SBMM & WHY IT NEEDS TO CHANGE

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  • @_x4858
    @_x4858 4 роки тому +243

    Remember the matchmaking in MW2? Some games you dominate, some games you get dominated, some games you're so evenly matched you just throw your body on the objective to break the tie. I miss that shit.

    • @BonAmputee
      @BonAmputee 4 роки тому +1

      I miss it so much as well.

    • @kylemuchow8742
      @kylemuchow8742 4 роки тому +33

      Also they used to even out teams within the lobby by separating the 2 best people from the match before. Then they would separate the 3rd and 4th best people and this mad the game less sweaty and distributed the sweat evenly. Now days games are often boring because the games are lop sided and even rhe team who is winning is bored because they cant find kills

    • @mattbradley408
      @mattbradley408 4 роки тому +4

      literally couldn’t describe it better it miss it so much

    • @BonAmputee
      @BonAmputee 4 роки тому +1

      @@mattbradley408 Right? Hopefully fingers crossed we can get something like that in cold war.

    • @MilklnTheFridge
      @MilklnTheFridge 4 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure that’s because there would have been no sbmm?

  • @samv2018
    @samv2018 4 роки тому +828

    I’ve never ‘felt’ SBMM Until Modern Warfare 2019, and now the alpha. This video was nothing but facts and I completely agree.

    • @zimfearme7282
      @zimfearme7282 4 роки тому +20

      In the past, I think it was form a lobby and then rank to form the teams. For a long time it has seemed like a lot of the time the best player in the last game would leave so he didnt get teamed with the double negatives next game.

    • @aesie1229
      @aesie1229 4 роки тому +25

      Haven’t played the alpha but holy shit MW19 is so fucking cancer

    • @tastytucker981
      @tastytucker981 4 роки тому +19

      I feel like it's been there since AW. Could be wrong on that tho except bo3 had another system where the best player in a lobby would get teamed up with the worst players

    • @54CA
      @54CA 4 роки тому

      aesie yeah it’s getting old and annoying

    • @clayton2500
      @clayton2500 4 роки тому +13

      It was definitely in advanced warfare. That’s the game where reverse boosting became huge

  • @FearSpartans
    @FearSpartans 4 роки тому +205

    The sbmm in black ops 2 was incredibly minimal and mainly just had team balancing. I know this because they had a ranked playlist and the ranked players in my masters division were better than the public match players 99 times out of 100

    • @DirdyJoker
      @DirdyJoker 4 роки тому +1

      Too right

    • @aesie1229
      @aesie1229 4 роки тому +8

      Agreed blops 2 felt just right idk

    • @cortal_scourge3847
      @cortal_scourge3847 4 роки тому +7

      There would probably be like 1-2 good players on each team to make it fair. Miss it so much

    • @tylerroth
      @tylerroth 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah dude grinding to masters every season was so intense. I'd play ranked for a few hours and then go to regular playlist and everyone felt like bots in comparison.

  • @ewokoniad2396
    @ewokoniad2396 4 роки тому +2751

    "if you dont like sbmm then get better" people dont realize the better you are the worse it gets

    • @acriddd2875
      @acriddd2875 3 роки тому +285

      Yea cause the ones defending sbmm prob ass 🤣🤣

    • @acriddd2875
      @acriddd2875 3 роки тому +190

      but that’s facts bro if u good at the game u basically get penalized it’s stupid

    • @phantomx384
      @phantomx384 3 роки тому +6

      Acriddd yes omfg

    • @kiltedkiller8178
      @kiltedkiller8178 3 роки тому +16

      I ain’t exactly good and 8/10 games we all get destroyed

    • @firstnamelastname4822
      @firstnamelastname4822 3 роки тому +27

      Sorry you have the situational awareness of a rock and can't hang in big boy lobbies with people who actually have thumbs. I sit in 4.0+ lobbies all day and have plenty of good games.

  • @jackj4631
    @jackj4631 4 роки тому +523

    All they need to do is make a ranked system like they had in BO2, that shit was perfect.

    • @frankgarcia6035
      @frankgarcia6035 4 роки тому +3

      I did like BO2 ranked system, but even it needed work, let's be honest.

    • @justXsmokeXtrees
      @justXsmokeXtrees 4 роки тому +2

      @@frankgarcia6035 how?

    • @jackj4631
      @jackj4631 4 роки тому +11

      @@frankgarcia6035 ok sure, but it's not hard to build on the foundation that they already made with new ideas! Hopefully they aren't too stubborn with it.

    • @frankgarcia6035
      @frankgarcia6035 4 роки тому +3

      @@jackj4631 Totally agree man. They could really do wonders with a good ranked system.

    • @frankgarcia6035
      @frankgarcia6035 4 роки тому +8

      @@justXsmokeXtrees better rewards/more incentives. better matchmaking. I used to go in solo sometimes and get crappy team mates who would leave against a team of 4. Maybe higher tier ranks, like more divisions. It was a good ranked system at the time, i wont deny. Just think it needs modern improvements.

  • @drakecoleman9939
    @drakecoleman9939 4 роки тому +365

    “Noobies hold this chopper gunny” 😂😂😂 I was dying bro

    • @callmeenzy5715
      @callmeenzy5715 4 роки тому +10

      That shit was hilarious

    • @jayrjayrjayrjayr8650
      @jayrjayrjayrjayr8650 4 роки тому +6

      Excuse me, but what does it supposed to mean?

    • @Xerlocke
      @Xerlocke 4 роки тому +13

      Jayr Jayr Jayr Jayr It means if you want SBMM on, you probably suck and he’s gonna get a chopper gunner on you

    • @therealdealnico
      @therealdealnico 4 роки тому +1

      Same haha. Its facts

    • @stehpzy1141
      @stehpzy1141 4 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @RMN-XII
    @RMN-XII 4 роки тому +99

    My IRL friends literally didn't want to play with me cause of the sweaty lobbies we were getting in, SBMM really needs to be tuned back and hopefully videos like this make it happen

    • @cameronspivey186
      @cameronspivey186 4 роки тому +13

      Same some of my friends are below a 1 kd and they don’t like to play with me in my lobbies because the players we match up against. There is some days I would play alone while others played together.

    • @asinideful
      @asinideful 4 роки тому +8

      I have friends that only want to play with me because they know me IRL. Because of SBMM and the fact I am really good they end up getting 💩 on and get a terrible experience and impression of the game. SBMM just ruins public matches no matter how you look at it.

    • @halfrican69
      @halfrican69 4 роки тому +4

      Same bro. I take the game a bit more seriously than my friends do and my skill level is a bit higher if im being frank, so they legit just have a bad time playing with me

    • @twistblitzzi1960
      @twistblitzzi1960 4 роки тому +6

      for fucking real the few friends that still would play cod with me literally told me no I don't want to play with you cause I just get shit on. congrats activasion

    • @joshuag8
      @joshuag8 4 роки тому +1

      That' sucks fam

  • @alexmaia7669
    @alexmaia7669 4 роки тому +2721

    "I feel like Im being penalized for being good at the game"
    THIS IS IT.

    • @rossvdh5820
      @rossvdh5820 4 роки тому +64

      So true. They need to drop sbmm

    • @sneakkyz3696
      @sneakkyz3696 4 роки тому +78

      Penalized because you have to play against same skill? F****** pathetic

    • @rossvdh5820
      @rossvdh5820 4 роки тому +54

      @@sneakkyz3696 why does it need to be in the game? So .5 k/d players have a chance? You're saying you'd rather have sbmm in the game and consistently face harder competition, if you have a higher k/d. They can just leave it alone. There's no sbmm in madden.

    • @rossvdh5820
      @rossvdh5820 4 роки тому +44

      And if I'm in a lobby facing 1 guy .5 k/d and 4 guys that have 5.0 k/d so be it. Let it be random

    • @ErenTheWarcriminal
      @ErenTheWarcriminal 4 роки тому +9

      He hasn’t said anything the community hasn’t for +5 years

  • @theo8346
    @theo8346 4 роки тому +1582

    Praying for ranked play and a “Road to Masters Division” series

    • @ethancarter8195
      @ethancarter8195 4 роки тому +29

      Yes a ranked system would be great

    • @aybay8723
      @aybay8723 4 роки тому +61

      League play like in Black ops 2 would be perfect, a lot more sweats nowadays so it would been much more competitive than it was back then

    • @dylanhoen7223
      @dylanhoen7223 4 роки тому +36

      literally, just take what they had in bo2 for leuage play and place it in Cold war and you can have a little bit of SBMM for pubs i dont want to go 127-4 against little timmy with 1 arm from down the road

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому +7

      @@aybay8723 WW2 Ranked > BO2 LP tbh
      WW2 Ranked was almost flawless in every sense of the word imo ofc

    • @clarkmueller1564
      @clarkmueller1564 4 роки тому +7

      Ranked is great for the people that like to play and like the competitiveness of the game. It’s also good because it’s separated from the people who just want to play casually.

  • @freshbaiii718
    @freshbaiii718 4 роки тому +379

    Sbmm literally ruined cod, it made it fun not knowing who u were playing against instead of wiping my palms after every game do due fightin for my life each on cod

    • @ZZ-hb1ho
      @ZZ-hb1ho 4 роки тому +43

      Facts, if it stays like this I’m just not getting cod anymore, no sense in playing a game that feels like work 99% of the time.

    • @rossadamdixon
      @rossadamdixon 4 роки тому +27

      @@ZZ-hb1ho agreed. It was great when in a hard lobby and you and your friends were like right boys, time to get serious!!! Lose first map against a clan. Come in we are staying in until we win. But this is why it's fun. You have to change game style based on the lobby. Playing against similar playstyles just makes games repetitive and boring.

    • @MrJaymzt1
      @MrJaymzt1 4 роки тому +3

      It would always be exciting and competitive in BO1 where there was a really good enemy player, but the game wasn’t thrown off as most lobbies were mixed in skill level

    • @moisestazaro5117
      @moisestazaro5117 4 роки тому +3

      Z Z i feel exhausted after 2 games in MW i had to quit MW cuz i feel like i was playing only ppl on crack. My health was better after i quit. I dont getting Cold war if there is SBMM

    • @ajthecipher1588
      @ajthecipher1588 4 роки тому +2

      Can’t agree with you anymore . It’s the reason why I wait on cods now . Ever since advanced warfare I stopped buying on release .

  • @dopelikedom
    @dopelikedom 4 роки тому +294

    “newbie hold this choppy gunny” was funny as hell 😂

    • @valentinofilipovic3297
      @valentinofilipovic3297 4 роки тому

      Its so sad that he is apologising for anything.. you one sucks at cod, get better instead of crying and constantly looking Your entitlement of other easy players....

  • @mw3raptor22
    @mw3raptor22 4 роки тому +655

    sbmm is trash have a ranked playlist and call it a day, Bo2 had it perfect.

    • @chrisbtw6896
      @chrisbtw6896 3 роки тому +74

      Fr, bo2 MP was SO MUCH FUN, i went from a bot to way above average because in bo2 you actually learned a lot from the better players while not getting shit on 24/7

    • @TheYorkshireLad1997
      @TheYorkshireLad1997 3 роки тому +5

      @Guillermo Reynoso this community would mess it up so much.
      It wouldn't play the same, everyone would play much slower in general and you'd end up either needing to nerf the FAL, M8, SMR and the Swat and completely ruin the guns just to make it possible for more aggressive playstyles.
      At least they wouldn't be able to have such overpowered classes though

    • @vnny1411
      @vnny1411 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheYorkshireLad1997 facts the way the “average” player plays CoD now has evolved drastically since Black Ops II

    • @skinnymelo
      @skinnymelo 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheYorkshireLad1997 FAL was already banned in competitive because it was already broken. If there is the same no sbmm in bo2 aside from lobby matchup like before the community can try their hardest to mess it up but the movement was too fluid for camping to matter. On bo2 with dexterity you could rush someone in a corner hiding with a shotgun behind a riot shield and win the gunfight with an msmc. You could always outgun in cod up until Bo4. Cod MW and Cold War makes people camp because of the unnecessary weapon attachments and shit maps. No matter how ppl play, bo2 too good to be effected.

    • @TheYorkshireLad1997
      @TheYorkshireLad1997 3 роки тому

      @@skinnymelo because the guys sitting in corners with riot shields and shotguns usually weren't that good.
      Im talking about the players that people bitch about now, the ones that just sit on head glitches with burst rifles and barely move all game. The Fal was banned in Comp but it wasn't banned in pubs. The only plus side is these guys wouldn't be able to run 5 attachments, have 6 perks and overkill a shotgun on BO2. But 4 people all running Fals and working together to lock down the maps would still happen over and over again regardless of how "fluid" the movement is.

  • @danieldirekoglu5243
    @danieldirekoglu5243 4 роки тому +375

    The current implementation doesn’t even protect casual players: it feels like a pendulum with people going back and forth between crushing and being crushed.

    • @Kentril2112
      @Kentril2112 4 роки тому +7

      Exactly. Get stomped for a while then you’ll get a game or two where you pop off only to get stomped again. Not keeping lobbies together after a match hurts a bit too since when you find that balanced lobby, you disband after the match ends.

    • @vert3cx373
      @vert3cx373 4 роки тому +4

      Yup exactly, crush -> get crushed-> okayish -> okayish -> get crushed. Your Win/Loss ratio isn't even an accurate representation of how well you play, its how well the SBMM system wants you to play or do. And it fucking sucks to sit there and to have such inconsistent games which is just plain annoying and makes you NOT wanna pay because you have NO say, NO control and NO resolution for it.

    • @Enlightenment99
      @Enlightenment99 3 роки тому +1

      Facts. SBMM protects the “what does this button do?” type of players. Not casuals who play cod a couple of times a week

    • @beri4138
      @beri4138 3 роки тому +1

      @@Enlightenment99 True. Casual players with a KD of 0.7-1.5 are not protected at all.
      It's only literal retards with a 0.1 KD who like the system.

  • @thomasdeschamps9732
    @thomasdeschamps9732 4 роки тому +376

    Scump could not have said this more clearly, 100% agree.

  • @user-gv9rw3fd4n
    @user-gv9rw3fd4n 4 роки тому +2172

    Just get ninja to complain. The devs love him

  • @soviexe
    @soviexe 4 роки тому +623

    SBMM ruined my experience with MW 2019, even effects playing with my buddies who are a bit more casual than me.
    Make COD Casual Again.
    #RemoveSBMM

    • @soviexe
      @soviexe 3 роки тому +3

      @vParacetamol i feel ur pain homie we all do

    • @icry7355
      @icry7355 3 роки тому +5

      playing with friends in mw is ass if they are worse than you :( They just dont have fun playing with me.

    • @soviexe
      @soviexe 3 роки тому

      @Benjamin Williamson damn, i don't remember he/she asking.

    • @showtime1235
      @showtime1235 3 роки тому

      This argument doesn’t make sense

    • @soviexe
      @soviexe 3 роки тому

      @@showtime1235 argument?

  • @ha6892
    @ha6892 4 роки тому +414

    Should be connection based again with a ranked playlist that makes everyone happy

    • @chiiefff
      @chiiefff 4 роки тому +14

      100%. League Play and good connection in pubs >

    • @kingkongnarek
      @kingkongnarek 4 роки тому

      chief bo2’s league play... would be so good

    • @JubaOnPC
      @JubaOnPC 4 роки тому

      Its always been connection based

    • @metromikey1985
      @metromikey1985 4 роки тому

      #RemoveSBMM

    • @KonaDaGamah
      @KonaDaGamah 4 роки тому

      Agree

  • @knug_chuk
    @knug_chuk 4 роки тому +196

    Thank you for speaking on this.

    • @Spryze
      @Spryze 4 роки тому

      @Bane i really don't think so though, they already made some adjustments from the first alpha release.

    • @Jherson-
      @Jherson- 4 роки тому

      @Bane yeah cause us old players keep on buying their games and that's the only thing they wan't, people buying their games

    • @Spryze
      @Spryze 4 роки тому

      @Bane for real, they always catering to the casuals, it's so fkn annoying sometimes, but then again i cant do anything about it, maybe just give feedback but that's about it

    • @Spryze
      @Spryze 4 роки тому

      @Micah oh tbh im fine if someone's on par with me or even better, but if it gets to the point to where it doesn't even feel like pub anymore, then of course imma complain. And it's not just me, a lot of other people as well.

    • @Spryze
      @Spryze 4 роки тому

      @Micahliterally look at all the people who are opposing the idea, some are even toxic enough to send death threats to treyarch when giving feedback about SBMM so yeah, not just me

  • @roryluukas2703
    @roryluukas2703 4 роки тому +409

    My friends literally had to split off with me on the first night of the alpha and it was gutting, I was dropping 40-50kill games while they were going like 3-27 and the highest one of them got was 21-19.
    Skill based matchmaking ruined my experience as a better player and my friends experience as casual players.

    • @adameaszy7879
      @adameaszy7879 4 роки тому +85

      This imo is the best argument against sbmm. So all of my friends have to be of equal skill or most, if not all, of us are going to have a bad time. Nice match making system.

    • @kaneoram6400
      @kaneoram6400 4 роки тому +25

      MW I couldn’t even host a party with my friends because they would leave due to the level being way too high, MW was the first COD I’ve played since BO3 and the SBMM is ridiculous.

    • @kylewittman8785
      @kylewittman8785 4 роки тому +20

      Same stuff happens to me in MW. I'm not a "good" player in terms of CDL/competitive CoD. A slightly above average casual player at best. I play 3-4 nights a week after work and I can compete with around a 1.1 K/D & 1.0 W/L in CDL playlists. Overall like a 1.22 K/D & 1.08 W/L (last I checked at least). So when my buddies get on, who play once a week, shoot maybe even once a month, it's almost no fun for them because my SBMM puts them in lobbies where it is impossible for them to get more than 10 kills (I think they're all around a 0.9 K/D typically, which isn't horrid). Makes me feel shitty for having them even get on and I have no way of making it fun other than sweating objectives with them and thanking them for their time actually playing the objectives as I take slaying duties and do my best to play objectives as well. Just sucks, this is the first CoD I've played since BO2 and I loved it at first, it reignited my interest in gaming and taking CoD a little more seriously now that I'm not a 15 year old kid slamming controllers and screaming at my basement TV after dying by another BO2 RC-XD. Some nights I just want to vibe and others I want to sweat, with or without the boys.

    • @mxrty313
      @mxrty313 4 роки тому +5

      The thing about being an above average player is that I don't need to sweat all the time. I've played long enough to just have a general better understanding of the cod. I don't agree with SBMM because I can no longer just chill after playing GBs or the half assed CDL playlist. My friends don't play CDL so I like to join them in pubs, but the experience is completely ruined by the SBMM. Sometimes for me in pubs it's not always about getting nukes or whatever, I literally just wanna play with my friends and have fun. That's it

    • @kaneoram6400
      @kaneoram6400 4 роки тому +1

      Nebula Methodz exactly that! My friends are painful to watch which can be funny at times, but I feel for them because they struggle to do well in the lobbies we join.
      Just miss the days of entering a lobby which is then split based upon skill.

  • @garybishopboggs6036
    @garybishopboggs6036 3 роки тому +207

    The whole “get better” thing is pointless. If you get better they’ll just throw you in a higher bracket. It’s a never ending cycle of sweating to get a good game.

    • @babosanders5223
      @babosanders5223 3 роки тому +15

      i wanted to chill have a beer and snipe and i can’t because i have to eventually switch to an MP5 and sweat and i’m not even good at the game. i play two games and i’m done with it

    • @edwincabezapollo
      @edwincabezapollo 3 роки тому +3

      @The elephant In the room THATS whats actuallly happening to me in cod mw i ve never played any cod and started playing cod mw when it came out and they way ppl play it man it just made me go crazy that i had to stop playing it...ppl camping in EVERY map aim in and holding angles o in a head glich it just so sad im runnning the whole map i dont see nobody and all of sudden i get killed by somone in a window that u CANT EVEN see cuz head glich sad game....

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats 3 роки тому +1

      @@babosanders5223 doesn't help that the snipers as complete ass in cold war lmao

    • @lordofweed
      @lordofweed 3 роки тому

      Youre wrong. You have to get better 😂😂😂😅

    • @supersonic7605
      @supersonic7605 3 роки тому +3

      Sucked 10 years ago, got better, got really good, and I guess now I'm being punished for it by not allowing me to relax because good aim and good reflexes now make you a "bully" to the noobs spending so much money on the game

  • @LeonCharmeleon
    @LeonCharmeleon 4 роки тому +363

    Worse thing about SBMM is that they usually put me in teams that are really bad at the game and the game thinks I can carry them, even though my KD isnt high (1.3) while their entire team are 6 man Q.

    • @gomptv4392
      @gomptv4392 4 роки тому +28

      that happens to me all the time bruhh :S

    • @PBYZB
      @PBYZB 4 роки тому +25

      I couldn’t agree more with this. I’m an avid S&D player 2.67 k/d. That’s all I play. No matter what I always get on the shittier team, I’m dropping like 20 kills. I very rarely have a teammate that is going over like 5 kills in a match. I ended up just quitting the game a few months ago from the just absolute insane lobbies I was thrown in. If SBMM exists why am I always carrying the team. Shit gets old after a while when you feel like it’s a 1v6 every round.

    • @corporatestatusbrah
      @corporatestatusbrah 4 роки тому +2

      This was my issue the entire Alpha. All my friends are on Xbox, but I have both and played the entire weekend by myself. Winning games were excruciating playing by yourself.

    • @BonafideBril
      @BonafideBril 4 роки тому +8

      Man tell me about it. My alpha experience was just this. I'm typically a 1.5 - 2 kd player over the life of the game depending on the cod. I like going for high kills but I also like to win and I HATE being the absolute best on my team. Especially in objective based games like Dom where mfers don't know how to hop on a flag or continuously lose important gunfights that can help us get the dub. My first few games on the alpha was 40+ kills with decent teammates and minimal deaths. Then I got thrown into lobbies where I'm going BALLS HARD for 25 kills and a 2 k/d and my teammates are all going negative smh

    • @TheJbrading
      @TheJbrading 4 роки тому

      Dis me

  • @MrTurtles39
    @MrTurtles39 4 роки тому +1147

    The “skill based” they used in bo2 was perfect

    • @sosamiguel2812
      @sosamiguel2812 4 роки тому +112

      They used lobby leaderboard to separate the teams, no other COD done that

    • @cozmics1191
      @cozmics1191 4 роки тому +56

      There was no skill based match making in bo2 lol, there was a ranked playlist tho

    • @Thecrazygamers2000
      @Thecrazygamers2000 4 роки тому +27

      @@cozmics1191 Developer claims there was cause he coded it Lol

    • @cozmics1191
      @cozmics1191 4 роки тому +16

      @@Thecrazygamers2000 who? He couldve coded it but does he know where it went? Probably in the ranked playlist lol

    • @stanleysanchez162
      @stanleysanchez162 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, or even COD Ghost

  • @kianyt5804
    @kianyt5804 4 роки тому +53

    My first cod was mw3 and i went 3-30 every game for 5 months, and at the top of each lobby was always some 5kd guy with 40+ kills frying everybody. Instead of getting mad, that made me want to learn and get better and be like him (I even remember getting the "most time spent watching killcams" accolade most games lol). Eventually, I started getting better, and every time I hit a new milestone, I felt a huge rush, and that's what made the game worth playing. I still remember my first 20 kill game on dome or my first AC-130 on mission. Even though I was getting shit on most games, I was still having fun. I kept progressing, and by january 2013, I was shitting on christmas noobs on bo2; now I was the guy at the top of the leaderboard dropping 40 and calling in swarms. I had worked hard and it payed off; I was getting results and having more fun on cod than ever before.
    If pro-SBMM ppl had their way, that kind of story, the kind that every single person who cares about cod can relate to, simply wouldn't happen. After your first 10 games getting familiar with the controls, you'd be going 15-15 every game for the rest of your life and every player in the world would have a 1.0kd. Every pub game would be super close and go down to the wire, but the skies would be empty with not a killstreak in sight, you'd never hear a nuke getting called in to end a game, you'd never see the killfeed light up with a 5 on screen, you'd never see your dead body getting teabagged after the guy you just spawnkilled 5 times snuck around and stabbed you in the back, you'd never see the guy who got to 29 way before everyone else in ffa jumping off a building spinning around on the highest sens with a tac insert, you'd never call in a chopper gunner just to have everybody ragequit, you'd never die first every round of an SnD and get to spectate the guy winning every defense in a 1v4 with bomb down.
    Idk... doesn't really sound like cod to me. Fuck SBMM

    • @TeamNoLackin79
      @TeamNoLackin79 4 роки тому +3

      Same for me. I am late to COD I started on BO1, BO3, MW RM, IW, WW2 with and without ranked, and all of those game were fun to play but this new shit feels like I am goddamn tournament in every lobby. I can't play it for more than 30 mins before I turning it off or play something else especially if you are not playing with a sweating squad. SBMM does not look like it is going anywhere no time soon so it looking like i am going to have to divorce COD :(

    • @Godzirra-San
      @Godzirra-San 4 роки тому +1

      I was so good at bo1 that I had the freedom to perfect blind rushing (to me this is giving shutter players an advantage and shitting on them anyway). Now my "skill" puts me in a mind numbing lobby with campers and I haven't bought a cod in 5 years. Nty.

    • @johnjohnson6311
      @johnjohnson6311 4 роки тому +2

      Best comment ever.

    • @NelzYT
      @NelzYT 4 роки тому +1

      facts

    • @deoxys8194
      @deoxys8194 4 роки тому

      Ong it was my first cod. I was happy to even go 20-15

  • @EliteShot
    @EliteShot 3 роки тому +334

    Thanks for making me feel better Scumpy.

    • @Trey_.z
      @Trey_.z 3 роки тому

      Get better at the game

    • @mjss1980NL
      @mjss1980NL 3 роки тому +9

      @@Trey_.z hope you are joking 😂😂 Eliteshot is a top 5% player if not top1% 🤷‍♂️😂😂😂

    • @Kevin-qq9dd
      @Kevin-qq9dd 3 роки тому

      @@mjss1980NL scumpy is better shut up

    • @mjss1980NL
      @mjss1980NL 3 роки тому +2

      @@Kevin-qq9dd Eziekel, whenever i hear a name like that i think about a Inbred 😂 please dont state the obvious you make yourself look silly. Scump is way better but eliteshot is still a top 1% player. You know how manny players there are worldwide 😂😂😂

    • @Kevin-qq9dd
      @Kevin-qq9dd 3 роки тому +1

      @@mjss1980NL nah bro there’s a shit ton of kids who don’t know who scumpy is most these kids know tfue, ninja etc. time to get these mf’s to know the OG’s

  • @alexxxnder4982
    @alexxxnder4982 4 роки тому +669

    I got my shit milly rocked when I was younger and now it's time for the younger generation to go through the trial

    • @patioperformancecrew2221
      @patioperformancecrew2221 4 роки тому +72

      Facts I was terrible on COD4 when I first started now every lobby I play is just bunny hopping and slide cancel all game. Boring and repetitive

    • @JiqzEdits
      @JiqzEdits 4 роки тому +53

      all these years of grinding to get a building cod career slaughtering noobs, and all that grinding has led to zero noobs

    • @alexxxnder4982
      @alexxxnder4982 4 роки тому +61

      @@JiqzEdits I miss the days of absolutely spit shining Christmas noobs for 2 weeks straight or not having to turn down my music to sound whore the enemy team

    • @JiqzEdits
      @JiqzEdits 4 роки тому +14

      @@alexxxnder4982 Christmas noobs, after school noobs and weekend noobs eating my streaks because im starving them for kills

    • @alexxxnder4982
      @alexxxnder4982 4 роки тому +4

      @@JiqzEdits we all wish we knew when we where in the good ole days

  • @VAEClan
    @VAEClan 4 роки тому +61

    'Penalize for being good at the game sucks.'
    Thats exactly how I feel. Thx for saying that.

    • @BonAmputee
      @BonAmputee 4 роки тому

      Right?

    • @crabtreecameron
      @crabtreecameron 4 роки тому

      The thing is I’m just a little above average usually like a 1.5kd but that seems to always put me in games vs 2-3 kd players which can be a huge difference

    • @RealNzlord
      @RealNzlord 4 роки тому

      Obviously not good if you think beating casual players then when playing better cry like a bitch only way to get better is to play the best

    • @xLWxPhantom
      @xLWxPhantom 4 роки тому +1

      And that's why I haven't really played a new cod since bo3. Tried bo4 and it was meh. Every year they make new mechanics to help the bad players instead of influence people to get better. BO4 felt terrible because I hated dying because I wasn't using a saug or Maddox just because the other person was or I cant kill 2 people looking at me bcz they have so much health.

    • @fadah5591
      @fadah5591 4 роки тому

      @@xLWxPhantom I have a 3.50 I'd in bo3 it's probably my favorite cod of all time and there was no sbmm

  • @Lance-no5lp
    @Lance-no5lp 4 роки тому +155

    The ranked playlist with rewards would be badass

    • @IndiusFilms
      @IndiusFilms 4 роки тому +11

      This is facts, ive never bothered with ranked play but if there was an incentive like titles or emblems id be up for it

    • @vain9137
      @vain9137 4 роки тому

      nah I would'nt like that tbh it would pull alot of casual players to competitve and I'd get easy lobbies which i would not like

    • @juanfuentes151
      @juanfuentes151 4 роки тому

      @@vain9137 exactly

    • @aesie1229
      @aesie1229 4 роки тому

      Vain _ that’s why there would be a ELO system the better you are the higher rank you are

    • @vain9137
      @vain9137 4 роки тому

      aesie Y E S I would love to have an incredibly fucking strict SBMM for a CDL/competitive playlist

  • @tarik-po6gt
    @tarik-po6gt 3 роки тому +62

    imagine paying 60 Dollars to getting fucked up every quick play round

  • @JXKEGG
    @JXKEGG 4 роки тому +151

    "Hold this Choppy Gunny" put it on a shirt.

    • @asinideful
      @asinideful 4 роки тому +7

      I would buy it and wear it. Because it is such a good line.

    • @tiick__3827
      @tiick__3827 4 роки тому

      That’s amazing! That or Mr Choppy Gunny

    • @mrfeelgood992
      @mrfeelgood992 4 роки тому +1

      Phahaha please do that^^^^ people would buy

    • @jasonchou1407
      @jasonchou1407 4 роки тому +1

      Lmao he needs an apparel line

  • @-u_just_2604
    @-u_just_2604 4 роки тому +211

    Why it needs to change: in the alpha I went 34 and 7 one game, and the very next game got put in an insane lobby with a couple pros/ams and got like 5 kills

    • @justincha4973
      @justincha4973 4 роки тому +13

      It seem to me you had a good game and a bad game. That always been cod.

    • @kevincorroyer101
      @kevincorroyer101 4 роки тому +2

      Weird i always got noob lobbies on the alpha . I aint that good and we always won and i was always 1st or 2nd

    • @-u_just_2604
      @-u_just_2604 4 роки тому +2

      TheTrueSuperSaiyan that was me til the last day, then I just had to stop, I’m pretty sure I had a 2 kd and like 3 win rate, but the last 24 hours it was the complete opposite

    • @kevincorroyer101
      @kevincorroyer101 4 роки тому +1

      @@-u_just_2604 yep my kd was also atleast 2.0 . But it didnt change for me. The couple of times i didnt have 2kd was because my son was crying and i had to take care of him so i was just standing there🤣

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому +9

      @@justincha4973 you don't go 34-7 and then just drop 5 kills the very next game lmao... This comment is super ignorant

  • @Royalnfly
    @Royalnfly 4 роки тому +319

    Bro seth actually had to apologize for saying “hold this choppa gunny”. Thats crazy

  • @strahfe
    @strahfe 3 роки тому +34

    Here I am watching this video for the second time because I’m fed up of SBMM on Warzone. :/

    • @grugamersriseup7299
      @grugamersriseup7299 3 роки тому

      Never felt samer

    • @whezia5805
      @whezia5805 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @capolean2902
      @capolean2902 3 роки тому

      saming here

    • @Sweet_lu_
      @Sweet_lu_ 3 роки тому

      Yeah same with apex too

    • @chrislowe3339
      @chrislowe3339 3 роки тому

      Jus got off a game of rebirth and came back to this video, literally sweatiest matches I've ever played and jus thought I was bad or som🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @drew9951
    @drew9951 4 роки тому +273

    The fact that there’s literally no ranked play is actually mind numbing man.... like cmon

    • @Zaratium
      @Zaratium 4 роки тому +1

      league play formula would be perfect

    • @wgmrbigboi
      @wgmrbigboi 4 роки тому +4

      Take literally out of the sentence please. Don’t speak like a basic Becky

    • @ashtonvoss6567
      @ashtonvoss6567 4 роки тому +17

      Walter Griffeth who shit in ur coffee this morning? lol

    • @Tyler-ev3gk
      @Tyler-ev3gk 4 роки тому +1

      @@wgmrbigboi literally same

    • @HP-rz7ew
      @HP-rz7ew 4 роки тому

      Have they confirmed there will be no ranked play in BOCW? Did I miss something?

  • @ImTeebo
    @ImTeebo 4 роки тому +578

    Completely agree with this, honestly can’t see why u wouldn’t

    • @asinideful
      @asinideful 4 роки тому +26

      I only disagree with his apology for Twitter. I think it was well worded for a clean troll and a very good point to back it up all in short statements that should be great in Twitter. This generation just needs to grow up and he doesn't need to apologize IMO.

    • @brandonellisFL
      @brandonellisFL 4 роки тому +2

      @@asinideful twitter is full of cry babies and it won't change let's be honest

    • @thedalton7265
      @thedalton7265 4 роки тому

      Cuase they make the most money from it. Sad but facts!!!!!

    • @asinideful
      @asinideful 4 роки тому

      @@brandonellisFL So sad but so true

    • @PRINCE4ACE
      @PRINCE4ACE 4 роки тому

      I disagree with it being on at all be cause even if your in the bottom 30% if you drop 20-30 kills they’re going to move you up

  • @chickenroaster7508
    @chickenroaster7508 4 роки тому +28

    My problem is that it just gets boring so fast if every match feels the same. I liked when you never knew the outcome of a match. And in the past it was actually always kind of special if you got mixed in with really good, better players. You actually had a reason to sweat then, because it just happened occasionally

    • @JingMitsuyamaCH
      @JingMitsuyamaCH 4 роки тому +1

      This right here! It's so predictable with SBMM. You start off down by like 50 in HP and look to see you are the only one on the team doing well while the opponents have like 3-4 dudes playing. So people just throw it ridiculous

    • @Sbaker566
      @Sbaker566 11 місяців тому

      Nailed it... in the old days it was an honor to get wrecked by pros or even just super sweats because you just didn't see it that often. Now if you're top 10-20% every game you play is gonna be a miserable sweat fest.

  • @chootybeeks1088
    @chootybeeks1088 4 роки тому +396

    Devs putting in SBMM is honestly just a slap in the face, they know we hate it

    • @ZaveAres
      @ZaveAres 4 роки тому +46

      They do it for the noobs because they're the ones spending cod points

    • @kogzombie1093
      @kogzombie1093 3 роки тому +9

      It was actually Activision who implemented it to cod

    • @thatdamncrow9197
      @thatdamncrow9197 3 роки тому +3

      @@kogzombie1093 sbmm is in every cod thats online it was just far stricter

    • @kogzombie1093
      @kogzombie1093 3 роки тому +1

      @@thatdamncrow9197 how do you know that

    • @ZaveAres
      @ZaveAres 3 роки тому

      @@thatdamncrow9197 No. It was implemented in 2012.

  • @BigMac_7406
    @BigMac_7406 4 роки тому +101

    I’m really happy prominent players in the community r speaking up so the devs listen because I can’t stand another year of the disaster that was MW matchmaking. From the past Treyarch has been muuuuch better at matchmaking and are more fun imo. Also I’ve never noticed sbmm until MW last year every other COD has been fine especially Treyarch CODs which r generally great! Also you couldn’t have said it better Scump I feel penalized for being good at the game... I really felt that

    • @wolfzzcodgaming1331
      @wolfzzcodgaming1331 4 роки тому +1

      Yea soo true never had a problem till mw2019

    • @jerrybarry3148
      @jerrybarry3148 4 роки тому +2

      i absolutely hated matchmaking in BO4. I'm not even that great, but there would be sessions where i would have to backpack a team every since match. But at least BO4 kept the lobbies together instead of breaking them up every game like in MW.

  • @SuccessGamingChannel
    @SuccessGamingChannel 4 роки тому +33

    No way there were sbmm this strong in other cods. You gave valid points that alot of us are thanking you for making because you have a bigger voice than us. The majority of us agree 100 percent. Make your voice heard!

    • @entreri76x
      @entreri76x 4 роки тому +3

      Because the older cods prioritized connection first and that’s how it should be. It doesn’t do any good to put you in a lobby with a high ping to match you with people of equal skill . Makes the experience , miserable.. For example it back in black ops two, I live in Virginia and was always playing against people in my state and surrounding states like Maryland and North Carolina.. Now they match me up against people on the West Coast which is , idiotic..

  • @Spryze
    @Spryze 4 роки тому +203

    Thank you for pointing this out, that smash player, leffen is so fkn stupid. And "hold this choppy gunny" is not toxic at all, it was obviously a joke. To people who got offended, they are literally so soft. It makes me mad to think that you actually got in some trouble for an obvious joke, but dont worry, you and many others agree. And it's kinda hard to believe that some people think pros go to casual to "sweat", but if i was in your position, i would literally just play pubs for challenges or to chill. Imo SBMM should not be in pubs or at least not as strict as it is rn, and we should have a ranked playlist coming out. But yeah, how were your guy's experience with SBMM in the alpha?

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому +5

      Honestly I gotta use that line, it was hilarious lmao

    • @justincha4973
      @justincha4973 4 роки тому

      Lolol

    • @gomptv4392
      @gomptv4392 4 роки тому +5

      horrible man, sbmm just sucks

    • @ankimakia4086
      @ankimakia4086 4 роки тому

      @@gomptv4392 dont worry, SBMM wont affect on you

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому +3

      Literally on Day 2 I noticed it immediately... I dropped ah Choppy Gunny in most of my games, but man when I mean SBMM hit like a TRUCK lmao... The most I would touch is a Attack Helicopter and maybe ah Choppy Gunny spread out
      If KD was a thing I'd have at least around ah 1.7-2.0, I only had 3 negative games and those were sweaty games (not to say my positive games weren't sweaty) outta the entire alpha and I played at least 30-40 games

  • @chimichanga6089
    @chimichanga6089 3 роки тому +78

    Got off a 10 hr shift just wanted to unwind and relax but I can’t even have fun with this game luckily it has zombies.

  • @GaeFootballClub
    @GaeFootballClub 4 роки тому +37

    my best cod memories were coming home from school and hoping on ranked bo2 with the boys trying to get diamond, i want that back bro

    • @radicalkills123
      @radicalkills123 4 роки тому +3

      Trying to get diamond? You mean master lol this ain't LoL bud

    • @wappa3278
      @wappa3278 4 роки тому

      radicalkills diamond camo?

    • @radicalkills123
      @radicalkills123 4 роки тому +2

      @@wappa3278 you don't grind diamond camos in league play

    • @wappa3278
      @wappa3278 4 роки тому

      radicalkills I’m confused now

    • @JamesCarter1888_
      @JamesCarter1888_ 4 роки тому +3

      @@wappa3278 it’s bo2 league play he’s talking about you get different divisions like gold, platinum and master etc

  • @johnnym5833
    @johnnym5833 4 роки тому +372

    Dont apologize thats the problem with this generation they soft asf and get their feelings hurt over something like this

    • @coleton65
      @coleton65 4 роки тому +17

      Facts brother soft as hell

    • @xxraptorxx8180
      @xxraptorxx8180 4 роки тому +7

      I know pure snowflakes

    • @FearFang1000
      @FearFang1000 4 роки тому +7

      Hector prob made him lol but fr tho what kind of pussies actually get hurt over this 😂😂 shit don’t even make sense

    • @chiiefff
      @chiiefff 4 роки тому +7

      tweet wasnt even offensive 😂

    • @ravegaming3142
      @ravegaming3142 4 роки тому +5

      Completely understand bro I can't believe he has to apologize for that so stupid if they're that hurt about being called the s*** at the game practice lol

  • @alexisflores1593
    @alexisflores1593 4 роки тому +298

    *Everyone and their mother want SBMM gone*
    Activision: "Y'all hear something?"

    • @trimotionmedia5487
      @trimotionmedia5487 4 роки тому +3

      Remember that this “Everyone,” are all the people in the comment sections who are into cod and are gonna be good. The guys opinions you’re not seeing aren’t on YT and Twitter and Instagram comment sections.
      But yeah, fine tune SBMM and include Ranked

    • @Mannydude96
      @Mannydude96 4 роки тому

      I'm fine with the SBMM in the alpha. Whining about it is not the same as asking for ranked play

    • @pjw4125
      @pjw4125 4 роки тому +1

      @@trimotionmedia5487 I've seen a lot of people on UA-cam and Twitter saying they like SBMM. IMO these people are below 1 kd players and are getting easy lobbies regardless so they don't see the problem.

    • @MikeyOnetwofour
      @MikeyOnetwofour 4 роки тому +1

      Also everyone and their mother: “we and prestiging back”
      Activision: someone leave a window open?

    • @kait2972
      @kait2972 4 роки тому

      @@pjw4125 why would you want to play against players that are 10x worse or better than you?

  • @cerrupT
    @cerrupT 4 роки тому +26

    Agreed. I have a 2.25KD on ever cod just about, but this years SBMM was insane on MW.

    • @vToneehh
      @vToneehh 3 роки тому +1

      Nice flex on a comment section but in reality you’re trash. Add me: Methodz
      Let’s see that 2.0 KD BOY

    • @billygames7107
      @billygames7107 3 роки тому

      @@vToneehh you don’t wanna join his lobbies I promise.

    • @vToneehh
      @vToneehh 3 роки тому

      @@billygames7107 Who the fook r u?

    • @billygames7107
      @billygames7107 3 роки тому +1

      @@vToneehh someone who hates SBMM.., why?

  • @MelonxJuice
    @MelonxJuice 4 роки тому +453

    What pisses me off is that they can tune it back if they want to and they don’t lol it’s literally just a switch and an update. They just don’t listen and that’s why all their games have sucked lately

    • @kali888
      @kali888 3 роки тому +25

      it's because it makes them too much money

    • @stevencastellon9470
      @stevencastellon9470 3 роки тому +47

      It makes them money because it is more player friendly.
      until you get good

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 роки тому +35

      I expect it’s activisions decision. The reason they put in sbmm is because it keeps noobs happy, so noobs buy cod points

    • @edgardop.3498
      @edgardop.3498 3 роки тому +4

      @@frog2444 and when those noobs start getting better games they all of a sudden get shit on and it sucks because it’s hard to level up

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 роки тому +26

      @@edgardop.3498 yeah. I think having a protected bracket for people with a kd lower than .05 or something like that would be a good idea. That protects total beginners and handicapped people. But after that I don’t think they need to be protected anymore

  • @caleb5534
    @caleb5534 4 роки тому +61

    There was absolutely 0 chance SBMM was implemented at even a fraction of the level it is currently in the Cod4 - BLOPS2 era

    • @thealeksanderh
      @thealeksanderh 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah them saying SBMM was in all CODs is just clever wording to misdirect people.
      Its technically correct, but it does not mention to what extent and its intantly obvious that it was way weaker in previous titles.
      Today, they have bigger data pools, more players and more variables to go on.
      This makes it way stronger now than what it was.

    • @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch
      @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch 4 роки тому +3

      @@thealeksanderh
      its all linguistic propaganda.
      They are lying to you by omitting pertinent information. Lie by omission essentially. They are technically telling the truth, but for practical reasons they are clearly being deceptive.
      Keep these political tactics out of my video games.

    • @thealeksanderh
      @thealeksanderh 4 роки тому

      Dr. Howie Feltersnatch Exactly

    • @CinamaticHitman
      @CinamaticHitman 4 роки тому

      The gold old day

    • @NhBleker
      @NhBleker 4 роки тому

      SBMM didn’t exist back then

  • @chaloopabatman
    @chaloopabatman 4 роки тому +328

    Definitely don’t remember sbmm in black ops 2 at all. Modern warfare 2019 was absolutely through the roof. Literally took the fun out.

    • @nelthon9005
      @nelthon9005 4 роки тому +23

      so damn true. like i consider myself to be a pretty decent player but FUCK there are so many sweats in that game for no damn reason

    • @nevercommitsuicide
      @nevercommitsuicide 3 роки тому +25

      BO2 definitly had SBMM it was very very soft tho. It was perfect imo because people with 2.5k/d didnt get total noobs as enemies and noobs didnt get pros as enemies BUT it always was balanced. You had +/- 15% of your skill players in lobbies and that was perfect. Now in MW2019 its probably +/- 1% of your skill or maybe even less

    • @nelthon9005
      @nelthon9005 3 роки тому +2

      @ayyy lmao what’s yo kd

    • @gmaergabe7313
      @gmaergabe7313 3 роки тому +2

      @@nelthon9005 I can't speak for him but mine is about 1.5 overall according to barracks. Though I don't actually give a shit about these stats as they don't mean anything, and are not representative of your skill as a player. I think it would be good to have a casual playlist and a ranked playlist to appeal both ends, and bam, problem solved. SBMM is essential for competitive play and integrity, but not good for casual relaxation.

    • @nelthon9005
      @nelthon9005 3 роки тому

      @@gmaergabe7313 that’s the ENTIRE purpose of the kd ?? to show your kill death ratio?

  • @B1GDaddyFatStax
    @B1GDaddyFatStax 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for addressing this and being a voice for the community.
    SBMM literally just limits you to trading kills and wins/losses. Then, the "better" you get you just get thrown into even sweatier lobbies. It just gets worse.
    Someone already mentioned this in the comments, but it's so true. They yell, "get gud", then you do, and keep getting thicker SBMM.
    After it's all over, does anyone legitimately feel like their place in the ranks is really compared to the rest of the world? Or do you only feel like you're being compared to the people you just played against? Kinda makes you feel like you're in a bubble, doesn't it?
    I mean, I understand SBMM. It makes sense when you compare it to sporting tournaments etc. Defeat one person then compete with the next that also faced the same level of adversaries previous to you. Rinse and repeat until you win the championship.
    But, it's a game. Not all of us are in it to win the championship. We just want to have fun. This isn't a livelihood for most of us. We work regular jobs and don't wanna sweat more after a long day. You hit the nail on the head there.

  • @jaiwright6632
    @jaiwright6632 4 роки тому +226

    Makes me sad that an OG has to come out and apologise like this...

    • @patrickdonovan2323
      @patrickdonovan2323 3 роки тому

      didnt even say anything as offensive people are just soft.

  • @chancemadeit
    @chancemadeit 4 роки тому +174

    No need to apologize to the bums, they should learn to toughen up. Life isn’t handed to you and the game shouldn’t be any different. Yeah it’s fun to kick back and poop on people but it’s more fun learning how to get better and seeing that progress show. No one wants to sweat 24/7 though, that’s even less fun that pubstomping

    • @germanrojas1987
      @germanrojas1987 4 роки тому +20

      Toughen up for a video game ? Get a life bro.

    • @cooliusmaximus5802
      @cooliusmaximus5802 4 роки тому +23

      @@germanrojas1987 some random online hurt your feelings about your video games? Get a life, bro.

    • @patrickhiphop3531
      @patrickhiphop3531 4 роки тому +4

      vast majority of players couldnt give a shit less about getting better. This is for us. Have fun play against your level of players and we will do the same.

    • @patrickhiphop3531
      @patrickhiphop3531 4 роки тому

      @Miguel Santos yeah because i dont care about being an mlg gamer sweat lord, play against others with equal talent is better. Always has, always will.

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому +6

      @@patrickhiphop3531 lmao imagine playing a game frequently, being bad at it and NOT striving to get better
      I'm sorry but if you play a game to NOT improve/have fun, then idk what to tell you buddy... I'm almost certain most bad players would like to actually improve and be good

  • @R0manator
    @R0manator 4 роки тому +84

    Ultimately the world has changed to ‘everyone’s a winner’ which means dragging those who are ahead back down and pushing forward those who are behind. It’s sad that it’s now starting to affect the games we love as well 🥺

    • @hargydon
      @hargydon 4 роки тому +12

      Society is losing its mind.
      I thought this new wave of “progressives” was just the fad it’s always been but it’s infiltrating every instance of entertainment & beyond. It’s disgusting.
      Stuff like this needs to be vocalised, especially by people like Scump, so props to him, he’s doing God’s work, get rid of this insanity.
      If you want to win, you have to get better - THAT’S LIFE. We all did it, why shouldn’t you?

    • @brandonmajor9523
      @brandonmajor9523 4 роки тому

      What a weird way of looking at things

    • @itsKyrex
      @itsKyrex 4 роки тому +1

      its cuz casuals are the best way to more money

    • @Albanianator
      @Albanianator 4 роки тому +4

      FIFA makes it so the AI skill is not the same level for both players. This way they can keep the noobs from losing motivation and continuing to play the game. With COD it wouldn't surprise me that even without SBMM in the game they could as easily reduce your aim assist and give the newer players stronger aim assist. Aim assist is a crutch I wish they never introduced it, instead they should of designed better analog sticks.

    • @hesher237
      @hesher237 4 роки тому +1

      That makes no sense. SBMM is the opposite of everyone’s a winner, it places you with people at your skill? If anything if you want to get rid of SBMM then you want to own noobs and not play against people your level.

  • @brandona9326
    @brandona9326 3 роки тому +98

    I don't get it. Bo3 had no sbmm and I've never talked to someone who didnt love that game. Horrible and insane players. Sbmm 100% ruins any game unless it's a ranked play list.

    • @thatdamncrow9197
      @thatdamncrow9197 3 роки тому +1

      Bo3 had sbmm every cod did

    • @brandona9326
      @brandona9326 3 роки тому +12

      @@thatdamncrow9197 Only in a ranked list. I play Bo3 still, yesterday me a 2.07 matched with a 1.9 against 6 people who were under 1.0.
      It did not have sbmm in regular non ranked playlists.

    • @thatdamncrow9197
      @thatdamncrow9197 3 роки тому

      @@brandona9326 do you even know what sbmm is because its not based on your kd its based on your accuracy kills deaths score etc basically every raw stat

    • @brandona9326
      @brandona9326 3 роки тому +9

      @@thatdamncrow9197 LOL you have no logic. Someone with a higher kd will have better accuracy and really better stats in general.
      Just to add, I'm lvl 102, he was 468 and the other team had no one over 5th prestige. You don't know what you're talking about. At all

    • @brandona9326
      @brandona9326 3 роки тому +1

      @@thatdamncrow9197 oh and he and I both had the highest SPM in the lobby. SBMM did not exist unless it was ranked play in Bo3

  • @skwirlman96
    @skwirlman96 4 роки тому +115

    B02 League play was amazing. Everyone thought so. Why cant they bring it back.

    • @clayzen-
      @clayzen- 4 роки тому +1

      Nowadays randoms and bots crying about getting clapped too hard

    • @sander1342
      @sander1342 4 роки тому +5

      That shit was sooo much fun. If i wanted to really challenge myself i'd just play league play and if i just wanted to have a good time casually i'd hop on pubs. The perfect balance

    • @adamfirth3082
      @adamfirth3082 4 роки тому

      ww2 ranked play was a better system, its just the game was shit

    • @Dillon6479
      @Dillon6479 4 роки тому

      BO4 league play was great

  • @jergocraazy6341
    @jergocraazy6341 4 роки тому +35

    Bo2 ranked play, exactly how it was before would be amazing and almost feel refreshing n a sense. Miss it and a lot of player probably miss it also

  • @patrickharnedy2915
    @patrickharnedy2915 4 роки тому +77

    It’s like they want to penalize the people who are the best at and play the game the most. At least they’re taking feedback from the pros unlike last year

    • @Drakshl
      @Drakshl 4 роки тому

      I don't see why putting you in a competitive game is punishing. If I'm gona put time in and play seriously then I want to be given realtivly fair matches. Maybe it's just that I come from primarily games like dota with a little CS, where it's expected that we will play against and with teammates of similar skill.

    • @habibislam1904
      @habibislam1904 4 роки тому +1

      @@Drakshl But those games have a rank that shows what skill level you are at and CS has a casual mode where you can match with anyone and just fuck around and chill. CoD devs have straight up refused to implement a ranked mode for the past year. LoL and CS are built around the competitive scene. The IW devs claimed competitive ruined the game.

    • @rblrickster1717
      @rblrickster1717 4 роки тому +2

      @@Drakshl We want sbmm tuned back in pubs because we don't wanna sweat the entire time. We don't want to use the meta weapons. We wanna try new weapons/equipment/perks etc... We wanna play with our IRL friends so they have fun.

    • @BonAmputee
      @BonAmputee 4 роки тому +1

      Who said the devs were listening to people? Can you show me proof please?

    • @tomsayer5921
      @tomsayer5921 4 роки тому

      RBL Rickster exactly! It’s like you try and not use a meta weapon in mw next thing you know you have to use it because the whole team you’re playing against are using meta

  • @joenescio1077
    @joenescio1077 3 роки тому +13

    Just do what BO2 did!!!!!!! The casual playlist which everybody can play, then the league playlist. That is why BO2 is considered one of, if not, the best COD ever

  • @Sequence06
    @Sequence06 4 роки тому +186

    First: Don't apologize with snowflakes
    Second: no I do not believe that older black ops had Skill Based matchmaking at all, I think devs are just talking BS and want to keep the SBMM on the roof so that the majority of player base, who are hot garbage, stay in their happy comfort zone and "enjoy" game play, while us the sweaty nerds are forced to play games like it was CDL Playoffs against Thanos

    • @NippleMyster
      @NippleMyster 4 роки тому +1

      Get better and you won’t struggle so much then

    • @ZurkeyTurkey
      @ZurkeyTurkey 4 роки тому +5

      There is absolutely no way blops 2 or 3 had sbmm, I could see some type of connection based match making but the sheer amount of videos seth released on both those games compared to the last 2 games just prove that 100% there was nothing like mw and cw

    • @oliverforrest998
      @oliverforrest998 4 роки тому +12

      Can’t tell you how many bots I shot in bo2 custom games because I would get shit on almost every game yet here I am still playing cod. New players won’t know the feeling of actually getting hyped for goin on a 5 streak cause of SBMM there’s no way of actually knowing if ur improving cause every lobby feels the same. There was definitely no sbmm in bo2 period.

    • @lorevaga822
      @lorevaga822 4 роки тому +6

      @@NippleMyster that doesnt make sense at all. You're watching a video of one of the best cod player in the world. He is complaining. You see where I'm getting at?

    • @hbk7574
      @hbk7574 4 роки тому +3

      ZurkeyTurkey by skill based they probably meant team balancing which were in those games and much better than SBMM

  • @yungwag6498
    @yungwag6498 4 роки тому +122

    Everyone’s best game on the alpha was their second game. Facts.

    • @ronnymarcano1805
      @ronnymarcano1805 4 роки тому +14

      Mine was the first. Then I got my ass wiped

    • @maikhostmann6048
      @maikhostmann6048 4 роки тому +3

      For real
      Alter 5 Games ist was like a bit sweety Lobby
      After 10 Games it was like a hard sweaty scrim match every Time Back to Back, unbelivable and discusting.
      Just put ranged in and done. Nowbody cares about us as we was Noobs, they have play Ping Pong with us and it wasnd't a Problem for us. We have practis all day long all day night to get better. Just to can do the same, but yeah look what those crapheads do to our Passion "Call of Duty".
      #Treyarch #Activison
      READ, NOTICE, and get this shit out of the Game. Prove that the Comuntiy can still have the last hope "Treyarch".
      Other ways, it will be a Game thats only play Noobs forward. When this is what U want, Good Job Mate U done the right thing, if its Not "think about it"!

    • @Yewis22
      @Yewis22 4 роки тому +3

      Facts lmao I thought I was a god my first two games. Then got shit on and stopped playing 🤣

    • @ronnymarcano1805
      @ronnymarcano1805 4 роки тому +1

      Jeffrey Morales me too and I made me rage real bad

    • @estebanrodriguez8374
      @estebanrodriguez8374 4 роки тому +2

      My first game I had a 3.14 ratio (22-7) after that I got my ass WHOOPED and it wasn’t even fun

  • @Dgusting
    @Dgusting 4 роки тому +120

    Sbmm completely ruins the organic experience of playing cod. Someone like me who is slightly above average(1.5-2.0kd) is punished for not being a bot. It's ridiculous. Like you said about going for camos, that's true. I couldn't even explore or try different weapons because I have 6 people with 74us either flying at me constantly or guys posted up with xm4s like they're anchoring spawns in bo2 it's pathetic. There could be a boot camp playlist for newer players that would solve the super new people. Only people who haven't prestiged and are under a certain kd could play. That would be awesome. The organic experience of being matched with the best connection is what it should be. I could be matched against mixed skills, I could have a guy trolling with a riot shield, or have a pro in my lobby, who knows. I don't care to play people my skill, or even miles better. But ONLY going against people who are sweats is ridiculous. I mean you can just be a good player who is competent and not even sweating and BOOM you're punished because of it and now you HAVE to sweat because you won't even be able to play the game without cranking your headset up and being as aware as you can be. Catering to bad players hurts them too. I think that if I only ever went against people my skill would have lowered my ceiling. By playing against people better than me I learned how to problem solve and adapt. If I'm bad and only playing against other bad people I'm not getting any better. It's lame. Sbmm should only be in ranked. It should be by connection mainly and that way its an organic mix of skill that keeps it fresh and replayable. They want sbmm because they want as many players as possible. They already know most hardcore people are going to play regardless so they want to get the casuals to keep playing so they make more money and that's the bottom line. Quit screwing over your loyal fans who have played for a decade or more for kids who have been handed everything their whole lives. Same thing with their maps. These cluttered maps that gives people a hundred places to hide and crap is pathetic. Cod used to have simple 3 lane maps that had certain strategic things where you could get cover or post up and that's how it should be. It makes it more about your skill and positioning and less about oh there's 40 nooks and crannies to hide in so no way the guy I'm playing against can look for all these. Idk it's just sad. And if they really have to do this because of money hungry execs, just give us BO2 remastered with ranked and no sbmm and I would be happy for years to come. I've had to revert back to BO3 and other older CODs every year for the last 5 years because of theis crap. It's sad.
    I have high hopes for this game though. I just hope they don't screw it up because it has potential for sure.

    • @Eots91
      @Eots91 4 роки тому +4

      @Fa Mulan not necessarily we all started as bad players and bcuz we all went through the blender of skilled players we noticed what they were doing and adapted.
      I was dog shit in bo1 and as time went on I noticed my progression in bo2 and mw3 but it was bcuz I didn't want to be ass anymore that I learned what the top/ even decent players were doing and got better bciz of it

    • @maikhostmann6048
      @maikhostmann6048 4 роки тому +3

      @Fa Mulan u talking truely shit. And U know that im right.
      I was gettig destroyed in Bo1 for a hole yeah, AND IT WAS BE UNBELIVABLE MORE FUN THAN PLAYING THE LAST 2 YEARS, so Stop talking bullshit.

    • @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch
      @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch 4 роки тому

      @Fa Mulan
      Go play barbie on game pass I think that game is more your speed princess

    • @maikhostmann6048
      @maikhostmann6048 4 роки тому

      @Fa Mulan yeah but Not that much if u do it. Everybody how tell something else are still shit or miss the point from what we talking.
      We want to Save CoD, u don't Check that?
      Ur Comments are horrible for ever Passion Gamer.

    • @MakkaC_
      @MakkaC_ 4 роки тому +2

      100% this. I miss the mixed and random lobbies. Sometimes you got stomped, sometimes you did good. Sometimes you were dealing with some trolls, mr knifer, mr pistol pete... Now every lobby feels the same. People using the best weapons and playing like life will end if they dont get 3kd gameplay.
      When i was a noob, tbh i wouldnt mind to get stomped every other game. If someone in the lobby was really good, i was always thinking "wow dude, i want to be as good as you". Now when im better, i woiuld say a little above than average, rushing only, i get paired up with fucking campers who can shoot and have brains where to camp and where to watch - and my skill level rushers. Most of the lobbies just gets your bloodpressure up and after 3 games in public matches im done and i gotta go play older zombies just to get any fun out of playing cod.

  • @Captain_Kel
    @Captain_Kel 3 роки тому +28

    You cant puss out when vonderhaar confronts you about stuff like this man, stand your ground.

    • @jorjor500
      @jorjor500 3 роки тому +3

      Last time he did something like this, the CoD league fined him quite a nice chunk of money. That’s probably why he backpedaled so hard. Don’t wanna lose out on like 10 Grand

    • @Captain_Kel
      @Captain_Kel 3 роки тому +5

      @@jorjor500 well then he has to chose between money and dignity. You can’t just let another man disrespect you for a little money.

    • @jorjor500
      @jorjor500 3 роки тому +2

      You can if it makes your org look bad, and has the potential to get you dropped from your team. Some things are worth risking your career over, complaining about SBMM isn’t one of them.

    • @Captain_Kel
      @Captain_Kel 3 роки тому +7

      @@jorjor500 What? SBMM is egregious af and is definitely worth criticizing since it alienates the moderate-hardcore players of cod. And how does it make his org look bad? I don’t know why you think Activision can’t be criticized or why you think it’s a bad look to provide constructive criticism which is all he did. No one is excused from criticism and that includes Activision.

    • @jorjor500
      @jorjor500 3 роки тому +1

      You sure seem to be putting a lot of words in my mouth my guy. He was actively penalized by activision for doing something similar earlier, and risking punishment for something that could actively hurt your job in this instance for Scump isn’t worth it. Sorry you don’t have basic reading comprehension because the public education system failed you and thousands of others in your generation.

  • @SVTeternal
    @SVTeternal 4 роки тому +47

    Tune down sbmm to BO2 levels, Treyarch bringing that up means they were okay with the tuning in that game
    Add ranked playlist with incentives, I'll be playing it

  • @ecosse543
    @ecosse543 4 роки тому +18

    MW has just about broke me this year. The most frustrting CoD they have ever made. B03 was the last CoD i enjoyed playing. You cant just hop on to MW and have a bit of fun its just a grind every single game.

    • @VERSXCE
      @VERSXCE 4 роки тому +3

      Same bro. Started with mw3 and basically ended after 2 years bo3. All cods since then just weren't fun anymore. Either they were trash or sbmm fucked the game. Its actually so sad.

    • @a1kev
      @a1kev 4 роки тому

      Rezylana I hate how people don’t move around the map and rather just sit in vantage points the entire game. And if it isn’t that they’ll play follow the leader and when you kill one of them there’s 3 more behind the guy you just killed, ready to jump you.

  • @Mo-vg9vt
    @Mo-vg9vt 4 роки тому +140

    They should split it to two separate modes, “ranked games” and “casual unranked games”

    • @RangerColinLZ
      @RangerColinLZ 4 роки тому +2

      Lets just hope they don't go the rainbow six route and give both playlists ELO/MMR and one just displays it for you.
      In R6S you can accurately predict where you are on the slider you don't see in casual. It's annoying

    • @legostromtrooper1994
      @legostromtrooper1994 4 роки тому

      actually it should be three, the bootcamp mode, the casual playlist, and the ranked

    • @kylewittman8785
      @kylewittman8785 4 роки тому

      ranked & social playlists. literally been around since Halo 2 in 2004 lol.

    • @DeltaPrime95
      @DeltaPrime95 4 роки тому

      ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, THANK YOU, ITS THE SIMPLEST THING EVER.. i have no idea why anyone would even be opposed to this

    • @hzd1164
      @hzd1164 4 роки тому

      @@RangerColinLZ thats not true im afraid, im high plat 3 in ranked, and in unranked and casual i placed with and against all ranks, not just ones around my rank.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 3 роки тому +12

    What BO2 did was prefer connection over SBMM. It didn't have dedicated servers so it would just try to match up people very closely in the same area which means that there was a smaller pool of players to match up against so less of a chance to get other really good players in the lobby. I was in the top 1% of players at the time playing in masters division ranked and MLG game battle lobbies so casual matches in BO2 felt super easy because it was very rare that I'd get another top 1% player in those lobbies. Now with dedicated servers it's way more likely to connect you with top players since geographic area isn't as much of a concern. A top player from LA can join the same lobby as a top player from Dallas when before they wouldn't have been.

  • @duskswagaa5888
    @duskswagaa5888 4 роки тому +20

    So true, especially going for camos/challenges. Fifa did the same this year making challenges in skill-based matchmaking and it took the fun out of it.

  • @ricook5406
    @ricook5406 4 роки тому +82

    totally agree with u here, i hate when im going for something like a gold camo but have to play against 3 K/D players...

    • @naruii5160
      @naruii5160 4 роки тому +1

      you have a 3kd? damn

    • @AOSGAMINGNEWS
      @AOSGAMINGNEWS 4 роки тому

      I made a vid on my channel for how to remove it. I have a 10 KD on alt account with proof in the video,.

    • @qstn-mk.1403
      @qstn-mk.1403 3 роки тому

      @@naruii5160 i have a 0.98 KD but i get matched against people who have over 2.5 KD

  • @Alreadykn0w
    @Alreadykn0w 4 роки тому +22

    i legit get more try hard lobbys in pubs with sbmm in the last few cods then i did on bo2 leauge play..

    • @ZioComposite
      @ZioComposite 4 роки тому +2

      @@SG-vz1rz FUCKING THIS. All the casuals and chill people on my side with Team Gfuel all on the other is crazy AF. I gotta drop 30+ kills and die less than 5 times for us to MAYBE win lol. Too many times have I dropped 40+ kills with 1 death and still lose. I actually just laugh after the match when that happens while the enemy team even gives me props after the game lmao. I'm basically royally fucked with my stats and I don't blame the casuals on my team, it is not their fault the game does this -___- imgur.com/gallery/vzd3knx

    • @VisionPlayss
      @VisionPlayss 4 роки тому

      True Already know this is straight facts and sbmm in bo4 was no where near as bad as MW

    • @thomascarroll8847
      @thomascarroll8847 4 роки тому

      @@ZioComposite i mean according to those stats you win over 75% of your games so i dont think you losing 1 every 4 is royally fucked in terms of stats. that's pretty impressive stats to have a 75%+ wr with other 100k kills and like 3kd+ haha

    • @ZioComposite
      @ZioComposite 4 роки тому +2

      @@thomascarroll8847 Lol, yes I do win a lot of games. The issue is most often my whole team will be negative and I have to do everything for us to win.
      All I want is for the game to split teams evenly. Let's say I go on Team A, the next best player should go to Team B, then the next best to my team so on and so forth.

    • @thomascarroll8847
      @thomascarroll8847 4 роки тому +1

      @@ZioComposite i agree i was just commenting on your stats you gave lol.
      needs to be less of the sbmm so you have more balanced games and ranked play, easiest solution to the game to make it good.

  • @marshallwhite12
    @marshallwhite12 3 роки тому +18

    Treyarch dev: “BO2 had SBMM”
    Scump: in BO2 literally created “sweatbannin” as short term for complete and utter annihilation vs casual players

    • @cheesy9703
      @cheesy9703 3 роки тому

      Yeah I think the dev was lying straight up. There is no way there was sbmm in any game before ww2

    • @devingale6628
      @devingale6628 3 роки тому +1

      @Cheesy facts. Ww2 I agree is where the SBMM started

    • @qstn-mk.1403
      @qstn-mk.1403 3 роки тому

      @@cheesy9703 there was SBMM, but it was just so weak and subtle you hardly ever notice it.

  • @politiconinjago6638
    @politiconinjago6638 4 роки тому +41

    When you got shit on in BO2, it was typically when you ran against a squad. Otherwise it felt solid.

  • @LordKreem
    @LordKreem 4 роки тому +79

    Modern Warfare really was the final straw with SBMM. And it didn’t just penalise pro players with 3+ KD’s but literally everyone with a 1KD and over. I’ve been playing multiplayer COD for about 8 years, I love the series to death. And over the years I’ve always been decent, especially on Black Ops games, I’d consistently have about 1.5 KDs. Nothing amazing, but just decently good and knowledgeable, the games were fun throughout.
    But for Modern Warfare, as a public player the multiplayer aspect became torturous, last I checked I had a 1.09 K/D with the MW cycle almost over. I didn’t even bother with Damascus camo because in my eyes it wasn’t worth going double negative every game. Every lobby is a sweat fest bc there’s no variation in players. And I can’t use pretty much anything other than the main ARs and SMGs (with the best attachments) like the M4, Mp5, Kilo etc if I want to have a decent positive game with like +6-10 kills. Even then there’s some games I’ll still go well negative. Most games are something like 24-22. Activision what the fuck is fun for the players if everyone’s just breaking even on their KDs and having to go all in every fucking game. It’s so disheartening to know you’ve practically done nothing all year, just another mindless player dying as often as he’s killing. What a horrible toxic game MW was, and without Warzone the game would have been completely dead before half of its year cycle. Praying Treyarch get things right with Cold War.

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 роки тому +7

      Also it sucks for the REALLY noobs players cuz they have to deal with reverse boosters

    • @LordKreem
      @LordKreem 3 роки тому +1

      @@frog2444 Facts man so many issues with SBMM

    • @beri4138
      @beri4138 3 роки тому +2

      Fuck SBMM. It ruined Apex, it ruined Warzone, and it's here to ruin Cold War too. Just don't play games that have SBMM. Force developers to stop using this shitty system that sucks the fun out of every game.

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 роки тому

      @@beri4138 I think it’s activisions decision

    • @beri4138
      @beri4138 3 роки тому +2

      @@frog2444 I know so what. The only solution is to boycott the game.

  • @closedcasket4yu
    @closedcasket4yu 4 роки тому +58

    I will be reverse boosting in this game. I'm not dealing with SBMM 2 games in a row

    • @IZenoXI
      @IZenoXI 4 роки тому +13

      don't buy this game. Say "fuck you" to Activision and reject this sbmm bullshit.
      Maybe this makes them take it out or don't emplement it in future games.

    • @jjthejetplane97
      @jjthejetplane97 4 роки тому +1

      On me I’m reverse boosting 2😂

    • @closedcasket4yu
      @closedcasket4yu 4 роки тому +1

      @@jjthejetplane97 I can't believe how they're over doing it. They try to fix shit that isn't broke and break shit that was perfect

    • @Khan-ff7my
      @Khan-ff7my 4 роки тому +5

      They dont give a shit if you're going to reverse boost your going to buy the game so treyarch couldn't care less

    • @closedcasket4yu
      @closedcasket4yu 4 роки тому

      @@Khan-ff7my that's why it will work because apparently none of these developers give a fuck if people hack, cheat, or boost... So fuck it. It has nothing to do with the fact of them getting their money or not. I will always buy the game but I'm not playing it on their bull shit terms

  • @BenStro
    @BenStro 3 роки тому +10

    I will say black ops 2 is my favorite cod to this day. I think there was sbmm, but it was hardly noticeable. Your lobbies could consist of 4 max prestiges, but also 7 level 17 players. It was all over.

  • @Fallbob
    @Fallbob 4 роки тому +8

    Black Ops 1 with zero SBMM and host powers feels like a life time ago! You can't even see the connection bars anymore.

  • @Thecrazygamers2000
    @Thecrazygamers2000 4 роки тому +13

    Thank you for speaking on this. It upsets me that we have a participation trophy as a matchmaking system. In 2020 the most fun you can have on an fps is to be bad at the fps...... In 2020 you cant play with your bad friends without them having the worst time imaginable...... In 2020 why even have 30 guns if SBMM forces you to use the 2 meta ones to not die over and over. In 2020 you get shit ping lobbies and or shadow banned for being too good. Ruined fortnite, ruined Apex Legends, ruined Modernwarfare (Lit could have been the best cod game of all time besides SBMM imo) and has the potential to ruin Coldwar (im not buying if its in anyway tbh).

    • @DafWilliams1
      @DafWilliams1 4 роки тому

      Ruined sports games too, but casuals bring in the money so keep them happy

    • @tuckerhurt122
      @tuckerhurt122 4 роки тому +2

      Modern Warfare was just infinity ward telling us good players to go fuck ourselves. Literally the complete opposite of what u would want a cod game to be fundamentally. Great way of explaining this issue btw

    • @Thecrazygamers2000
      @Thecrazygamers2000 4 роки тому +1

      @@DafWilliams1 damn they even have it in sports games too wtf man

    • @Thecrazygamers2000
      @Thecrazygamers2000 4 роки тому

      @@tuckerhurt122 Ino man. It sucks because MW had the best sound, the best graphics and the best animations. Looking at Coldwar it looks like a downgrade rn. But its potential was ruined by SBMM. Also other design decisions catering towards casuals like 725, akimbo pistols, doors etc

    • @juanito7917
      @juanito7917 4 роки тому

      You lost ALL CREDIBILTY when u called MW the "best cod of all time" lol
      Theres the door...

  • @UserName-vv1ws
    @UserName-vv1ws 4 роки тому +13

    Dude that tweet was hilarious and the reverse boosting video had me dying man. I’m actually surprised people got upset

  • @FollowerOfChrist144
    @FollowerOfChrist144 2 роки тому +2

    “If you don’t like it get better.”
    THATS THE PROBLEM I DID GET BETTER. IT PUNISHED ME. 😂

  • @muzictimewithcrowe
    @muzictimewithcrowe 4 роки тому +37

    Thanks for being so honest man I'm that guy coming home from work and drinking beers trust me I don't want to play you either 😂

  • @allenhudson5256
    @allenhudson5256 4 роки тому +29

    I feel you I’m a average player but my friends are sweats but in mw I can’t even play with them due to sbmm because I just get shit on the whole time

    • @jackietang3789
      @jackietang3789 4 роки тому

      Yeah, I'm not the greatest Call of Duty player of all time nor am I good yet even I can say as an fellow average player that the SBMM is ridiculous in Modern Warfare 2019. Every match is like the finals in Call of Duty Championship with more than 100 grand on the line

    • @jasonbrusch5491
      @jasonbrusch5491 4 роки тому

      then get good, none of those guys were born playing cod good the got shitted on too when the first started it takes practice to be a good player

    • @dragondude8235
      @dragondude8235 4 роки тому

      True I’ve been playing cod since the beginning and the last time I checked sbmm was not this strong and dangerous

    • @certifiedcat6435
      @certifiedcat6435 4 роки тому +3

      @@jasonbrusch5491 not everyone doesnt have a life and time to spend grinding a game thats meant to have fun on.

    • @VidaSubliminal
      @VidaSubliminal 4 роки тому

      Yeah my squad and me have an insane stats but is a problem. I feel playing CDL all the time, every game we are in we won or loss by 3 or 2 points. We sweat our balls very very hard, and sometimes just wanted to relax from warzone. Its trash this shit.

  • @garykennedy5322
    @garykennedy5322 4 роки тому +11

    Real talk, back in CoD4(MW), I was new to the game and I got stomped. But over the next few games/years, I progressed. If a lobby was tuff, I gave it a few rounds. If I couldn’t keep up, I switched lobbies. At the end of the day, it’s an online game and my opinion is connection should be first priority..

  • @guyfisher6574
    @guyfisher6574 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for saying this. Anyone that has friends with even a margin of skill difference knows how badly SBMM impacts the experience. Many of my friends refuse to play together because two of us have above a 2KD. It’s sad

  • @Accupace
    @Accupace 4 роки тому +79

    SBMM HAS to go... It's such a drag to be so good at games and be PUNISHED for it lmao

    • @Nick-bh1fy
      @Nick-bh1fy 4 роки тому

      Preach brother

    • @dylanhoen7223
      @dylanhoen7223 4 роки тому +2

      or maybe create a ranked playlist

    • @Accupace
      @Accupace 4 роки тому

      @@dylanhoen7223 I'm not opposed to this at all

    • @dylanhoen7223
      @dylanhoen7223 4 роки тому +4

      @@Accupace ahhh fuck tho its to much work to copy paste the coding from bo2 leauge play create new division names and call it a day

    • @Phenriel31
      @Phenriel31 4 роки тому +1

      Are you really good if you're good VS the noobies? Don't get things mixed up.

  • @BLINC606
    @BLINC606 4 роки тому +10

    AW and MW are the only released CODs with super strong SBMM. Games like WW2 or BO4 probably had it to a minimal degree but it still seemed more connection based with team balancing. AW and MW it was so obviously there. I didn’t get to play the Alpha.

  • @IIlicit
    @IIlicit 4 роки тому +26

    i had a roughly 2.8 KD in MW, but I went for Damascus. after I finished it went all the way down to 1.9. that was achieved 1 month after launch. it is still the same 1.9 kd 10 months later. i rarely pull a 2 KD by the end of the match now. i feel like ive gotten a lot worse at COD because i almost never go on any kind of tear. but its prob because im in some diamond ranked siege type lobbies or some shit.

    • @TheCshort01
      @TheCshort01 4 роки тому +11

      It's not you man, it's the SBMM. MW made me feel like I got worse too. Then I went back to B04 and stomped again.

    • @hargydon
      @hargydon 4 роки тому +5

      Casey yup, same.
      I missed BO4 when it was the current CoD & came back for MW - got absolutely sick of the TTK, slow tick rate servers & SBMM so I bought a copy of BO4 & the first night of playing I got a Nuclear laid back playing on my TV. I didn’t even know what guns were good or maps at all, it was just raw gun skill & no SBMM.
      On MW I have to be constantly cracked staring into my monitor moving 700mph around the map just to stay positive, why is my enjoyment less important than someone who’s just picked up CoD for the first time in their life, invested no previous money into the franchise & not worked on crafting their ability?
      Make it make sense.

    • @awake8663
      @awake8663 4 роки тому

      Feel this on so many levels

    • @tristandenver3920
      @tristandenver3920 4 роки тому

      Cap

    • @chooktin78
      @chooktin78 4 роки тому

      There just aren’t as many noobs to stomp these days.

  • @samblackford3955
    @samblackford3955 3 роки тому +4

    I’m not the biggest gamer when it comes to COD, especially Cold War, I’m not going ham in all games, but for someone who doesn’t have a crazy large amount of time to spend in grinding the game 6 hours plus a day, I believe that I cannot progress in camos for example just due to the fact that I have in my opinion just above average skill. So thank you Scump for bringing up this idea of a ranked system that will allow for those wanting to play hard most of the time and separating it with someone such as myself that wants to play the game slightly more casually and have a sense of accomplishment from playing the game for quite awhile. So once again thank you Scump for bringing out this video as if something is done about SBMM I will be eternally grateful. Cheers!

  • @jahsellin2129
    @jahsellin2129 4 роки тому +220

    The tweet wasn’t even offensive y’all soft asf😂

    • @Clayton178
      @Clayton178 3 роки тому +17

      They want SBMM to be ingame so they can be good and sweat every match, but cry when scump says hold this choppy? 😂

    • @jahsellin2129
      @jahsellin2129 3 роки тому +18

      Jackson Chandler all of a sudden they can’t handle getting fucked up by a pro player

    • @OhhTec
      @OhhTec 3 роки тому +1

      exactly my thought too l0l

    • @insinergy_DDD
      @insinergy_DDD 3 роки тому

      That’s this gen now a days

    • @StuSSMK
      @StuSSMK 3 роки тому +1

      @@insinergy_DDD Ok Boomer

  • @JSGolfer
    @JSGolfer 4 роки тому +16

    I’m a half decent casual I would say and when MW came out I literally couldn’t play it for the first 2 weeks because I was just getting wrecked every match none stop, 0 fun even with friends, if Cold War is similar then I ain’t even buying it, black ops 3 was for me the last good cod in a while

  • @falseprophet8314
    @falseprophet8314 4 роки тому +82

    I agree with everything you said Scump. No one is trying to wash bottom 30%ers, but literally NO ONE is trying to sweat every time they hop on to play. It’s so frustrating to want to sit back and relax a little when I’m getting destroyed by ak47u’s everywhere I turn. Then to avoid going negative I have to pull out my own try hard class and then the game just lost its fun.
    Forcing any type of player to consistently play at a level that is their own is draining. If I’m an average player versing average players then it’s still going to be hard to play the game, but a chance to verse a bad player every now and then would at least make the game fun because I can win and feel good. I understand if the developers don’t want the average player to get destroyed by top 1% players all the time because they’ll lose their biggest audience. But that’s why they’re top 1%, they’ll get into a lobby with them 1% of the time! Instead of 100% of the time versing players that try just as hard, if not harder, than you.
    I didn’t expect this comment to be so long but I’ve been playing CoD for a LONG time. Instead of being rewarded for being a good player (which I worked very hard and spent a lot of time to achieve) I get slapped in the face with SBMM and have to sweat every single time I hop on. It’s really annoying.
    All I’m saying is Cold War gives me BO1 vibes which was super exciting to me as it was my favorite call of duty. But I don’t see myself playing this game when it comes out if SBMM is as harsh as it was in the alpha, and I think I speak for a lot of players when I say that.
    Please like this comment in the slight chance the game developers watch seths video and see my comment 😂😂😂. Have a food day y’all.

    • @matr13xm3tro8
      @matr13xm3tro8 4 роки тому +1

      You defintely speak for me lol

    • @warehawk
      @warehawk 4 роки тому +4

      You say you don't want to wash the bottom 30% but the only people who are in the bottom 30% are 1) people who have never played COD before 2) adults that play maybe 1-2 hours A WEEK or 3)children. Anyone above that 30% are competent, probably played multiple cods before or have had significant fps experience. There is no such thing as sweaty lobbies until you get up into the pro level territory.
      Just because the players you play against don't aim for the skies and never shoot back doesn't mean they're sweating, they just have some experience under their belt. It's really hard to take anyone serious when they talk about sbmm because the argument is "well I dont want to play the bottom percentile I just want to go 70-2 and drop nukes every game and have a 4.0 kd" Yeah well realistically, that should NEVER be possible unless you are literally only playing the bottom 30% of players. So most the time it sounds like you should be playing bot lobbies and not multiplayer maybe you'd have more fun then.
      He even says it in the video, in bo2 the people you ran into were pretty terrible at the game you could go on hard streaks and wash people all day, that's because a majority of the time you weren't playing against anyone on your skill level you were only playing against bad players. ALSO the cod community has a little meme we call "Christmas noobs" the very definition of that implies our happiest time playing cod is when we are literally stomping little Timmy who just got his first COD game.
      Also he implies that the gameplay I am watching now is somehow sweaty because he is playing against competent players, just because the lobby is full of people with even a quarter of his knowledge of the game does not mean it's sweaty. He's just mad that he isn't going 100-0 as a pro player

    • @Clayton178
      @Clayton178 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe the bad player can learn some tricks from the 1% Top player whilst playing against or with him?

    • @ofimportance5458
      @ofimportance5458 3 роки тому +2

      @@warehawk Stop crying bot

    • @tidoo3123
      @tidoo3123 3 роки тому +1

      @@ofimportance5458 are... Are you gonna also say that to the original comment.. Or is your bias gonna label redhawk a crybaby but not og comment even tho both of them by your definition are crying?

  • @juniorbravo8368
    @juniorbravo8368 3 роки тому +7

    Scump forgot to mention that considering how some people have such a high K/D they tend to go against hackers more frequently.

  • @King-EA.93
    @King-EA.93 4 роки тому +13

    Sad thing is SBMM is not even based off skill
    But based on player retention.
    They purposely put you against players who arent good as you to go against players who are better or on your level then you lose
    Then you go against players who arent good with a better team so you win
    So it keeps you on the game

    • @kalleanka2796
      @kalleanka2796 4 роки тому

      A good team-balancer would do a lot more for balance than the current SBMM system thats for sure.

  • @TobleroneCraft
    @TobleroneCraft 4 роки тому +293

    SBMM ruined Warzone, hope it doesn’t ruin Cold War.

    • @falinecue5579
      @falinecue5579 4 роки тому +56

      It’s gonna ruin Cold War, I believe Cold War could be good but sbmm is gonna ruin it

    • @riotmakr
      @riotmakr 4 роки тому +37

      I rarely play warzone bc my lobbies are constantly full of sweaty fucks with 5k/d like he's saying. I'm 1.3k/d but holy shit driving away the casual play is not the move.

    • @AOSGAMINGNEWS
      @AOSGAMINGNEWS 4 роки тому +2

      Vid on my channel for how to remove it if interested.

    • @davidcarr9772
      @davidcarr9772 3 роки тому +1

      @iron Exactly! It must be great to not have a job and game all day. Most normal people have to work.
      That tit is only apologising in case he loses subscribers

    • @edgardop.3498
      @edgardop.3498 3 роки тому +1

      Already did

  • @Hidden237
    @Hidden237 4 роки тому +20

    Massive respect to you for speaking out against SBMM, ginger ninja got some brass balls baby 💪🏻

  • @key4duty
    @key4duty 3 роки тому +7

    SBMM needs to change imo. A lot of times it feels like i'm playing in a tournament, I still get loads of kills, but it takes so much effort to stay on that level. Especially when I hit 3 hours of playing in the weekends (with breaks in between). At that point I can notice that my focus is gone and that I'm unable to keep up with other players. That's why I changed to playing shorter sessions of online multiplayer and more warzone. Warzone is the perfect mixture to relax and focus, feels much better after long days of work.

  • @raulvazquez644
    @raulvazquez644 4 роки тому +29

    I’m a noobie and you ain’t hurt my feelings, you’re actually completely right. I hope COD really swallows their pride and listen to you.

  • @IAmJuiceIBox
    @IAmJuiceIBox 4 роки тому +9

    Every successful competitive game has a ranked Playlist. It blows my mind that we haven't had a good one in years

    • @Nrzpokrter
      @Nrzpokrter 4 роки тому

      Cod is a casual shooter

  • @YunqTab
    @YunqTab 4 роки тому +15

    BO2 ~HAD~ it for a second. I remember when they put it in and everyone didn't like it and they took it right back out. He definitely didn't lie but he didn't tell the whole truth. I honestly don't see why they have it. COD has only ever suffered in sales if the game really sucked. The Christmas noobs didn't buy it if they saw people on youtube saying the game was trash. It was never because they were getting shit on because that's a part of a multiplayer game. If you got mad you left the lobby and went to go play in another one. League Play eliminated SBMM and worked so well. I don't see why they stopped that.

  • @Skitzoez
    @Skitzoez 3 роки тому +3

    One of my biggest Problems with sbmm is camo grinding it just sucks if you have a 2 K/D and then try to snipe against mps at closer distances

  • @tee7jay246
    @tee7jay246 4 роки тому +165

    Don’t apologize to the snowflakes😂

    • @Tom-et6ze
      @Tom-et6ze 4 роки тому +6

      For real tf

    • @arthurf7746
      @arthurf7746 4 роки тому +18

      Seriously it's a fuckin game. Holy hell these kids would never survive old cod. COD needs to stop coddling their players and keeping them safe with SBMM. Buncha pussies

    • @tee7jay246
      @tee7jay246 4 роки тому +2

      Micah we wanna be able to sweat in a bo2 league play playlist and get fried or have a beer or 2 in a public playlist, you just wanna stay a shitter in a protected bracket. I mean if you really think about it, SBMM is like communism it just doesn’t work the way it’s intended to

    • @arthurf7746
      @arthurf7746 4 роки тому +3

      @Micah I'm a top 2% player in MW. I shit on lobbies regardless. I'm simply saying it's annoying to have to sweat 24/7. A more balanced approach, like what seth is suggesting, would be much fairer to all sides. Shut up trashcan

    • @kchayyz7804
      @kchayyz7804 4 роки тому +2

      hahahahah Well said my man well said..

  • @turner4243
    @turner4243 4 роки тому +6

    I would like to say thanks for scumpy for giving regular players like myself a voice. It’s not something Seth has to do, like he says his primary concern is his team and the competitive side. It’s a big deal with the undisputed king of COD UA-cam speaks out when he doesn’t really have to.

  • @ltzvic4363
    @ltzvic4363 4 роки тому +25

    WE NEED A GOOD RANK PLAY LIKE BO2! I SAY BO2 RANK PLAY WAS THE BEST, HAVING THAT BAD ASS MASTER DIVISION RANK ON YOUR CALLING CARD IN PUBS WAS THE BEST!

    • @davidbowerman3089
      @davidbowerman3089 4 роки тому

      That would be class! Each level of bronze/silver/gold could be rusted/dented/etc... and the calling card changed when increasing through the divisions... like say 3 lvls in bronze... 4 lvls in silver... 5 in gold and 2 in platinum and 1 in masters but if your in masters and you beat others master you earn like 10-20 cod point per win

    • @joshio8577
      @joshio8577 4 роки тому +1

      @ItzYaBoiFivezz Actual facts, perfect elo system it was only annoying a team of 4 could only play against another team of 4 so sometimes matchmaking was long but other than that it was the best there has been. If they put that system into cold war and then no SBMM for normal pubs.

    • @Sx3Supreme
      @Sx3Supreme 4 роки тому

      @@joshio8577 you could only duo que in ww2 ranked

    • @joshio8577
      @joshio8577 4 роки тому

      @@Sx3Supreme nah bro it started off like that and they were supposed to release 4man queuing in December and it kept getting delayed but around March time they brought it out

  • @notoriousmaddox4105
    @notoriousmaddox4105 3 роки тому +2

    Hit it on the nose. I’ve always been very average at COD (around 1.15kd in most) but found COD to be extremely unrewarding after Ghosts. Once sbmm was implemented into the games, it killed the “surprise” element from them. What I mean by this is that okay, sometimes you’d get in a lobby with a Scump or someone who’d stomp you. That’s okay. Other times, you get a great lobby and get to do the stomping yourself. No game was the same and that’s what I really miss from COD. This is the first year that I didn’t buy the game and I’m happy that I didn’t. It lost its soul from what it used to be. Now happily playing Titanfall 2 and others that care about the player base.