Which AFC East QB has the MOST TO PROVE? 🤔 | First Take
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Which AFC East QB has the MOST TO PROVE? 🤔 | First Take
On First Take, Kimberley A. Martin and Damien Woody debate which AFC East QB has the most to prove this season.
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Rodgers is a first ballot hall of famer, no one thinks tua is special special, Allen has hall of fame potential but hasn’t proven it yet, it’s Allen without a doubt
Allen needs to prove he can win a Super Bowl.
Tua needs to prove he’s worthy of a fat contract.
Rodgers needs to prove he has something left in the tank.
Maye/Brisset needs to prove the guys above aren’t it.
This is a take I can agree with.
Deshaun Watson?
@@richardmatthews2807 Watson is in the north bro
Fair take
If anyone says Rodgers they have lost their mind completely
Rodgers, get over it buddy
Damien hate him some Tua
Moments😂 tua hasnt had any? He came back from 24 points down vs the ravens an threw for 500 yards. Came back va the chiefs almost always pays the bills close.
Josh is 12 and 2 vs tua dolphins choked bad against KC in the playoffs tua has never won a playoff game josh is 2 and 0 vs Lamar stop it and been to a FC championship game not tua
It's Drake Maye. He has to prove that he can be a Franchise QB. Rodgers is a legend. Allen is elite. Tua is good. We know that. We don't know how good Maye is & he's going to an organization where the standard is championships. All 3 of the other QBs are proven to some degree. Maye isn't. He has the most to prove
That's how I feel too. The rookie has the most to prove
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Maybe probably isn’t even gonna QB1 To start the season. He’s got talent and potential, but it would bode well for him to sit at least a year
Interesting take
Arod is the one with most to prove and with most pressure by far.
If he does not get to the playoffs, everybody is gone 😂 the humpty dumpty brothers are gone 2 !
Browns are loving the media not worried about Deshaun Watson because he’s the one with something to prove
Rodgers will finish his career with the Jets, Allen will finish with the Bills, Maye is on year 1 of a 5 year contract, so Tua clearly is under the most pressure. People doubt his health and play making ability and they expected more from a guy who had McDaniels and all those speedsters on offense but he still folded when playing quality teams.
Well we know it isn’t any qbs for the patriots
Anyone saying Josh Allen need to take a break from watching football. Kicker failed him last year and defense has failed Josh multiple times. Except for the Ravens playoff game ill give the defense that one, but yeah stop if he keeps doing what he does they'll go far no matter what
If u makin that type of QB money, u need to be able to over come failures and injuries at other positions. Im not paying Tua more than Mahomes.... period... but thats just me, screw the "market". For me, the market would start at the best player at the position and go down from there in order of where u slot at
Dudes on defense getting paid a lot of money to make you look bad also.
Life is good
So cool....
Why is she here?
That a Good Question
I don’t know who a bigger tua hater damion or Keyshawn!😂
lol ESPN is giving The View a run for their money 😢
Let’s be real he don’t need to prove anything when cousins and Lawrence got paid
It was not Tua fault last season. Vic DC coach caused those big losses. It takes POINTS to win games. So go an look at the losses.
so by Kimberly Martin's take, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco and Trent Dilfer are on a higher level than Dan Marino bc they have a Super Bowl ring. What an absolutely TERRIBLE take. You even said Aaron Rodgers will be a first ballot HOF'er so how could he possibly have MORE to prove than any of the other QB's in the division? This is some TERRIBLE sport analytics.
Your take is terrible AND weak. If he's still playing, NONE of those passed accomplishments are excuses to be mediocre; they are literally the reasons why he would have MORE to prove because. . . HE'S ACCOMPLISHED MORE. If those passed accomplishments are enough, then he shouldn't be playing.
@@damedan9389 so from your opinion an automatic first ballot HOF’er has more to prove than Tua or Maye or Allen? Tua hasn’t even won a playoff game, Allen hasn’t been to a SB yet and Maye hasn’t even take a snap yet. To say they have LESS to prove than someone who will be in a yellow jacket in Canton is a wild take. But that’s my opinion. And too be fair, i understand where you’re coming from, i just disagree 👍🏼
All these players
Got no injuries yea
To me it’s Tua. Rodgers is 41 and I don’t think he has anything left, Drake Maye is a rookie and Allen is established. Tua still needs his contract extension- has only 1 fully healthy season- and doesn’t have the playoff wins. It also scares me how much weight he’s lost given when he added all that weight on last year he had his 1st fully healthy season. So Tua without a doubt
Tua isn't a 50 million per season quality quarterback! When he takes another big hit & goes all palsy on the ground! People will be calling for him to retire, not to sign him to a multi year extension.
@@PsomaChinnthey said that last season and look at him now? Your take is irrelevant sir. His jujitsu training comes in handy and it work last year. He said himself he wasn’t comfortable with the weight he put on. And only dropped 12 lbs from last season. It’s not like he drop 30. Tua has shut up every narrative each year. And he will shut down this narrative as well. Trust 💯
@@PsomaChinnhow is he not😂 dude took hits all year last yesr didnt miss a snap led the league in passin an 80 percent of the stats..yes he lost big games last year but the years before? Hes 2-1 vs the ravens yall forget that with the biggesr comeback in franchise history and he threw for 500 yards an 6 touchdowns...
@@MyDolphin2011what narrative has he shut down? He had the chance to clinch the division against the bills he put up 14 pts , he had the chance to beat the chiefs couldn’t do it because it was “ too cold” , his stats went down when he faced above .500 teams so exactly what narratives did he shut down ?
No one asked you. She asked Woody & Kimberly
Tua done proved it last year pay the man we aint gettin a better qb anytime soon.
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Kimberly looks too good man
I'm tired of the narrative that tua can't be the good teams. In 2022 tua beat several playoff teams. 2023 not so much. But let's not act like tua never won vs a good team.
Aaron Rodgers, the team is supposed to be so good and they've been "a quarterback away" for years now. Well now they got one, and if they suck it will all be seen as his fault.
I’m done with my thinking Aaron rodgers is top anything
My choice is Josh Allen. A Rod with 1 ring is cemented as one of the best QBs talent wise. Tua proved he can stay healthy just has to beat good teams which he can. Meanwhile. If josh Allen’s numbers dip too much or we don’t see the Superman josh the talk is going right to back to he needed an all pro receiver before he got good now he doesn’t have one he’s falling back off. Pressure is on JA not to mention he has to do it with the worst roster of them all 🤷🏿♂️
Man Aaron has 4 mvps and a SB, and hes gonna be 1st ballot HOF. Has absolutely nothing to prove compared to the other QBs
Well jets fans are expecting a ring, which js not gonna happen, i agree with you he did alot in Gb but he has a lot to prove with the jets
cant wait to revist this one when they go 7-10 again
Exactly yea he would like to win but if he doesn’t he’s still walking into the hall
@@dezthegem9522 he is still the qb with the most pressure by far.
Aaron Rodgers has the least to prove if anything tf lol Josh Allen?, tua with no playoff wins yet? Cmon lol
Why is her take always so bad?! We going to say Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, etc are better than Dan Marino? How did she get a job on sports center? Smh
Im a Dolphins fan but i like Aron Rodgers, i think he does have the MOST to prove out of ANY qb this year.. Hope he stinks tho 🤞lol
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I am going to agree with Kimberly. Rodgers has been lauded as one of the greats to ever play the game. But he's got ONE Superbowl and a ton of almost got back there games. Eli Manning isn't considered the best QB but he has more Superbowls than Rodgers. Tua might be playing for a contract but Rodgers is playing for legacy. And for him, that's just as important.
Josh allen needs to prove he can at least make the superbowl. His been in the league 7 years and has nothing to show for. Mahomes has already won 3 superbowls. Josh allen has the most to prove this season that he deserves the contract!!! What a moronic panel!!!
32 teams nfl
I hate seeing arod go down no cool
Aaron rodgers one ring wise weak if he supposed to be that good
Josh Allen 22 tds 4 ints in playoffs. Josh didn't lose the game with 13 seconds left...bills defense garbage in playoffs
GREEN BAY HAD DPOY C. WOODSON. Defense Led The League In Turnovers the Year they Won SB. Rodgers is a Stat Builder
Clown
The problem with the JETS is sometimes you can literally WEAR out your Defense before you get to the point where you actually have a QB that's worth anything.
Maybe CJ Mosley fits that narrative. Everybody else is young
I Expected Better From The Female Analyst And Once Again SHE LET ME DOWN 😢😢🥱🥱
Then you say yall talking bout him missing practice in June because we need to see he’s serious no yall talking bout it to fill in air time tf nobody cares he didn’t show up to optional practice
They all have something to prove. But Allen definitely has the most. What can you do without Diggs? Let's see
Most to prove....THIS SEASON! Aaron Rodgers. Yall keep listing accomplishments to absolve Rodgers from being chosen when those same accomplishments are why he is on The Jets. Yes...remember....he is playing for the Jets. The Jets didnt pickup Rodgers to not get to the playoffs and win a Superbowl. They were already doing that with Wilson. They have catered to Rodgers ever since they got him and has done absolutely nothing yet. He has the most to prove this season.
He not gonna win another one
Plz don’t bring her back not this is a waist of Air time minutes. Everybody know it’s Tua!!
AROD would have 🏆🏆 but my Seahawks with the LOB were able to get an onside kick which was nearly impossible to get and we WON! AROD is amazing!!!
These women analysts talking about football is a nightmare on Elm Street…Molly said Josh Allen and the Patriots 😂don’t nobody expect Josh to win anything this year.
Bills missed their window, Dolphins got Dak lite, and Patriots miss Brady and Belechick. Jets the top team. Rodgers has NOTHING to prove because all he gotta do is stay healthy and be himself.
Jeys cant even have a winning season at all in 14 years tua only bears bad teams and has no playoff winns the bills have done more then both thise teams have josh has playoff winns winng season every year won hus division 4 dolphins had a 4 game lead last season on buffalo and choked it away the only problem bills have is injures in cery season and getting past kc get facts stop it
ESPN really lost their touch with on air talent
INJURIES ARE THE ONLY THING HOLDING BACK DOLPHINS
Every team has injuries the dolphins can’t play in the cold and Tua struggles against good teams go look at his stats against .500 teams the go down.
Buffalo’s defense was just as injured as Miami last year. Miami can’t play in the cold or beat good teams.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418no they weren't and bills has there starting 5 oline all year
Go Look At Any QB stats vs Good Team and I Bet Their Stats Go Down. It’s common sense. 😂
Take her off the show please no knowledge of nfl whatsl so ever...aint nobody worried about rogers its the jets
Her takes are forever basic….and can be very arrogant with it, at times….im str8888
What is she talking about ?? Dan never won one!! It’s hard to win one she will never know nothing about that
Packing on those pounds.
U eat spam 😂
@@440-fishermandrock8with potatoes and scrambled eggs. My cardiologist wants me to stop. I would, except I don’t have a cardiologist and I don’t actually eat spam.
KIMBERLY is sooooo annoying jeez
Hey Kimberly. But Rodgers is because of his age and the injury. Does he still got it.
Allen has the highest ceiling. He could be MVP if he would clean up his huge turnover problem.
Why are women talking about sports
Because they play sports too incel. Kimberly just isn't that good of an analyst in my opinion, however there are definitely some good female analysts.
So K Mart, your argument is that a 40yo QB coming of an achilles injury has more to prove this season than a guy on a rookie deal trying to get paid because he is yet to prove to be able to win against equivalent opposition... Interesting take.
How has he yet to prove that?.hes 2-1 against the ravens, 2-0 vs lions 2-0 vs cowboys 1-3 against the bills 6-0 against the patriots 0-2 vs chiefs but who isnt, 1-1 vs chargers dudes beat good teams his tean fell apart last year.
Kimberly has such bad takes. My goodness. Like I’m rooting for her but cmon girl. Aaron Rodgers is 40+ with a SB title. He’s fine
Right lol
SO IS JOE FLACCO 🤔 🤔
@@zacharyharkness8780 not sure what you were doing there but does Joe Flacco have anything to prove? 🤔
But it's Superbowl or BUST for Rodgers. Especially cuz he took the money
@@calebrice5707it’s SBOB for the jets organization not Rodgers they gave him the money his career set.
1. Tua
Tua’s improved every year and is clearly a good QB. He stayed healthy all 17 games which going into last year was a big question. But the situation regarding a potential contract extension is a huge one. Forget freezing weather, the Dolphins haven’t been able to win games when the temperature is below 45 degrees, which isn’t even that cold. Tua has not done well against good teams.
2. Maye
In theory he has the most to prove as his resume is blank but he’s a high upside rookie that has several years to prove himself, plus he probably doesn’t start most of the year, he sits behind Jakobi.
3. Allen
Allen is pretty much locked as a top 2-4 QB in the league. Turnovers are obviously the main issue but he does enough positive stuff to make up for that. He will however have to prove he can do a fraction of what Mahomes can without a true #1 receiver now that Diggs is gone.
4. Rodgers
Rodgers is a no doubt 1st ballot HOF and a top 10 QB ever. Anything he accomplishes with the Jets is great and if he fails it’s understandable because he’s 40 and coming off an Achilles injury. Also I think the Jets might be the most overrated team in the league. If they also the Playoffs that’s a success.
My favorite part of this show is the white guy ---------- NOT. More diversity BS gone wild in the NFL.
She absolutely horrible 😂
Tua
Equal pressure is on Rodgers and Tua. Tia is always hurt, doesn't have a strong arm. Rodgers being "talented" and arrogant and only been to one Superbowl with all hype around him.
Kimberly....wtf🤦
That's stupid to me Rodgers is what he is Like Favre he will retire a SB Champ with Multiple MVPs with historic throws and Performances
TUA the one with all that talent and speed and can't beat good teams. MAHOMES burrow Hurts Jackson all Have shown either SB or MVP Playexcept Tua
Never really cared for Molly much until I saw her shush Kimberly from interrupting, like she does all the freaking time. I'd rather listen to Nick Wright for 3 hours straight before listening to Kmart 😂
Josh Allen has won the divison 4 years in a row
Aaron Rodgers has played 4 snaps in the AFCE
Tua blew a 3 game lead 2 years in a row and was 1-6 vs playoff teams
Molly- JoSh AlLeN hAs ThE mOsT tO pRoVe
you gotta be shitting me right lmao
🤣🤣🤣 bro nobody hangs division title banners
@darrellsalu4405 actually every team hangs division titles. It has always been a respected milestone.
@@thesedaze2381thats nice, no conference championships in 7 yrs, no superbowls in 7 yrs, not even a superbowl appearance in 7 years, but hey we got 4 division titles!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@darrellsalu4405 you can always tell the young and immature ones, but you can't blame them because they don't know any better.
@@thesedaze2381 im not young but thanks for the compliment brother ill take what i can get at.my age!!! 🤣🤣🤣
You sound really slow for even saying that 😂.DID MAHOMES OVERCOME NO TACKLES IN SUPERBOWL vs BUCS?? 🤔 🤔 🤔
Aaron Rodgers will walk into the hof easy, superbowl or not. Tua playing for his flippin career
PACKERS HOFer, not a jets HOFer
Kimberly is insufferable
Horrible take Kimberly clearly it’s Tua playing for contract 0 superbowls. Rodgers has his and has maybe 1 or 2 years left.
Kimberly is talking nonsense Aaron Rodger got nothing to prove. Future First Ballot Hall of Famer
Super Bowl champion
Rodgers legacy is cemented as one of the best of all time. Next.
Kimberly is not IT
Kimberly has such an annoying voice idk if it’s just me. She sounds like she’s the queen or something or feels entitled idk that’s what her demeanor gives off. Like she feels like she can’t ever be wrong or something.
Tua Turndaballover .
Get Kimberly off
Rodgers is a Super Bowl champion, 4x mvp, top 7 QB all time and an undisputed first ballot hall of famer. Bro has nothing to prove other than proving he’s not a wacko lmao.