If you ever visit a large Chinese city where majority of the cars are EVs, it's an experience to behold. The once heavy smog and pollution with crazy noisy streets are replaced with clean air and eerily quiet roads.
The fossil fuel industry needs to keep as many people as possible hooked on their drug. With enough people still addicted when "Peak Oil" arrives, the supply and demand curves will change radically and the fossil fuel industry will make more money in one week that they now make in six months. They know this is coming and much sooner than most people believe. They are already injecting water into old low producing wells to get the last few drops out of them. Fossil fuel consumption has increased significantly since 2000 and continues to accelerate every year.
@@Tron-Jockey All wrong, fossil fuel use is decreasing so much that the air we breath is already measurably cleaner. Peak oil will never arrive because we burned the other guys oil before our own and have enough for hundreds of years even if we did not stop using it. 90% of all the oil from known resources in the U.S. is still here because we couldn't pump it out before now. The oil industry is running on borrowed time and they know it. The old wells had only 10% of the oil pumped out of them because we didn't have fracking until recently and couldn't get it out of the ground.
Yes, so many of us crave the EV experience, but find ourselves blocked by evil conspirators at every turn- but here are a few things we can do to get around that. Fill half your gas tank with rocks. This will increase weight and reduce range. (add a few more with every fill up) Avoiding going below 20% or 80% of what is left of your capacity. Stay below 65 mph on the interstate when everyone else is doing 80 Plan every trip meticulously, to include stopping every 200 miles to spend half an hour at the back of a lonely parking lot. Disconnect your alternator, this will force you to ration unnecessary luxuries like heat and ac. Buy a battery charger to plug in every night, (and insist on paying several thousand dollars for it.) Paint over all your gauges, remove all the controls, and replace with a cheap ipad so you have to navigate menus for every previously intuitive function. When you sell the car, accept only half what you are offered.
@@SteveLomas-k6k - To hell with non-free enterprise businesses (like new car dealers). Can't wait until EV's and Direct-to-Consumer auto sales puts these parasites out of business. Wouldn't you agree user-jb2om?
they do the right thing! our power grid would collapse if only 50% of today's ICE would change on EV. All would charge in the evening after work, exactly when most are using energy for cooking, bath, TVs, computer. Aside that, first we need to make sure that the energy doesn't come from fossil power plants, otherwise is everything a nonsense, then we need to upgrade the grid, then the infrastructure and only then start to mass-produce this EVs! the recycling network is still a dream, like most of today's electronic devices end in Africa, despite we pay for recycling, now Lithium is even more expensive to recycle, you think it will not end in Africa too?? aside that, a study said, that Lithium deposits are lasting for max 50 yeas, some say 30, depends on various factors, what's next?? I think we are creating a new mess for the next generation!
@@Ezekiel903 You are simply wrong, dead wrong , and that's where the car companies that are responsible will be, dead. Check facts yourself before spreading FUD. I am a former grid operator and I know what the grid can do and the changes that are being made are needed for completely different reasons than charging electric cars, which is incidental to the real use of the grid. Renewables dictate how the grid will operate from now and into the future, there is a tremendous amount of power that has to be moved from one place to another depending on where the generation is coming from and going to. loads such as EV charging are going to be a necessity to use the system efficiently. We will be using much more power as we change over to an all electric economy. Trains and trucks will run on electric power as well as all industrial processes. When the cars need charging, not at hours when people are going home, but late at night, other uses like cooking and air conditioning and factory use will be off line. Right now we are building 62 new nuclear plants in the U.S. for example. These will need to be run at a high power level needing electrical load at night, besides charging batteries for the peak use in the daytime. Solar is already supplying more power than can be used in Calif. and Texas during certain daylight hours.
@@Ezekiel903 Even if the power comes from fossil fuel, EVs are still far more energy efficient than ICEs. The charging peak at night issue can be resolved by having a spare battery charging during the day using solar. Re lithium, a lot of EV batteries today do not need lithium.
Not a surprise.. In the USA, once Ford and GM decided to back off last year, the whole media and political negative news cycle and FUD on EVs and in particular on Tesla accelerated. the negative noise is at times deafening. It will take time to cut through this noise. You don’t have this issue in China. Europe is in between with governments blowing hot and cold towards EVs. Ultimately, EVs will prevail. The cost advantage of EVs over ICE cars will result in more consumers buying EVs. It will just take longer.
Also the range. Before evs every car that you bought could do at least 300-400km in city and at least 500-600 outside. Normal people don't care about acceleration or retractable door handles, we want a normal car with reasonable price.
Fueling speed is another thing . The climate has always been changing they can't perdict the weather so how can you believe they can perdict the climate
@@eugenec7130That is why governments must use the tax system to make EVs more attractive. It is the right thing to do in the long run and our grandchildren will thank us, otherwise they will curse us
Oh come on, my fun car I drive is a 1992 325i BMW 5 speed, inline slant 6-cylinder, standard transmission. I guess you prefer to be driven. I drive thank you. Call me a motorhead.
@@AtomicHermit /They were just giving Toyota a hard time, now we have to give up truly classic cars? What will a 30-year-old Tesla be worth? I had to look up hegemony, that is qualifying statement for the Germans.
I have been fortunate to have been in Antarctica and the Arctic Circle. The air quality was amazing. Breathing was clearly better. The lack of noise was amazing. It is a shame that more people haven’t experienced this . If they did, they would realize what these industries are doing to us. I will never drive an ICE vehicle again.
@@mikewallace8087 there are several EVs on Svalbard at least... And this last winter up in the north of Norway EVs still started at lower temperatures than ICE vehicles.
What's really amazing to me, is how they convinced all those EV-only companies to sabotage themselves, lay off workers and go bust ! They made it look uncannily like nobody wanted to buy their lousy products.
Ok THIS , Viking, is exactly where all of what you thought was media bias - is actually coming from. Japanese automakers spend massive amounts of money advertising, and they have sway in some publications but the car companies were behind it all along. Good work!
@@freeheeler09 ridiculous , big vehicle sales are below ground . The prices are very high. They sit at dealers for hundreds of days . I see many used car dealers with many big ICE vehicles in their front rows. But I still see some people with huge 4X4 's with energy gobbling tires rolling down the roads.
GM was the EV maker a few years ago decades before Tesla, they took them all of the road and crushed them after realizing that EVs would destroy the servicing business
What amazes me it's too many people put too much trust into the free market there is no free market. There was he wouldn't have a housing problem or all the other issues that we have. It's all about the money.
If EVs have far less parts, and the tech of making a motor spin while connected to a battery isn't at all complex. Why are they having a hard time making money off of them? I don't understand what the problem is.
That's the problem. Dealers make an inordinate profits on maintenance & repair work on ICE vehicles, that are inherently complex and costly to keep on the road after the first 2-3 years. Dealerships hate EVs, because their stream of cash dries up after the sale of the vehicle. Answer is to sell EVs direct from the factory to the customer and authorize repair shops to repair those vehicles. A separate division would need to be spun off for that, IMO. That is another reason Tesla has the market share in EVs. Also, regarding insurance... After an insurer declares the EV is a "total", that company takes the vehicle back and sells off parts, namely the propulsion battery pack. That covers a lot of the write off. China has huge EV sales because where China may have issues on many of its government policies, their government recognizes that it has little "oil" and a billion Chinese. All of them driving petrol cars can't be good. Therefore, the freedoms to drive what you want is overruled by practical necessity. Hence, EV "coercion" , to keep the Oil Companies out of their hair.
Part of it is aerodynamics, part weight, factory efficiency and cost, cost, cost. The traditional supply chain the legacy automakers use will not work to keep costs very low. Plus, extreme automation is needed and high factory utilization, which means high sales numbers of just a couple of models. Ford realized this over a century ago when asked about color choice for the model T, he famously said, “ They can have any color they want, as long as it’s black.” Point being it’s a completely different animal - test drive one and you’ll see what I mean.
@@shahinizadpanah6833 Caveat: right now it's the batteries, but mostly for those that refuse to purchase Chinese batteries. Chinese battery manufacturers are years ahead in both production optimization and battery tech itself. With the current prices for Chinese-made LFP battery packs it should already cost less to make an EV than to make an ICE car. And batteries are quickly improving in both price and energy density. By 2030 I suspect the Chinese ICE car industry will have died out due to being unable to compete on price. Right now China's ICE car industry is already in life support due to losing half its market in just a few years, with manufacturers like Jeep or Mazda leaving the country and many plants running at reduced capacity or even abandoned. Another funny thing: car part manufacturing is a high volume, low margin business that is easily disrupted by diminishing demand. If, or when, EVs take a large enough share of the market, the fall in demand for ICE parts will force their manufacturers to either raise prices or go bankrupt - which should make ICE cars even less competitive against EVs.
@@avdp9095True. EV market outside China is only about11% of world market. China removed subsidies for EV purchase last year, yet sales are still growing.
@@Zerpentsa6598 they subsidise the manufacturers directly with billions, to disrupt Europe. However still nihil sales. Only in Russia sells Byd among other Chinese brands very well because all foreign carmanufacturers left. China has no problem with the war in Ukrain.
This started with making EV ugly or weird looking on purpose so they would not be popular. Even something as simple as the BMW baby blue stripe is an attempt to reduce demand. Automakers think this is clever and consumers won't even understand why they didn't buy the car but we do. They have always done the same thing with lower priced version of gas models to force buyers who care what it looks like up the line to the loaded one.
Modern car emissions aren't a problem. It was before fuel injection and catalytic converters. Ford lost $100,000 on every BV it sold. That's not sustainable. Are they just supposed to go out of business because you want to force them to make a product that losses them money?
I thought Hyundai just invested $50 Billion into EV's and hybrids? Plus, Hyundai has a new factory in Georgia, USA for electric. Are they not really trying on EV's?
Yeah i was surprised to see Hyundai scored that low. up where i am in BC Canada the Hyundai/kia EV's are clearly the most popular EV's on the road after Tesla. I see tons every day. But maybe they are less sold in other regions...
I pray hyundai really watches their ass. China will drive out hyundai from China likely by the end of 2024 once hyundai sells their 3rd plant, but there's no one left to spend that money left. Then China will flood hyundai out of Australia,and then out of Europe. Selling EVs for hyundai will be a bloodbath. Don't rush in and think its nirvana the way GM and FORD in America. Its a giant trap.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out if a Hyundai EV or hybrid is a wise purchase or not. They don't yet have the "North American Charging Standard" (NACS) plug yet until 2025 but they have a NACS adapter so? I'm looking at a 2024 Kona SEL right now and wondering if I should get it or wait for something with the NACS plug and better battery? The batteries I really want won't come out until 2025. It would be my only care so, I don't want to get kicked out of hospitals or have to fear putting it in the garage tho - will the 2024 Kona still have those issues? If not a Hyundai, what's the next best choice for the price?
I live in Germany and now own only EV cars, we have an EQA250 and a Smart EQ ForTwo. Best thing we've ever done. I've all but given up talking to friends and colleagues about the merits and ease of use of EVs, as the mainstream media and social media has people absolutely against EVs. It really doesn't matter how many myths you try to dispel people just don't believe you.
You should read the Kodak story & how they ignored the digital camera disruption & went bankrupt!!! It's AMAZING the number of similarities in the moves that Kodak made, that Toyota has been making. Toyota IS the next Kodak!!!
Regardless of whether or not in the future one of your relatives die of lung cancer caused by diesel cars and you children poisened by lead in paint and other toxic chemicals emitted from coal power plants (cause it’s cheap fuel), just so the company that makes the most profits wins? That is your logic? Really? Ever heard of “Love Canal”? Look it up, Please……
Do not underestimate the nearly impassable hurdle for legacy brands to transition: - all are heavily indebted - they are assemblers of outsourced component production which imposes a contractual hurdle for continuous optimization - their designs are not weight optimized which is essential for an EV: Less efficient car may consume for instance 10L gas more, but that would translate to doubling the battery pack in EV - EV are also transitioning to SDC (Software Defined CAR) and most legacy brands lack software expertise So trying to get to the point of current Tesla technology and production would imply: - selling EV for years at a loss, while eating into the still profitable ICE - having to restructure their business model towards vertical integration - shedding their red tape infested organizational structure So by now most legacy brands have concluded they are not going to make that transition and settle for ICE while it lasts or try to take refuge in the less price sensitive luxury niche be it ICE or EV.
@@rogerphelps9939 Actually the Chinese government has done it. SASAC with the power to move money to where it helps China the most is unbeatable. Imagine if the US took Billions from other industries and simply gave it to Tesla. Or took a factory away from Ford/GM/Stallantis whatever and gave it to Fisker. SASAC helped out Xiaomi in obtaining its factories from another entity.
This is a battle of companies that think shareholders are more important than people. And politicians think lobby groups with lots of money are more important than people. I am still at Guangzhou China and have not ridden a taxi which is not a EV. Even with all the bad press, they have some policies which are good for the people.
I am tired of people being dishonest about carbon being a pollutant, this is not true. Carbon is a great way for government to make lots of money by taxing it. Why do greenhouses have carbon pumped in to make the plants grow faster? Also why do you show pictures of cars blowing out harmless condensation when talking about how polluting they are? If EV's are good people will buy them, but even Tesla is selling lss cars than it used to. I lived in Sydney when the skies were brown, now they are clear except when there are bushfires or burning off of fuel. I like electric cars, but it is wrong of government trying to push them by subsidising their sales. When they are good enough and reasonable priced, without financial assistant they will succeed otherwise they won't. The world isn't ending because of carbon pollution, however the world may end from being destroyed by wind and solar farms polluting our farm lands.
Ever heard of black lung? That’s about as carbon containing as anything gets! Yeah great idea, let’s all give you the expert a thumbs up. How about “Love Canal”? Governments push policies like EV adoption because they see it as a good in multiple dimensions. Subsidizing sales by giving a tax break to early adopters is hardly damaging to any one else; not to mention the lack of polution being sucked into others lungs on a daily basis. Yeah, just leaving it to the most greedy companies that don’t really give a damn about your children’s health is a great idea that has been tried and found wanting. Don’t have kids? Well I do and your argument is idiotic. Solar polluting farm lands? Really, what industry do you work for? Union Carbide?
Carbon is like most things, we need roughly the right amount for the entire planet to stay in balance. To much or too little causes problems. Think about your body and, say, salt. Eat none and you die quite quickly. Eat a kilogram and you will get very sick.
I think they're honest, but most people seem genuinely confused about the word 'carbon' I think because it sounds 'dirty' they think Co2 is what causes smog. And media stock images used to show chimneys 'belching Co2' are invariably cooling towers emitting water vapor. They have no idea that Co2 is invisible, odorless, naturally occurring and what actually makes Earth green. But in any further discussion it's obvious they're not particularly interested. They believe the 'solutions' are good ideas anyway, so why scrutinize the 'problem'?
being selfish is distructive. What about the childrens when they grow up, they will hate those that pollute their air meanwhile those guilty of anti clean air lie in the grave
None of this is surprising, as you say Sam. Most of these companies are run by cowardly executives, who have dedicated their lives to climbing the corporate greasy pole. None are visionaries like Henry Ford and other founders, who knew their companies inside out. These companies have grown into gigantic supertankers, and the executives are terrified of changing course, they don't know how, they don't have the knowledge to make the profound and urgent changes. Nor are there foolproof business theories on how to change course so fundamentally. They’d rather do token marketing gestures and trumpet their (pitiful) achievements in advertising. In the mean time they will continue to pocket their inflated salaries, that’s all they really care about.
Because they are losing money with every EV made, and more and more EV stay unsold without government subsidies. If EV charging stations were profitable, there would be many investors to build them, apart from TESLA everyone wait to see what's happening.
I was an EV revulotion enthuziast for many years but, I recently realized that this process îs discretly sabotagedby every everypart involved. Including the guverments, the media and even the EV manufacturers. Analized this. 1. Batery pack availability as a part does not exist. Due to its continuosly degradation, the batery cells behave like any other consumable . Like brake pads, tyres, etc. But you can not buy a new one after the old one has degrated becouse its price îs simply biger than the cars value. So the conclusion îs the EV are not real cars, but batteries on whells. When the bat îs over, the car is over. Thats unacceptable as an EV owner. I think the guverments should force any EV producer to declare a baterry pack price în its comercial adverts egually like the Banks declare the interests rateș for their credits. 2. The juice prices are really crazy. I have seen even 0,79 euros for 1kwh. This is even more expensive than the gas. The govs has to take action. Normal price îs 0,15 euros . And if you sell it high quantity should even be cheaper. 3. Insurance companies refused to take risks for repairs after accidentes. Who take them ? Nobody . Anacceptable. They are many other issues but I stop here. All these are simply sabotaging facts.
That’s it….my next EV will be a Tesla. I’ve enjoyed representing an alternative to Elon Musk and Tesla by driving a Kia Niro EV while working as a Lyft driver these last few years, due to not wanting to involve myself in the drama put out there by the media, and instead focus on getting people in electric vehicles in general. The recent behavior of OEMs, the media, and the powers that be trying to manipulate Tesla stock value has made me terrified of the power of misinformation, while also realizing that this tactic to slow down the transition of EVS will be the very thing that brings them down. China has been waiting at the door with cheaper electric vehicles for years now our president today just had to sign a 100% tariff to stop this competition. These guys started working on their book report day one-six months before, while we haven’t even started and it’s due tomorrow morning . Meanwhile, everyone in America is trying to stop the transition to adapting new technology, to evolving becoming a leader in battery chemistry, production lines,etc. OEMs are scared that they can’t turn a profit, which is why is they didn’t get a start 12 years ago with Tesla. The only thing that will save them now isa time-machine. I’ve come to realize I must go all in on Tesla, and be more honest about their incredible advantage over the competition- because of this anti-ev campaign as of the last few months. What a ‘great’ plan Big Oil/OEMs have, to only make us stronger & more motivated by putting their bias & ignorance out in the open for all to see. Even with whatever Elon Musk decided to tweet that day. Anti-EV sabotaging will always bother me more than a political tweet from Elon.🇺🇸
Plug-in hybrids need a pure electric range that at least matches the owner's daily commute to justify the hassle of plugging in, and those from legacy auto typically have a battery so small as to be almost useless. With a large enough battery a PHEV essentially becomes an extended-range EV; something you run on pure electricity for your day-to-day use, and run on fuel for the eventual long trip. For the most part, though, I've only ever seen a reasonable electric range on Chinese PHEVs.
The FUD campaign is clearly working in the short term. I hear the negative talking points parroted every day by people unfamiliar with BEVs. We are nearing the 10% tipping point in the US and the auto and oil companies know it. So they are fighting really hard (have you noticed an increase in the FUD--I have!) to stop BEV sales any way possible. In the longer term, the ones fighting the hardest to slow this will most likely be the ones which will fall hardest. Toyota may not survive the transition. Once the changeover occurs and a 20% drop in oil consumption occurs, many petroleum companies that can't adapt will die and the trend will accelerate.
Why is everyone crying like a baby? If EVs are more interesting to consumers than other propulsion systems, they will buy them. Let the free market talk. You can't force people to buy stuff that they don't want. Well, you can, but that's not a world we want to live in, is it?
That’s the point… it’s not a free market. The oil companies and global legacy ORM are putting their interests ahead of the consumer. Regardless, the consumer will go EV. Just like the Japanese ate Detroit in the 70’s, the EVs will eat ICE vehicles. It’s sad because the UAW is working against the US worker in the long run, who will be most negatively impacted.
So emotive! Gosh, I'm scared. And your observation is a load of old bollocks, people will buy a car based on what they hear and read in media which is mostly BS so they'll make a BS decision and buy a fossil tank. Fossil cars are incredibly good at generating revenue for the fat, dirty companies that screw the customer in every way possible. It's plain and obvious, and these companies have an advantage - that people like you are scared of change and keep buying the same old vehicles regardless of how bad they are.
The real issue is usage of transport, trying to make 1 size fits all is madness, I do 4000 miles a year, making me buy an ev is worse for the environment than my current petrol car, when you calculate the cost its emitted and including it manufacturering cost puts it around what a new un driven tesla model 3 would pump out. I produce my own renewable energy at home from solar yet I have to pay more for tax. Its all about continuous revenue rather than the environment, this means that eventually it will collapse. I feel sorry for anyone who's brought a new eV with their own money, they will have lost a huge amount
During winter driving EV occupants wear CarHeart winter overalls and Russian fur caps along with Hot Fingers mittens to extend the EV range by not using the heater inside.
Not in my EV they don't. I set the climate control to 18-20 degrees Celsius, just as I did in my ICE car. My range last winter was 260 miles, which was plenty for me.
I don’t think EV‘s on their own is going to affect the climate we need both solar power and battery power to help shut down coal powered stations, more for the climate change. Unfortunately, money brings out evil and greed.
California and Germany, to name two, are nearing 100 % renewals during daylight hours or are reaching them. In Germany, there's a massive boom of small solar installations ("Balkonkraftwerke", that is balcony power stations) that drive down conventional power production. I, for one, have one, and hardly use the grid during the day.
You might be interested that industry other than automakers is quietly moving to renewables to power their work because it is so much cheaper than fossil fuels.
You could argue that Toyota was the smartest company, hedging their bets on the EV market. Until the power grid is not burning fossil fuels, evs will have a limited impact on climate change. The biggest emissions offenders are the shipping industry, aircraft, and electric power generation.
You mentioned the UK but in the UK only around 50% of drivers would have access to a suitable home charger. And rapid public charging is more expensive than filling with fuel. Outside of subsidised company car sales, private buyers of EVs in the UK are almost non-existent. There is also concern about placing chargers underneath large apartment blocks for overnight charging. One large automaker has already said, if the UK sticks with mandates that a certain % of EVs must be sold they will have to leave the UK market as they can't force people to buy EVs they don't want.
Thank you conservative, i.e. backwards, government for this. In Germany, wallboxes were and are heavily subsidised, so it is much easier and cheaper to get one. Regardless: We are saving so much money with our electric car, it was definitely worth getting one installed. Additionally, it is much more convenient to have one: No more trips to the gas station, no more hunting low prices, just come home, plug in, and presto!
@@joergmaass the “forcing of governments” has been on the petrol side for so long few notice it but change of any kind looks like force with a capital F. I would slow charge anyway meaning using a regular plug in. But also I moved to town. But once the charge stations build out, not only will we no longer be forced to breathe polluted air to stay mobile, the battery tech will have improved even more and a smorgasbord of charging options will be available like stations, quicker battery efficiency meaning more power for less battery, wireless charging etc etc etc. I am here for it. I’ll mostly be biking but when TaaS gets more common, I know which vehicles I will ask for. It’s gonna be fun to rent different vehicles for travel and personal projects too.
Regulations are being changed to allow people without driveways to run the cables through a slot in the pavement and that should allow more people to charge from their homes. That car maker wouldn't be Toyota would it? That company is a nuisance. The technology is available for them to make electric cars but they won't and they make threats. I think that these threats are irrelevant because Toyota will contract if it doesn't start making serious EVs and not that waste of space known as the BZ4X.
@@catherinegrimes2308 No not Toyota, in fact they will probably be ok as they have plans for a phev that will meet the UK requirements in terms of qualifying as an EV. For the pavement idea, they would surely have to make it so that you had a numbered parking space outside your house?
Trad car companies get 20-50% of profits from after sales services. Gassers break down and have so many more parts than a BEV. In the last 6 months I have notice a massive massive campaign against BEV's here on youtube likely funded by oil and the traditional car companies. How you can tell is they are recently created channels with low sub counts and all anti EV videos. Also lots of their comment look ummmm well AI generated. Hopefully UA-cam will crack down on this ......but probably not.
Lots of people commenting on free market principles. Guess no need for the 100% import tariff on EVs then. Also note that lobbying works per the tobacco industry playbook which is well documented. Lobbying is a free market impediment.
@@asoganmoodaly8743 I don't have the time, inclination, or responsibility to educate the planet on the truth, but that doesn't change the truth. Your comment is argumentative and pejorative. Point your finger in the mirror little one.
fitting LPG to Bi-Fuel all ICE would eliminate particulates to the standards they are now demanding for emissions levels, but they missed the boat for cleaning up the environment.
"We now know emissions from vehicles are killing us..." (03:04) "...we'll have so spend more money putting filters on them" (03:16) Perhaps you've heard of CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, which are "filters" to remove the harmful pollutants from ICE vehicle exhausts? They've been mandatory for DECADES in civilized countries.
Oh my, what ignorance. Catalytic converters do not remove pollutants. They allow the combustion of “Unburnt gasoline” as its Primary function. If there is lead or any other pollutant in the fuel it generally will get past it and out into the atmosphere through the exhaust. Your rant is ignorant. Diesel and gasoline burning engines emit toxic gases that are not good to ingest in your lungs - just because you can’t see it does not mean it is not harmful. Coal power plants the same, even with those nice electrostatic filters installed. Same thing with radiation poisoning - you can’t see that either. Finally, catalytic converters were only a stop gap on the way to better technology, but they contain Platinum or Palladium as the catalyst - hence the term. EV’s reduce this polution to essentially zero as long as the charging infrastructure is correct. And that is getting better by the day.
Nothing can stop the dominance of EVs in the future, the early to embrace it the better, and countries not helping the growth of them will slowly be left behind.
Don't agree with anyone stopping the advancement of cleaner running vehicles.I don't think the current battery technology is exactly going to help the environment in the broad term either.
Battery technology help the environment? Who expects that? There are a few environmental downsides to battery production, but you should read up about how good for the environment the oil business is.
@@LinzDubNZ That's why I said about cleaner running vehicles.I like electric cars basically,but I don't like the battery technology they're using.The oil industry is a disgrace with what they have been allowed to get up to over the years.I certainly won't be sad to see them destroyed.
@@LinzDubNZ Also I get your reply about batteries helping the environment,but many times it's claimed they're better for the environment when they clearly aren't.
Most countries burn fossil fuel for their electricity. Both China and US still burn coal. 20% of all US electricity is generated by burning coal. Roughly 70% of Australian electricity comes from fossil fuel, and a huge chunk of it is from coal. So please explain how is a rapid transition to EVs going to be good for the environment if you cannot generate clean electricity? Half of all Australian electricity is coming from coal, so you're going to have to burn more coal if more EVs were to be rapidly adopted. And you're accusing automakers for not manufacturing more cars that lose money. Ford and GM tried that strategy but EVs are sitting on dealerships. You're barking up the wrong tree if you really care about the environment. Automakers will gladly manufacturer cars that consumers will purchase.
Don't fall into the fossil fuel industry propaganda. The reason EVs are cleaner is because the power plant (utility) can generate electricity much cleaner and more efficiently than giving gasoline to millions of individual automobiles. Your utility can burn far cleaner fuels than your car can, such as natural gas. Putting gasoline into a car wastes 75% of the energy to heat.
In the u.s. solar wind and battery produce more electric than coal and the results the second largest coal mining company in the u.s. is closing down this year. Shell oil company is closing 1000 gas stations this year and next. It won’t be long before the gas lovers buts are kicked.
Even run on electricity from coal an EV is more efficient than an ICE: “an internal combustion engine loses around 80% of the energy that goes into it. A coal-burning power plant loses around 68% of its energy. Thus, an EV powered purely by coal still uses less energy than a car powered by gasoline. Methane gas power plants are more efficient than coal power, so an EV charged with electricity from methane gas uses about half as much energy as a similar car powered by gasoline.”
@@av_oid I'm sure somebody good at math can do the calculation. If all the new cars being sold becomes fully electric vehicles, how much more fossil fuel do we need to burn to match the increased electricity demand? And I have no idea how much money needs to be invested to modernize the electric grid to deal with the increased electricity needs. Based on reports from the US, 10 charging units in one location is equivalent to 500 household electricity usage.
Indeed. I'm VERY glad I bought a Corolla Hybrid last year instead of an EV. Half the fuel consumption of my old Corolla, and it costs the same per kilometer to run as an EV. Not to mention being much cheaper.
Indeed. Just like we're told that wind and solar are the "cheapest form of power" (they're not), yet the wind and solar companies claim that they can't survive without STAGGERING amounts of government support.
Lets just look at the worldwide subsidies given to the Fossil Fuel industry - $7 trillion annually at the last count - do EV subsidies come anywhere near that ?
It all comes back to vested/incumbent interests. What does one do with all the productive capacity for ICE vehicles: scrap them and then let go of the surplus staff?
The legacy ICE manufacturers probably see the writing on the wall but are reacting to short term demand issues in cutting back on the production of EV's. It's the dealerships that are resisting the most. If you go into an ICE dealership and ask about their EV's they either act clueless, try to steer you to an ICE car, or begrudgingly show you an EV but without much enthusiasm.
Reminds me of east and west Germany. Rest of the world will be driving fancy new cars while Americans are stuck with their shitty domestically made Trabants.
Wow, I have been a big Toyota fan. I own a 2003 Tundra. But no longer. My next vehicle will be an Aptera. With oil production set to start falling in the next few years and legacy auto makers flubbing the transition, EVs will win. Now is an awesome EV stock buying opportunity! 😀
If EVs were so good we would not need laws forcing people to buy them. Nor stealing money from people at the point of a gun so rich people can buy them cheaper.
By stealing money from people at gunpoint I assume you mean providing Tax incentives for EVs. In the USA, because the tax system is graduated and progressive, 50% for the population pays NO federal income tax (i.e lower income - no tax). So the the people buying EVs and getting Tax incentives (upper income) are the only ones paying federal taxes. But wait...the tax regulation changed this year and even low income people (that pay zero federal tax) qualify for the $7,500 tax credit at POS (deducted from the price of their car at point of sale). It seem that the "rich" people are being fleeced to incent poor people to buy EVs. So it's the opposite of what your propaganda filled media site is telling you. For the record, I'm in favor of the government subsidizing lower income people's purchases of EVs.
@@RyoshiKuraOka So you are in favor of stealing money at the point of a gun so people can buy new cars? Why not just let them buy a cheaper used car like most of us working folks do? We do not need to put tax $$$ in Musk's pockets.
Apart from this, also Europe itself (and maybe also US) are the problem. In EU for example, governments push to get everything electrified. However: power grids are not at all adapted to the surge in energy requirements. Consequence: energy bill surges (not due to cost on energy, but due to raised taxes you have to pay as they need that money to reform the electricity grid). Consequence: apart from much more expensive cars, people also have crazy energy bills for charging their cars at home which is why people dont buy, which also makes car makers to hold off on pushing EVs as there is more profit in fuel cars. I am one of the lucky ones having a company car, which at these times are all electrical in Belgium. But there is not a lot of people buying EVs here in Belgium on a private basis due to all the hidden costs that come with it one side, and the "adapt rules as you go"attitude of the government: rules with regards to taxes on energy, funding, benefits change as they see fit (changes every year) so you cannot make a long term payment plan as a private customer. In my opinion EU car makers do not really sabotage, they are careful not going bankrupt by plumetting sales in EU because people simply dont buy the cars because of government trying to knock the money out of everyones pockets to sponsor their energy projects which are long overdue (and they used all of the tax money they got in the past 2 decades to sponsor other things such as social security, migration,... instead of building out a strong energy grid). If you look at the stats in Belgium you will see that the majority of EVs are lease cars from companies and only a small percentage is privately owned
The major worst greenhouse gas is methane not CO2. The world has 30 million improperly capped oil wells leaking methane 25 times worse than CO2. Electric cars running on fossil fuel electricity is stupid. The grid in the USA is failing without the added load of EV's. I will buy an EV when these issues are solved. My 1999 Toyota Corolla is running just fine. Thank you
@@katherandefy I am happy to buy an EV running with green electricity. I live in an apartment with no way to charge at home. My town of 7000 people does not have a charging station. The closest Tesla charger is about 10 miles away. I am hoping for a hybrid running on organic alcohol. Maritime vessels are currently using alcohol. There are many solutions, battery cars are a good one but not the only one. Be well
My new Corolla Hybrid uses half the fuel of the 1997 Corolla it replaced (which was still running when I sold it). It was cheaper to buy than any EV, and I'm sure it will be running LONG after an EV would have been scrapped.
@@Gregorio-27 You can charge an EV with a dryer outlet - no joke. Look up the huge array of adapters Tesla sells for their chargers, I was stunned. Yeah, it may be inconvenient for an apartment dweller, but hey you might convince the owner to install a few 240v plugs on the outside wall for just those folks that give a damn. And since all EVs have a ranges of more than 220 miles - ten miles out of your way doesn’t seem that bad to me - especially if it’s in the same direction you normally drive to work or a restaurant.
Automakers "are afraid to get out of their comfort zone"??? No, Sam: they're going broke. Ford claimed it was losing $5k per EV; then came clean & admitted $35K minimum losses per EV. Now they're admitting to losing $133K per EV? I can't wait to hear the results of their next bout of honesty. VW has exhibited similar escalating transparency, and Lucid... It's a bit like peeling an onion, but it gets bigger, not smaller. They've all blown off Tesla's offer of free access to its IP library. They've blown off the invitation to buy Tesla's batteries (Tesla told its battery suppliers they could sell Tesla's batteries royalty-free to competitors so long as Tesla's supply didn't suffer). You can't help some people. They're arrogant, swore they could build EVs competitively - 'We know how to build a car!' is the attitude. But they didn't, & they don't. Instead they're going broke. So they've done two things They've pretty much all announced they'll outsource all EV development & production to China. They're becoming brands only, relabeling Chinese EVs as VW, GM, etc. And they've scaled back or abandoned production of their existing EVs: can't scale with the losses each sale brings. It'll be fascinating to see which legacy auto firms survive - if any. I'd have bet on Ford & Toyota 5 years ago, but it's apparent Toyota's leadership is delusional, and Ford has just cancelled much of its battery orders as it can't scale with losses on its existing models.
Thats why was not buying an ev from any legacy automaker, because these companies are not trustworthy. Plus they cram ev parts into old platforms. What a waste.
Before blaming Japan for the EV slowdown one should visit Japan and see what they drive and how they drive. Microcars are everywhere with financial and practical incentives for consumers to purchase them. And many of them are hybrid with increasing EV range. Oh, I almost forgot to mention their terrific electric train and subway system that takes one pretty much everywhere...
So are car makers really making no profit from selling electric vehicles? Or are they making *less* profit from selling electric vehicles? There is an important difference.
I support a shift to EVs because I'm a Tesla shareholder, but anyone who thinks ICE cars, or indeed anything contributes to climate change, or that climate chage is actually an issue... is brain washed! :D
Wrong. Clearly you have zero understanding of science, you know the thing that enabled Tesla to actually make cars. The evidence for climate change is overwhelming. I suggest you actually look at it instead of sprouting bullshit.
Japan's whole economy (GDP) is based on automotive industry. When your lively-hood is at stake, it will bring the worst out in people. I feel that is what you are seeing here. Thanks for the great video.
@@michaelnoble2432 No - potential would-be buyers are sabotaging their potential EV purchases. That is, reasonable people would buy EVs, they don't, so it must be some sabotage of EVs, probably because people are stupid, were influenced by ICE car makers and Putin's cronies, etc.
In recent times, there has been a noticeable trend of American interventionism, where the pursuit of war and economic interests seem to intertwine. However, China is taking a different approach by extending support to developing nations, aiming to reshape this paradigm. Instead of profiting from conflicts between nations, China is investing in global development.
China locks poor nations into "debt trap diplomacy" and destroys Western manufacturing by dumping products below cost. There's NOTHING virtuous about their actions.
Well, I love my 2022 BMW iX xDrive50 that I purchased in December 2022(?) (manufactured July 2022). It had 2,700 miles on the showroom floor but was exactly what I want all blacked out as the "Shadow Line." I didn't wanna wait for weeks or months to get exactly what I wanted, so I bought it outright full-new SUV price for cash making certain disappointed others esp one Indian (India) guy/customer particularly angry with me. Too bad, so sad. But at least his wife was as sweet and sensitive as she could be. 😊
Absolutely. Big auto knows there is more money selling vehicles with predetermined lifespans. ICE vehicles are easier to design them to fail. Teslas are designed as million mile vehicles.
If you ever visit a large Chinese city where majority of the cars are EVs, it's an experience to behold. The once heavy smog and pollution with crazy noisy streets are replaced with clean air and eerily quiet roads.
if you're not on top, you strive to improve. Once you're on top, you work to stop anyone else taking your position.
That sounds like the days of Robber Barons .
The fossil fuel industry needs to keep as many people as possible hooked on their drug. With enough people still addicted when "Peak Oil" arrives, the supply and demand curves will change radically and the fossil fuel industry will make more money in one week that they now make in six months. They know this is coming and much sooner than most people believe. They are already injecting water into old low producing wells to get the last few drops out of them. Fossil fuel consumption has increased significantly since 2000 and continues to accelerate every year.
@@Tron-Jockey All wrong, fossil fuel use is decreasing so much that the air we breath is already measurably cleaner. Peak oil will never arrive because we burned the other guys oil before our own and have enough for hundreds of years even if we did not stop using it. 90% of all the oil from known resources in the U.S. is still here because we couldn't pump it out before now. The oil industry is running on borrowed time and they know it. The old wells had only 10% of the oil pumped out of them because we didn't have fracking until recently and couldn't get it out of the ground.
That's what the US is doing to China, which will inevitably fail.
They are no better than the tobacco lobby
Yes, so many of us crave the EV experience, but find ourselves blocked by evil conspirators at every turn- but here are a few things we can do to get around that.
Fill half your gas tank with rocks. This will increase weight and reduce range. (add a few more with every fill up)
Avoiding going below 20% or 80% of what is left of your capacity.
Stay below 65 mph on the interstate when everyone else is doing 80
Plan every trip meticulously, to include stopping every 200 miles to spend half an hour at the back of a lonely parking lot.
Disconnect your alternator, this will force you to ration unnecessary luxuries like heat and ac.
Buy a battery charger to plug in every night, (and insist on paying several thousand dollars for it.)
Paint over all your gauges, remove all the controls, and replace with a cheap ipad so you have to navigate menus for every previously intuitive function.
When you sell the car, accept only half what you are offered.
Same kind of fraud.
@@SteveLomas-k6k - To hell with non-free enterprise businesses (like new car dealers). Can't wait until EV's and Direct-to-Consumer auto sales puts these parasites out of business. Wouldn't you agree user-jb2om?
@@SteveLomas-k6k. How often do you drive 200 miles in a day?
@@SteveLomas-k6k That was totally lame, you sound like an old timer defending the horse and cart.
And unlike us...... They have direct access to legislators and the media.
they do the right thing! our power grid would collapse if only 50% of today's ICE would change on EV. All would charge in the evening after work, exactly when most are using energy for cooking, bath, TVs, computer. Aside that, first we need to make sure that the energy doesn't come from fossil power plants, otherwise is everything a nonsense, then we need to upgrade the grid, then the infrastructure and only then start to mass-produce this EVs! the recycling network is still a dream, like most of today's electronic devices end in Africa, despite we pay for recycling, now Lithium is even more expensive to recycle, you think it will not end in Africa too?? aside that, a study said, that Lithium deposits are lasting for max 50 yeas, some say 30, depends on various factors, what's next?? I think we are creating a new mess for the next generation!
@@Ezekiel903 You are simply wrong, dead wrong , and that's where the car companies that are responsible will be, dead. Check facts yourself before spreading FUD. I am a former grid operator and I know what the grid can do and the changes that are being made are needed for completely different reasons than charging electric cars, which is incidental to the real use of the grid. Renewables dictate how the grid will operate from now and into the future, there is a tremendous amount of power that has to be moved from one place to another depending on where the generation is coming from and going to. loads such as EV charging are going to be a necessity to use the system efficiently. We will be using much more power as we change over to an all electric economy. Trains and trucks will run on electric power as well as all industrial processes. When the cars need charging, not at hours when people are going home, but late at night, other uses like cooking and air conditioning and factory use will be off line. Right now we are building 62 new nuclear plants in the U.S. for example. These will need to be run at a high power level needing electrical load at night, besides charging batteries for the peak use in the daytime. Solar is already supplying more power than can be used in Calif. and Texas during certain daylight hours.
@@Ezekiel903 You are good at recycling: you have recycled several well-worn and discredited stories right here
@@Ezekiel903 Even if the power comes from fossil fuel, EVs are still far more energy efficient than ICEs. The charging peak at night issue can be resolved by having a spare battery charging during the day using solar. Re lithium, a lot of EV batteries today do not need lithium.
@@davidinkster1296 which one? Lithium reserves? Energy grid? or that 90% of electric devices are ending in Africa, despite we pay for recycling?
The Car Company execs should take a walk on the seashore to watch the tide come in. Then they might understand the word “inevitable”
No inevitable is the failure of evs no one wants them
Not a surprise.. In the USA, once Ford and GM decided to back off last year, the whole media and political negative news cycle and FUD on EVs and in particular on Tesla accelerated. the negative noise is at times deafening. It will take time to cut through this noise. You don’t have this issue in China. Europe is in between with governments blowing hot and cold towards EVs. Ultimately, EVs will prevail. The cost advantage of EVs over ICE cars will result in more consumers buying EVs. It will just take longer.
Ordinary people don't care about climate change and carbon emission. The prices of vehicles are the key for more EV adoptions.
Also the range. Before evs every car that you bought could do at least 300-400km in city and at least 500-600 outside.
Normal people don't care about acceleration or retractable door handles, we want a normal car with reasonable price.
Fueling speed is another thing . The climate has always been changing they can't perdict the weather so how can you believe they can perdict the climate
@@marvenlunn6086this is a silly take. Human caused climate change is beyond doubt.
@@eugenec7130That is why governments must use the tax system to make EVs more attractive. It is the right thing to do in the long run and our grandchildren will thank us, otherwise they will curse us
The last gasps of a dying industry.
Oh come on, my fun car I drive is a 1992 325i BMW 5 speed, inline slant 6-cylinder, standard transmission. I guess you prefer to be driven. I drive thank you. Call me a motorhead.
And the Anglo-American hegemony.
@@AtomicHermit /They were just giving Toyota a hard time, now we have to give up truly classic cars? What will a 30-year-old Tesla be worth? I had to look up hegemony, that is qualifying statement for the Germans.
@@Gregorio-27must be embarrassing being so out-of-touch, when Tesla soccer mums burn you off with the kids in the back laughing.
@@Luxamor-8 A BYD Seal or Xiaomi SU7 will easily do the same to the BMW.
I have been fortunate to have been in Antarctica and the Arctic Circle. The air quality was amazing. Breathing was clearly better. The lack of noise was amazing. It is a shame that more people haven’t experienced this . If they did, they would realize what these industries are doing to us. I will never drive an ICE vehicle again.
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@@janh-r8h Moved from a city to a town of 1K in the US. After a month away from the city I was amazed at the poor air quality I was living in.
You will never drive an EV in the polar regions , EVER . That is a fact that will never change.
@@mikewallace8087 so?
@@mikewallace8087 there are several EVs on Svalbard at least... And this last winter up in the north of Norway EVs still started at lower temperatures than ICE vehicles.
This doesn'tsurprise me at all.
What does surprise me, though, is the vast number of useful idiots they have recruited to help them.
What's really amazing to me, is how they convinced all those EV-only companies to sabotage themselves, lay off workers and go bust ! They made it look uncannily like nobody wanted to buy their lousy products.
I will happily give you a ride in my EV and you can decide for yourself whether I am an idiot. 🙂
@@grahamf695 I think you have misunderstood me. :)
@@DavidPlayfair oh silly me. :-))
@@grahamf695 No problem. It happens. :)
Ok THIS , Viking, is exactly where all of what you thought was media bias - is actually coming from. Japanese automakers spend massive amounts of money advertising, and they have sway in some publications but the car companies were behind it all along. Good work!
The problem that the legacy auto makers have is that there are new entrants, like Tesla and many Chinese companies, that can outcompete them.
Are you failing to see this is by choice? They wanted to stay in their comfort zone as efficiency fell over time. Now they are in trouble.
Fighting against the trend towards EVs could actually make them more, rather than less, vulnerable to Tesla and the Chinese.
Ford Chevy and Chrysler have been reduced to making only monster ICE pickups and SUVs.
@@freeheeler09 ridiculous , big vehicle sales are below ground . The prices are very high. They sit at dealers for hundreds of days . I see many used car dealers with many big ICE vehicles in their front rows. But I still see some people with huge 4X4 's with energy gobbling tires rolling down the roads.
GM was the EV maker a few years ago decades before Tesla, they took them all of the road and crushed them after realizing that EVs would destroy the servicing business
Reminds me of the tobacco lobby battle all over again.
PR firms know what works; their product is doubt. In fact, they undermine capitalism. How can an informed citizenry exist in this environment!? 🤷♂️
What amazes me it's too many people put too much trust into the free market there is no free market. There was he wouldn't have a housing problem or all the other issues that we have. It's all about the money.
Big tobacco, oil, agriculture and pharmaceutical…. The same playbook. All working to maximize short term profit at our expense.
they employ the same lobbyists and PR groups
Tobacco didn't have to battle the UN global agenda.
If EVs have far less parts, and the tech of making a motor spin while connected to a battery isn't at all complex. Why are they having a hard time making money off of them? I don't understand what the problem is.
That's the problem. Dealers make an inordinate profits on maintenance & repair work on ICE vehicles, that are inherently complex and costly to keep on the road after the first 2-3 years. Dealerships hate EVs, because their stream of cash dries up after the sale of the vehicle. Answer is to sell EVs direct from the factory to the customer and authorize repair shops to repair those vehicles. A separate division would need to be spun off for that, IMO. That is another reason Tesla has the market share in EVs. Also, regarding insurance... After an insurer declares the EV is a "total", that company takes the vehicle back and sells off parts, namely the propulsion battery pack. That covers a lot of the write off. China has huge EV sales because where China may have issues on many of its government policies, their government recognizes that it has little "oil" and a billion Chinese. All of them driving petrol cars can't be good. Therefore, the freedoms to drive what you want is overruled by practical necessity. Hence, EV "coercion" , to keep the Oil Companies out of their hair.
It's the batteries.
Part of it is aerodynamics, part weight, factory efficiency and cost, cost, cost. The traditional supply chain the legacy automakers use will not work to keep costs very low. Plus, extreme automation is needed and high factory utilization, which means high sales numbers of just a couple of models. Ford realized this over a century ago when asked about color choice for the model T, he famously said, “ They can have any color they want, as long as it’s black.” Point being it’s a completely different animal - test drive one and you’ll see what I mean.
@@shahinizadpanah6833 Caveat: right now it's the batteries, but mostly for those that refuse to purchase Chinese batteries. Chinese battery manufacturers are years ahead in both production optimization and battery tech itself. With the current prices for Chinese-made LFP battery packs it should already cost less to make an EV than to make an ICE car.
And batteries are quickly improving in both price and energy density. By 2030 I suspect the Chinese ICE car industry will have died out due to being unable to compete on price. Right now China's ICE car industry is already in life support due to losing half its market in just a few years, with manufacturers like Jeep or Mazda leaving the country and many plants running at reduced capacity or even abandoned.
Another funny thing: car part manufacturing is a high volume, low margin business that is easily disrupted by diminishing demand. If, or when, EVs take a large enough share of the market, the fall in demand for ICE parts will force their manufacturers to either raise prices or go bankrupt - which should make ICE cars even less competitive against EVs.
@@roncarguy6361 Funny thing about Chinese dealerships: those that insisted on ICE cars saw their revenues drop sharply and many are even closing down.
In the mean time, BYD is quickly taking over the EV market.
Not true, only in their homemarket and with huge back-up of Chinese authorities....
BYD are laughable Chinese garbage
@@avdp9095True. EV market outside China is only about11% of world market. China removed subsidies for EV purchase last year, yet sales are still growing.
@@Zerpentsa6598 they subsidise the manufacturers directly with billions, to disrupt Europe. However still nihil sales.
Only in Russia sells Byd among other Chinese brands very well because all foreign carmanufacturers left. China has no problem with the war in Ukrain.
But no spare parts
This started with making EV ugly or weird looking on purpose so they would not be popular. Even something as simple as the BMW baby blue stripe is an attempt to reduce demand. Automakers think this is clever and consumers won't even understand why they didn't buy the car but we do. They have always done the same thing with lower priced version of gas models to force buyers who care what it looks like up the line to the loaded one.
Big oil is gradually being replaced by "big battery". They'll rip everyone off too.
very good points!
I used to be a loyal Toyota customer but their anti green lobbying and lack of a viable EV has lost them my future custom, I now drive an MG4
Same, it opened my eyes about their priorities are themselves, so long as they survive stuff the rest of the world and the planet.
So now you drive a car made by a brutal country that has the worst abuse of labor rights, human rights and environmental pollution? lol
It’s been nearly 3 years since I traded my BMW V8 gas guzzler for a Tesla model SR plus, and I haven’t looked back once.
I rented a Tesla once and when back to my ICE I swore I would never do that to myself again. Haven't looked back once.
@@PabloLpH Just things that never happened.
I rented a Tesla once and ever since I feel like I'm getting into a horse buggy every time I drive an ICE.
Hertz did look back. Lol
@@chingompiew1please
Modern car emissions aren't a problem.
It was before fuel injection and catalytic converters.
Ford lost $100,000 on every BV it sold. That's not sustainable.
Are they just supposed to go out of business because you want to force them to make a product that losses them money?
I have 2004 and 2016 Prius and Toyota totally disappointed me where the MPG remained unchanged. They got too comfortable .
I thought Hyundai just invested $50 Billion into EV's and hybrids? Plus, Hyundai has a new factory in Georgia, USA for electric. Are they not really trying on EV's?
Hyundai's EVs are just going to creep into everyone's garage quietly. They will flourish that way.
Yeah i was surprised to see Hyundai scored that low. up where i am in BC Canada the Hyundai/kia EV's are clearly the most popular EV's on the road after Tesla. I see tons every day. But maybe they are less sold in other regions...
@@fgauer1 I had Hyundai NZ contact me to sell me an original Ioniq EV at a reduced price.
Can't they sell them normally?
I pray hyundai really watches their ass. China will drive out hyundai from China likely by the end of 2024 once hyundai sells their 3rd plant, but there's no one left to spend that money left. Then China will flood hyundai out of Australia,and then out of Europe. Selling EVs for hyundai will be a bloodbath. Don't rush in and think its nirvana the way GM and FORD in America. Its a giant trap.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out if a Hyundai EV or hybrid is a wise purchase or not. They don't yet have the "North American Charging Standard" (NACS) plug yet until 2025 but they have a NACS adapter so? I'm looking at a 2024 Kona SEL right now and wondering if I should get it or wait for something with the NACS plug and better battery? The batteries I really want won't come out until 2025. It would be my only care so, I don't want to get kicked out of hospitals or have to fear putting it in the garage tho - will the 2024 Kona still have those issues? If not a Hyundai, what's the next best choice for the price?
I live in Germany and now own only EV cars, we have an EQA250 and a Smart EQ ForTwo. Best thing we've ever done. I've all but given up talking to friends and colleagues about the merits and ease of use of EVs, as the mainstream media and social media has people absolutely against EVs. It really doesn't matter how many myths you try to dispel people just don't believe you.
Toyota is afraid to become like Kodak
Wrong
You should read the Kodak story & how they ignored the digital camera disruption & went bankrupt!!! It's AMAZING the number of similarities in the moves that Kodak made, that Toyota has been making. Toyota IS the next Kodak!!!
Let the free market decide winners and losers.
Regardless of whether or not in the future one of your relatives die of lung cancer caused by diesel cars and you children poisened by lead in paint and other toxic chemicals emitted from coal power plants (cause it’s cheap fuel), just so the company that makes the most profits wins? That is your logic? Really?
Ever heard of “Love Canal”? Look it up, Please……
Do not underestimate the nearly impassable hurdle for legacy brands to transition:
- all are heavily indebted
- they are assemblers of outsourced component production which imposes a contractual hurdle for continuous optimization
- their designs are not weight optimized which is essential for an EV: Less efficient car may consume for instance 10L gas more, but that would translate to doubling the battery pack in EV
- EV are also transitioning to SDC (Software Defined CAR) and most legacy brands lack software expertise
So trying to get to the point of current Tesla technology and production would imply:
- selling EV for years at a loss, while eating into the still profitable ICE
- having to restructure their business model towards vertical integration
- shedding their red tape infested organizational structure
So by now most legacy brands have concluded they are not going to make that transition and settle for ICE while it lasts or try to take refuge in the less price sensitive luxury niche be it ICE or EV.
Good points!
Ford for example last year made half it's profit off their debt. That's how car finance works. If that's your opener I skip the rest.
Only the best and most flexible and innovative OEMs will survive.
My EV is as good as or better than a Tesla. The hurdles are not that high. Chinese makers have done it.
@@rogerphelps9939 Actually the Chinese government has done it. SASAC with the power to move money to where it helps China the most is unbeatable. Imagine if the US took Billions from other industries and simply gave it to Tesla. Or took a factory away from Ford/GM/Stallantis whatever and gave it to Fisker. SASAC helped out Xiaomi in obtaining its factories from another entity.
This is a battle of companies that think shareholders are more important than people. And politicians think lobby groups with lots of money are more important than people. I am still at Guangzhou China and have not ridden a taxi which is not a EV. Even with all the bad press, they have some policies which are good for the people.
Evs need to be under $15k new. That’s when people will accept them
Hear hear!
I am tired of people being dishonest about carbon being a pollutant, this is not true. Carbon is a great way for government to make lots of money by taxing it. Why do greenhouses have carbon pumped in to make the plants grow faster? Also why do you show pictures of cars blowing out harmless condensation when talking about how polluting they are? If EV's are good people will buy them, but even Tesla is selling lss cars than it used to. I lived in Sydney when the skies were brown, now they are clear except when there are bushfires or burning off of fuel. I like electric cars, but it is wrong of government trying to push them by subsidising their sales. When they are good enough and reasonable priced, without financial assistant they will succeed otherwise they won't. The world isn't ending because of carbon pollution, however the world may end from being destroyed by wind and solar farms polluting our farm lands.
Well said
Ever heard of black lung? That’s about as carbon containing as anything gets! Yeah great idea, let’s all give you the expert a thumbs up. How about “Love Canal”?
Governments push policies like EV adoption because they see it as a good in multiple dimensions. Subsidizing sales by giving a tax break to early adopters is hardly damaging to any one else; not to mention the lack of polution being sucked into others lungs on a daily basis. Yeah, just leaving it to the most greedy companies that don’t really give a damn about your children’s health is a great idea that has been tried and found wanting. Don’t have kids? Well I do and your argument is idiotic.
Solar polluting farm lands? Really, what industry do you work for? Union Carbide?
Carbon is like most things, we need roughly the right amount for the entire planet to stay in balance. To much or too little causes problems. Think about your body and, say, salt. Eat none and you die quite quickly. Eat a kilogram and you will get very sick.
I think they're honest, but most people seem genuinely confused about the word 'carbon' I think because it sounds 'dirty' they think Co2 is what causes smog. And media stock images used to show chimneys 'belching Co2' are invariably cooling towers emitting water vapor. They have no idea that Co2 is invisible, odorless, naturally occurring and what actually makes Earth green. But in any further discussion it's obvious they're not particularly interested. They believe the 'solutions' are good ideas anyway, so why scrutinize the 'problem'?
What boat did you get off?
This is because the majority of us don’t want EVs. There’s still no infrastructure. We prefer hybrids.
being selfish is distructive. What about the childrens when they grow up, they will hate those that pollute their air meanwhile those guilty of anti clean air lie in the grave
When Toyota's hydrogen car is powered by Shell's hydrogen station, you know they're teaming up against EV
Sadly this is our fate, we only care for our self interest, until the day of reckoning when it is too late.
Day of reckoning ? Lol
None of this is surprising, as you say Sam. Most of these companies are run by cowardly executives, who have dedicated their lives to climbing the corporate greasy pole. None are visionaries like Henry Ford and other founders, who knew their companies inside out. These companies have grown into gigantic supertankers, and the executives are terrified of changing course, they don't know how, they don't have the knowledge to make the profound and urgent changes. Nor are there foolproof business theories on how to change course so fundamentally. They’d rather do token marketing gestures and trumpet their (pitiful) achievements in advertising. In the mean time they will continue to pocket their inflated salaries, that’s all they really care about.
Herbert Diess could have saved VW - he knew the future was EVs - so they sacked him....
Because they are losing money with every EV made, and more and more EV stay unsold without government subsidies. If EV charging stations were profitable, there would be many investors to build them, apart from TESLA everyone wait to see what's happening.
its not called "sabotaging" , its called competition and lobbying is legal. Lets not get over carried away by EVs
Not all “sabotaging” are illegal per se, sometimes it just means people are being hypocritical.
Not just the car companies are doing this; the oil industry also
"You will own nothing, eat ze bugs and be happy"
My parents told me of the horrific London smogs In London in the 1950s. Clean air is essential. And I've seen the smogs across the LA basin.
I was an EV revulotion enthuziast for many years but, I recently realized that this process îs discretly sabotagedby every everypart involved. Including the guverments, the media and even the EV manufacturers. Analized this.
1. Batery pack availability as a part does not exist. Due to its continuosly degradation, the batery cells behave like any other consumable . Like brake pads, tyres, etc. But you can not buy a new one after the old one has degrated becouse its price îs simply biger than the cars value. So the conclusion îs the EV are not real cars, but batteries on whells. When the bat îs over, the car is over. Thats unacceptable as an EV owner. I think the guverments should force any EV producer to declare a baterry pack price în its comercial adverts egually like the Banks declare the interests rateș for their credits.
2. The juice prices are really crazy. I have seen even 0,79 euros for 1kwh. This is even more expensive than the gas. The govs has to take action. Normal price îs 0,15 euros .
And if you sell it high quantity should even be cheaper.
3. Insurance companies refused to take risks for repairs after accidentes. Who take them ? Nobody . Anacceptable.
They are many other issues but I stop here. All these are simply sabotaging facts.
Here we go. More "paid for" negative disinformation propaganda. Try to at least get SOME of the grammar correct.
The batteries last 150k and some even 200k miles. That’s the life of the car you unlikely that you have to replace the battery.
It's disgusting!!!
That’s it….my next EV will be a Tesla. I’ve enjoyed representing an alternative to Elon Musk and Tesla by driving a Kia Niro EV while working as a Lyft driver these last few years, due to not wanting to involve myself in the drama put out there by the media, and instead focus on getting people in electric vehicles in general. The recent behavior of OEMs, the media, and the powers that be trying to manipulate Tesla stock value has made me terrified of the power of misinformation, while also realizing that this tactic to slow down the transition of EVS will be the very thing that brings them down. China has been waiting at the door with cheaper electric vehicles for years now our president today just had to sign a 100% tariff to stop this competition. These guys started working on their book report day one-six months before, while we haven’t even started and it’s due tomorrow morning . Meanwhile, everyone in America is trying to stop the transition to adapting new technology, to evolving becoming a leader in battery chemistry, production lines,etc. OEMs are scared that they can’t turn a profit, which is why is they didn’t get a start 12 years ago with Tesla. The only thing that will save them now isa time-machine.
I’ve come to realize I must go all in on Tesla, and be more honest about their incredible advantage over the competition- because of this anti-ev campaign as of the last few months. What a ‘great’ plan Big Oil/OEMs have, to only make us stronger & more motivated by putting their bias & ignorance out in the open for all to see. Even with whatever Elon Musk decided to tweet that day. Anti-EV sabotaging will always bother me more than a political tweet from Elon.🇺🇸
Sam: You missed the biggest scam plug in Hybrids, the majority of which are almost never plugged in.
Plug-in hybrids need a pure electric range that at least matches the owner's daily commute to justify the hassle of plugging in, and those from legacy auto typically have a battery so small as to be almost useless.
With a large enough battery a PHEV essentially becomes an extended-range EV; something you run on pure electricity for your day-to-day use, and run on fuel for the eventual long trip. For the most part, though, I've only ever seen a reasonable electric range on Chinese PHEVs.
I’m grateful that China is leading the way with fabulous ev cars and batteries. ❤😊
The FUD campaign is clearly working in the short term. I hear the negative talking points parroted every day by people unfamiliar with BEVs. We are nearing the 10% tipping point in the US and the auto and oil companies know it. So they are fighting really hard (have you noticed an increase in the FUD--I have!) to stop BEV sales any way possible. In the longer term, the ones fighting the hardest to slow this will most likely be the ones which will fall hardest. Toyota may not survive the transition. Once the changeover occurs and a 20% drop in oil consumption occurs, many petroleum companies that can't adapt will die and the trend will accelerate.
This is normal. They lose Billions if they don’t
Why is everyone crying like a baby? If EVs are more interesting to consumers than other propulsion systems, they will buy them. Let the free market talk. You can't force people to buy stuff that they don't want. Well, you can, but that's not a world we want to live in, is it?
That’s the point… it’s not a free market. The oil companies and global legacy ORM are putting their interests ahead of the consumer. Regardless, the consumer will go EV. Just like the Japanese ate Detroit in the 70’s, the EVs will eat ICE vehicles. It’s sad because the UAW is working against the US worker in the long run, who will be most negatively impacted.
EVs will help save the world for our grandchildren Seems most people don't care about that.
So emotive! Gosh, I'm scared. And your observation is a load of old bollocks, people will buy a car based on what they hear and read in media which is mostly BS so they'll make a BS decision and buy a fossil tank. Fossil cars are incredibly good at generating revenue for the fat, dirty companies that screw the customer in every way possible. It's plain and obvious, and these companies have an advantage - that people like you are scared of change and keep buying the same old vehicles regardless of how bad they are.
It’s not a free market when legacy auto and oil are interfering with the market by influencing governments and buying the media.
100% 👍 Let free markets decide the tempo of the transition 👋👋👋
The real issue is usage of transport, trying to make 1 size fits all is madness, I do 4000 miles a year, making me buy an ev is worse for the environment than my current petrol car, when you calculate the cost its emitted and including it manufacturering cost puts it around what a new un driven tesla model 3 would pump out. I produce my own renewable energy at home from solar yet I have to pay more for tax. Its all about continuous revenue rather than the environment, this means that eventually it will collapse. I feel sorry for anyone who's brought a new eV with their own money, they will have lost a huge amount
During winter driving EV occupants wear CarHeart winter overalls and Russian fur caps along with Hot Fingers mittens to extend the EV range by not using the heater inside.
Not in my EV they don't. I set the climate control to 18-20 degrees Celsius, just as I did in my ICE car. My range last winter was 260 miles, which was plenty for me.
Set 16°C (19°C if female) turn on sit and steeringwheel heater should work just fine
I don’t think EV‘s on their own is going to affect the climate we need both solar power and battery power to help shut down coal powered stations, more for the climate change. Unfortunately, money brings out evil and greed.
California and Germany, to name two, are nearing 100 % renewals during daylight hours or are reaching them. In Germany, there's a massive boom of small solar installations ("Balkonkraftwerke", that is balcony power stations) that drive down conventional power production. I, for one, have one, and hardly use the grid during the day.
You might be interested that industry other than automakers is quietly moving to renewables to power their work because it is so much cheaper than fossil fuels.
You could argue that Toyota was the smartest company, hedging their bets on the EV market. Until the power grid is not burning fossil fuels, evs will have a limited impact on climate change. The biggest emissions offenders are the shipping industry, aircraft, and electric power generation.
I am in a parking lot right now. Most of the cars are trucks and SUVs for a single person. Fix this first.
You mentioned the UK but in the UK only around 50% of drivers would have access to a suitable home charger. And rapid public charging is more expensive than filling with fuel.
Outside of subsidised company car sales, private buyers of EVs in the UK are almost non-existent.
There is also concern about placing chargers underneath large apartment blocks for overnight charging.
One large automaker has already said, if the UK sticks with mandates that a certain % of EVs must be sold they will have to leave the UK market as they can't force people to buy EVs they don't want.
50%? I'm pretty sure you made up those numbers. Do you have proof of any of that?
Thank you conservative, i.e. backwards, government for this. In Germany, wallboxes were and are heavily subsidised, so it is much easier and cheaper to get one. Regardless: We are saving so much money with our electric car, it was definitely worth getting one installed. Additionally, it is much more convenient to have one: No more trips to the gas station, no more hunting low prices, just come home, plug in, and presto!
@@joergmaass the “forcing of governments” has been on the petrol side for so long few notice it but change of any kind looks like force with a capital F.
I would slow charge anyway meaning using a regular plug in. But also I moved to town.
But once the charge stations build out, not only will we no longer be forced to breathe polluted air to stay mobile, the battery tech will have improved even more and a smorgasbord of charging options will be available like stations, quicker battery efficiency meaning more power for less battery, wireless charging etc etc etc.
I am here for it. I’ll mostly be biking but when TaaS gets more common, I know which vehicles I will ask for. It’s gonna be fun to rent different vehicles for travel and personal projects too.
Regulations are being changed to allow people without driveways to run the cables through a slot in the pavement and that should allow more people to charge from their homes.
That car maker wouldn't be Toyota would it? That company is a nuisance. The technology is available for them to make electric cars but they won't and they make threats. I think that these threats are irrelevant because Toyota will contract if it doesn't start making serious EVs and not that waste of space known as the BZ4X.
@@catherinegrimes2308 No not Toyota, in fact they will probably be ok as they have plans for a phev that will meet the UK requirements in terms of qualifying as an EV.
For the pavement idea, they would surely have to make it so that you had a numbered parking space outside your house?
Trad car companies get 20-50% of profits from after sales services. Gassers break down and have so many more parts than a BEV. In the last 6 months I have notice a massive massive campaign against BEV's here on youtube likely funded by oil and the traditional car companies. How you can tell is they are recently created channels with low sub counts and all anti EV videos. Also lots of their comment look ummmm well AI generated. Hopefully UA-cam will crack down on this ......but probably not.
Is not just the car companies. Its the dealers. They are an extremely powerful lobby group.
Learning more about Revux makes me even more bullish.
Lots of people commenting on free market principles. Guess no need for the 100% import tariff on EVs then. Also note that lobbying works per the tobacco industry playbook which is well documented. Lobbying is a free market impediment.
Read up on the Chinese agency SASAC and SOEs. It may help you understand why companies can not directly compete with countries.
Your tariff comment is so ignorant & misguided, I would hope if you were in this thread you'd have more insight than that. Guess not.
@@danharold3087 Except the companies exporting are a mix of state-owned and purely private. The leaders, BYD and Geely are privately owned and listed.
@@beautifulgirl219 You haven't provided any substantive arguments, just an ill-informed opinion. Do better.
@@asoganmoodaly8743 I don't have the time, inclination, or responsibility to educate the planet on the truth, but that doesn't change the truth. Your comment is argumentative and pejorative. Point your finger in the mirror little one.
Companies exist by making profits. If they can't make profits by making EV's, they won't make them
fitting LPG to Bi-Fuel all ICE would eliminate particulates to the standards they are now demanding for emissions levels, but they missed the boat for cleaning up the environment.
"We now know emissions from vehicles are killing us..." (03:04)
"...we'll have so spend more money putting filters on them" (03:16)
Perhaps you've heard of CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, which are "filters" to remove the harmful pollutants from ICE vehicle exhausts? They've been mandatory for DECADES in civilized countries.
Oh my, what ignorance. Catalytic converters do not remove pollutants. They allow the combustion of “Unburnt gasoline” as its Primary function. If there is lead or any other pollutant in the fuel it generally will get past it and out into the atmosphere through the exhaust.
Your rant is ignorant. Diesel and gasoline burning engines emit toxic gases that are not good to ingest in your lungs - just because you can’t see it does not mean it is not harmful. Coal power plants the same, even with those nice electrostatic filters installed.
Same thing with radiation poisoning - you can’t see that either. Finally, catalytic converters were only a stop gap on the way to better technology, but they contain Platinum or Palladium as the catalyst - hence the term. EV’s reduce this polution to essentially zero as long as the charging infrastructure is correct. And that is getting better by the day.
Nothing can stop the dominance of EVs in the future, the early to embrace it the better, and countries not helping the growth of them will slowly be left behind.
No surprise here, they have done it before to kill the competition.
Don't agree with anyone stopping the advancement of cleaner running vehicles.I don't think the current battery technology is exactly going to help the environment in the broad term either.
Yeah it is. Battery tech is great and recycling is an option.
Battery technology help the environment? Who expects that? There are a few environmental downsides to battery production, but you should read up about how good for the environment the oil business is.
@@LinzDubNZ That's why I said about cleaner running vehicles.I like electric cars basically,but I don't like the battery technology they're using.The oil industry is a disgrace with what they have been allowed to get up to over the years.I certainly won't be sad to see them destroyed.
@@LinzDubNZ Also I get your reply about batteries helping the environment,but many times it's claimed they're better for the environment when they clearly aren't.
@@stevengriffin7873 Stick to burning fossil fuels, if it helps you sleep at night....
Hi,
Is there a link to this study?
Share the report link please? Interested people might want to see it for themselves.
"Trust me, bro" isn't good enough for you?
It's like the legacy oems need to be named defendants along side fossil fuel companies in class action suits.
Most countries burn fossil fuel for their electricity. Both China and US still burn coal. 20% of all US electricity is generated by burning coal. Roughly 70% of Australian electricity comes from fossil fuel, and a huge chunk of it is from coal. So please explain how is a rapid transition to EVs going to be good for the environment if you cannot generate clean electricity?
Half of all Australian electricity is coming from coal, so you're going to have to burn more coal if more EVs were to be rapidly adopted. And you're accusing automakers for not manufacturing more cars that lose money. Ford and GM tried that strategy but EVs are sitting on dealerships. You're barking up the wrong tree if you really care about the environment. Automakers will gladly manufacturer cars that consumers will purchase.
Don't fall into the fossil fuel industry propaganda. The reason EVs are cleaner is because the power plant (utility) can generate electricity much cleaner and more efficiently than giving gasoline to millions of individual automobiles. Your utility can burn far cleaner fuels than your car can, such as natural gas. Putting gasoline into a car wastes 75% of the energy to heat.
In the u.s. solar wind and battery produce more electric than coal and the results the second largest coal mining company in the u.s. is closing down this year. Shell oil company is closing 1000 gas stations this year and next. It won’t be long before the gas lovers buts are kicked.
So you like breathing carbon monoxide?
Even run on electricity from coal an EV is more efficient than an ICE:
“an internal combustion engine loses around 80% of the energy that goes into it. A coal-burning power plant loses around 68% of its energy. Thus, an EV powered purely by coal still uses less energy than a car powered by gasoline.
Methane gas power plants are more efficient than coal power, so an EV charged with electricity from methane gas uses about half as much energy as a similar car powered by gasoline.”
@@av_oid I'm sure somebody good at math can do the calculation. If all the new cars being sold becomes fully electric vehicles, how much more fossil fuel do we need to burn to match the increased electricity demand? And I have no idea how much money needs to be invested to modernize the electric grid to deal with the increased electricity needs. Based on reports from the US, 10 charging units in one location is equivalent to 500 household electricity usage.
I’m torn about Toyota. They make several hybrids that can be used as EV’s probably 95 percent of the time.
Except - a lot are company cars and the users are given a FUEL card - fill with petrol or diesel for free - so no incentive to "plug-in"....
On the plus side, I haven't seen the Tesla is doomed claim that "the big boys are coming" in years.
I will not only boycott Toyota. I am going to short the stocks Toyota, Stellantis , GM, and Ford.
Sure thing bub, Toyota is smarter than you will ever be.
@@questions1019So smart they invested billions into defunct hydrogen.
It's bloody disgraceful and Japan should pay the price for this
The Japanese will be laughing all the way to the bank.
@@chris-t-4569 what ever
USA wants them to defy China at all costs and sabotage EVs
Why should they care? Japan has one of the biggest electric transportation networks in the world. It's their trains.
EV's Range and performance degrade greatly in cold temps. Buy a Hybrid .
Indeed. I'm VERY glad I bought a Corolla Hybrid last year instead of an EV. Half the fuel consumption of my old Corolla, and it costs the same per kilometer to run as an EV. Not to mention being much cheaper.
Great piece of reporting! Keep fighting the good fight. I often forward these videos to the folks around me to help spread the word.
I don't blame them, no one want's them.
I want them.
Helps my wallet and breathing.
@@ronfarnsworth7074How does a car that cost more and depreciates faster than an ICE car help your wallet?
I intend to build an electric vehicle that changes how we move.
BBBBBB-UUUUUU-TTTTTT the car companies are RIGHT!
Electrifying all cars is crazy.
Why do we need to subsidize evs if they sre so wonderful?
Indeed. Just like we're told that wind and solar are the "cheapest form of power" (they're not), yet the wind and solar companies claim that they can't survive without STAGGERING amounts of government support.
@@michaelnoble2432 do you know the STAGGERING amounts of subsidies and free military support the oil industry gets?
one might ask the same about billions in oil industry subsidies...
Lets just look at the worldwide subsidies given to the Fossil Fuel industry - $7 trillion annually at the last count - do EV subsidies come anywhere near that ?
It all comes back to vested/incumbent interests. What does one do with all the productive capacity for ICE vehicles: scrap them and then let go of the surplus staff?
Recycle for materials for all kinds of things including the whole electrification revolution.
The legacy ICE manufacturers probably see the writing on the wall but are reacting to short term demand issues in cutting back on the production of EV's. It's the dealerships that are resisting the most. If you go into an ICE dealership and ask about their EV's they either act clueless, try to steer you to an ICE car, or begrudgingly show you an EV but without much enthusiasm.
100% tariff in the US on Chinese EVs....this 'China Containment' policy will make US poorer.
China? They make trash. Would never buy one, terrible quality with a bonus explosive battery.
@@rogerthat2538guess no need for the import tariff then.
Reminds me of east and west Germany. Rest of the world will be driving fancy new cars while Americans are stuck with their shitty domestically made Trabants.
great, they're only doing it because they're forced to.. full EVs are so bad for the environment and Toyota are doing what they know is right.
Wow, I have been a big Toyota fan. I own a 2003 Tundra. But no longer. My next vehicle will be an Aptera. With oil production set to start falling in the next few years and legacy auto makers flubbing the transition, EVs will win. Now is an awesome EV stock buying opportunity! 😀
If EVs were so good we would not need laws forcing people to buy them. Nor stealing money from people at the point of a gun so rich people can buy them cheaper.
Right on.
If ICEs were so good they wouldn't need constant lobbying to not disappear.
@@oxaile4021 IOW, you mean lobbying against laws forcing people to buy EVs?
By stealing money from people at gunpoint I assume you mean providing Tax incentives for EVs. In the USA, because the tax system is graduated and progressive, 50% for the population pays NO federal income tax (i.e lower income - no tax). So the the people buying EVs and getting Tax incentives (upper income) are the only ones paying federal taxes. But wait...the tax regulation changed this year and even low income people (that pay zero federal tax) qualify for the $7,500 tax credit at POS (deducted from the price of their car at point of sale). It seem that the "rich" people are being fleeced to incent poor people to buy EVs. So it's the opposite of what your propaganda filled media site is telling you. For the record, I'm in favor of the government subsidizing lower income people's purchases of EVs.
@@RyoshiKuraOka So you are in favor of stealing money at the point of a gun so people can buy new cars? Why not just let them buy a cheaper used car like most of us working folks do? We do not need to put tax $$$ in Musk's pockets.
Apart from this, also Europe itself (and maybe also US) are the problem. In EU for example, governments push to get everything electrified. However: power grids are not at all adapted to the surge in energy requirements. Consequence: energy bill surges (not due to cost on energy, but due to raised taxes you have to pay as they need that money to reform the electricity grid). Consequence: apart from much more expensive cars, people also have crazy energy bills for charging their cars at home which is why people dont buy, which also makes car makers to hold off on pushing EVs as there is more profit in fuel cars. I am one of the lucky ones having a company car, which at these times are all electrical in Belgium. But there is not a lot of people buying EVs here in Belgium on a private basis due to all the hidden costs that come with it one side, and the "adapt rules as you go"attitude of the government: rules with regards to taxes on energy, funding, benefits change as they see fit (changes every year) so you cannot make a long term payment plan as a private customer. In my opinion EU car makers do not really sabotage, they are careful not going bankrupt by plumetting sales in EU because people simply dont buy the cars because of government trying to knock the money out of everyones pockets to sponsor their energy projects which are long overdue (and they used all of the tax money they got in the past 2 decades to sponsor other things such as social security, migration,... instead of building out a strong energy grid).
If you look at the stats in Belgium you will see that the majority of EVs are lease cars from companies and only a small percentage is privately owned
The major worst greenhouse gas is methane not CO2. The world has 30 million improperly capped oil wells leaking methane 25 times worse than CO2. Electric cars running on fossil fuel electricity is stupid. The grid in the USA is failing without the added load of EV's. I will buy an EV when these issues are solved. My 1999 Toyota Corolla is running just fine. Thank you
But buying EV will solve the problem. Not buying electric is just playing chicken.
@@katherandefy I am happy to buy an EV running with green electricity. I live in an apartment with no way to charge at home. My town of 7000 people does not have a charging station. The closest Tesla charger is about 10 miles away. I am hoping for a hybrid running on organic alcohol. Maritime vessels are currently using alcohol. There are many solutions, battery cars are a good one but not the only one. Be well
My new Corolla Hybrid uses half the fuel of the 1997 Corolla it replaced (which was still running when I sold it). It was cheaper to buy than any EV, and I'm sure it will be running LONG after an EV would have been scrapped.
@@Gregorio-27 You can charge an EV with a dryer outlet - no joke. Look up the huge array of adapters Tesla sells for their chargers, I was stunned. Yeah, it may be inconvenient for an apartment dweller, but hey you might convince the owner to install a few 240v plugs on the outside wall for just those folks that give a damn. And since all EVs have a ranges of more than 220 miles - ten miles out of your way doesn’t seem that bad to me - especially if it’s in the same direction you normally drive to work or a restaurant.
@@RandyP-jr1ek Hi Randy thanks for your reply. This is he information we need to make good decisions.
For a solid x100, Revux should be on your radar!
Stop mandating. You just have to have total control just stop.
As with drugs, you mean.
Automakers "are afraid to get out of their comfort zone"???
No, Sam: they're going broke. Ford claimed it was losing $5k per EV; then came clean & admitted $35K minimum losses per EV. Now they're admitting to losing $133K per EV? I can't wait to hear the results of their next bout of honesty. VW has exhibited similar escalating transparency, and Lucid... It's a bit like peeling an onion, but it gets bigger, not smaller.
They've all blown off Tesla's offer of free access to its IP library. They've blown off the invitation to buy Tesla's batteries (Tesla told its battery suppliers they could sell Tesla's batteries royalty-free to competitors so long as Tesla's supply didn't suffer). You can't help some people.
They're arrogant, swore they could build EVs competitively - 'We know how to build a car!' is the attitude. But they didn't, & they don't. Instead they're going broke.
So they've done two things
They've pretty much all announced they'll outsource all EV development & production to China. They're becoming brands only, relabeling Chinese EVs as VW, GM, etc.
And they've scaled back or abandoned production of their existing EVs: can't scale with the losses each sale brings.
It'll be fascinating to see which legacy auto firms survive - if any. I'd have bet on Ford & Toyota 5 years ago, but it's apparent Toyota's leadership is delusional, and Ford has just cancelled much of its battery orders as it can't scale with losses on its existing models.
Not sabotaging, it's EV demand that peaked. And the second hand market for EVs is tanking...
You are wrong. Mar2024 sales up 23% on Mar2023
Thats why was not buying an ev from any legacy automaker, because these companies are not trustworthy. Plus they cram ev parts into old platforms. What a waste.
HEY SAM.....
The Sky Is Falling. The Sky Is Falling
Wake up Sam ....
What do you mean? Another cocky anti climate self obsessed individual who drives gas guzzlers?
Before blaming Japan for the EV slowdown one should visit Japan and see what they drive and how they drive. Microcars are everywhere with financial and practical incentives for consumers to purchase them. And many of them are hybrid with increasing EV range. Oh, I almost forgot to mention their terrific electric train and subway system that takes one pretty much everywhere...
So are car makers really making no profit from selling electric vehicles?
Or are they making *less* profit from selling electric vehicles?
There is an important difference.
Ford is losing $US100,000 on EVERY EV they sell. It would be corporate suiclde to continue down that path.
I support a shift to EVs because I'm a Tesla shareholder, but anyone who thinks ICE cars, or indeed anything contributes to climate change, or that climate chage is actually an issue... is brain washed! :D
Even the oil companies data predicted climate change from emmisons.
Wrong. Clearly you have zero understanding of science, you know the thing that enabled Tesla to actually make cars. The evidence for climate change is overwhelming. I suggest you actually look at it instead of sprouting bullshit.
Right on.
Or possibly had a passing grade in science classes.
@@RyoshiKuraOka or is gullible af. Whoever thinks that what politicians want is good for him needs a passing grade in life.
Lookup Malcolm Bendall Thunderstorm generator. Pretty soon, combustible engines will be zero emission. Game changer.
Japan's whole economy (GDP) is based on automotive industry. When your lively-hood is at stake, it will bring the worst out in people. I feel that is what you are seeing here. Thanks for the great video.
Sam - please make a video about customers sabotaging EVs, that seems to be way larger issue
What do you mean? People are sabotaging their own EVs?
@@michaelnoble2432 No - potential would-be buyers are sabotaging their potential EV purchases. That is, reasonable people would buy EVs, they don't, so it must be some sabotage of EVs, probably because people are stupid, were influenced by ICE car makers and Putin's cronies, etc.
In recent times, there has been a noticeable trend of American interventionism, where the pursuit of war and economic interests seem to intertwine. However, China is taking a different approach by extending support to developing nations, aiming to reshape this paradigm. Instead of profiting from conflicts between nations, China is investing in global development.
China locks poor nations into "debt trap diplomacy" and destroys Western manufacturing by dumping products below cost. There's NOTHING virtuous about their actions.
this has been obvious for a long time. not all legacy auto can be as inept have they have shown themselves to be with EVs.
Why did Tesla get only a "B" instead of an "A"?
Do you think it is a good time to buy a Tesla Model 3 Performance in Australia? Looking to lease one to own.
Well, I love my 2022 BMW iX xDrive50 that I purchased in December 2022(?) (manufactured July 2022). It had 2,700 miles on the showroom floor but was exactly what I want all blacked out as the "Shadow Line." I didn't wanna wait for weeks or months to get exactly what I wanted, so I bought it outright full-new SUV price for cash making certain disappointed others esp one Indian (India) guy/customer particularly angry with me. Too bad, so sad. But at least his wife was as sweet and sensitive as she could be. 😊
Absolutely. Big auto knows there is more money selling vehicles with predetermined lifespans. ICE vehicles are easier to design them to fail.
Teslas are designed as million mile vehicles.