The idea that somewhere out there, a kid thinks you're the reason that their parents are dead, is enough reason to feel that guilt. He wouldn't have to have done the killing to feel that his part in it, was fuel for the fire.
It is OK taking your time through this show because so many small details have been missed by others that are key to understanding the mystery of LOST.
She really should have a moderator because from experience, commenters are absolutely terrible with shows like this. Perhaps even worse than direct plot spoilers, they casually push character spoilers all the time. They just can never seem to wait for the reactor's feelings about a character to evolve organically.
Maybe her patreons will tip her off. I remember BSG, it was bad for a spell but I don’t think she saw. If she reads those first and waits to read youtube comments she might have protection.
Such an amazing episode. It always surprises me, in general, how quickly people passed over this whole situation with Shannon. I mean, Sawyer was willing to let Shannon die, not a single bone of concern in his body for a girl who was suffering, he just wasted their time with his stupid games, which could have been spent looking for other solutions. And yes, I understand that he has a desire to suffer for everything that happened, but it has nothing to do with that point. Other people's actions are only a reflection of your own, you want to be treated like an animal, there is only so much endurance available until you are treated like an animal. It doesn't matter how morally good others are.
They wasted their own time. There was zero evidence that Sawyer had their luggage and the medication. That was purely Boone making assumptions. And they never just ASKED Sawyer if he had the inhalers. Plus, even when he denied it, they didn't believe him. Sun was 100% the hero of this episode.
When watching this for the first time, I was totally disgusted by Sawyer… but the letter scene at the end made me see him in a much different light. No character on LOST is just one dimensional! 🤩
Something curious about “Sawyer”: not only he goes by a pseudonym, but he almost always addresses others by made-up nicknames. Almost never uses their real names. (the opposite of Mr Lock, who ALWAYS uses people’s real names) Interesting contrast. I wonder if the reason he avoids proper names is somehow deeper than I ever figured out… 🤔🤷🏻♂️ LOST is great in the way it goes deep into characters personalities and back stories. Another great analysis on your part.
I can admit Sawyer past is sad but there was this quote I learned from a show. “ A tragic past doesn’t allow you to do anything you want “ and that’s how I feel about Sawyer most of the time. Currently, I understand him better but the things he does just make it harder for me to root for him. I just want him to actually try harder hours know but love your reaction!! Can’t wait for the next one
Hey Sam. 😸 Sun to the rescue! There is no need to rush though this show as much as I selfishly wish you would. It is much better to let it stew a bit if you can. Let the characters marinate in your mind for a while. Ultimately it will be a better experience for you that way (imo). Savor it!
A person with a little bit of humanity would feel guilty if they believe they did that to a kid's parents and ruined their life. Its not just about "incriminating".
You're actually better off not binging LOST. Having time to take things in and mull them over allows you to realise things and theorise better. Loving your reactions, by the way.
Thanks for another great reaction. I agree with others in the comments. Although not necessarily intentional, it’s inevitable that commenters will include spoilers. Any chance you have someone who can moderate and delete possible spoilers on your behalf?
Clinical studies confirmed the anti-inflammatory effects of Eucalyptus oil in patients with asthma, such as alleviating sinusitis symptoms and preventing the worsening of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. However, modern studies have shown it can actually cause spasms if you aren't actively having an attack.
Emilie de Ravin, the actress that plays Claire, is actually allergic to peanuts in real life. So, she really does hate peanut butter, unlike her character.
Sawyer hates himself. He makes himself the most loathsome character so that other people hate him as much as he hates himself. That is why he kicked Kate out of his tent. She was pitying him, and that hurts him more than all the torture did.
Carmen, this episode takes place on days 9 - 10 after the crash of Oceanic Flight #815. Do you have shipping feels towards Skate ( Sawyer & Kate ) at all or at this point are you ride or die for Jate ( Jack & Kate ) ? Charlie & Claire's fan ship names are PB&J - Peanut Butter & Jelly | Pregnant Babe & Junkie or The Moth & the Butterfly. In the original script, Boone's and Shannon's roles in the episode would have originally gone to two new characters, Richard, a man in his 50s, and his pretty wife, Marybeth.
Why should he have just said I don’t have the inhalers? If people were to go steaming into you, accusing you of something before even asking you if you did it etc.. wouldn’t you be a little pissed off? Why should someone have to prove innocent of something they didn’t do.. shouldn’t the accuser prove they are guilty? Bah.. bad morals
because he has been stealing other people's shit left and right and being an ass about it... That's why they went straight for him and that's why he has to deny it and why he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt... because the way he acts
@@zammmerjammer It didn't work out for anybody there, including (or specially) Sawyer... I don't get the point that you are trying to make; that he acted the proper way? that they had no reasons to dislike Sawyer and be sus of him?... I never said that what they did with the physical violence was morally correct or even that it was the best course of action, my point was entirely about the fact that Sawyer does NOT deserve the benefit of the doubt because of his own actions... he is an ass and borderline abusive towards everybody, that's why no one is going to believe him and why, in turn, they all believe the worse of him... Sawyer by not giving a straight and serious answer and by playing games, showed that he gave ZERO FUCKS about the life and well being of an innocent girl that was suffering... Now, is it likely that they would had believed Sawyer if he, in a very sober manner, told them he didn't have it? Maybe, that's up to debate, but the fact that he didn't and that he showed no empathy for this situation and ANY OTHER situation, that's what makes them view him the way they do... That's on Sawyer
Well, both Kate and Sawyer appear to have criminal backgrounds, so there's that. That might account for some attraction, not to mention, they're not bad looking people.
Trust me there is so much more to these characters. They are like an onion blossom. Peel 1 layer and there's another 1. I'm excited for you. You do pick up things rather quickly but this show is Topsy turvy
Its important to not judge these characters by modern standards. 10 plus years ago is a long time for society to grow morally. Sawyer extorting her for a kiss is very scummy but it wasnt seen quite as terrible as it is today. Its designed to make you not like him but not to the point where you lose all your empathy for him. You should have a much more visceral reaction towards Jack and Syid than him. Torture is way worse than extortion for a kiss.
First, I say this as someone who watched the show back 2004: this "standards have changed" thing is a load of absolute nonsense. Second, quit telling reactors how to feel or trying to direct their emotions.
@@WarKrieg as someone who also watched this show back then… no one batted an eye at sawyers sleaziness. Also I’m just giving my opinion. Same as you gave yours…there’s no difference.
LOL at "modern standards" This show wasn't aired during the time of the Antebellum South, ffs. Sawyer is a con artist. He's conning Kate to get a kiss. BUT con artists are also very good at reading people -- he knows full well Kate is as attracted to him as he is to her. He's tied to a tree. She could tell him to go to hell. But she chooses to kiss him... and she chooses to kiss him multiple times. The scene has both characters being exactly who they are -- messy messy messy.
The idea that somewhere out there, a kid thinks you're the reason that their parents are dead, is enough reason to feel that guilt.
He wouldn't have to have done the killing to feel that his part in it, was fuel for the fire.
It is OK taking your time through this show because so many small details have been missed by others that are key to understanding the mystery of LOST.
I really hope nobody spoils this show for you. I'm enjoying your reactions so much!!! Thank you for another great one
She really should have a moderator because from experience, commenters are absolutely terrible with shows like this. Perhaps even worse than direct plot spoilers, they casually push character spoilers all the time. They just can never seem to wait for the reactor's feelings about a character to evolve organically.
Maybe her patreons will tip her off. I remember BSG, it was bad for a spell but I don’t think she saw. If she reads those first and waits to read youtube comments she might have protection.
@@WarKrieg And given all the flashbacks/non-linear storytelling, I've seen people that mean well accidentally spoil things.
Take your time. Lost is like fine art. Just let it flow over you.
Sam is such a scene stealer 😂😻
Isn't he! 🥰
1:05 KITTY!!!
Carmen in chapter 1x6: Said and Sawyer are getting along better.
The creators of Lost 2 chapters later: 😂😂😂NO
I am, and forever will be baffled by the peanut butter and Australia line.
Such an amazing episode. It always surprises me, in general, how quickly people passed over this whole situation with Shannon. I mean, Sawyer was willing to let Shannon die, not a single bone of concern in his body for a girl who was suffering, he just wasted their time with his stupid games, which could have been spent looking for other solutions. And yes, I understand that he has a desire to suffer for everything that happened, but it has nothing to do with that point. Other people's actions are only a reflection of your own, you want to be treated like an animal, there is only so much endurance available until you are treated like an animal. It doesn't matter how morally good others are.
They wasted their own time. There was zero evidence that Sawyer had their luggage and the medication. That was purely Boone making assumptions. And they never just ASKED Sawyer if he had the inhalers. Plus, even when he denied it, they didn't believe him.
Sun was 100% the hero of this episode.
When watching this for the first time, I was totally disgusted by Sawyer… but the letter scene at the end made me see him in a much different light. No character on LOST is just one dimensional! 🤩
Something curious about “Sawyer”: not only he goes by a pseudonym, but he almost always addresses others by made-up nicknames. Almost never uses their real names.
(the opposite of Mr Lock, who ALWAYS uses people’s real names)
Interesting contrast.
I wonder if the reason he avoids proper names is somehow deeper than I ever figured out…
🤔🤷🏻♂️
LOST is great in the way it goes deep into characters personalities and back stories.
Another great analysis on your part.
I think it's an internal safety thing. I always saw it as a way of building another layer of walls, keeping his distance, not getting close.
I can admit Sawyer past is sad but there was this quote I learned from a show. “ A tragic past doesn’t allow you to do anything you want “ and that’s how I feel about Sawyer most of the time. Currently, I understand him better but the things he does just make it harder for me to root for him. I just want him to actually try harder hours know but love your reaction!! Can’t wait for the next one
Kate kinda likes Sawyer too. It’s love/hate. Bad boy Sawyer vs Good guy Jack
Hey Sam. 😸
Sun to the rescue!
There is no need to rush though this show as much as I selfishly wish you would. It is much better to let it stew a bit if you can. Let the characters marinate in your mind for a while. Ultimately it will be a better experience for you that way (imo).
Savor it!
A person with a little bit of humanity would feel guilty if they believe they did that to a kid's parents and ruined their life. Its not just about "incriminating".
You're actually better off not binging LOST. Having time to take things in and mull them over allows you to realise things and theorise better. Loving your reactions, by the way.
Thanks for another great reaction. I agree with others in the comments. Although not necessarily intentional, it’s inevitable that commenters will include spoilers. Any chance you have someone who can moderate and delete possible spoilers on your behalf?
Clinical studies confirmed the anti-inflammatory effects of Eucalyptus oil in patients with asthma, such as alleviating sinusitis symptoms and preventing the worsening of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
However, modern studies have shown it can actually cause spasms if you aren't actively having an attack.
your cat seems like a cool cat
Emilie de Ravin, the actress that plays Claire, is actually allergic to peanuts in real life. So, she really does hate peanut butter, unlike her character.
Sawyer hates himself. He makes himself the most loathsome character so that other people hate him as much as he hates himself. That is why he kicked Kate out of his tent. She was pitying him, and that hurts him more than all the torture did.
#pets4Sam or we riot!! LOL 😻
Oh trust me, he is SPOILED with pets every other minute of the day 😂
It takes more than a single episode to tell someone's backstory, right?
There's more to Sawyer that we'll see later.
But not yet.
Carmen, this episode takes place on days 9 - 10 after the crash of Oceanic Flight #815.
Do you have shipping feels towards Skate ( Sawyer & Kate ) at all or at this point are you ride or die for Jate ( Jack & Kate ) ?
Charlie & Claire's fan ship names are PB&J - Peanut Butter & Jelly | Pregnant Babe & Junkie or
The Moth & the Butterfly.
In the original script, Boone's and Shannon's roles in the episode would have originally gone to two new characters, Richard, a man in his 50s, and his pretty wife, Marybeth.
In episode 2, Sawyer said he was a complex guy. You see why.
Whose background haven't we seen yet? Sayid, Hurley, Claire, Rose.... who else? Shannon and Boone.
Michael/Walt
Didn't see the long con coming, did you?
🌴❤🌴
Why should he have just said I don’t have the inhalers? If people were to go steaming into you, accusing you of something before even asking you if you did it etc.. wouldn’t you be a little pissed off?
Why should someone have to prove innocent of something they didn’t do.. shouldn’t the accuser prove they are guilty?
Bah.. bad morals
Are you effin serious? lol
because he has been stealing other people's shit left and right and being an ass about it... That's why they went straight for him and that's why he has to deny it and why he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt... because the way he acts
@@Alewaxon And look how great that worked out.
@@zammmerjammer It didn't work out for anybody there, including (or specially) Sawyer... I don't get the point that you are trying to make; that he acted the proper way? that they had no reasons to dislike Sawyer and be sus of him?... I never said that what they did with the physical violence was morally correct or even that it was the best course of action, my point was entirely about the fact that Sawyer does NOT deserve the benefit of the doubt because of his own actions... he is an ass and borderline abusive towards everybody, that's why no one is going to believe him and why, in turn, they all believe the worse of him... Sawyer by not giving a straight and serious answer and by playing games, showed that he gave ZERO FUCKS about the life and well being of an innocent girl that was suffering... Now, is it likely that they would had believed Sawyer if he, in a very sober manner, told them he didn't have it? Maybe, that's up to debate, but the fact that he didn't and that he showed no empathy for this situation and ANY OTHER situation, that's what makes them view him the way they do... That's on Sawyer
Well, both Kate and Sawyer appear to have criminal backgrounds, so there's that. That might account for some attraction, not to mention, they're not bad looking people.
Plus she's got freckles. :-)
Trust me there is so much more to these characters. They are like an onion blossom. Peel 1 layer and there's another 1. I'm excited for you. You do pick up things rather quickly but this show is Topsy turvy
I'll kiss 💋you Sawyer 😘
attack on titan
Why do you make comments like that?
Its important to not judge these characters by modern standards. 10 plus years ago is a long time for society to grow morally. Sawyer extorting her for a kiss is very scummy but it wasnt seen quite as terrible as it is today. Its designed to make you not like him but not to the point where you lose all your empathy for him. You should have a much more visceral reaction towards Jack and Syid than him. Torture is way worse than extortion for a kiss.
First, I say this as someone who watched the show back 2004: this "standards have changed" thing is a load of absolute nonsense. Second, quit telling reactors how to feel or trying to direct their emotions.
Also, "modern standards" tend to vary tremendously by region and subculture.
@@WarKrieg as someone who also watched this show back then… no one batted an eye at sawyers sleaziness. Also I’m just giving my opinion. Same as you gave yours…there’s no difference.
@@richardsteiner8992 any culture that views extorting for a kiss as worse than than torture is wild
LOL at "modern standards"
This show wasn't aired during the time of the Antebellum South, ffs.
Sawyer is a con artist. He's conning Kate to get a kiss. BUT con artists are also very good at reading people -- he knows full well Kate is as attracted to him as he is to her.
He's tied to a tree. She could tell him to go to hell. But she chooses to kiss him... and she chooses to kiss him multiple times.
The scene has both characters being exactly who they are -- messy messy messy.
Sawyer is dumb and I don't feel any sympathy for him 😄 but it's admirable that many do