I wish the series would have started with Henry’s coronation and his marriage to Catherine. Their marriage was a happy and harmonious one for a long time actually.
I was thinking the same thing - it would be perfect if they made a show focusing on another royal household of the era where Henry and Katherine were this relationship goals side characters who sort of serve as an example to the main couple, so that the eventual dissolution of their marriage is even more devastating, especially as the audience are aware of what looms in the future
I super like the chemistry of these two...that even in seasons 2-4 whenever they mention Catherine of Aragon, I intepret some love an affection from the King (or I am just living in subtext!)
This series never showed just how much Henry and Kathryn really did love each other. Prior to Ann Boleyn coming onto the scene and Henry becoming obsessed with having a son, he truly truly loved Kathryn of Aragon and they had a very long, successful and loving marriage.
I wouldn't say to happy, given that he had multiple mistresses before Anne came along. He even had a child with one of them. I know that the standards were different back then but it wasn't true love between them, more so affection and respect for a time, but even that ended when Anne came into the picture
@@Anna-gg9wjI definitely believe Henry loved Catherine the most. Historians have found letter of him writing to her & writing to other to come visit him & his new wife so he could show off how “bella” she was. Seems like he was head over heels for her compared to the others, but again that’s just my opinion
When he gets hurt, their whole little dialogue with Catherine worrying over him and him saying he is fine only to hold her face at the end and smile and say My lady is so cute
@Dreamfyre Make her look “irrelevant?” Get off your high horse, I’m sorry did you know know any of these people personally? Your out here getting mad at people who’s opinions differ than yours? Grow up and use your real name on the internet.
In reality Catherine of Aragon was remembered as 3x the monarch that Anne or any of Henry’s other wife’s. She ruled England with Henry for over 20 years. Anne is known solely for the reformation and birthing the child that ended the tutor dynasty.
I think we have that impression because she came from a long family line of kings and queens from Spain. Anne Boleyn and his other wives were low born nobles (compared to Catalina), so they didn't have powerful relatives to threaten Henry in case he did something bad to them (that's why he didn't kill Catalina, she was aunt of the most powerful man in Europe in that time)
@@sweetspicy7880 I agree. Don't forget Catherine's famous "if this be true or no, I put it to your conscience" speech at the hearing of the King's Great Matter - Henry practically died of fright when Catherine launched her verbal salvoes at him, and for once in his life he had absolutely nothing to say.
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 yes ! Cause she didn’t want to give her claim and husband . That’s the issue with we women , we hate getting cheated , we torture & blame other women but we still don’t want to lose our men . Hence , like Diana , like Elizabeth and somewhere Anne Boleyn , all of them had a spirit of being more then a mute wife . They all had a spark , Anne didn’t win but she was trying to get a life where she isn’t a puppet of her father . I give her point for attempt .
@@doctorpostingthere have been speculations that it could have been an influenza, typhus, Sars.. one of the most agreed to sicknesses is hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS). But, we will never know for sure.
The Tudors is known for having ridiculously inaccurate costumes, but poor Katherine was given some especially ridiculous ones. As if it wasn't bad enough that they tried to make her older than she was, they seem to have tried to reduce her sex appeal with ridiculous costuming, as well. And what tf is up with those ugly hats? I wish the costumes had been a bit more accurate. I understand that they wanted to exert creative influence, and jazz things up, but they could have done so while giving the costumes some semblance of accuracy. Most of them are just bizarre.
At least they aren't as bad as Reign. That show was ridiculous. The Tudors at least never let anyone look half naked. They looked like bad modern prom dresses. It's not that they were ugly dresses, it's just painfully obvious that 16th century women would NOT have had sleeveless dresses. Lmfao.
Are you kidding, the English still wear awful hats/head wear today. It's been going on for centuries. Take a look at what Carmella wore on her wedding day, she looked like a rooster with his top on sideways. But I like some of Catherine's scarves and such here. They are very feminine, and very becoming on her...
This Aragon actress is the hottest of all who played the role...her sex appeal is truly uncanny! They picked her because of her acting skill and expressive look...not because of her age...vs Henry's age.
They should have an actress that looks a little younger here. She looks like she could be his mom, although i know Catherine was older than Henry, but not this “old” like in here.
Until Anne Boleyn came along, and tore them apart, yes. Everybody wants to put all the blame on Henry for his and Catherine's break up, but Anne was no innocent either. It takes two to tango...
Anne didn't have a choice really, she tried to escape the king for 7 years, until she realized she was forced to either become a mistress or do what her father wanted and ask to be the queen.
Was the first queen katherine older than henry viii ? They had a older woman playing the part in the movie " the other boylan girl ", an in "the tudors"
@@cathleenmonroe1175 thanx,I appreciate you letting me know that..too bad they couldnt find a woman that didnt look as old ..I mean she was attractive, it was just more than obvious that their was a age difference.."the other boylan girl was one of my favorite movies even though to hear the critics speak,it wasnt exactly 100% accurate in some parts..thanx again..
It's weird, the actress is about the right age for their divorce but they need Henry to start the series looking much younger because he has to last his whole reign I guess.
She played the part greatly, but the actress was too old for the part lbr. Katherine was only 6 years older than Henry, yet here she looks like she could easily be his mother lol.
Katherine was good woman but she was never Henry’s choice . She was married to his brother & when his brother died , with the crown cAme the responsibility of marriage as well . People need to understand that even with the best person , we might not fell in love , when it’s not our choice but royal decision .
Cristina Lúcio no ! It’s a royal arrangement , crown came with a price but of course , he had no complaints . She was great but she wasn’t something she chose
This is ..... incredibly inaccurate. Henry wanted to marry Katherine. Full stop. His father, Henry VII, didn't approve because Katherine was his brothers widow, so he waited till he was both coronated and 18. Henry VIII loved Katherine, and for a long while they were incredibly happy in their marriage, until he didn't get the son that he wanted. That's when things started falling apart. There was no betrothal contract or marriage contract between Katherine and Henry after Arthur died, they fell in love, and got married. Period, end of story.
He never loved her... He bore his brother's responsibility, and got married to an old lady... He had known her propose to stay surely was to be queen, as all of her sisters was made to be queen across kingdoms... He did his best as a husband... But she couldn't give him son that he wanted... I'm not sure who was selfish... I think, Henry was the unfortunate one because of marrying her(widow, much older, couldn't produce son).. That was why he looked for another woman who was able to fulfill his young desire, smart, fresh, and could give him a son as that was a tradition, that a king should have a male heir to strengthen his kingdom... He looked for woman who suited/matched with him...
She was 6 years older than him. She was only 23 when they got married. Of course we don't how he really felt, but there is strong evidence he loved her in the beginning as much as any king loved his queen in the 16th century.Finally, you shouldn't feel sorry for him because she "couldn't produce a son": she was perfectly capable of bearing children, but only 1 girl survived, through no fault of her own. In fact, considering Anne Boleyn's child-bearing record, some medical historians think Henry's health was the reason for their combined 5 stillbirths, 2 miscarriages, and an infant boy dying young.
Oh he most definitely loved her at one point. Katherine was not old when they married, only 23. it is almost certain the childbearing problems were because of Henry, not his wives.
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I wish the series would have started with Henry’s coronation and his marriage to Catherine. Their marriage was a happy and harmonious one for a long time actually.
I wish the same thing. They brush over a lot in the series. It's still good, though, in my opinion, in its own right, if not always accurate.
Exactly this! So true
I was thinking the same thing - it would be perfect if they made a show focusing on another royal household of the era where Henry and Katherine were this relationship goals side characters who sort of serve as an example to the main couple, so that the eventual dissolution of their marriage is even more devastating, especially as the audience are aware of what looms in the future
I super like the chemistry of these two...that even in seasons 2-4 whenever they mention Catherine of Aragon, I intepret some love an affection from the King (or I am just living in subtext!)
Sarah Na it would have been a better place to start the show if it started with his coronation & the beginning of his marriage to Catherine
This series never showed just how much Henry and Kathryn really did love each other. Prior to Ann Boleyn coming onto the scene and Henry becoming obsessed with having a son, he truly truly loved Kathryn of Aragon and they had a very long, successful and loving marriage.
I wouldn't say to happy, given that he had multiple mistresses before Anne came along. He even had a child with one of them. I know that the standards were different back then but it wasn't true love between them, more so affection and respect for a time, but even that ended when Anne came into the picture
@@Anna-gg9wjI definitely believe Henry loved Catherine the most. Historians have found letter of him writing to her & writing to other to come visit him & his new wife so he could show off how “bella” she was. Seems like he was head over heels for her compared to the others, but again that’s just my opinion
People tend to forget that his marriage to her was the Longest and he was in love with her for more than her looks.
When he gets hurt, their whole little dialogue with Catherine worrying over him and him saying he is fine only to hold her face at the end and smile and say My lady is so cute
He hurt Katharine in so many ways my soul cried for her
Back when he loved me 😢
Shes so pretty though!!!!!
She is gorgeous :)
@Nenethegreat W Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry you are blind.
Thank you :)
@Nenethegreat W says the one who hides her face and makes unnecessary comments about other women’s appearance. Fuck off old insecure lady.
I think her personality makes her even more beautiful :)
I do believe that if Henry had kept the love with Katherine believed in Mary then the Tudor dynasty would have been longer
Things happened for A reason. If mary had been successfully married off and have children, then, england would've became A satellite country.
Or they could have created a strong alliance and still build England to be a strong country
Headpfones I guess we will never know now.
QOP13 sad but true
What are you talking about. Bolyens daughter Elizabeth ruled for 40 years.
I remember watching, while Henry and Anne we’re out where some sickness was spreading. He’s literally with Anne and asking if Catherine is OK.😅💀
@Dreamfyre Its really not that deep, just an observation I had.
@Dreamfyre Make her look “irrelevant?” Get off your high horse, I’m sorry did you know know any of these people personally? Your out here getting mad at people who’s opinions differ than yours? Grow up and use your real name on the internet.
In reality Catherine of Aragon was remembered as 3x the monarch that Anne or any of Henry’s other wife’s. She ruled England with Henry for over 20 years. Anne is known solely for the reformation and birthing the child that ended the tutor dynasty.
I think she was the only he slightly respected.
Yes & that’s why he stayed married to her till she could reproduce but later .... for that era ... a heir was not a choice
I think we have that impression because she came from a long family line of kings and queens from Spain. Anne Boleyn and his other wives were low born nobles (compared to Catalina), so they didn't have powerful relatives to threaten Henry in case he did something bad to them (that's why he didn't kill Catalina, she was aunt of the most powerful man in Europe in that time)
@@sweetspicy7880 I agree. Don't forget Catherine's famous "if this be true or no, I put it to your conscience" speech at the hearing of the King's Great Matter - Henry practically died of fright when Catherine launched her verbal salvoes at him, and for once in his life he had absolutely nothing to say.
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 yes ! Cause she didn’t want to give her claim and husband . That’s the issue with we women , we hate getting cheated , we torture & blame other women but we still don’t want to lose our men .
Hence , like Diana , like Elizabeth and somewhere Anne Boleyn , all of them had a spirit of being more then a mute wife . They all had a spark , Anne didn’t win but she was trying to get a life where she isn’t a puppet of her father .
I give her point for attempt .
I’m the best he ever had 💋
Hola Your Majesty, you are very right, and you are the best Queen of England as well, greetings from Spain!
Brianne Smolcic why hello my dear how are you and isn’t Spain just lovely ❤️
Lol
Cleopatra Khaleesi ha
Catherine Of Aragon I love you my Queen I would have loved you be you maid servant ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ forever Catherine
The actress is really pretty!!!!
not next to Natalie Dormer
You see he was worried with the sweating sickness because that is what killed his brother
which illness was that?
@@doctorpostingthere have been speculations that it could have been an influenza, typhus, Sars.. one of the most agreed to sicknesses is hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS).
But, we will never know for sure.
I ship them so much (on tv shows and irl), and i hate that i ship them because he never deserved her
This was an epic series! Loved it!!!!😃
The Tudors is known for having ridiculously inaccurate costumes, but poor Katherine was given some especially ridiculous ones. As if it wasn't bad enough that they tried to make her older than she was, they seem to have tried to reduce her sex appeal with ridiculous costuming, as well. And what tf is up with those ugly hats?
I wish the costumes had been a bit more accurate. I understand that they wanted to exert creative influence, and jazz things up, but they could have done so while giving the costumes some semblance of accuracy. Most of them are just bizarre.
I agree their costumes aren't accurate, but I do like some of Katherine's. Some of the hats are not cool though, you're right :)
At least they aren't as bad as Reign. That show was ridiculous. The Tudors at least never let anyone look half naked. They looked like bad modern prom dresses. It's not that they were ugly dresses, it's just painfully obvious that 16th century women would NOT have had sleeveless dresses. Lmfao.
They made her look 20 years older than him. As if she was his mother and nit spouse
Are you kidding, the English still wear awful hats/head wear today. It's been going on for centuries. Take a look at what Carmella wore on her wedding day, she looked like a rooster with his top on sideways. But I like some of Catherine's scarves and such here. They are very feminine, and very becoming on her...
This Aragon actress is the hottest of all who played the role...her sex appeal is truly uncanny! They picked her because of her acting skill and expressive look...not because of her age...vs Henry's age.
They should have an actress that looks a little younger here. She looks like she could be his mom, although i know Catherine was older than Henry, but not this “old” like in here.
Yeah,she was only 5 years older
This actress is only ten years older than Jonathan.
So Cathleen do you think Katherine brought out the best of Henry and Anne the worst of Henry?
Not really. I think he was a crazy, evil butthead, and was going to be no matter who he was married to.
Until Anne Boleyn came along, and tore them apart, yes. Everybody wants to put all the blame on Henry for his and Catherine's break up, but Anne was no innocent either. It takes two to tango...
Anne was a bitch then... but still produced the Elizabeth I we all remember
@@ahumanyesahuman ah yes the queen who enforced slavery, long may that bitch reign 🙄👌
Anne didn't have a choice really, she tried to escape the king for 7 years, until she realized she was forced to either become a mistress or do what her father wanted and ask to be the queen.
2:42 NOT BOLEYN BEING THERE!!!
If he would just let mary get marries at the right age she could.of had him tons of grandchildren but noooooo.MARY WAS a victim.
They look happy tgthr
At least he tried
Was the first queen katherine older than henry viii ? They had a older woman playing the part in the movie " the other boylan girl ", an in "the tudors"
5 and a half years only. Sadly, in film and TV the actresses they use to portray Katherine of Aragon are usually 10 to 15 years older than Henry VIII.
@@cathleenmonroe1175 not anymore with the Spanish princess!!!! Which I love btw and can't wait for the second part they promised on stars
@@cathleenmonroe1175 thanx,I appreciate you letting me know that..too bad they couldnt find a woman that didnt look as old ..I mean she was attractive, it was just more than obvious that their was a age difference.."the other boylan girl was one of my favorite movies even though to hear the critics speak,it wasnt exactly 100% accurate in some parts..thanx again..
It's weird, the actress is about the right age for their divorce but they need Henry to start the series looking much younger because he has to last his whole reign I guess.
Whatever happened too Johnathan Ryes Myers?
He's made tons of films since then.
He loved her, he just wasn't inlove with her.
Did Henry loved Mary?
maria is so fine!!!
She played the part greatly, but the actress was too old for the part lbr. Katherine was only 6 years older than Henry, yet here she looks like she could easily be his mother lol.
Katherine was good woman but she was never Henry’s choice . She was married to his brother & when his brother died , with the crown cAme the responsibility of marriage as well .
People need to understand that even with the best person , we might not fell in love , when it’s not our choice but royal decision .
Sweetie no offence, but you are ignorant as hell
He wanted to marry her
Cristina Lúcio no ! It’s a royal arrangement , crown came with a price but of course , he had no complaints .
She was great but she wasn’t something she chose
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This is ..... incredibly inaccurate. Henry wanted to marry Katherine. Full stop. His father, Henry VII, didn't approve because Katherine was his brothers widow, so he waited till he was both coronated and 18. Henry VIII loved Katherine, and for a long while they were incredibly happy in their marriage, until he didn't get the son that he wanted. That's when things started falling apart. There was no betrothal contract or marriage contract between Katherine and Henry after Arthur died, they fell in love, and got married. Period, end of story.
She looks way too old for him
But still beautiful :) The real Katherine was only 6 years older than Henry. The actors, however, are 13 years apart.
Super beautiful actress right here... The eyes, the face, the smile...aughhh even the serious face... She's sooooo enticing!
@Nenethegreat W shut up insecure bitch!
@Nenethegreat W Everyone's entitled to their opinions. That's the point of a forum like this. Take care!
@Nenethegreat W to quote Louis Lane " and you could use a few tucks yourself sister.
He never loved her... He bore his brother's responsibility, and got married to an old lady... He had known her propose to stay surely was to be queen, as all of her sisters was made to be queen across kingdoms... He did his best as a husband... But she couldn't give him son that he wanted... I'm not sure who was selfish... I think, Henry was the unfortunate one because of marrying her(widow, much older, couldn't produce son).. That was why he looked for another woman who was able to fulfill his young desire, smart, fresh, and could give him a son as that was a tradition, that a king should have a male heir to strengthen his kingdom... He looked for woman who suited/matched with him...
She was 6 years older than him. She was only 23 when they got married. Of course we don't how he really felt, but there is strong evidence he loved her in the beginning as much as any king loved his queen in the 16th century.Finally, you shouldn't feel sorry for him because she "couldn't produce a son": she was perfectly capable of bearing children, but only 1 girl survived, through no fault of her own. In fact, considering Anne Boleyn's child-bearing record, some medical historians think Henry's health was the reason for their combined 5 stillbirths, 2 miscarriages, and an infant boy dying young.
Cathleen Monroe thx for your enlightenment
Oh he most definitely loved her at one point. Katherine was not old when they married, only 23. it is almost certain the childbearing problems were because of Henry, not his wives.
Actually Katherine seemed to be quite fertile.
You said bullshit shit He loved her ... she was is big and true love 😍❤