why i no longer believe timothy heller (melanie martinez soap speedpaint)

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  • @celesteludenburned9905
    @celesteludenburned9905 5 років тому +13939

    “I don’t expect a lot of views on this”
    *1M views*

  • @camerongallup9083
    @camerongallup9083 5 років тому +17701

    It took me 20 minutes to understand that Timothy is a girl

  • @sunnight1005
    @sunnight1005 5 років тому +11360

    Timothy: Melanie assaulted me
    Also Timothy: (dresses up as Melanie)

    • @myaaaxchavez
      @myaaaxchavez 5 років тому +139

      fr

    • @daniellevin9575
      @daniellevin9575 5 років тому +384

      Timothy:OMG MELANIE "ABUSED" ME!
      Melanie:Piggyback

    • @toxicrobin6988
      @toxicrobin6988 5 років тому +143

      Surely logical! Nice job Timothy Heller, fucking stupid.

    • @kissedbythevoid
      @kissedbythevoid 5 років тому +75

      Google toxic friendship

    • @shrimp3089
      @shrimp3089 5 років тому +55

      HearthCricket Cool

  • @Swan-u4j
    @Swan-u4j Місяць тому +819

    Who else is here after this Timothy made a video of the situation years later

  • @irisalexander
    @irisalexander 5 років тому +6410

    *_"my psychic told me i shouldnt be friends with you because i need a grammy.."_*
    im crying skskskskks

    • @detectivedjwizard2129
      @detectivedjwizard2129 5 років тому +99

      Lol Was the psychic wrong tho?

    • @andreja1176
      @andreja1176 5 років тому +18

      And I oop-

    • @lee-ym5yc
      @lee-ym5yc 5 років тому +15

      I mean-- *I would too-,*

    • @priawoulmun6919
      @priawoulmun6919 5 років тому +26

      cameron alexander How are you? It’s been 8 months since you’ve posted this.. just wanted to know what’s up and if anything exciting or not bad happened in ur life and if ur okay?

    • @nas3809
      @nas3809 5 років тому +34

      Pria Woulmun We stan a caring queen

  • @kylenoisegriffin
    @kylenoisegriffin 5 років тому +7190

    The fact that Timothy *deleted* the insta pic of her dressing like Melanie, as if she were trying to hide evidence of her staying friends with Melanie. If she were innocent, would she need to delete the pic?

    • @uhm_5414
      @uhm_5414 5 років тому +269

      Aaron Aiken Exactly. Also, she must be really dumb if she doesn’t think the police can get those pics back up there or other people can screen shot them.

    • @kylenoisegriffin
      @kylenoisegriffin 5 років тому +106

      Black Manta And people have screen shoted them already lmao

    • @uhm_5414
      @uhm_5414 5 років тому +34

      Aaron Aiken I know lmao.

    • @MangaPen
      @MangaPen 4 роки тому +94

      Granted, I don't believe Timothy either, but we should consider the fact that her relationship with Martinez was deeply soured after this occurrence. It's like deleting pictures of your ex, I suppose?

    • @yungpussygod3854
      @yungpussygod3854 4 роки тому +12

      I mean I dont know but it seems like getting r*ped is pretty traumatic, but she is probably taking that pic down because she doesnt like that photo?

  • @pennynoir7774
    @pennynoir7774 6 років тому +2942

    9:20 *_WE CAN’T BE FRIENDS ANYMORE BECAUSE I NEED THAT GRAMMY_*

  • @peachr384
    @peachr384 Місяць тому +233

    Dear lord the drama is back. And I don’t even know anymore but I do know everyone keeps cutting off the “she never said no to what we chose to do together” quote.

    • @felixt808
      @felixt808 Місяць тому +52

      yeah because the rest of the quote is fully irrelevant. melanie admitted to having intercourse with timothy, and saying "she never said no to what we chose to do together" is not only a bad formulation of words, it just proves timothy right. not saying no doesnt mean consent. ive chosen to do things i didnt want to do because i was PRESSURED.

    • @toast_iztastie9
      @toast_iztastie9 Місяць тому +7

      They say "she didnt say no" like I saw 200 comments of it

    • @Kix3333ee
      @Kix3333ee 23 дні тому +6

      @@felixt808 probably worded it wrong

    • @Boingo1625
      @Boingo1625 13 днів тому

      @@felixt808she said “what *WE* CHOSE to do together”
      Girl it IS important. Are you stupid? You clearly just ignored the rest of the sentence and didn’t even pay attention to what you were reading. C’mon.

    • @LesbianShenYuan
      @LesbianShenYuan 9 днів тому +5

      @@Kix3333ee there is no way to word someone “not saying no” RIGHT. it’s a literal admission of guilt

  • @df-px3ij
    @df-px3ij 5 років тому +4628

    And Timothy still talks about this drama in March 2019...

    • @kevinhumawid7731
      @kevinhumawid7731 5 років тому +151

      ѕтαяяdυѕт fσχ sure?? HAHAHAHHA she so desperate for the blings

    • @val77701
      @val77701 5 років тому +104

      If I was raped I wouldn’t stop talking about it until the rapist is behind bars. Its not drama, its violence.

    • @weirdo2521
      @weirdo2521 5 років тому +276

      Duttkopf but Timothy wasn’t raped by anyone so...(?)

    • @julianvsrc
      @julianvsrc 5 років тому +464

      @@val77701 bullshit. if you were raped the last thing you would want to do is talk about it. that shit fucks you up mentally and the fact that she won't shut up about it is evidence enough

    • @laleczkowa
      @laleczkowa 5 років тому +160

      @@julianvsrc Exactly. And I speak from experience 😓

  • @kellimichuda8362
    @kellimichuda8362 5 років тому +4332

    "Sincerely, the weirdo who drew you coughing up soap bubbles." lmao, you got a new fan.

  • @Fatalstabs
    @Fatalstabs 5 років тому +8274

    Timothy is also doing the same to Billie. Shes talking crap about her and lying about her for attention.

    • @sophieceleste4771
      @sophieceleste4771 5 років тому +542

      Really?! That is fucked up!

    • @gateway360
      @gateway360 5 років тому +206

      Nar*en Yeah, I think there is a picture of them somewhere online

    • @chrissymariee3
      @chrissymariee3 5 років тому +158

      What’s she saying about Billie?

    • @arismisery2395
      @arismisery2395 5 років тому +807

      @@chrissymariee3 pretty sure she was bashing her for hanging out with celebs who are older than her, and timothy was sexualizing her even though billie wears nothing but big baggy clithes lol, shes just trying to get as much clout as she can

    • @chrissymariee3
      @chrissymariee3 5 років тому +116

      Riley Brown wow! How sad.

  • @entr3_nou5
    @entr3_nou5 4 роки тому +3073

    The fact that Melanie was ON TOUR while the supposed “rape” happened should have told people all they needed to know. The fact that people believed Timothy after that is awful.

    • @kodathy9386
      @kodathy9386 4 роки тому +180

      Tim said that she got the dates wrong multiple times because it was too traumatic to remember, yet she remembered every detail of the rape, including exact sentences

    • @jest5781
      @jest5781 4 роки тому +316

      many assault victims don't remember the exact date of the incident. especially when they've tried to repress it. whether timothy lied or not, invalidating the incident based on that is kind a shitty to say...

    • @xtonibx5770
      @xtonibx5770 4 роки тому +281

      @Gi giag As a victim I literally can't tell you the day it happened but I remember every other detail. I'm not saying Timothy is telling the truth but invalidating someone's traumatic experience because they don't remember the date it happened is awful.

    • @gabrielsoares2777
      @gabrielsoares2777 4 роки тому +167

      @@xtonibx5770 I'm sorry for what you've experienced, really am. But I do understand what this person is trying to say, Timothy didn't just forget the date, she pointed one as the day it happened and then provided "prove" to ensure to all that it happened that specific day. But when pointed out that it wouldn't make any sense with Melanie's time line, she then proceeded to tell her traumatic experience made her mess up the date, but just before she was pretty sure of it, giving "proofs" and everything.

    • @xtonibx5770
      @xtonibx5770 4 роки тому +43

      @@gabrielsoares2777 I don't know much about this situation or all the holes in Timothy's story yet (I'm trying to learn more about this so I can decide if I feel comfortable listening to Melanie's music).
      I'm not trying to support Timothy or say that the holes in her story aren't real, but this person said that the fact that she forgot the date invalidated her story enough, and that itself isn't true, and it's kind of offensive. I do understand what you mean, though. (when you explained that she didn't *just* forget the date).

  • @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery
    @Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery 5 років тому +5984

    Melanie had to disable comments on her videos from this situation it's so awful

    • @kylapaige1977
      @kylapaige1977 5 років тому +268

      Galaxy Howl I was wondering why I couldn’t comment on any of her songs from the crybaby album💔

    • @chungtienvan
      @chungtienvan 4 роки тому +67

      Thanks for saying that, now I know :D

    • @yourmom-vw6kj
      @yourmom-vw6kj 4 роки тому +97

      Only K-12 has comments

    • @id10cyy
      @id10cyy 4 роки тому +16

      ikr 😭

    • @sectoid-with-internet-access
      @sectoid-with-internet-access 4 роки тому +96

      I was wondering why are comments disabled. Thanks for pointing it out

  • @randymarsh2083
    @randymarsh2083 6 років тому +7468

    I just saw you made this 2 weeks ago. I am so glad this is still going on, because I am thinking a truth will come out.

    • @PGOuma
      @PGOuma 6 років тому +7

      Dude Hi 🐸🍵

    • @idekhaileyrush2506
      @idekhaileyrush2506 6 років тому +9

      Dude Hi same

    • @emmaeek4462
      @emmaeek4462 6 років тому +11

      Dude Hi Timothy did say that she was lying in a tweet, it was all over Melanie Martinez news, but that tweet by her was later deleted

    • @xthaliaxii
      @xthaliaxii 6 років тому +2

      craisins 86 think of this if Timothy had the picture you can see when you took it ! So she'd know the exact date !

    • @PhelpsAdore
      @PhelpsAdore 6 років тому +1

      Same

  • @sweety_numma
    @sweety_numma 6 днів тому +13

    Love how this gets recommended 6 years later and it’s the same situation taking place again.

  • @sandruhray699
    @sandruhray699 6 років тому +886

    I listened to the full video yet my mind kept going back to “oh my god how is she doing this. I can’t even draw a hand turkey”

    • @mica64209
      @mica64209 6 років тому +4

      That profile explains it

    • @0l1v3r3v3r3tt
      @0l1v3r3v3r3tt 6 років тому +2

      honeylavender ed

    • @8Reptar
      @8Reptar 6 років тому +2

      I can't stop laughing because of this comment.

    • @imconfused3003
      @imconfused3003 6 років тому +5

      Camy Camryn so it's a trace of your hand. And then you add features to make it look like a turkey.

    • @Rebreakings
      @Rebreakings 6 років тому

      S a m e

  • @alonsog.7740
    @alonsog.7740 6 років тому +1168

    "The psychic said we can't be friends anymore" *MY PARTY CITY WIG HAS BEEN DESTROYED*

  • @adailylifeofaweirdo3516
    @adailylifeofaweirdo3516 6 років тому +7013

    Timothy should have gone to the police if she was rapped instead of going to Twitter.

    • @ihavebeenpwned9348
      @ihavebeenpwned9348 5 років тому +424

      A daily life of a weirdo If she would go to the police, there would not be anything. Report to the police a rape which happened years ago is mostly useless. So you think that the hashtag #metoo is useless bc people should have gone to the police instead ? The police often don't make the justice. Especially for rape. Sorry for my english it's not my first language.

    • @fartboxingkittens
      @fartboxingkittens 5 років тому +50

      Exactly my point

    • @natsuki4021
      @natsuki4021 5 років тому +331

      To be fair, its not that easy. The police are usually not very helpful in most rape cases. Especially if it was years to go. And like piper said, its upsetting for a victim to talk, even think about. (Not defending timothy just trying to say how it feels)

    • @poppyparanormal2189
      @poppyparanormal2189 5 років тому +163

      Natsuki
      First part of you comment doesn’t make sense to me.
      Why is it easy for her to go to social media but not easy for her to go to the police?
      Even if the police couldn’t help she would still have a case and have it reported for future incidents that may occur because of this whole incident.
      I’m not sure telling social media is going to help more than telling the authorities.
      Even if she didn’t get the justice she deserves that shouldn’t stop her from trying even if it takes her whole life and her effort could be helping other potential survivors.

    • @yikesbitch6223
      @yikesbitch6223 5 років тому +42

      ℛ𝒶𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓋𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓅𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹𝓃'𝓉 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝒷𝑒 𝒶 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔

  • @jay6enx
    @jay6enx 4 роки тому +2325

    Piper: "Yo ex fans, instead of burning expensive merch, just send it to my P.O. box"
    Me: RIGHT!!!

    • @ollie2111
      @ollie2111 4 роки тому +70

      Lol same. When I thought Melanie did it (tbh I support her but I still get doubts sometimes) I put away my merch in the back of the closet and decided if there is proof she did it I will give away my merch to someone who wants it, not waste it by burning it. Burning clothes is such a waste and harmful to the environment, just give them away if you hate her omg. I'm glad I kept them tho cause now I wore the shirt to the k-12 screening. Ngl I didn't like the movie but I love the songs. I guess now I'm back looking this up cause occasionally I get worried like "what if I was wrong and she's a rapist" but idk I guess we will never know the 100% truth and I'll just have to feel guilty for not knowing for sure & deciding to support her.

    • @IcelandicIslander
      @IcelandicIslander 4 роки тому

      So you’d like to support an abuser?

    • @chocolaterolls
      @chocolaterolls 4 роки тому +25

      sir Alfred who’s an abuser?

    • @IcelandicIslander
      @IcelandicIslander 4 роки тому

      O_o Melanie

    • @vampyyspyder6638
      @vampyyspyder6638 4 роки тому +17

      @@IcelandicIslander ...

  • @bridgetmcalister7907
    @bridgetmcalister7907 5 років тому +3191

    okay that thumbnail killed me.
    '' Oh no, An Opinion! D; ''

    • @fgvbgsx
      @fgvbgsx 5 років тому +35

      Thats why I clicked lmao

    • @charlottemcneela1900
      @charlottemcneela1900 5 років тому +4

      @@fgvbgsx same 😂

    • @trin.5104
      @trin.5104 5 років тому

      bridget mcalister NO YOU MAY ONLY BELIVE BC I AM ALWAYS RIGHT

    • @justipooh6866
      @justipooh6866 4 роки тому +1

      @Otakool666 Fujoshi, Its just hard saying it, those people are ignorant people that feel like when they realize that you're right, they still wanna convince you they're right.

    • @tardedaf
      @tardedaf 4 роки тому +2

      I blame stoicism... ugh.

  • @aaliyahetc.6687
    @aaliyahetc.6687 6 років тому +4423

    Timothy just wants fame and it's painfully obvious now.

    • @user-rd9tc7gd1b
      @user-rd9tc7gd1b 6 років тому +313

      Yeah and now she's coming for Billie Eilish 🙄🙄🙄 omfg

    • @PGOuma
      @PGOuma 6 років тому +32

      Rica GS can't believe that ish 🤦🏻

    • @d9minique
      @d9minique 6 років тому +126

      Khylee Gandy because she's "oversexualized" and "hangs out too much with grown men"

    • @d9minique
      @d9minique 6 років тому +101

      Khylee Gandy Yeah, I agree. That's just what Tim said. Billie replied to what everybody thinks was Timothy, saying that she's not sexualized at all and that she has never even taken a provocative picture.

    • @claudiagonzales3865
      @claudiagonzales3865 6 років тому +10

      Rica GS What's happening with Billie?

  • @weepdoll
    @weepdoll 6 років тому +5297

    Timothy:
    *[cries] she raped me...*
    _btw my new albums out._

    • @missmadness4162
      @missmadness4162 6 років тому +446

      ᴇʟ Timothy:
      I can’t believe you still choose a possible rapist and like me!
      Also I need a name for all my new fans...

    • @lillaurynn
      @lillaurynn 6 років тому +102

      Miss Madness victims lol or dry babies

    • @missmadness4162
      @missmadness4162 6 років тому +15

      love is not a factor 😆😂

    • @jasminev5814
      @jasminev5814 6 років тому +264

      honestly who would plug their album after they said they were raped 😪🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @mypetfruit9229
      @mypetfruit9229 6 років тому +9

      omg

  • @kaylagiglio805
    @kaylagiglio805 Місяць тому +345

    Rewatching this in 2024 bc this is all resurfacing again

  • @goingtomars143
    @goingtomars143 6 років тому +988

    this honestly breaks my heart because my boyfriends previous girlfriend lied about him sexually assualting her there were two witnesses that said it didnt happen and she even admitted he didnt do it to her friend and now he isnt aloud to see his bestfriend and the closet person to him and his mom doesnt want him in town. its heartbreaking just because shes a teenage girl they believe it.

    • @cynthiachapman9225
      @cynthiachapman9225 6 років тому +91

      That's awful. I had a friend who claimed a bunch of teachers sexually assaulted her and she would pick guys out online and that had mutual friends then say that they assaulted her meanwhile none of them know her name or anything

    • @katreendenverk2090
      @katreendenverk2090 6 років тому +50

      goingtomars That's horrible. Send my blessing, he doesn't deserve that and your amazing for supporting him. Xxxx

    • @nicolenewsome4863
      @nicolenewsome4863 5 років тому +22

      Im sorry for both of you. It's absolutely heartbreaking. Many prayers to you and him and many blessings. You two stay firm be courageous and be strong.

    • @goingtomars143
      @goingtomars143 5 років тому +30

      thank you so much:) he was found not guilty and i'm so grateful .

    • @krigillustrate
      @krigillustrate 5 років тому +12

      @@goingtomars143 that's terrible, i'm so sorry; one thing i hate about people lying about things like this is that it detracts from the people who have truly suffered through such terrible situations.
      shame on her for lying about it; what a terrible person.

  • @deletedaccount6430
    @deletedaccount6430 5 років тому +3243

    The thing is, Melanie said that she tried weed once and hated it, so...??? Timothy is instantly in a pit there.

    • @shirororasuketo
      @shirororasuketo 5 років тому +202

      What are you talking about? Melanie does smoke weed.

    • @deletedaccount6430
      @deletedaccount6430 5 років тому +455

      @@shirororasuketo
      No, she smokes cigarettes. She said in ~2 interviews that she didn't like weed after trying it.

    • @hmk3671
      @hmk3671 5 років тому +15

      gets upset**

    • @joy5976
      @joy5976 5 років тому +308

      no,,,?? she smokes weed before concerts, she's said it calms her anxiety, once on 4/20 she posted a pic of a big ass blunt saying happy 4/20 lol, pretty sure in an interview she said to calm down she watches cartoons and smokes weed

    • @depressoespresso3931
      @depressoespresso3931 5 років тому +45

      beep boop kimchi SHE SMOKES WEED BEFORE CONCERTS (also still on Mel’s side)

  • @jagg5404
    @jagg5404 6 років тому +1390

    Melanie said in her first statement that they only had a "Close friendship for a period of time." Whilst Timothy said they were, "Best friends." Lmao- I like the jab at Timothy

  • @flyingshakabrahs
    @flyingshakabrahs 10 днів тому +23

    the fact UA-cam is recommending me this years later

  • @muddigutz
    @muddigutz 6 років тому +384

    tHe PsYcHiC sAiD wE cAnT bE fRiEnDs AnYmOrE *wHEEZE*

    • @nimrahpeeps876
      @nimrahpeeps876 5 років тому +1

      toastiest popcorn psychic doesn’t tell anyone who and who not to be friends with hellers such a liar 😡😡

    • @nimrahpeeps876
      @nimrahpeeps876 5 років тому +1

      hi owo I wasn’t saying it directly to her I was just ranting 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @brisawaight4667
      @brisawaight4667 5 років тому

      @@rainyw1nd very.!!

    • @SailorSaiyan9000
      @SailorSaiyan9000 7 днів тому

      The psychic was lowkey right though 🫣

  • @aubreylea3303
    @aubreylea3303 6 років тому +294

    When I was about eight, I was in second grade, I had a little boy grope me for awhile in front of multiple students or teachers, none of them noticed and I was really scared of making a scene and standing up for my self. I told my mom a month after it happened and it took so long for her to believe me. It's most likely like this because of people like Heller and others. It makes me sick knowing someone would lie about that serious of a crime for attention. I hope she goes to prison for what she did, without probation.

    • @emely6143
      @emely6143 6 років тому +4

      Aubrey Crigler no one cares loser

    • @outsetmoon
      @outsetmoon 6 років тому +46

      Woop Woop ???? Like no one cares about your life? Becuase you don't have one. Maybe you should try to find one instead of trying to bring others down.

    • @aubreylea3303
      @aubreylea3303 6 років тому +31

      Woop Woop I'm sorry but what did I do to tick you off?

    • @oliakeung7204
      @oliakeung7204 6 років тому +22

      Aubrey Crigler DONT bother with him, some people just have a hard head

    • @Aliceuhhh-rq6gw
      @Aliceuhhh-rq6gw 6 років тому +37

      Woop Woop
      Wow do you not realize how painful that kind of experience is and how ashamed one feels when such a thing occurs, especially when your own family doesn't believe you? You should be ashamed of typing those words. I suggest you either don't come back to this comment section again after reading this or apologize for your hurtful actions.

  • @Mexicantajin19
    @Mexicantajin19 6 років тому +5161

    Pacify her: shes lying with thos words
    Cake: I'm not a piece of cake
    Teddy bear: how did love become so violent
    Carousel: its all fun in games til somebody falls in love
    Piggyback:your lyin your way to try and gain a piece of me

  • @SN-mb6kv
    @SN-mb6kv 4 роки тому +908

    2 years later, TIMOTHY IS STILL BEOCHING ON FRIKIN TOCTOCK

    • @calamamder7077
      @calamamder7077 4 роки тому +6

      little Bella yep

    • @cynthiadavidson1059
      @cynthiadavidson1059 4 роки тому +31

      Time for Timothy to grow up

    • @kiut96tkm
      @kiut96tkm 4 роки тому +56

      She should just get over it, her music is not good and even Melanie haters don't know her name. It's both funny and sad to see that her song Sleep got 800k streams, See Ya! 100k, all because people felt sorry for her, but her recent songs can't even get past 10k streams... meanwhile more people is starting to find out the true and Melanie is getting more love and support.

    • @alssy468
      @alssy468 4 роки тому +11

      She even posted on Instagram a whole text about the rape thing, there's a rumour that the people who were going to make the Play Date remix saw it and cancelled the remix

    • @kodathy9386
      @kodathy9386 3 роки тому +9

      she talks about how people wont let it go, but she is the only one who wont stop talking about it. no one could have been publicly harassing her about the incident because she has her comments on everything turned off most of the time, and most of her dms are positive and people encouraging her to tell the truth.

  • @murdoxxed
    @murdoxxed 6 років тому +4046

    Dear all the people burning her merch:
    You're burning money just to make a(n invalid) point.

    • @katek8311
      @katek8311 6 років тому +377

      edgy kid I really hope it was their own money and not their parents'

    • @STARYSI
      @STARYSI 6 років тому +130

      edgy kid ikr Like give it to MEE or sell it lmao

    • @quetsie0
      @quetsie0 6 років тому +21

      Melanie isn’t a good person regardless of if any of this is true or not

    • @foreverandalways4592
      @foreverandalways4592 6 років тому +97

      Still paid money, still contributed to Melanie's music, people burning merch are just wasting Money, time, resources for making fires, and probably making a useless fire that could (depending on how it's dealt with) be a danger

    • @redacted000
      @redacted000 6 років тому +24

      Yeah I sadly admit I was one of the few that did this (I just threw it away not burned) and I feel horrible now,,, such a fucking waste of money too,,,,

  • @mxplechii
    @mxplechii 5 років тому +1559

    Timothy: Stop trying to derail my argument with facts!

    • @kissedbythevoid
      @kissedbythevoid 5 років тому +13

      What facts lol? There's barely any proof on either side.

    • @melitini
      @melitini 5 років тому +64

      fan of the xx the fact the melanie was across the country at the time, or that tim dresses up as melanie after she claims she was raped

    • @kissedbythevoid
      @kissedbythevoid 5 років тому +3

      @@melitini the date thing was cleared Timothy tried normalizing all of that lol idk why people expect her to remember the exact date of something she tried to normalize i-

    • @BratzRockAngels
      @BratzRockAngels 5 років тому +68

      @@kissedbythevoid There's proof that she changed her story like 4 times. First she said that she couldn't say no to Mel, then she said that she told Mel no multiple times, then she said that Mel forced her to smoke weed and that she didn't like to smoke weed, even though there were multiple photos of her smoking weed recently before the situation. Then she said that she was not into anything sexual, but then she was on a sexual website and she recommended the sexual game that she and Mel played, and she's currently posting sexual picture on her media. She changes her story like tons of times. Now that I think about it, there's way more evidence proving that Timothy lied, and there's like no evidence that Melanie did it. 💜

    • @kissedbythevoid
      @kissedbythevoid 5 років тому +2

      @@BratzRockAngels there's no legit evidence that melanie DIDN'T Do it either

  • @gameboyhotline3712
    @gameboyhotline3712 6 років тому +5221

    I think you are very brave for everything you said including your own personal experience, god bless you

    • @lee.nightcore7362
      @lee.nightcore7362 6 років тому +31

      Thank god someone is able to speak their opinion without getting lynched by the public....

    • @diamercadoo3627
      @diamercadoo3627 6 років тому +9

      Lee Sakamaki ikr

  • @thatrobloxalieneveryoneloves
    @thatrobloxalieneveryoneloves Місяць тому +453

    whose back in 2024 because Timothy brought it up again 😃

  • @coleen9278
    @coleen9278 6 років тому +4967

    When I heard the allegations against melanie, I wasn't on anyone's side bc I believed you're not guilty/innocent until proven. But ended up siding with melanie ofc bc timothy's story just didn't add up.

    • @thepoet9134
      @thepoet9134 6 років тому +49

      coleen bean me too

    • @booseungkwansboo6442
      @booseungkwansboo6442 6 років тому +34

      coleen bean exactly what I did

    • @nico-ir4cf
      @nico-ir4cf 6 років тому +45

      coleen bean exactly. I heard from several people and sites that Timothy fessed up and said she lied

    • @midasified
      @midasified 6 років тому +24

      coleen bean same but I’ve always sided with Martinez lol

    • @aceren1696
      @aceren1696 6 років тому +21

      coleen bean same. Also I didnt even know Timothy at the time

  • @CrazedSmiles
    @CrazedSmiles 5 років тому +818

    Ngl I fully stopped believing Heller when she tried to diss Billie, like it felt overly obvious like trying to draw in more attention

    • @editsandstuff6431
      @editsandstuff6431 5 років тому +15

      She did? What did she do??

    • @CrazedSmiles
      @CrazedSmiles 5 років тому +7

      @@editsandstuff6431 honestly it's way too long to explain, I'd advice you Google it

    • @editsandstuff6431
      @editsandstuff6431 5 років тому +12

      @@CrazedSmiles ok lmao I know Billie probably handled it but thank you😂

    • @astridnannini
      @astridnannini 5 років тому +38

      @@editsandstuff6431 just incase u still don't know she accused her of wearing revealing clothing and being friends with rappers she shouldn't be even saying she shouldn't have missed xxxtentacion because she shouldn't have even known him

    • @infinitelyperfect.
      @infinitelyperfect. 5 років тому +3

      TheLunaticArtist Billie and Melanie now isn’t that perfect.

  • @lcxic
    @lcxic 6 років тому +1801

    Timothy is just trying to come after other artists. She’s trying to come for Billie Eilish now

    • @zoerose5320
      @zoerose5320 6 років тому +118

      lexie c. Wait how, I don’t really use social media that much and I’m obv don’t follow Timothy lol,but I just wondering how she’s coming after Billie

    • @emmyrakes
      @emmyrakes 6 років тому +209

      oh don’t forget she said social repose (i don’t like him but she was WRONG for this) was racist and has a bad voice and started to make fun of him . but she claims she’s a mental health advocate ..?? she’s extremely hypocritical and ig she just LOVES drama !!!

    • @emmyrakes
      @emmyrakes 6 років тому +128

      Zoe Struck she’s saying she’s sexualized and shouldn’t hang with rappers and feel bad for X for all the things he was accused for . it’s a mess .

    • @zoerose5320
      @zoerose5320 6 років тому +5

      ArcherGirl200 thanks!

    • @abi1367
      @abi1367 6 років тому +35

      Is she? I love Billie

  • @SquidSquid7
    @SquidSquid7 9 днів тому +24

    just remember that every situation is different. as a victim as well, i stayed in contact with my rapist and we did hang out multiple times after the incident. everyones story is unique.

    • @LesbianShenYuan
      @LesbianShenYuan 9 днів тому +15

      right. like WOAH someone isn’t a perfect victim 🙀 clearly everything they say must be a lie 🫵

    • @SquidSquid7
      @SquidSquid7 5 днів тому +6

      @@LesbianShenYuan LITERALLY. im sick of seeing victim blaming everywhere just because they like the accused 😖

    • @LesbianShenYuan
      @LesbianShenYuan 5 днів тому +3

      @@SquidSquid7 right. a lot of rapists go after people who look up to them BECAUSE of that

  • @thebxsketcxse
    @thebxsketcxse 6 років тому +779

    Not to mention Timothy changed her story like 10 times. I wish I could forget what happened when I was sexually assaulted. I wish I could have to be like "Sorry I get mixed up sometimes. It's hard to remember". I know it's different for everyone but... Still.

    • @JohnSmith-bg2yu
      @JohnSmith-bg2yu 6 років тому +33

      amnesia's actually a really common side effect of trauma. i didn't get it either, my memories of what happened are pretty high-def, but a lot of people who experience a traumatic event can end up with jumbled recollections that their brain has difficulty processing and thus gets kinda "stuck" on.

    • @milososa3215
      @milososa3215 6 років тому +22

      I was sexually abused when I was 15, I’m 19 now and part of me suppressed part of it. I can not remember details like I used to. Sometimes they come, sometimes they go. It makes my anxiety hell cause sometimes out of nowhere I remember it all, sometimes i don’t remember part of it. But thing is, after 4 years, I was just brave enough to tell 3 ppl. I don’t go around gossiping about it or detailing it, cause it makes me feel guilty/nauseous.

    • @CM-cu7ve
      @CM-cu7ve 6 років тому +6

      thebxsketcxse that’s the main reason why I’ve always believed Melanie.

    • @thatonekokichikinnie9476
      @thatonekokichikinnie9476 6 років тому +3

      She has borderline

    • @OatsTheOcelot
      @OatsTheOcelot 6 років тому +9

      thebxsketcxse yeah I understand maybe messing up a tiny bit but staying the dates, what happened and every single thing, yeah I stopped believing pretty quickly

  • @phirerising
    @phirerising 5 років тому +2046

    I can't stand people who lie about being raped. Especially not as someone who's had to go through sexual assault multiple times... I hope you're okay!!

    • @zuriv730
      @zuriv730 4 роки тому +43

      Hey, i just want to say, Thank you for staying strong... what you would've had to go through would've been awful!! sending love 🥺❤️

    • @retana0612
      @retana0612 4 роки тому +8

      Yeah same with me!

    • @ilovemycatspaws2234
      @ilovemycatspaws2234 3 роки тому +9

      As someone who also had to go
      Through that.. it’s truly disturbing

    • @kimpedersen5708
      @kimpedersen5708 3 роки тому +4

      but Timothy didn't lie.

    • @rekzahar2437
      @rekzahar2437 2 роки тому +25

      @@kimpedersen5708 Didn't she admit to lying..?

  • @boo3070
    @boo3070 6 років тому +296

    I never really believed Timothy. At first I kinda went ‘oh shit’ but I actually looked into it because I like Martinez and I do not condone rape or molestation but I don’t condone false accusations either. I feel like some don’t realize the actual damage someone can do by false accusations. I had a friend who one of her best friends was accused of rape and everyone had turned their backs on him and nobody believed him and he had taken his life within months. My poor friend was devastated and the girl continued on saying she was mourning him. Rape is not ok in any way, shape or form but neither is false accusations just because you want attention.

  • @meghanzimmerman9327
    @meghanzimmerman9327 4 роки тому +356

    *_“thE pHySiC sAid wE cOuLdN’t bE fRiEnDs aNymoRe”_*

  • @floraltsanimations3687
    @floraltsanimations3687 6 років тому +811

    I never believed heller in the start.

    • @sanapomu
      @sanapomu 6 років тому +16

      Floralts animations me neither when I found out about this drama, I didn't believe her (because most of he things here)

    • @ashpendragon6095
      @ashpendragon6095 6 років тому +4

      Same

    • @missmadness4162
      @missmadness4162 6 років тому +43

      Not just that, but nobody knew this chick until it happened

    • @skeletal9348
      @skeletal9348 6 років тому +1

      Same

    • @menacedog8522
      @menacedog8522 6 років тому +1

      Totally

  • @erikadicesare1011
    @erikadicesare1011 6 років тому +746

    I have a friend in grade 7 who lied about a teacher touching her sexually and due to this she got suspended :)

    • @radioactive_baby
      @radioactive_baby 5 років тому +15

      @Kasey Lock Honestly

    • @anac9428
      @anac9428 5 років тому +11

      I mean that's really not your business to be saying online but that's just my opinion

    • @heccinifel833
      @heccinifel833 5 років тому +58

      @@anac9428 I mean, they didn't give out names and I doubt people are going to track this suspended girl down

    • @anac9428
      @anac9428 5 років тому +6

      @@heccinifel833 true

    • @jennaedits6620
      @jennaedits6620 5 років тому +18

      shoot me that was probably horrible having to look the teacher in the eye when she got back

  • @ravynwithers6866
    @ravynwithers6866 6 років тому +611

    In one of Hellers UA-cam videos she actually said that she would release the music video for her single once she got more publicity. Then the whole rape accusations came about. Coincidence??

    • @eden3815
      @eden3815 6 років тому +32

      Ravyn Withers NOPE not a coincidence the hellers story doesn’t add up AT ALL

    • @gabm5967
      @gabm5967 6 років тому +1

      I hope this is true, do you have a source?

    • @MellyFoxy
      @MellyFoxy 6 років тому +23

      if that was true (that i really belive it was) it’s such a dick move man, she’s appealing for P I T Y and for me that’s the shittiest thing someone could do, people are not listening to her music because is GOOD but bc they feel sorry for her and that’s just so not right ;n;

    • @ravynwithers6866
      @ravynwithers6866 6 років тому +3

      Gab Morton she said it in one of her own videos on her UA-cam channel. I’m not sure which video.

    • @amandawright5163
      @amandawright5163 6 років тому +2

      i think not

  • @TheVoiceInEvery1sHead
    @TheVoiceInEvery1sHead 6 днів тому +21

    This aged like milk

    • @Gachamations-c5x
      @Gachamations-c5x 4 дні тому +1

      More like fine wine

    • @ouracousticlakmesmile
      @ouracousticlakmesmile 3 дні тому +2

      @@Gachamations-c5x Nah, more like raw milk 🫠

    • @Gachamations-c5x
      @Gachamations-c5x 3 дні тому +1

      @@ouracousticlakmesmile People would disagree

    • @ouracousticlakmesmile
      @ouracousticlakmesmile 3 дні тому +2

      @@Gachamations-c5x People who like sa 🥺

    • @sere947
      @sere947 3 дні тому

      @@Gachamations-c5xyou are a Gacha account. You are definitely not old enough to fully grasp the non black and white situation. Be quiet

  • @nikolifegacha
    @nikolifegacha 5 років тому +1411

    As a young artist, I can say that this is beautiful. The shading is perfect. The lighting looks amazing. I love how "SOAP" actually looks like it's carved in. The bubbles are gorgeous. You deserve more love.

    • @tamtam1019
      @tamtam1019 5 років тому +2

      NIKOOOOOOOOO

    • @nikolifegacha
      @nikolifegacha 5 років тому +3

      @@tamtam1019 OH HEY

    • @nikolifegacha
      @nikolifegacha 5 років тому +9

      @iced tea I know? I mean drawing. I don't post art stuff on my channel because it isn't an art channel.

    • @spongebobsquarepants9622
      @spongebobsquarepants9622 5 років тому +3

      iced tea it does not count as animation either tbh don’t come for my ass

    • @mamlvr
      @mamlvr 5 років тому +8

      nico nico
      NI

  • @devin6689
    @devin6689 6 років тому +1977

    I stuck with Melanie through this situation not because she is my idol and favorite singer but because I myself have been falsely accused and know how awful it feels. It's so triggering to me when I get shit from her haters calling me a "rape apologist" for supporting her meanwhile when I was accused I needed the support my friends and family gave me. The person who accused me was my best friends brother and he has since admitted to lying but his family still hates me and and treats me like a monster. It's important to support potential victims of assault but it's just as important to acknowledge that not everyone is truthful so you shouldn't attack and harass the accused person until they're found guilty in a court of law.

    • @esthercan3969
      @esthercan3969 6 років тому +126

      Devin I'm so sorry that happened to you but I hope things turn for the better with your situation.

    • @beaventrice
      @beaventrice 6 років тому +2

      .

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat 6 років тому +105

      i’m so sorry, both for those accusations and the crap from Melanie haters. tbh i left Timothy’s side a long time ago after she started mixing up the dates and making her story really confusing

    • @ishredchildreninboxfans754
      @ishredchildreninboxfans754 6 років тому +2

      Why did he do that

    • @charlielittle482
      @charlielittle482 6 років тому +127

      My cousin was falsely accused as well, and it makes me so mad to see other people crying rape when it didn't happen. He was kicked out of his home, and left homeless for a year until the person admitted they lied. It overshadows all the other rape victims that we're actually assaulted. There are victims that are ignored and don't get believed in because of the assholes who deceive others just to get attention

  • @flamingfairy9
    @flamingfairy9 6 років тому +403

    “i don’t really expect a lot of views on this”
    *gets more than half a million views on this*

    • @marioof8285
      @marioof8285 6 років тому

      Datboi less than 200 to go.

  • @mackdogg2722
    @mackdogg2722 6 років тому +1454

    Personally, i think they had sex (and it was consentual) but timothy's boyfriend found out, and Timothy panicked and said it was rape.

    • @chickennuggetz5632
      @chickennuggetz5632 6 років тому +152

      How come I believe that actually is what happened?

    • @swaymj6792
      @swaymj6792 6 років тому +18

      Alicat xox because it is

    • @creedbro257
      @creedbro257 6 років тому +170

      Jesus.. that actually makes a ton of sense. I never thought about that until now.

    • @loonatic7898
      @loonatic7898 6 років тому +18

      Prasinophobia GENIOUS

    • @rottendahlia
      @rottendahlia 6 років тому +3

      Y ES ME TOO OMF

  • @thanhl9794
    @thanhl9794 6 років тому +2391

    Is no one gonna talk about the art?? It's so good. And I agree, Timothy needs to be stopped. Good thing she has lost reliability in her statements and is losing followers.

    • @peachyjimin2741
      @peachyjimin2741 6 років тому +29

      i like bts and i want to die i see another army on every video i click

    • @moiramargeret5047
      @moiramargeret5047 6 років тому +3

      If its on the twitter it might just be them purging bots.

    • @Machii08
      @Machii08 6 років тому +10

      i like bts and i want to die Every single video I watch I find a army on the comments 😂😂

    • @imconfused3003
      @imconfused3003 6 років тому +31

      Ohmygosh bts has a big fan base. Of course you're gonna come across an army everywhere you go. So stop pointing it out. It's annoying

    • @hilakleiner764
      @hilakleiner764 6 років тому +3

      I'm confused lmaoo for real

  • @donnaber4987
    @donnaber4987 6 років тому +797

    “oh no, an opinion”
    *welcome to the internet~*
    edit: what happened omg im famous now

    • @kittycat418gaming4
      @kittycat418gaming4 6 років тому +2

      gallon o’ bleach yes and any one who says otherwise is dangerous and god forbid open minded

    • @kittycat418gaming4
      @kittycat418gaming4 6 років тому +2

      gallon o’ bleach or even worse .......... a mindful person who wants to seek out all sides of the story and try to understand and find the truth that may contradict someone’s opinion

    • @michellevelasco8882
      @michellevelasco8882 6 років тому +1

      LOOL I'm legit listening to Panic Room Au/Ra and when I started reading your comment while reading welcome to the internet the song said welcome to the panic room LMFAO

    • @weirdoontheinternet
      @weirdoontheinternet 6 років тому +1

      gallon o’ bleach I said that to half my whole family

  • @ChatMort69420
    @ChatMort69420 4 роки тому +104

    The thing that made my decision for me was that Heller was whining nonstop on Twitter about not getting any likes or attention on her posts, then immediately posted the accusation. Obviously that's not enough evidence to make a concrete decision, but from the get-go, it looked like a scummy way to siphon off someone else's success and relevance.

  • @ava2529
    @ava2529 5 років тому +927

    timothy just wanted fame. she didn't care about friendship. she was just like "ok, so, maybe I can put my friend's fame in the dumpster and once it's withered i can take it and make it my own." it's so stupid. melanie is talented and i *know* timothy is lying.

    • @omgemojiis2603
      @omgemojiis2603 5 років тому +20

      Melanie even made Piggyback to show that Heather is a fake friend and a liar

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 5 років тому +25

      It blew up in her face later. By ruining Melanie’s reputation ], she ruined her own if she even had one to begin with and now she’s always going to be known as the girl that accused Melanie Martinez of rape.

    • @michfreedom2588
      @michfreedom2588 5 років тому +11

      Pathetic Actually she’ll be the girl that falsely accused Melanie Martinez of rape.

    • @dawnbrown6330
      @dawnbrown6330 5 років тому +8

      I feel like this entire was revenge for her dropping her as a friend OR she wired in her brain that Melanie raped her because of Melanie dropped her as a friend. It’s in her statement that “she dropped me as a friend after that” or “she would get upset when I would vent because it ruined her day” Timothy has BPD and could’ve have overthought the situation and believed it was rape. Remember the statement had been dropped right after Melanie and Timothy stopped being friends

    • @self-love2355
      @self-love2355 4 роки тому +8

      dawn brown I agree. Timothy was mad and jealous that when Melanie got famous she stopped hanging out with her so she spread lies about her to get back at her for dropping her as a friend. It’s so stupid honestly, like Timothy has wasted so much time with this bullshit.

  • @jenny-qm9sz
    @jenny-qm9sz 6 років тому +524

    Coming from a Melanie Martinez fan of two and a half years, I initially was neutral and posted evidence for both sides on my fan account (melsmelatonin). After digging deeper and finding out about Timothy dropping previous close friends, about her BPD and how her story changed multiple times, I just couldn't believe her anymore. People who hear about the situation just automatically believe the accuser without bothering to dig into it themselves and making a valid opinion. Timothy is also coming for other artists now, making me believe she generally just wants attention as everything with Mel has died down to an extent. There is so much more to the story that people don't analyse and I'm sick of it.

    • @princessofstars666
      @princessofstars666 6 років тому +21

      also am i the only one that doesn't believe timothy's friend that came out either? seems to me like she just did that to help timothy's case but ya know

    • @apll1736
      @apll1736 5 років тому

      @@bloodredrose1266 She can't help herself. She's doing this on impulse because of her disorder.

    • @angellovea4389
      @angellovea4389 5 років тому +1

      Hypocritical YT oh wow, so cute!! Everyone cares about Melanie’s mental health and her “anxiety!1!1” but invalidate someone with a debilitating disorder. You have no idea what’s it like for people with BPD, this comment is so disgusting. And you wrote it for what? To defend a 24 year old woman who dresses like a child and sings in a squeaky indie voice.

    • @apll1736
      @apll1736 5 років тому

      @@hypocriticalyt4094 Your username matches you perfectly, a hypocrite. Timothy cannot "fuck her disorder" instead she has to suffer through it. Stop making Melanie the main victim because in reality, Timothy is a victim of her own mental disorder that was triggered by Melanie in SOME sort way.

    • @yoitsme5640
      @yoitsme5640 5 років тому +1

      @@angellovea4389 I agree about the thing about bpd. However Melanie's character is not really how she acts. And her singing voice isn't squeaky, and how would she change her voice.

  • @cometthestar6575
    @cometthestar6575 6 років тому +689

    I mean, I'd like to believe Melanie is innocent, because innocent until proven guilty. I've pretty much remained neutral. I listen to her music, and I still will. This hasn't really phased my love for her art.

    • @xxsimplychamorroxx2058
      @xxsimplychamorroxx2058 6 років тому +4

      Denver Pettit, ik she's a shy person, I shy person is so innocent so that's I don't believe Timothy Heller.

    • @artemischii
      @artemischii 6 років тому

      Same same

    • @elviradistress
      @elviradistress 6 років тому +4

      nice pfp

    • @lone6718
      @lone6718 6 років тому +18

      I do believe Melanie, primary because Timothy has admitted to having a mental illness that alters her perception of events that occur in her life. (And I have heard of other people tell stories when living with a similar or same illness and how completely off their recollections were.) Aside Mel’s Corner has done a good job filtering through much of the “evidence” provided, and I do believe they touch on the BPD issue.

    • @deanna7817
      @deanna7817 6 років тому

      Im also neutral

  • @star-vs8qn
    @star-vs8qn 2 місяці тому +44

    As a borderline it hurts alot that everything I hear about borderlines is that we're toxic, need attention, literally all negative stuff. After being diagnosed I'm hyper aware of everything I do and try to stop and think before I say/do things. I wonder is this the borderline or is this really something i need to say? I'm trying hard to grow and be better and to not "swing at people for no reason" and it just hurts that no one is really willing to give me a chance to

    • @cupidkitty6668
      @cupidkitty6668 2 місяці тому +10

      Don't listen to them, they are dehumanizing people with personality disorders and its fucking disgusting, not to mention they aren't even a psychologist or psychiatrist. They're speaking misconceptions and misinformation which in turn hurts people who actually have those disorders.

    • @micahszxs
      @micahszxs Місяць тому +1

      @@star-vs8qn youre extremely valid, of course, not everyone with bpd is this bad 🫶

    • @star-vs8qn
      @star-vs8qn Місяць тому +1

      @mxls.crvb4by I appreciate it, thank you. But I do wish we weren't perceived as inherently bad

  • @ghostytrickster4673
    @ghostytrickster4673 5 років тому +630

    Heller got jealous because Melanie was a singer and they weren't hanging out as much and Melanie had more attettion than Heller

    • @sourcherrii1604
      @sourcherrii1604 4 роки тому +14

      Heller jealous.

    • @gachafall3186
      @gachafall3186 4 роки тому +7

      Yup and I just noticed her Heller has Hell in it xD

    • @AlixDaAxo
      @AlixDaAxo Місяць тому

      Yeah and Timothy prolly twisted the story for fame, and bc it backfired now we’re supposed to feel bad or something?

    • @CupiidCvroo
      @CupiidCvroo Місяць тому

      @@AlixDaAxo You are truly disgusting. I am sorry but if you had one bit empathy you would understand that when people go through stuff like this they may forget some stuff because it was so traumatizing, imagine if you were in her shoes, HAVE A LITTLE EMPATHY. I know you are a Melanie fan or something but everyone can do bad stuff, and Melanie doesn't know how consent works, cause she said that Timothy didn't say 'no' seriously? Being silent doesn't mean people can consent. Melanie is suspicious. Just don't support one side or other and wait to see whos right. What you are doing right now is disgusting. If you weren't in her shoes then don't say this.💀

  • @rubyuribe8140
    @rubyuribe8140 5 років тому +3215

    Facts in 3, 2, 1...
    **Timothy wanted fame**

  • @norgam5078
    @norgam5078 6 років тому +481

    *I never believed her from the start, why would anyone believe someone who went to TWITTER first then the police, I hate how people were just leaving melanie*

    • @valeriabalcazar7736
      @valeriabalcazar7736 6 років тому +39

      I think Timothy didn’t even report the case to the police, or if she did I didn’t see or hear it anywhere

    • @norgam5078
      @norgam5078 6 років тому

      Valeria Balcazar exactly

    • @Angie......
      @Angie...... 6 років тому

      PropaneAndCocaine • true

    • @mlpbff24
      @mlpbff24 6 років тому

      PropaneAndCocaine • I like your pfp, also yes it's so dumb how she went on social media and didn't go to the police to solve the situation.

    • @mayothecat2411
      @mayothecat2411 6 років тому +22

      I'm not going to lie, when it happened to me I didn't report it anywhere and I'm not likely to report it to the police because the odds are stacked against me. I wouldn't ever broadcast it to a huge audience like she did though, it's really fucking shady

  • @anayaneclos3082
    @anayaneclos3082 4 роки тому +336

    I think Timothy didn’t take this accusation to court bc she knows that she’ll have to pay for the entire investigation if it’s found to be false. Meaning that if the police, fbi, whomever is investigating her case finds that the case is made up she’ll have to pay for the money the police spent on the investigation. So she wouldn’t take it to court bc she knows she’s wrong.

    • @psychomaia
      @psychomaia 4 роки тому +29

      Ummm even when it’s true you’ll most likely get called a liar and won’t see any conviction. I understand we all love Melanie but stop with the harmful messages that are being centred around sexual assault against women in most of these comments. Stop telling women to go to the police or go to court, the law is not in a sexual assaults victims favour, it sided with rapists.

    • @amantyde
      @amantyde 3 роки тому +15

      @@psychomaia
      She wasn’t even raped, the people in the comments are just telling on how easy it was to realize it was all fake.

    • @kyaschafer7357
      @kyaschafer7357 3 роки тому +8

      @@psychomaia Please stop talking as if Timothy was raped. She wasn't. And it's been proven time and time again.

    • @gabriellelister7669
      @gabriellelister7669 Рік тому +1

      @@psychomaia legit tho. They told my dad they wouldn’t ruin his future because he “sweet talked”-ew- me. He died of an overdose this year. The police don’t gaf.

    • @psychomaia
      @psychomaia Рік тому +3

      @@amantyde I understand that and I’m on Melanie’s side in this but people in the comments are using victim shaming tactics to prove timothy is a liar. There’s ways to discredit her by sticking with facts instead of trying to paint the image of what a victim should’ve said or done.

  • @madisonm7859
    @madisonm7859 5 років тому +873

    I know this is a serious video but...
    3:42 *Melanie with a bowlcut*

  • @ishouldhelpthisguy
    @ishouldhelpthisguy 6 років тому +3177

    I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers and views. You're a phenomenal artist and you have a good personality in my opinion. I appreciate how you stated the facts and otherwise "suspicious" elements about this whole drama. I personally do not believe Timothy either. Anyways, since you are open to Melanie now, I really do recommend listening to her music and getting to know her a little better. Her music is what people would call "deep" and "real", and has helped numerous people throughout hard times including myself. Plus, she's just such a great person. Anyways (for the second time), do so as you wish and I hope you get recognized for your art!! Oh, and if I sound weird or something it's because it's 4 in the morning right now and I'm actually about to die.

    • @TheCrowFKAPS
      @TheCrowFKAPS  6 років тому +65

      thank you

    • @TheCrowFKAPS
      @TheCrowFKAPS  6 років тому +27

      thank you, i had no idea! that makes a few things way clearer. i also have a minor in literature, and i was driving myself crazy trying to draw parallels between her album and her personal life, particularly her family. i'm still getting mixed vibes between birthing addicts and her brief mention of her parents on piggyback though. w/e i'm slowly becoming addicted, it shouldn't be long now

    • @kenavandersluis3187
      @kenavandersluis3187 6 років тому +1

      Springtrap Mime ikr

    • @bubbles4897
      @bubbles4897 6 років тому

      No offense but she romanticizes mental illness and she never said that the album was inspired by real life experiences

    • @ishouldhelpthisguy
      @ishouldhelpthisguy 6 років тому +23

      Jayden Hutchinson no offense but she does not romanticize mental illness

  • @vapxrangel_
    @vapxrangel_ 6 років тому +404

    5 minutes in the video and all i wanna do is to protect you

    • @emmarisby
      @emmarisby 6 років тому +1

      I know. 3: She sounded so upset. I don't know anything about her but I felt so sad hearing her choke on her words like that, poor thing. >♡< Xx

  • @ninae3783
    @ninae3783 4 роки тому +206

    Im also a sexual assult victim, and i cant even talk about the details, because of how disgusting it was and how uncomfortable it was.

    • @your_dad_on_vacation
      @your_dad_on_vacation 3 роки тому +28

      I know, I was sexually assaulted as a child and I couldn't even write it (for court) without invisioning that night, and feeling everything like it was happening again.
      And when on that night i still remember that i didnt worry about myself, i worried if he did it to his own kids. And the next day he had the AUDACITY to tell me "Don't tell anyone, I don't want to lose my life" or kids dont remember

    • @12toro
      @12toro 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Red_IllumineYou aren't everyone and it is disgusting to use your own experience to demean how others process trauma.

    • @StarStarPlayz
      @StarStarPlayz Місяць тому +3

      @@12torobecause the way people process is similar. Yes it can show different but it’s all the same at the core.

    • @AlixDaAxo
      @AlixDaAxo Місяць тому +4

      I am too but I don’t believe Timothy in this case. She just went on abt it on social media instead of going to court and trying to solve this.

    • @Chickennugget29901
      @Chickennugget29901 17 днів тому

      ​@@AlixDaAxoyou realize sa cases are extremely hard to defend against normal people, we are now talking about a celebrity. Also 4 people have claimed Melanie sa'd them. Do your research. Hope this helps!

  • @ladydeath3463
    @ladydeath3463 6 років тому +330

    I suffer from borderline personality disorder, bipolar disorder, anxiety, reactive attachment disorder and ptsd. But I'd never stoop so low as to accuse someone of rape. I've lost friends who found it too exhausting to be around me because all I wanted was to be near them I couldn't be by myself. I was scared of being alone and still am. It's hard. You see things in a completely different way than others. You try too hard. I have irrational fears that result in anger triggered by a simple sentence or look that my brain deems offensive even if after the fact I don't understand why. But there were one or two times where I fucked up and was either too scared or too proud to apologize and admit I was wrong but I did anyways because I can't handle knowingly hurting people I've chosen to cling to.

    • @legend485
      @legend485 6 років тому +10

      Please do not think i am dragging you at all, what i am about to say is in no way meaning to offend you, but please make up your mind on which you are suffering from, bipolar and borderline are on the complete opposite spectrum and you cant suffer from both considering bpd is your emotions changing so often and bipolar is staying in a single emotional state for long periods of time. As someone who has bpd it just kinda messes with me alittle bit when people say this because it also makes you look uneducated/not really diagnosed for it.

    • @alexuswelch3127
      @alexuswelch3127 6 років тому

      Dessy The Awkward I suffer from all of those except PTSD. I can relate completely. :|

    • @Karin91730
      @Karin91730 6 років тому +2

      People react and do things differently. Just because two people are diagnosed BPD or bipolar, that doesn't mean they will do the same thing. Every individual is different.

  • @aleahc1379
    @aleahc1379 6 років тому +502

    This is still going on? Lol I thought we all agreed that Timothy was a liar a while ago?

  • @KadaArt
    @KadaArt 6 років тому +1311

    Tbh I was never really a Melanie fan. Like I knew some songs but I didn't really care much about her and I didn't really go searching for them or anything and I mean that in the least shitty way possible. But it really pissed me off that people really believed Timothy without even trying to find out the story themselves. It's like they felt like just because rape was what she was accusing her of there was no way she could possibly be lying even though the evidence is right there. Idiotic "fans" threw out their merch and ultimately wasted their money which really irked me. I still am not really a fan of her but I will sure as hell defend her in this. It isn't fair to Melanie and it isn't fair to those who have actually been raped.

    • @alli-j1311
      @alli-j1311 6 років тому +13

      Kada Art preach sister or brother ☺☺☺

    • @ellibeth7146
      @ellibeth7146 6 років тому +20

      Kada Art you are so mature oml

    • @edenstrausbaugh5594
      @edenstrausbaugh5594 6 років тому +11

      You took the words out of my mouth

    • @alainer0611
      @alainer0611 6 років тому +38

      I was so pissed when I saw people throwing away and burning their Melanie merch. I would've done anything to get thatt merch for myself- and I know others would to! They didn't even want to hear her side of the story!

    • @jashaaa4593
      @jashaaa4593 6 років тому +17

      I agree with you 100%. Although I love Melanie. I still do. But in that situation back in December I stayed neutral. I stayed neutral until this was done. But the reason I'm with Mel now is because the more Timothy said, the less I stayed neutral about her. I wasn't a diehard fan of her, but I believed her a bit. And I believed mel. But now I just don't trust Timothy cause the more her stories were being questioned, the more she changed them. That's why I could tell she was lying.

  • @VlogsbyyScar
    @VlogsbyyScar Місяць тому +97

    Seven years ago, when Melanie was famous Timothy brought this up, and she stopped it for seven years but now she’s re-servicing it when Melanie got way more famous it just kind of seems like she’s going for Melanie‘s career

    • @pantamews
      @pantamews Місяць тому +28

      its weird that.. SHE ALWAYS BRINGS IT UP WHEN MEL IS IN HER PEAK!! 💀 LIKE WHY NOW??? WHAT???

    • @SuprS1lly
      @SuprS1lly Місяць тому +27

      She doesn’t really gain anything from it. She’s been doxxed, harassed and bullied.

    • @Hellhenremender222
      @Hellhenremender222 Місяць тому +2

      @@SuprS1llyshe gets ATTENTION period

    • @-Elysionite
      @-Elysionite 19 днів тому +4

      @@Hellhenremender222 negative attention.

    • @Chickennugget29901
      @Chickennugget29901 17 днів тому +2

      @@VlogsbyyScar you realize how triggering it can be to see your abuser all over the internet, right?

  • @parasitophobia
    @parasitophobia 6 років тому +208

    I honestly thought the allegation was fake. Like, she didn't have proof and plenty of people said she might be jealous of Melanie.
    But the "fans" who don't like Melanie anymore kinda sorta made feel bad. If Keller lied about the rape then.. Screw her honestly.
    Btw, I loved the speedpaint and I also loved the thumbnail.
    *oh no. An opinion*

    • @losaunders837
      @losaunders837 5 років тому +2

      PuppyProducts keller hahahahahahahaha

  • @destiny116infinity9
    @destiny116infinity9 6 років тому +1685

    when she said "she never said no" she was replying to the post timothy heller made. She wasn't saying "well she never said no so it must be yes" people just wanted to make it that way.

    • @kittycat418gaming4
      @kittycat418gaming4 6 років тому +45

      Just because she said no doesn’t mean she said yes

    • @OverratedPerson22
      @OverratedPerson22 6 років тому +183

      kittycat418gaming I agree, but that wasn't the whole statement and as the fist commenter explained, it was an answer to Timothy's post where she said she kept saying no. The statemente was "She never said no to what we CHOSE to do together"

    • @kittycat418gaming4
      @kittycat418gaming4 6 років тому +14

      Potato Bangtan what WE CHOSE can also could be one sided but we will never know what happened for now we may just speculate but still what WE CHOSE to do means had to have said was yes so some one is lying but it doesn’t make it any better if she never said she agreed to it or did not and we won’t ever really know the truth

    • @alanna7395
      @alanna7395 6 років тому +51

      If she didn't want to then why didn't she say no. Plus how do you know she didn't say yes

    • @tiffanygranados9687
      @tiffanygranados9687 6 років тому +41

      It's funny because the picture Timothy uses as proof has Melanie with fluffy handcuffs. Which is what bugs me???

  • @lachanclavictim7694
    @lachanclavictim7694 6 років тому +1599

    Im sorry for what happened to you

  • @Jasmine-wj3zd
    @Jasmine-wj3zd Місяць тому +46

    Never realized how bad and insensitive of a video this is…

    • @frogperson5860
      @frogperson5860 17 днів тому

      @@Jasmine-wj3zd how so? I’m genuinely wondering

  • @sparksflylove
    @sparksflylove 6 років тому +425

    I’ve gone through a lot of sexual assault and rape personally, and I really hate talking about it. It’s uncomfortable, I don’t like going into detail, and I certainly wouldn’t spend all day every day talking about it. I initially supported Timothy because it’s hard to doubt a rape victim. I followed her on Twitter and I even talked to her a bit, and basically all she wanted to talk about was Melanie. It’s like she was fixated on her and obsessed in a very unhealthy way. It was obvious that she was truly enjoying all of the attention she was getting, and small details in her story were changing. I got really tired of seeing her attack people on Twitter that doubt her and I didn’t want to constantly see all of her uncomfortable tweets about Melanie, which she would post 24/7. I unfollowed her back in January. I assumed that she would calm down about all the rape dialogue after a few weeks, but a few days ago I checked her Twitter again and she’s still talking about it every day. I get that she has BPD but that really has nothing to do with the fact that she’s extremely obsessed with Melanie. She needs to stay away from social media for a bit and get some help.

    • @zoemae3638
      @zoemae3638 6 років тому +20

      Hillary Bright how could she STILL talk about it?

    • @sparksflylove
      @sparksflylove 6 років тому +20

      Zoe Mae she’s still talking about it every day, all day long! Check out her Twitter if you don’t believe me lol

    • @zoemae3638
      @zoemae3638 6 років тому +8

      Hillary Bright I believe you, I’m just shook

    • @genevievebowman5243
      @genevievebowman5243 6 років тому +5

      If you know anything about the relationships between victims and their abuser - you would understand that often times the obsession is a normal state and is very common amongst victims worldwide.

    • @sinhalite
      @sinhalite 6 років тому +5

      timothy having an unhealthy obsession with melanie isn't really proof she was lying, considering I was obsessed with my abuser years after the abuse, feeling like I was useless and missing a part of myself without the abuser.

  • @ellieyukeo5954
    @ellieyukeo5954 6 років тому +570

    I don't like Melanie much.....
    But I HATE when someone (falsely) accuses someone else of rape/etc. So.......

    • @leslie6281
      @leslie6281 6 років тому +19

      Please tell me you meant falsely accussed

    • @mycaleaanistasia8043
      @mycaleaanistasia8043 6 років тому +35

      Im sure thats what she meant?? Its obvious

    • @mayothecat2411
      @mayothecat2411 6 років тому +4

      Mycalea Anistasia you never know, but I'm hoping that's what she meant

    • @ellieyukeo5954
      @ellieyukeo5954 6 років тому +1

      Mayo The Cat Yes, falsely.

    • @ellieyukeo5954
      @ellieyukeo5954 6 років тому +1

      I edited it.

  • @gabri-mf5hc
    @gabri-mf5hc 6 років тому +419

    i do believe timothy is a liar

  • @WhyareyoulookingatmynameGurl
    @WhyareyoulookingatmynameGurl Місяць тому +27

    THE FACT THAT I GOT RECOMMEND THIS BECAUSE HELLER CAME BACK

  • @TheCrowFKAPS
    @TheCrowFKAPS  6 років тому +2359

    hey guys! i must say i've become quite smitten with mel and her music in the past couple of weeks, and am excited for her new album. i even made peace with the song carousel! ha! (also, if you're interested, I just released my very first art book, 10 Years of Sketching: A Coming of Age Portrait of Mental Illness amzn.to/2IPPh9y )
    anyway, on to the point, i want to thank everyone for their time--when i first made this video, i thought i'd just be screaming my opinion into a void. i genuinely thought no one would see it except maybe 2 people. and here i am now with half a million views and thousands of comments--i just can't keep up with them all anymore! so to everyone: thank you for your comments!

    • @SRFreneekitty
      @SRFreneekitty 6 років тому +5

      So odd that I happened upon this video just as you were posting an update! I thoroughly enjoyed your insightful commentary as a victim I too relate. Thank you for being brave and sharing your story and I love your artwork.

    • @helpme7319
      @helpme7319 6 років тому +3

      yay, this vid cleared a lot of explaining for me thank you

    • @user-df5gg2oq8o
      @user-df5gg2oq8o 6 років тому +1

      Do a piece on PlayDate!!! It's my favorite song!!

    • @nikkisreality860
      @nikkisreality860 6 років тому +1

      Wow what you said was really true it opened my eyes and it showed me how evil people can be and how much they crave attention and do horrible things just to get it. Amazing video and amazing artwork by the way

    • @chantolove
      @chantolove 6 років тому +1

      Piper Sweeney also ur drawing of her looks so much like her which is super rare in this fandom lol

  • @jamesnaylor1994
    @jamesnaylor1994 6 років тому +556

    first off, she went on twitter instead of the cops who tf goes on twitter instead. second then she tried coming for billie, and honestly she got famous off of the accusations. and she gets mad and goes on a twitter rant, or tweets a comment how she shouldn’t get hate while she hates on people and makes comments

    • @marthareyes9338
      @marthareyes9338 6 років тому +4

      Queen Bitch what did she say about Billie ?

    • @Nobody-nj9hp
      @Nobody-nj9hp 6 років тому +5

      Martha Reyes ) there's a video about it . I think it's ,, ' Billie Eilish responds to Timothy Heller '

    • @user-es4yw7pv9r
      @user-es4yw7pv9r 6 років тому +4

      Martha Reyes You can probably find a video about it but Timothy was kinda bashing on how Billie's mother let's Billie hang around all these adult men (like other rappers who are only really a couple years older than her) and how Billie cried when X died and supported him when he 'assaulted' his ex gf in the past and etc

    • @blakbeansoup7540
      @blakbeansoup7540 6 років тому

      Queen Bitch ikr!?!?

    • @nya6625
      @nya6625 6 років тому

      Billie Eilish?

  • @MadameMadrigal
    @MadameMadrigal 6 років тому +297

    There's too much mob mentality behind Timothy's accusations. I appreciate you helping me come to my own conclusions about this whole drama. I was torn over the whole thing, and presenting all these facts and psychological points puts me at ease with my decision. Congratulations on your steps to moving on! I'm sorry you felt you needed to share your experience to prove a point, but your strength is almost contagious, and I hope I can face my challenges like you one day.

    • @rodhasmana7306
      @rodhasmana7306 6 років тому

      same, i hope i can be this brave one day

  • @Woofwoof965
    @Woofwoof965 13 днів тому +25

    This did not age well 😭

    • @Strawberry_Shortcake12
      @Strawberry_Shortcake12 11 днів тому +2

      How did it not age well? No one was proven innocent or guilty.

    • @Woofwoof965
      @Woofwoof965 11 днів тому +4

      @@Strawberry_Shortcake12 because she has allegations again currently and it’s better to believe a potential Victim than a potential perpetrator

    • @INFECTEDFSH
      @INFECTEDFSH 5 днів тому

      Naw I think it aged okay

    • @Strawberry_Shortcake12
      @Strawberry_Shortcake12 4 дні тому

      @@Woofwoof965 yeah but it’s also better to leave this case to them and also if this was a real case then it would have been reported to the police before being posted on Twitter

  • @jasmintea8825
    @jasmintea8825 6 років тому +524

    The only argument I hear from Melanie haters is "she admitted it, she said in her statement "she never said no"
    When ppl say this I want to rip out their eyes, can't they red SHE SAID "SHE NEVER SAID NO *TO WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO TOGETHER* "

    • @pineapplejester7191
      @pineapplejester7191 6 років тому +2

      Yato!!

    • @gibgabs2899
      @gibgabs2899 6 років тому

      Jasmin Erdbeerkäse I don’t understand what that means 😭

    • @genevievebowman5243
      @genevievebowman5243 6 років тому +16

      Okay but do you know anything about consent - not answering at all is also NOT grounds for consent.

    • @audreywalker3794
      @audreywalker3794 6 років тому +63

      @@genevievebowman5243 "to what we chose to do together"

    • @soapy2587
      @soapy2587 6 років тому +22

      nozomeme tojo SJSJSJAK THAT WOULD BE SUCH A TURN OFF

  • @renpathy
    @renpathy 6 років тому +640

    hey, this comment is solely to educate people more on bpd.
    i have bpd (borderline personality disorder) and there are different types. i'm a 'quiet type'. usually people with bpd externalise their feelings outwards but i internalise and avoid lashing out on people.
    so guys, please don't assume we're all bad. like i know it's generally the case that certain negative characteristics do apply to people with bpd but it's so freaking hard to deal with it and tell people about my mental condition when there is an awful stigma around it.
    i hate it when people with bpd put a bad name on it. it just SUCKS so much for the rest of us.

    • @ParamoreLoveROCK97
      @ParamoreLoveROCK97 6 років тому +17

      I honestly think people with BPD feel a lot and that can be chaotic, but it’s alright, it’s how your brain works; can it be tiring for people around you? I think it can, as well as my anxiety can be a burden to people around me. I think it’s hard for people to be understanding and communicate and that’s truly the problem. At the end of the day, we all are humans and deserve to be loved and treated with nothing but respect. All the love to you, never be embarrassed about something you can control.

    • @thecircusgrounds
      @thecircusgrounds 6 років тому +1

      Didn't the video say that (I know the comments where being overly harsh but your right)

    • @char9970
      @char9970 5 років тому +1

      I have it too :)

    • @mauddx7418
      @mauddx7418 5 років тому

      Thanks for this

    • @madisonrasmussen2649
      @madisonrasmussen2649 5 років тому +1

      I can relate. My family denies my mental disorders, and says I choose to be like this and unhappy, but i don't.

  • @floridoor
    @floridoor 6 років тому +62

    Honey my heart broke for you when you couldn’t get the words out for your personal experience, I hope you’re okay❤️
    Your drawing style is very unique, it’s really nice

  • @wonkvii7008
    @wonkvii7008 6 днів тому +11

    you're going to feel really dirty after watching the new evidence against her.

  • @ali-hc1rj
    @ali-hc1rj 5 років тому +505

    “I don’t really expect this to have many views”
    *1M views*

  • @raechuuu510
    @raechuuu510 6 років тому +2285

    I absolutely agree with the details thing. I didn't ever think of it when I first heard about the accusations, but thinking about it now... I mean I can barely get the words out when I've talked about my sexual assault experience beyond saying that it happened. I couldn't imagine recalling as many details as she did and being able to say them out loud...
    edit: I am not going to rewrite my original comment, but I just want to say, I don't mean to belittle anyone who reacts different than what I have experienced. my first comment was written too hastily and comes across in a way I didn't intend. I understand that everyone reacts differently. my comment was coming from an emotional place and I was only considering my personal feelings. in no way is this proof or even conclusive evidence of Heller lying. it's just something I hadn't considered until it was brought up. in a sensitive case like this, I believe it's best to consider as much information as you can before making a judgement call and this is just one piece to consider.

    • @a.8901
      @a.8901 6 років тому +16

      That’s why I don’t really believe the whole thing but at the same time idk if Melanie is capable of that. I don’t really pick sides.

    • @xrrgr
      @xrrgr 6 років тому +21

      Well, not everyone reacts to sexual assault the same way. Not saying she didn't lie, but everyone has different reactions

    • @raechuuu510
      @raechuuu510 6 років тому +13

      naomi obi I'm just speaking from my experience and saying I personally couldn't imagine giving that many details. not saying everyone is the same.

    • @xrrgr
      @xrrgr 6 років тому +5

      Rae chuuu I know I was mainly referring to what the uploader said💕

    • @a.8901
      @a.8901 6 років тому +24

      naomi obi I know tons of people who have been raped. Even if it was decades ago they still can’t talk about it or when they do they never go into detail like she did and they’re usually crying during/after. I can say from my experience I’d be uncomfortable going into detail. I didn’t tell anyone about my sexual assault until almost 2 and half years later. (Because of therapy). I’m not really saying she’s lying but it seems like the logical thing to believe.

  • @hhimoutoo
    @hhimoutoo 6 років тому +1124

    Just a heads up she was never Melanie's best friend ever ..... 🤷🏽

    • @TheCrowFKAPS
      @TheCrowFKAPS  6 років тому +107

      yeah i misunderstood *(from heller's statement)

    • @hhimoutoo
      @hhimoutoo 6 років тому +11

      Kitty Kat really what happened?

    • @henhenboben8829
      @henhenboben8829 6 років тому +8

      Just Latinaa actually they were besties for a while. Maybe you should do some research hon.

    • @hhimoutoo
      @hhimoutoo 6 років тому +27

      Ruby’s Ooniverse actually hun Jackie is more of a bestie than Timothy ever could be named a bestie so don't tell me nothing thx

    • @Souprsalad
      @Souprsalad 6 років тому +2

      Just Latinaa try research rather than being condescending.......

  • @bewilderedstar
    @bewilderedstar Місяць тому +47

    I'm not on anyones side of this story but your statements arent exactly true. I was also sa'd and couldnt say no. I also didnt press charges on the girl nor am I angry at her. I'm simply upset and hurt, not everyone does the sames things as you when sa'd. You arent everyone. The way you talked about this was extremely insensitive.

    • @bewilderedstar
      @bewilderedstar Місяць тому +21

      Also "borderlines" can struggle with explaining these situations or talking about it at all. It doesnt always end up as "oh she lied" she's struggling mentally and that could take a toll on why she seems like she's lying.

    • @k4nd1i
      @k4nd1i Місяць тому +8

      literally when i was sa'd years ago (it was cocsa) i remained friends with my abuser 2 years after it happened, i said no A MILLION TIMES but he kept begging me for it so i eventually gave up, it traumatized me for life but i was in denial for a long long long time, i have told the story to only one person since it happened because i am ashamed of it. that means i am not a victim?

    • @Gachamations-c5x
      @Gachamations-c5x 4 дні тому +1

      There are some good points and evidence against Timothy. But people don’t wanna talk about the evidence because it’s always believe the victim no matter what

    • @bewilderedstar
      @bewilderedstar 4 дні тому +2

      @@Gachamations-c5x I am a victim. Saying that you "should have talked sooner" isnt evidence. Its victim blaiming.

    • @Gachamations-c5x
      @Gachamations-c5x 3 дні тому +1

      @@bewilderedstar Never said that specifically was the evidence but ok

  • @yukiandkanamekuran
    @yukiandkanamekuran 6 років тому +2912

    Melanie definitely deals with anxiety and has difficulties with strangers and crowds. So you're definitely right in saying that it's hard for her to assert herself.

    • @AMB-Productions
      @AMB-Productions 6 років тому +52

      Profesional Fangirl I get hella scared (stops breathing near crowds) and if someone did that, I would be so confused and scared.

    • @raddk1tty677
      @raddk1tty677 6 років тому +51

      When people crowd me it makes me feel pressured and I feel like I need to breathe more because it's getting harder..
      Then I end up bursting into tears and usually cling onto my closest friend around me, my friend Lily is like my sister and I feel like she supports me the most in life.

    • @hikaruriko6504
      @hikaruriko6504 6 років тому +1

      yukiandkanamekuran thank god I dont xD

    • @hikaruriko6504
      @hikaruriko6504 6 років тому +1

      Profesional Fangirl same, except for the soxial anxiety part lmao

    • @yukiandkanamekuran
      @yukiandkanamekuran 6 років тому +1

      Riko _Aoi but this is,,, about social anxiety rip (':

  • @daddymememaster9651
    @daddymememaster9651 6 років тому +33

    drama aside can we just take a moment to appreciate this bomb ass art... youre so talented man

  • @thatonekokichikinnie9476
    @thatonekokichikinnie9476 6 років тому +524

    I feel bad for people that burned Melanie Martinez’s merch and cd’s bc when they find out SHE IS INNOCENT 😇 they will say “oh I really messed up!”

    • @ellarose7114
      @ellarose7114 5 років тому +50

      Thatgemini overthere Hate club
      Neighbor:Why are you dumpster diving?
      Former Melanie hater: I HAVE TO FIND MY MELANIE MARTINEZ MERCH THAT I THREW OUT YESTERDAY!
      Neighbor:Oh you mean this merch? *Holds up Crybaby shirt*

    • @sisirobles6914
      @sisirobles6914 5 років тому +18

      I know right, I had a friend who had some Melanie Martinez merch, when she found out about this she threw it all away, we were both fans and she immediately accused Melanie while I waited to hear more from both sides

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis 5 років тому +31

      that's if they ever find out. they might be too ignorant to look into it. that's why people think that johnny depp is an abuser, when he was actually the victim.

    • @marianna-ru3xk
      @marianna-ru3xk 5 років тому +1

      When I saw a video I was like you could give it to me!

    • @yumemiki3786
      @yumemiki3786 5 років тому +6

      @@eveeve2930 listen here honey,rape is a v serious issue and ppl mostly believe the victim,so i really wouldn't blame em

  • @ellasofia8212
    @ellasofia8212 6 років тому +612

    your voice reminds me of violet from the incredibles idk why

  • @tia2676
    @tia2676 2 роки тому +40

    I hate when any (legal) situation involving BPD occurs. It makes us all look evil

  • @dizzy7291
    @dizzy7291 5 років тому +1678

    [late]
    People: Melanie is guilty because Timothy was the victim
    Me: Innocent until proven guilty?
    Them: nO
    Edit: Kinda doesn’t make sense

    • @aleanim7649
      @aleanim7649 5 років тому +110

      spilled tea yea im a big fan of melanie and i went back to look at timothy’s account and she’s trying so hard to be/look like melanie. i also noticed how melanie took a step back from social media and music for a long time because of the hate she received while timothy kept doing it and even released merch while she was receiving hate as well so... just in my opinion i think she did it for attention and im glad melanie is back and strong.

    • @lane525
      @lane525 5 років тому +22

      That was literally my first thought. It's one person's word and it doesn't prove anything. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, doesn't mean it did. But she's innocent until proven guilty :^)

    • @junijupe
      @junijupe 4 роки тому +8

      People chose not to side with Mel because Timothy is white and has BPD ( Borderline Personality Disorder ) so they “felt bad” for her and this country is really racist

    • @dizzy7291
      @dizzy7291 4 роки тому

      B O T A N I C S M O O T H I E Vegan
      Oh, I didn’t know that.

    • @xtonibx5770
      @xtonibx5770 4 роки тому +6

      @@junijupe I doubt this is about race but okay.
      If someone accuses someone else of rape, people are going to believe them. You might disagree with me but I think people are right to stop supporting someone who's been accused of sexual assault, at least until the allegations have been proven true or false.

  • @g59Maddi
    @g59Maddi 5 років тому +710

    Fans in 2018: *burning her merch*
    Fans in 2019: stan Melanie Martinez! Stream K-12!

    • @harryhess7359
      @harryhess7359 4 роки тому +91

      I never believed it, I didn't have any merch anyway because I was/am poor. I know a lie when I see one because I lie so much to get out of trouble

    • @oshaynacampbell9133
      @oshaynacampbell9133 4 роки тому +14

      @@harryhess7359I do to but never ruin a person

    • @itsallforpele
      @itsallforpele 4 роки тому +3

      Actually, *2017

    • @rhiannonlynn7991
      @rhiannonlynn7991 4 роки тому

      Harry Hess Same

    • @tomoriinterlude
      @tomoriinterlude 4 роки тому +2

      @@243_Wadda mood

  • @user-iz3oq1ll5h
    @user-iz3oq1ll5h 4 роки тому +26

    at the end of the day, I believe Melanie did not rape timothy. But I think we still ALWAYS need to believe the victim, whether the oppressor is a woman or someone we stan. I do not believe timothy any longer, but when we first hear about a situation like this, we need to take a step back and put aside our personal love or hatred for someone and believe the victim. if evidence comes out the alleged oppressor did not do those actions, then they didn't. But at the end of the day, I'd take the chance of believing the victim bc the rate for false accusations of rape is 2-10% of all rape/sexual assault reports (and that's the people who did report, and also the victims who didn't go through with the trial because it was too hard or not financially stable are usually put under the false accusation %, so). though today I do love Melanie and I have since her first album, so yeah. this is coming from a stan.

    • @alannahdelrey
      @alannahdelrey 4 роки тому +6

      i wholeheartedly agree. comments like “i never believed timothy” or “melanie wouldn’t do that” are very weird

    • @Pastelreaper
      @Pastelreaper 22 дні тому

      @@user-iz3oq1ll5h this

  • @ellieh284
    @ellieh284 6 років тому +277

    I am happy that you brought this up, I even like how you explained using her disorder. I can usually be sensitive to people who talk about BPD because I have spent 6 months in mental institutions because of this disorder, but you handled it very well. Thank you.

    • @lotermiccakes689
      @lotermiccakes689 6 років тому

      6

    • @ellieh284
      @ellieh284 6 років тому +3

      Filmdirector 101 ..yes? I was in two mental institutions for six months, well about seven, but I didn’t think that mattered.

  • @toxicdrawz5202
    @toxicdrawz5202 5 років тому +1473

    *Her*- Lets talk about You Know Who
    *Me*- *VOLDEMORT?!?!?!?!?!?! NANI*

    • @dead9283
      @dead9283 5 років тому +13

      Toxic Drawz lmfaoooo this comment is so underrated

    • @bonitopapito2539
      @bonitopapito2539 5 років тому +21

      YAS A FELLOW POTTER HEAD

    • @mina-fp6od
      @mina-fp6od 5 років тому +10

      *_NANI_*

    • @ereristark425
      @ereristark425 5 років тому +8

      Lmao the *NANI* was AWESOME!

    • @bimbomboom4680
      @bimbomboom4680 5 років тому +8

      NANIII
      VOLDEMORT WHY ARE YOU HERE???