DLC & PVD scratch test!

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2017
  • I go to work on testing a brand-new PVD watch to see how difficult it is to scratch and if the finishing beneath the PVD coating is decent enough to continue to wear.

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  • @PoltergeistWorks
    @PoltergeistWorks 5 років тому +67

    To make it clear: DLC is also PVD, because PVD is a METHOD of coating metals (Physical Vapour Deposition). You can even have real gold PVD coatings. DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) is the one of the hardest black coatings out there, when I scratched another watch with my PVD by bumping into it there was metal particles from the other watch stuck on the coating. After wiping it there was no marks left. What you call PVD here is probably some lower end black coating. Toughness of the coating depends on the material that is being layered onto the metal - if the particles are hard the coating will be tough. For example real gold PVD coating will wear out relatively quickly because gold is soft.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hello, PoltergeistWorks. Thanks for sharing your experience. 👌😁

    • @toddlack6023
      @toddlack6023 4 роки тому +2

      PoltergeistWorks You do not coat them the same. PVD is far easier to coat, DLC is not. It’s a royal bitch to do DLC coating, you don’t just stick anything in and it works. Every new part we get takes a ton of R&D and trial runs to figure the formula out. Even then, the results vary. Most companies are doing PVD coating because it’s easy.

    • @CoordinatedCarry
      @CoordinatedCarry 3 роки тому +6

      I came to this video for the information that I got from this comment. Thank you.

    • @NotBOB-81
      @NotBOB-81 3 роки тому

      Wow
      Ok so DLC is PVD. DLC is a brand. And like with all brands some are better than others. In the beginning DLC was the best but other PVD coatings have become much better.

    • @Shumayal
      @Shumayal 3 роки тому +1

      @@NotBOB-81 what is better than DLC?

  • @shambles6795
    @shambles6795 4 роки тому +4

    This was the best explanation of what these coatings are and how they work. Thank you, and I will be back when I need more Good, practical information.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Hi, W. TRAVIS BREEN. Thanks and it pleases me that this video was useful to you. 👊

  • @leeblanchard5442
    @leeblanchard5442 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve wanted a Maurice Lacroix Aikon Black PVD coated watch for a while but have been so nervous about this finish...you’ve convinced me! Thanks man

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, Lee. I will add their are different quality levels to both PVD and DLC finishes. But yes overall DLC is a stronger finish. 👊

    • @leeblanchard5442
      @leeblanchard5442 4 роки тому

      Thanks for the heads up!

    • @mosatti3791
      @mosatti3791 Рік тому

      Hey Lee, did you end up getting the Maurice Lacroix Aikon Black PVD coated? If so, I would love to see pictures. I am considering getting a ML Aikon with the black PVD coated integrated bracelet.

  • @ericfreutel8240
    @ericfreutel8240 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much!! I’ve been wondering about abrasion resistance - black watches - for years. Now I know, and can begin looking at dlc watches with knowledge and confidence. Thank you very much for this most informative review. 😊😊

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  Рік тому

      My pleasure, Eric. Best of luck. Let me know which black watch you eventually will get v

  • @jminkvihubyb
    @jminkvihubyb 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I'll purchase a DLC watch for my next purchase because of you!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      Hi, Patrick. DLC coating is definitely touch and resilient. I couldn't damage mine even while intentionally trying. And thanks for your kind words. Please let me know which DLC watch you acquire once it's acquired. 👌😜

  • @floatinfredfred9667
    @floatinfredfred9667 2 роки тому +2

    Well produced and informative video! Good job!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  2 роки тому

      Thank you and I hope it was helpful, Floatinfred Fred.

  • @giantfatberg
    @giantfatberg Рік тому +2

    Nice. What a great video with a real world experiment. I was particularly interested in knife coatings and this answers that question for me. Subscribed

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  Рік тому

      I’m glad you found this video helpful. And thanks, Giant Fatberg.

  • @ruamayor
    @ruamayor 7 років тому +5

    Sir you´ve got balls. Congrats!! DLC all the way

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  7 років тому

      Rua Mayor, haha! Thanks though! Yes, DLC is far superior to even PVD's best coating!

  • @violinmke
    @violinmke 4 роки тому +2

    I was ambivalent about you doing this but it answers questions no one else had info about. My new Parnis with PVD came today and now I know what the sapphire & PVD deal is. Basically I think I've got a fair knockabout watch.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, Mike! PVD coating should withstand our regular wear and tear short of a heavy duty beating. DLC will survive more, but if one plans on wanting to use his black watch as a beater, probably shouldn't be PVD. It pleases me to hear that this video was helpful. Thanks. 👌

  • @sunnyr8434
    @sunnyr8434 5 років тому +1

    Hi Rich,
    Well I don't know what to say with this video.
    But some good testing there.
    Merry Christmas Rich and may you have a Richer New Year!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hi, Sunny! Thank you! Always appreciate ya. 🙏😁

  • @stephenwells3185
    @stephenwells3185 7 років тому +3

    This is a cool video. Now I don’t have to stress when my PVD watch gets scratched. Nice Jean Richard, by the way.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  7 років тому

      Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad it was helpful.

  • @ThanhNguyen-bs2mc
    @ThanhNguyen-bs2mc 6 років тому +1

    Great vid man 💪💪💪💪

  • @mistikalsunshine
    @mistikalsunshine 5 років тому +1

    hey, tks for sharing, great video.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      Hi, David! It took some self-convincing so thanks! 👌😜

  • @antoniobaskerville6823
    @antoniobaskerville6823 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the help

  • @kovacskovacs3465
    @kovacskovacs3465 6 років тому +8

    Assuming the same, minimum thickness of coating, it's well known in the watch community that DLC is superior to PVD. It was hard watching it though.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      Hi, Kovacs Kovacs! Yes, DLC is superior. I couldn't even harm my JR. Dunno how many others would try this with their own watches so I did as it was something I've been curious about. 😱🤛

  • @KirbyYoung
    @KirbyYoung Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! May I ask if you have any idea if Seiko uses DLC? Like the SLA061 for example.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  Рік тому

      Hi, Kirby Young. I like the SLA061 a lot. It’s a cool watch but the black case isn’t identified as DLC. It only indicates a hard coating. And thanks.

  • @olegyefremov2583
    @olegyefremov2583 4 роки тому +1

    I'm getting Garmin fenix 6x sapphire. Its got sapphire screen and dlc coating on watch. Happy to see it'll last a long time in great shape, and I don't have to baby it

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, Oleg. Congrats on your Fenix. My DLC watches have stood up well, but admittedly I baby mine. 👊

    • @olegyefremov2583
      @olegyefremov2583 4 роки тому

      @@whatsonthewristThank you, sir! I currently use Samsung gear s3 , i don't know what coating it has (the color is matte black) but in 2 years of active use bazel is completely scratched up and it doesn't look good.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому +1

      The material may simply be paint or ion plated. You could have it coated in DLC. At least you won’t get lost with either watch.

    • @hendrikmarais9092
      @hendrikmarais9092 3 роки тому +1

      Don’t - thought the same and got the 6 sapphire carbon grey DLC - it got a scratch day 1 and the stainless steel underneath the DLC contrasts an ruins the watch. DLC will scratch eventually and then look like shit. Google pics of wear on a non DLC fenix at least before you decide. DLC from Garmin means nothing. The saphh glass is fire though but take care of the bezel then

    • @olegyefremov2583
      @olegyefremov2583 3 роки тому

      @@hendrikmarais9092 good to know. Thanks

  • @waqarghulam3548
    @waqarghulam3548 4 роки тому +3

    2uM dlc will last in an engine piston for 85 years if kept running continuously. There are seven types of dlc coatings, and dlc is one type of PVD. PVD is a process.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Hi, Waqar Ghulam. Yes DLC is a stronger process than PVD. Thank you.

  • @patomorales5228
    @patomorales5228 3 роки тому +1

    Muy bueno 👌🏼!

  • @tiderider
    @tiderider 5 років тому +1

    Nice video

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      Hi, dp! Thanks, it was kinda hard to do but I was also curious. 👌😜

  • @romeo6048
    @romeo6048 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting video. What do you think of Orient's level of quality on the IP or PVD coating?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, Romeo. Imho they are as well done as others in the price range. 👌

    • @romeo6048
      @romeo6048 4 роки тому

      @@whatsonthewrist Thanks for your reply! Best wishes!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Best wishes to you too!

  • @archstanton1628
    @archstanton1628 2 роки тому +1

    Also bear in mind that was a 20 dollar watch, with presumably a two dollar coating. DLC beats the cheap version whatever though.

  • @michaelbarlow6610
    @michaelbarlow6610 3 роки тому +2

    PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) is not a material. It is a process by which a metal surface such as stainless steel or titanium can be coated with a hard, scratch-resistant material such as DLC (Diamond-Like Carbon). It is a myth that all DLC is impervious to scratches. Only the best quality (and ,therefore, most expensive) DLC material with the highest hardness rating (supposedly in excess of 4500 HV on the Vickers HV hardness scale) is nearly impervious to scratches.

  • @tantainguyen3678
    @tantainguyen3678 6 років тому +1

    Does it pvd black coating get worn off time by time ?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому +2

      Hi Tan, no PVD does not rub off or peel off on its own without rough physical contact against it. It's different from window tinting where that bubbles up. Thanks, good question Tan Tai Nguyen!

  • @trubadyr99
    @trubadyr99 10 місяців тому +1

    The issue of best scratch-resistant coatings often discussed in knife-collector's and gun-owner's communities. The general notion is that the DLC is stronger than the PVD. But I think the quality of either coating depends on the science and technology behind each method. It seems that if the PVD coating is done properly with the best materials, it might turn out to be better than the DLC that is poorly implemented.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  10 місяців тому

      Yes very true. There are also aesthetic differences. PVD allows more finishing options versus the matte finishing of DLC.

  • @sadro4591
    @sadro4591 4 роки тому +1

    Hello, i wanted to ask what's that tune at the beginning call? I Been looking for the name for a long time

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Hi, sadro 45! Thanks for your question. I’m afraid I don’t recall at the moment. 🤷‍♂️

    • @sadro4591
      @sadro4591 4 роки тому +1

      @@whatsonthewrist ahh geezz, well thanks anyway i appreciate your time

  • @chiefrugaroo3181
    @chiefrugaroo3181 5 років тому

    I wonder how the DLC would be on a Steinhart?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hi, Justin. Could be interesting indeed. 🤛😜

  • @brightside85
    @brightside85 6 років тому +1

    is that ur G-AMG?

  • @christianmartinez-ox9qh
    @christianmartinez-ox9qh 3 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know how to remove scratches from DLC?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  3 роки тому

      Hey, Christian. If the scratch is deep you might have to have it refinished.

  • @DK-ox7ze
    @DK-ox7ze 2 роки тому +1

    Any idea if the Apple Watch Series 7 stainless steel in Graphite has the DLC coating?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  2 роки тому +1

      I do not believe it is, DK.

    • @DK-ox7ze
      @DK-ox7ze 2 роки тому

      @@whatsonthewrist So you think it's PVD?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  2 роки тому

      It’s aluminum so perhaps ion plated or simply colored.

  • @FlyHec
    @FlyHec Рік тому +1

    My PVD coated ring was shot after just 2 weeks. After watching this I'm beginning to think it wasn't Damascus steel or PVD coated.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  Рік тому +1

      Hi, Hector Fly Rodriguez. That sucks. Unless your watch went through a blender it should be fine.

  • @JeanGaoRacine
    @JeanGaoRacine 3 роки тому +1

    how do you fix scratches on these watches

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  3 роки тому

      Hi, Jean. I would bring it to a watch maker and maybe he can put a new coating. If not, there are a few places that can. Best of luck.

  • @quackman
    @quackman 7 років тому +13

    All I can say is *CRINGE* throughout this vid. very interesting practical test

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  7 років тому +2

      Cringe for me was revisiting this show as it was one of my first! This test was one in which I was always curious. I can vouch for my JR as being tough as nails, but mostly I know that I don't need to be extra gentle simply because it is a black watch.

  • @pennfootball71
    @pennfootball71 6 років тому +2

    DLC is a bit tougher only like a knife sharpener stone can cut it

  • @k1m4a1
    @k1m4a1 5 років тому +1

    What is Porsche design P6360 price?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hi, Kamal. I saw one on Jomashop for around $1300. Good luck. ✌️😁

  • @Gantzz321
    @Gantzz321 5 років тому +3

    it does not count an using a serrated edge knife if you have the serrations facing away from what you are trying to cut.
    Next time just pull out sandpaper or a file, because fingernails and ceramic tiles are not measurable grits last time I did any fabrication work.

  • @loh1110
    @loh1110 10 місяців тому +1

    Where were you quoted $130 for original pvd? Thank you

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  10 місяців тому

      I can’t recall as I made this video awhile back. But I think I came across a couple of more service centers.

  • @menaseven9093
    @menaseven9093 6 років тому +4

    I am surprise that the DLC coating is so strong. I hope they invent a method to turn stainless steel black during manufacturing. I saw an Invicta watch with a multicolor stainless steel (blue, green, red). I think after 20 years the DLC coating will start to become week.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому +4

      Hello, mena seven. DLC is actually meant to last. Yes, I have also seen multi-colored metals but mostly titanium. The color is forged from extreme heat. It looks cool. Have a look at Zelos' website on their chronograph that looks blue and red. 👌

  • @thewatchmakersson
    @thewatchmakersson 4 роки тому

    Who quoted you the PVD job to have redone?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Hi, Simkho. I’m afraid I can’t recall at the moment. It’s been awhile since I made this video. Perhaps you can find it from someone in the comments section. Thank you.

  • @beatricegrace3915
    @beatricegrace3915 5 років тому

    wrist watch check ... coffee cup check... wEAK SUACE!@

  • @IDiamondNY
    @IDiamondNY 6 років тому

    i need DLC service on my jewelry or watches. i'm have jewelry shop in newyork and i want to know if i can get contact for who does DLC service in usa. thank you

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      International Watch Works does this type of work. I think they're located in North Carolina but I think you can send them your watch. ✌️😁

    • @IDiamondNY
      @IDiamondNY 6 років тому +1

      thank you!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      You're welcome and good luck. Please let me know how it turns out.

    • @IDiamondNY
      @IDiamondNY 6 років тому

      i will! thanks!

  • @JavierEspi77
    @JavierEspi77 3 роки тому +1

    I found it hard to watch. I kept closing my eyes. Very impressed how the watch held up to the abuse. Especially the key test.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, Javier. Yeah the scratching against the ladder made me squirm too. My DLC JR is still strong as ever. 👌

  • @BIGGBULLxxx
    @BIGGBULLxxx 5 місяців тому +1

    Does dlc come in gold? Thanks for your reply 👍👍

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 місяців тому +1

      There are different colors, gold too.

    • @BIGGBULLxxx
      @BIGGBULLxxx 5 місяців тому

      @@whatsonthewrist thanks

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 місяців тому +1

      My pleasure.

    • @BIGGBULLxxx
      @BIGGBULLxxx 5 місяців тому

      @@whatsonthewrist also do you know where to buy good pvd or dlc gold plated stainless steel necklace and bracelet from? Thanks again
      🙏😇🙏

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 місяців тому +1

      I can’t recall at the moment. This video was from a few years ago. I think there was a place in LA.

  • @lukaludilo
    @lukaludilo 6 років тому +2

    Can you repair pvd coating?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      Hi Luka, my understanding is it can be repaired. The cost varies depending on the company, anywhere from $150 or so on up. Thank you! 😁✌️

  • @icuokjoe577
    @icuokjoe577 7 років тому

    I knew you wouldn't test you jr lol!

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  7 років тому +1

      Icuok joe, I actually did and the Jr is super tough! DLC is stronger than PVD.

  • @jeffreypetchharrison4363
    @jeffreypetchharrison4363 5 років тому +1

    no watches were killed in this video .. j

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      Hi, Jeffrey! A great PSA announcement. Thanks. 😜👌

  • @trevillyan5515
    @trevillyan5515 6 років тому

    What are the watches used in the video?

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому

      Hi, TrEVILlyan. If I recall, Curren and JeanRichard.😜👌

    • @trevillyan5515
      @trevillyan5515 6 років тому

      whatsonthewrist thanks boss, sorry for being late to the party

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  6 років тому +1

      Funny, no apologies necessary. But I hope to see ya on my newest show that involves a nice giveaway. 👍😁

  • @BeeRumblin13
    @BeeRumblin13 2 роки тому

    Thats done on a $16 chinese watch . Im sure better brands use better quality coatings.

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  2 роки тому

      Hi, B Rumblin'13. It’s true it’s not an expensive watch, but DLC will generally hold up very well.

  • @greyman1363
    @greyman1363 2 роки тому +1

    Not all dlc and Pvd is the same

  • @aleximd9244
    @aleximd9244 3 роки тому +1

    Better I would agree with you for the beginning and instead gave it to me a poor guy who can just dream about watches. ☹

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  3 роки тому

      Hi, Alex. True but hopefully the education carried some value.

    • @silverghost4206
      @silverghost4206 2 роки тому

      @ alex.. You seriously do not own a watch?. There are 100 dollar watches. I only wear certain watches. Orients an omega. I gave a few watches away to people. They were orient watches. An sold some watches too. As of now i only own two orients.

  • @ducatiist
    @ducatiist 5 років тому +1

    DLC is PVD... "Physical Vapor Deposition" is the processed used for "Diamond Like Coating"

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hi, ducatiist! Yes and DLC is superior. 👌😁

    • @ducatiist
      @ducatiist 5 років тому +1

      @@whatsonthewrist That's like saying spaghetti is superior to boiling... Boiling is the process to cook spaghetti. You could however say that spaghetti is superior to linguine just like you could say DLC is superior (or inferior) to TiN, TiAN, AITiN, CrN, TiCN, TiAICN, ZrN... etc. However, you cannot say DLC is superior to PVD just like you can NOT say spaghetti is superior to boiling. smh

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      They are both a type of coating.

    • @jimmyschock9395
      @jimmyschock9395 5 років тому

      @@whatsonthewrist pvd isnt a coating its a coating process. Dlc is also pvd. The coating on that watch probably isnt damaged its discolored from the brass from the key. The coating actually wore away the key. Ive have a few things that are pvd coated and when something looks like a scratch i little soap and a dish sponge clean it up

  • @kcgfy81
    @kcgfy81 6 років тому

    From $700 to ~$20? Talk about depreciation.

  • @azizhusseinz2083
    @azizhusseinz2083 5 років тому +5

    How to basic: watches

  • @TheMartialist
    @TheMartialist 5 років тому +1

    Ex pear a ment

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      Hi, TheMartialalist! I agonized over this experiment. I learned how well made Jean Richard's are if anything. 👌😁

  • @andylau7809
    @andylau7809 4 роки тому

    Where is your eyebrow

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      They’re not DLC so they probably didn’t last very long.

  • @carltonneckbrace4039
    @carltonneckbrace4039 3 роки тому +1

    Pamela Anderson from the 90s called, she wants her eyebrows back. Jk, love you x

  • @user-mm7cf4de8p
    @user-mm7cf4de8p 6 років тому +2

    Pvd win

  • @J.K.Barrik
    @J.K.Barrik 4 роки тому +2

    PVD is utterly rubbish. My £500 Tissot lost its colour within months of wear

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  4 роки тому

      Hi, truly independent! Sorry to hear about your Tissot. There are definitely higher quality levels to even PVD, but I prefer DLC. Thanks for sharing. 👌😁

    • @seanm3226
      @seanm3226 4 роки тому

      Binary World Warranty?

    • @J.K.Barrik
      @J.K.Barrik 4 роки тому

      @@seanm3226
      Yep, got a new one from the store as a replacement but knew same crap would happen so I sold it

  • @bricology
    @bricology 5 років тому +1

    When did "unboxing" become a thing for something like a mediocre watch packed in a bubble-wrap sleeve? /SMH

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому

      Hi, bricology! Well, the video wasn't about the unboxing of that particular watch. ✌️😁

  • @GottiRC
    @GottiRC 5 років тому +1

    your damage techniques are super weak

    • @whatsonthewrist
      @whatsonthewrist  5 років тому +1

      Hi, Brian. Looking forward to seeing your test. ✌️

  • @killthebuddhatwice
    @killthebuddhatwice 4 роки тому +1

    you call that a fair comparison.... are you voting Biden