig has a built-in surface controller if you have a touchscreen. But I’ve been using an iPad and Studiomux. Studiomux is free on the PC/Mac, but you have to pay $10 for the client on the iPad. I did also have to whitelist the Bonjour service for the private network on my PC. Then it worked. Bonjour comes with iTunes I believe.
@@VultureCulture I encourage you to get an Osmose or if it's "just" poly AT you're after, get a Hydrasynth.
It’s a shame Hydrasynth isn’t a better MIDI controller. I tried it and it’s spotty. Not all the knobs send MIDI, and it’s a pain to get it working properly. Ended up going back to my Pro 2 for my MIDI needs because Sequential stuff sends all the front panel controls no problem.
Pausing at 2 minutes in to comment and say how much I appreciate how on point you are, and I've barely started. This is about a perfect a review as anybody could make for this product.
You're too kind! I'm just out here trying to spread the word on cool shit
The fact that there’s an envelope and LFO for most parameters made this an instant buy for me. Amazing. Sounds lovely too, i’m no longer FOMOing so much about the hardware Oberheims.
Totally worth it, got it as soon as it came out and been loving it since!!!!🎉🎹🔊✨
02:21 would have been SWM if adjusted accordingly. Gforce are not the first ones cloning OBX. Sonic Projects from Switzerland receive that honor. OP-X, OP-X pro & OP-X-pro II. OPX already got released about 17 years ago & sounded pretty authentic. They also have some YT videos with comparisons with the real instrument. I do believe that the Gforce can create a pitch envelope. Given the appropriate destination, this could perhaps be possible with the first two faders on the second left control panel.
Yes, I cover how to do it right after the timestamp. Xadsr and xlfo is extremely powerful at elevating OB-X beyond the original hardware
0:06 Ha! Great review and sounds good. Another really good one (especially sound wise) is Sonicprojects OP-X PRO-II. Didn't know about this one so I'll have to check it out.
Awesome!
Great video. Vst’s and plug ins are becoming more accurate and accessible 😊
G-Force sets the new standard for great sounding analog plugins
Agree as you wouldn’t need to pay expensive prices for the originals.
Recently heard about this VST and picked it up - so nice! Can we expect them to follow up with an OB-Xa soon, given the endorsement on this package?
I don't think GForce is done with Oberheim products but we will see
GForce OB-E is also very good and makes Cherry Audios Eight Voice sound like a toy IMO..
I got it already and working for sounds on it :D Great review as always man ;)
Can't wait to hear your sounds for it! Would love to check them out on a livestream
@@VultureCulture thank you you man) I will let you know when its ready 😉
TY for an awesome Vid just purchased it!!
Awesome! Enjoy! 🙏🙏
Pretty well everything you'd want in an OB-X, I think. The extra modules, macros and effects seem really useful, and of course, you can turn them off or ignore them if you just want a close emulation of the hardware. I recently got the Axxess plugin from GForce and the extras are great, but it can sound very authentic, too. Thanks for the demo.
Agreed! And thank you for watching! 🙏
All GForce products are great. I first got hooked with GForce MTron Pro. GForce has a lot of great documentary videos on the history of synthesizers.
Having the endorsement of Tom Oberheim for a software synth is a big deal.
Love that documentary "Bright Sparks"
Dave Spiers of GForce is a cool guy. I watched a nice interview with him on the ProSynth Network UA-cam channel.
I ended up getting a nice photo of me and Tom Oberheim at the 2022 Synthplex show in Burbank, CA. What the heck.
I am mostly a guitar player with several vintage Martin 0-18's. Now with nothing better to do I have acquired a pile of synths including an OB-X8.
@mrfuzztone Just luminary humans - and the sounds out of their instruments is nothing short of incredible
Great review 🔥🎹 Thanks 😉
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the comment 🙏
Really appreciate this detailed and thoughtful review. One small criticism - it would have been really nice to see your mouse, just to follow along a little more easily. Thanks for this review though, I'll probably be picking up this VST soon!
I should have had my mouse capture on! I hopefully won't make that mistake in the future!
Thank you! 🙏
@@VultureCulture +1 on that
Would love to buy a VultureCulture pack of your explorations with the OB-X, great demo. Your sonic style and interests are unique, I’d be happy to part with $5-10 for just some fun noodling patches my friend. Cheers! 💥
I really appreciate that! 🙏
I promise I have some really cool new Vulture Culture samples / patches coming in the future 💥
Does OB-X support MPE (i.e. polyphonic aftertouch)? The earlier GForce OB-E VST supports it, but I haven't confirmed for OB-X. If so, you can do that CP-80/Oberheim Bladerunner cover that you've been considering.
It does!
Woah. Whats that beast???? Omg
its a VST
@@annother3350 A VST can be a beast too
You need to get back at a Minimoog to rewind your thoughts about vintage synths having a dull(dark) sawtooth sound - that thing is raspy as hell :D
and if you go even further back - the moog system 55 oscillators are able to reset their waveform cycle - means they sound almost always the same if you repeat to press a key (what people associate with digital but it was even a thing back then with old analogs)
I didn't say all vintage synths have a dull sawtooth sound, just the OB-X without the filter modulated more open.
The Minimoog certainly is bright! Brighter than the Moog One for sure
What is the patch you are using around 20:50? Or did you just create it?
Just the patch I was making in the video. Sound great
Is great plugin from my Logic Pro
At 11:40 it reveals the flaw all VST inherit, may it be synths or mixing tools: Modulated filter resonance in lower frequencies. Beside from other things like missing dimension and convincing LR-differences, and great low end punch. This VST is good in mimicing the tones but lacks all the small details and character that sets a vintage synth apart from the rest.
I'm aware of merely 3 developers which are capable of coding good filter behavoir and only one of them, does it perfect, including dimension, keeping musicality during movement and convincing dual mono circuitry (tolerance differences).
So, no more VST synths for me...until that developer releases his first synth, which possibly will happen next year.
I'd like to see a comparison video of the new OB-X VST against both an OB-X keyboard, and the new OB-X8 keyboard.
Many people say the new OB-X8 keyboard doesn't perfectly match an original OB-X, but it sounds great to me from what I've heard out of it in videos. The real question is, how does the new VST compare with the OB-X8 keyboard that some of us might be considering buying? Another factor of importance is the programming. The OB-X8 includes 700 factory presets of the OB-X, OB-Xa & OB-8. Will these same presets be ported over to the OB-X VST? And do the Xa & 8 models offer any significant features missing on the OB-X VST, which is modeled after only the OB-X keyboard (but said to have added features) ?
The great thing about the OP-X II Pro is the programming. Many great patches are included, even if the VST isn't as good or faithful. For this new official OB-X VST to really be of great use to many of us, the sound design of the patches available for it also need to be great.
Which developers nail it?
@@VultureCultureThere are the filters of P440 Mastering EQ, P565 Siren (Moog and Altec Filters), P42 Climax and the re-invented P915 Medusa (original Moog FFB) from PULSAR MODULAR.
Than followed, after a long distance, by the EQ filters of MAAT and Massenburg Design Works.
Pulsar Modular will publish its synth ZORBA next year, and after that one the complete reworked P900 Moog modular system. Their tools are incredible, you'll have to try them - as a hardware enthusiast, you´ll immediately recognize the quality.
TAL Audio could be or not ? @@VultureCulture
nice advertisement
What is the problem with the unfortunate quality on the synth audio capture? This sounds grungy--not in a good way. Like some distortion got put on by mistake. Other videos don't have this problem and the demo plugin don't sound like this.
It was an mp3 encoding issue in OBS unfortunately. UA-cam expects different mp3 quality rates depending on if you're livestreaming or not and since most of my content is livestreamed I had the resolution turned down.
My apologies about the audio.
Awesome! Please stop making me spend money! (I have the OB-E already.... but this seems like a no-brainer....). Great Demo!
Thank you! I think I'm going to be buying a lot more of their plugins as well!
how activate buttons without mouse?
Midi learn
@@VultureCulture yes but for demonstrate i think is better to use mouse. thank you anyway!
Huh not bad.
I prefer my akai samplers. Dont get me wrong. I tried a few vsts. Even recorded 9ne or two. My samplers and synths are easily more accessible. I would like to get a few obx sounds. Especially strings but using my samplers always. 👍
No
VST is not even close to real thing
Close or not this synth is absolutely amazing.
I've watched a few videos of this VST with a real Oberheim OB-X, and I can tell you that it is actually pretty damn close to the real thing. It's probably the best emulator there is out there for an Oberheim synth. I highly disagree, and I really do believe that this synth is pretty darn close to the real thing lol 😅
Great price that from Dave @ GForce SW 😔😔🙌🙌🎹🎹🎵🎵🍻🍻
Absolutely!