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I’ve also grown increasingly angry with the Fayed’s. I couldn’t believe how spineless Dodi was and how much of a racist opportunist his father was. His father did what he did to get British citizenship and after everything he lost, he STILL doesn’t have it. Honestly I wish Princess Diana never met either of them.
OF course but that wasn’t the point. The writers were suggesting he didn’t want to kneel to his wife/a woman. I don’t agree with that either but it was never about his lack of understanding of protocol
Wrong! Monarch calls the shots! He gave up his royal HRH of Denmark/Greece titles of D/G and citizenship to become a British citizen. King George VI sponsored Prince Philip in the organization of KG (Knights of the Garter) a few months before his wedding to Elizabeth. Awhile later King George gave Philip a "R.H." (Royal Highness --a bottom rank of the "style" for foreign princes who married British princesses and queens).He was given the title Duke of Edinburgh the day before the wedding. "The Crown's" crowning of Prince Philip never happened. But it made for good TV Reality: *In 1958 Queen Elizabeth signed the letters* *patent to make Philip:* "The Prince (HRH) Philip of the UK." (HRH= His Royal Highness) That is the same style as the queen, Charles and Anne "The" prince gave him precedence over Charles, Anne, Princess Margaret and everybody else (except the Queen Mum). At this time Philip was also made regent, in the event, of the HMTQ's death. In addition, any non-royal members descended from Queen Elizabeth would have the surname of Mountbatten--Windsor So far, only Prince Edwards daughter and son; who were never given an HRH have the surname Mountbatten-Windsor. Now James has taken his father's old title (Earl of Wessex) and Louise is known as Lady Louise (her father is a prince and he had the Wessex title before becoming Duke of Edinburgh. Prince Edward's surname is Windsor (HRH, child of sovereign) Prince Edward's Dukedom (DoE) will revert back to the sovereign upon his death; just as Prince Philip's DoE reverted back to the sovereign after Prince Philip died. Anne, being a female, her children took her husband's surname (Phillips). Anne was given an HRH at birth, as were her siblings (children of the monarch) Anne and Mark Phillips turned down a royal style and titles for her children. Prince Andrew decided that his daughters would receive the HRH and be styled as Princesses. He can not pass on his title as Duke of York (Primogeniture laws) Because of that, Beatrice and Eugenie's maiden surname was Windsor. (Now they use their husband's surnames.) 1935 Law -- George V.: Only the children and grandchildren of the monarch are eligible to be styled as Prince/Princess. Queen Elizabeth made an exception, for William's children (great-gradchildren of the monarch) But Harry and Meghan's children (if they exist -- who knows?) had to wait until Charles was king.) I think that in the future the children of the monarch who are not the immediate heir/heir apparent will no longer receive an HRH. In Denmark the retired queen Margaret changed her second son's and his children's style to HSH (His Serene Highness) and made the second son a Count (equivalent to Earl in UK) rather than a Prince. In Denmark the #2 son's first wife and him divorced and she got a huge payout as well as a countess title. I don't think the Danes want to see that happen again. The second wife is only a Countess and only has a HSH. Given that royals no longer marry other royals or nobles or marry for life I am sure that other monarchs will follow suit. A person can be elevated to HRH (style) and to Duke/Duchess (title just below Prince) But it is better that the "spare(s)" not be ranked as high as the Crown Prince/Princess
I believe Venetia Scott was added to give a face and voice to the thousands who tragically lost their lives in the Great Fog. I loved her character and thought it was a touching way to pay respect to them.
It is actually known that the queen mother did interfere to keep Camilla and Charles apart. Perhaps not in the way portrayed in the show but she did step in to try to prevent the marriage from happening.
I would think given everything that happened since that this is a huge regret the royal family has in hindsight. The scandal they got is worse than anything that could have happened had he been allowed to marry Camila
@@KaleidoSTAR_PH 💯💯💯 I was caught off guard by making them believe the rescue was legitimate, and I just felt the scene was brutal when it didn’t need to be. There’s no other scenes with all the episodes evoking brutality or sexy times. They REALLY should’ve braced us for it. JS Anyways, Happy Holidays to you and your family!
Every frame of "The Crown" should have a banner along the bottom:" *This film is fiction to create a timeline of historical events* " The cousins in the institution had inherited their condition from their mother's side of the family, NOT the Bowes-Lyon side of the family. The Queen Mum's nieces had cousins on their mother's side of the family with the same inherited condition. *That said: The two girls' mother visited them frequently until her death.* However, their siblings did not visit them after their mother's death; nor did the members of the extended Bowes-Lyon family OR the members of the Hepburn-Stuart- Forbes-Trefusis family. (Their mother was Hon. Fenella Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis who married John Bowes-Lyon (the Queen Mum's brother) SADLY This often happens (even in this era) when people are placed in institutions.
Since i don't watch this series, i guess i've missed a lot, but, this was a great top. Happy wednesday afternoon, Kirsten. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
It's soo good, that you made this list. It brings us back on the ground. The portrait of Charles in 4th season made him terrible. Despite his action towards Diana and issues, however it's still a show, semi-bio.
10:24 It's a fact no one knows and no one will know what was said between HRH the Queen and Michael Fagean. Michael died and the Queen is dead. The writers took creative liberty.
Not really. The decision was basically made by David Lloyd George and the advice he gave to George V. Mary may have had some influence on George V, but it was mostly the cabinet and a confirming decision from the king.
@@jasonkoch3182 The Tsar of Russia and his German-born wife were very unpopular among the working classes of the UK (many of whom supported the Bolsheviks) Had the Tsar sent his children to Britain *just before or just as* *the war began* ; they would have probably: 1.) Gotten though the lines (Finland, Sweden, Norway) . *OR* (possibly gone through Siberia to Canda AND 2.) Been taken in by the BRF (in one way or another). btw: The Queen (Mary, wife of George V.) had instructed that Balmoral castle be readied for them when the Bolshevik Revolution began. (They were not in danger under the Kerensky government) *But Nicholas and Alexandra* *Romanov waited until the* *war was well underway* (at least 2 years) before realizing that there would be an abdication and a revolution. Being accepted by UK was probably a moot point by then. The family couldn't be reached. They had fled from St. Petersburgh to the country and by then the children had measles. They were a long way from any of the so-called White Russian (those against the Bolsheviks) groups. When the Bolsheviks caught up with Romanov family, they were sent to Yekaterinburg in the Ural Mountains where they were murdered by Lenin's hand- picked thugs. ALSO: After WW1 George V. didn't want Prince Philip's parents (Danish/ Greek royals) hanging about in UK. They went to France. As did most Russian royals after WW1. When WW2 began those Russian royals in France went to Canada. (There, unlike the USA, they could keep their titles and most got jobs, bought farms, etc..)
For decades, HMG got the blame, but in the last few years, documents revealed that the King made the final decision. I didn't see that episode, but George V turned them down months before the Bolshies took over, and Lenin wanted them dead, Kerensky didn't. The surprising thing is they waited over half a year.
@@ralphl7643 The children were sick with measles shortly after the RRF retreated from St. Petersburg into a palace in the countryside. Too bad the Tsar and his wife were not as forward-thinking as Prince Philip's mother who sent his four older sisters to Britain to stay with their grandparents just as the war broke out (1914--1918). Prince Philip was born in 1921, after the war, but just a year or less before a coup in Greece against his grandfather. Prince Philip's grandmother, Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of Milford Haven was the sister of both Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of Russia AND Alexandra ("Alix") Feodorovna, Empress of Russia (the last tsarina of Russia) These women were the daughters of Princess Alice of the UK (a daughter of Queen Victoria) and (m. 1862) *Louis IV* *Grand Duke of Hesse* They grew up in Darmstadt Germany. Alice and Louis had 7 children: *Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of* . *Milford Haven* (m. 1884) *Prince Louis* . *Alexander of Battenberg* They were the maternal grandparents of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh who was married to Elizabeth II of the UK. *Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of* *Russia* (m.1884) Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia (a son of Alexander II of Russia) *Irene, Princess Henry of Prussia* (m.1888) He was a younger brother of Wilhem II of Prussia. Henry and Irene were first cousins. (They had 3 sons, two of whom died of hemophilia). *Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse* *and by Rhine* (1868--1937) He married twice: . *Princess Victoria Melita of Edinburgh* (m. 1894; div. 1901) . *Princess Eleonore of Solms-* . *Hohensolms-Lich* (m. 1905) *Prince Friedrich* (1870 -- 1873) He suffered a fall from a window that resulted in a brain hemorrhage; but he also had hemophilia which caused the injury not to clot and he died *Alexandra Feodorovna, Empress of* *Russia* (m. 1894) Nicholas II of Russia (He was the son of Alexander III of Russia) *Princess Marie* (1874 - 1878) ""Marie died of diphtheria and was buried with her mother [Victoria, Grand Duchess of Hesse] who died a few weeks later of the same disease"" Wikipedia
I find it funny that at the beginning of this segment you cant confirm any of what you are saying about what the crown got wrong or right is possible yet you put out a list that U say is NOT true from what crown portrayed, makes no sense. Why should we believe what MsMojo is saying ARE the facts about the REAL stories?? we dont. silly idea.
I regard The Crown as a skilful propaganda exercise which uses damage limitation techniques - to ultimately consolidate the mythological status of the Queen.
Which chapter from “The Crown’s” history were YOU most surprised to learn is untrue? Let us know below, and check out our video of the Top 10 Funniest The Crown Moments - ua-cam.com/video/ntPxwKP8pnw/v-deo.html
I’ve also grown increasingly angry with the Fayed’s. I couldn’t believe how spineless Dodi was and how much of a racist opportunist his father was. His father did what he did to get British citizenship and after everything he lost, he STILL doesn’t have it. Honestly I wish Princess Diana never met either of them.
The Duke of Edinburgh was Royal before marrying Princess Elizabeth. He would have never refused to kneel.
OF course but that wasn’t the point. The writers were suggesting he didn’t want to kneel to his wife/a woman. I don’t agree with that either but it was never about his lack of understanding of protocol
its absolute rubbish. Philip respected the traditions of monarchy and he respected his wife as queen@@LCO82
While yet he was royalty, he was a father who wasn't allowed to give his children his name.
Wrong! Monarch calls the shots!
He gave up his royal HRH of Denmark/Greece
titles of D/G and citizenship to become a
British citizen.
King George VI sponsored Prince Philip in
the organization of KG (Knights of the
Garter) a few months before his wedding
to Elizabeth. Awhile later King George
gave Philip a "R.H." (Royal Highness --a
bottom rank of the "style" for foreign
princes who married British princesses
and queens).He was given the title Duke
of Edinburgh the day before the wedding.
"The Crown's" crowning of Prince Philip
never happened. But it made for good
TV
Reality:
*In 1958 Queen Elizabeth signed the letters*
*patent to make Philip:* "The Prince (HRH)
Philip of the UK." (HRH= His Royal Highness)
That is the same style as the queen, Charles
and Anne "The" prince gave him precedence
over Charles, Anne, Princess Margaret
and everybody else (except the Queen Mum).
At this time Philip was also made regent, in the
event, of the HMTQ's death.
In addition, any non-royal members descended
from Queen Elizabeth would have the surname
of Mountbatten--Windsor
So far, only Prince Edwards daughter and son;
who were never given an HRH have the
surname Mountbatten-Windsor.
Now James has taken his father's old title
(Earl of Wessex) and Louise is known as
Lady Louise (her father is a prince and
he had the Wessex title before becoming
Duke of Edinburgh. Prince Edward's
surname is Windsor (HRH, child of sovereign)
Prince Edward's Dukedom (DoE) will revert
back to the sovereign upon his death; just
as Prince Philip's DoE reverted back to
the sovereign after Prince Philip died.
Anne, being a female, her children took her
husband's surname (Phillips). Anne was
given an HRH at birth, as were her siblings
(children of the monarch) Anne and Mark
Phillips turned down a royal style and titles
for her children.
Prince Andrew decided that his daughters
would receive the HRH and be styled
as Princesses. He can not pass on his title
as Duke of York (Primogeniture laws)
Because of that, Beatrice and Eugenie's
maiden surname was Windsor. (Now they
use their husband's surnames.)
1935 Law -- George V.: Only the children
and grandchildren of the monarch are
eligible to be styled as Prince/Princess.
Queen Elizabeth made an exception,
for William's children (great-gradchildren
of the monarch) But Harry and Meghan's
children (if they exist -- who knows?) had
to wait until Charles was king.)
I think that in the future the children of
the monarch who are not the immediate
heir/heir apparent will no longer receive
an HRH.
In Denmark the retired queen Margaret
changed her second son's and his children's
style to HSH (His Serene Highness) and
made the second son a Count (equivalent
to Earl in UK) rather than a Prince.
In Denmark the #2 son's first wife and
him divorced and she got a huge payout
as well as a countess title. I don't think
the Danes want to see that happen
again. The second wife is only a
Countess and only has a HSH.
Given that royals no longer marry other
royals or nobles or marry for life I am sure
that other monarchs will follow suit.
A person can be elevated to HRH (style)
and to Duke/Duchess (title just below Prince)
But it is better that the "spare(s)" not be
ranked as high as the Crown Prince/Princess
I believe Venetia Scott was added to give a face and voice to the thousands who tragically lost their lives in the Great Fog. I loved her character and thought it was a touching way to pay respect to them.
I hadn’t heard of the Great Fog before so this was interesting to learn.
It is actually known that the queen mother did interfere to keep Camilla and Charles apart. Perhaps not in the way portrayed in the show but she did step in to try to prevent the marriage from happening.
I would think given everything that happened since that this is a huge regret the royal family has in hindsight. The scandal they got is worse than anything that could have happened had he been allowed to marry Camila
when did she do this then?
The fate of the Romanovs was truly devastating and I hope the royals who refused to grant them asylum are scarred for that.
Probably not.
The ones that refused them asylum are long dead.
They’ve been dead for about a hundred years…
@@andrepettersson175I was going to say this- no one alive currently had anything to do with the Romanovs
The scene of the Russian family meeting their fate was violent and heart breaking 💔 to watch 📺📺📺🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️
Especially for Russians themselves
Completely agree and it was pretty harsh throwing it in the first few minutes of the episode without any trigger warning
@@aislingrvr yes a warning would’ve been appreciated because this was VERY violent. 💯💯💯💯
that scene makes my heart break in shambles, its unsettling and painful to watch 😢
@@KaleidoSTAR_PH 💯💯💯
I was caught off guard by making them believe the rescue was legitimate, and I just felt the scene was brutal when it didn’t need to be. There’s no other scenes with all the episodes evoking brutality or sexy times. They REALLY should’ve braced us for it. JS
Anyways, Happy Holidays to you and your family!
That ''Impatiev House'' episode, got me in my feelings
Thank you for addressing the whole kneeling thing, it never happened like that in real life!
Every frame of "The Crown" should have a banner along the bottom:" *This film is fiction to create a timeline of historical events* "
The cousins in the institution had inherited their condition from their mother's side of the family, NOT the Bowes-Lyon side of
the family. The Queen Mum's nieces had cousins on their mother's side of the family with the same inherited condition.
*That said: The two girls' mother visited them frequently until her death.* However, their siblings did not visit them after
their mother's death; nor did the members of the extended Bowes-Lyon family OR the members of the Hepburn-Stuart-
Forbes-Trefusis family. (Their mother was Hon. Fenella Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis who married John Bowes-Lyon
(the Queen Mum's brother)
SADLY This often happens (even in this era) when people are placed in institutions.
Since i don't watch this series, i guess i've missed a lot, but, this was a great top. Happy wednesday afternoon, Kirsten. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
It's soo good, that you made this list. It brings us back on the ground. The portrait of Charles in 4th season made him terrible. Despite his action towards Diana and issues, however it's still a show, semi-bio.
Princess Alice interview.
10:24 It's a fact no one knows and no one will know what was said between HRH the Queen and Michael Fagean. Michael died and the Queen is dead. The writers took creative liberty.
The crown ending is near wonder how it will end
Sigh. Many seem to forget that The Crown was a work of fiction, not a documentary... Very loosely based on reality... but still FICTION!
I think that throughout
every episode a banner
should be on the bottom
stating that the Crown
is fiction, loosely based
on real events.
Just ten 🤔
Welcome to Crown Melbourne 🎰
No. 7 was probably true based on various pieces of evidence, such as both of them wanted their relatives being the consort.
I thought it was true Queen Mary's decision about the Romanovs.
Not really. The decision was basically made by David Lloyd George and the advice he gave to George V. Mary may have had some influence on George V, but it was mostly the cabinet and a confirming decision from the king.
@@jasonkoch3182
The Tsar of Russia and his
German-born wife were very
unpopular among the working
classes of the UK (many of
whom supported the Bolsheviks)
Had the Tsar sent his children
to Britain *just before or just as*
*the war began* ; they would
have probably:
1.) Gotten though the lines
(Finland, Sweden, Norway)
. *OR* (possibly gone through
Siberia to Canda AND
2.) Been taken in by the BRF
(in one way or another).
btw: The Queen (Mary, wife of
George V.) had instructed that
Balmoral castle be readied for
them when the Bolshevik
Revolution began. (They were
not in danger under the Kerensky
government)
*But Nicholas and Alexandra*
*Romanov waited until the*
*war was well underway*
(at least 2 years) before
realizing that there would
be an abdication and a
revolution.
Being accepted by UK was
probably a moot point by
then. The family couldn't
be reached. They had fled
from St. Petersburgh to the
country and by then the children
had measles. They were a long
way from any of the so-called
White Russian (those against
the Bolsheviks) groups.
When the Bolsheviks caught
up with Romanov family, they
were sent to Yekaterinburg in
the Ural Mountains where they
were murdered by Lenin's hand-
picked thugs.
ALSO:
After WW1 George V. didn't want
Prince Philip's parents (Danish/
Greek royals) hanging about in UK.
They went to France. As did most
Russian royals after WW1.
When WW2 began those Russian
royals in France went to Canada.
(There, unlike the USA, they could
keep their titles and most got jobs,
bought farms, etc..)
For decades, HMG got the blame, but in the last few years, documents revealed that the King made the final decision. I didn't see that episode, but George V turned them down months before the Bolshies took over, and Lenin wanted them dead, Kerensky didn't. The surprising thing is they waited over half a year.
@@ralphl7643
The children were sick with measles
shortly after the RRF retreated from
St. Petersburg into a palace in the
countryside.
Too bad the Tsar and his wife were not
as forward-thinking as Prince Philip's
mother who sent his four older sisters
to Britain to stay with their grandparents
just as the war broke out (1914--1918).
Prince Philip was born in 1921, after the
war, but just a year or less before a coup
in Greece against his grandfather.
Prince Philip's grandmother, Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of Milford Haven was the sister of
both Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of
Russia AND Alexandra ("Alix") Feodorovna,
Empress of Russia (the last tsarina of Russia)
These women were the daughters of
Princess Alice of the UK (a daughter of
Queen Victoria) and (m. 1862) *Louis IV*
*Grand Duke of Hesse* They grew up in
Darmstadt Germany. Alice and Louis
had 7 children:
*Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of*
. *Milford Haven* (m. 1884) *Prince Louis*
. *Alexander of Battenberg* They were the
maternal grandparents of Prince Philip,
Duke of Edinburgh who was married to
Elizabeth II of the UK.
*Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of*
*Russia* (m.1884) Grand Duke Sergei
Alexandrovich of Russia (a son of
Alexander II of Russia)
*Irene, Princess Henry of Prussia*
(m.1888) He was a younger brother
of Wilhem II of Prussia. Henry and
Irene were first cousins. (They had
3 sons, two of whom died of hemophilia).
*Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse*
*and by Rhine* (1868--1937) He married
twice:
. *Princess Victoria Melita of Edinburgh*
(m. 1894; div. 1901)
. *Princess Eleonore of Solms-*
. *Hohensolms-Lich* (m. 1905)
*Prince Friedrich* (1870 -- 1873)
He suffered a fall from a window that
resulted in a brain hemorrhage; but he
also had hemophilia which caused the
injury not to clot and he died
*Alexandra Feodorovna, Empress of*
*Russia* (m. 1894) Nicholas II of Russia
(He was the son of Alexander III of Russia)
*Princess Marie* (1874 - 1878)
""Marie died of diphtheria and was
buried with her mother [Victoria, Grand
Duchess of Hesse] who died a few weeks
later of the same disease"" Wikipedia
This show feels like it was made to be both your mom's favorite show while also pissing off all Royalist Simps in the UK.
Only 10 - surely you are kidding!
I find it funny that at the beginning of this segment you cant confirm any of what you are saying about what the crown got wrong or right is possible yet you put out a list that U say is NOT true from what crown portrayed, makes no sense. Why should we believe what MsMojo is saying ARE the facts about the REAL stories?? we dont. silly idea.
@tas22222 My thoughts too! What makes HER an authority?
Why don't you do your own
research?
I regard The Crown as a skilful propaganda exercise which uses damage limitation techniques - to ultimately consolidate the mythological status of the Queen.
not real
Maybe 'The Crown' has good costumes. scenography or actors, but in terms of history and politics it looks like total overrated rubbish.
It’s an entertainment show, they have never claimed to be realistic or a documentary. 🙄