What is the Arch Rivalry? Missouri vs. Illinois and Braggin' Rights
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- When it comes to interconference rivalries, especially between the Big 10 and SEC, not many stick out. Hardwood battles like Kentucky / Indiana may seem to be the most obvious, as well as potential duels between teams like Alabama and Ohio State earning postseason football ire. But one rivalry between two geographically similar programs has seemed to have slipped through the cracks: that would be the Arch Rivalry between the Missouri Tigers and the Illinois Fighting Illini, most often associated with the metro area that connects them, St. Louis.
But, again, this game steeped in middle-America seems to have slipped through the cracks almost completely. In this video, I'll go through the history of this game quickly, focusing on the football side of things, to try to determine why a game like this doesn't have the same level of rivalry-ness as a game like Missouri's Border War with Kansas or Illinois' duel with Northwestern for the Land of Lincoln trophy. - Спорт
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As someone who lives near Champaign I can definitely say this rivalry is cared about, however it’s definitely more in the line of something like K-State vs ISU. Sure there’s some dislike but not on the same level as some of the other rivalries the school has. However, it definitely gets pretty heated in Basketball though.
Was far better back in the day when they played football every year
I wish there were more rivalries like this that appreciate the regionality and the simple things of college football...
Clemson vs UGA is kind of similar
Funny enough I discovered this rivalry when I was playing ncaa14 dynasty mode 😂 and go mizzou tiger 🐯
As an Illinois fan, I was pleasantly surprised that you made a video about this. Since the last time Illinois played Mizzou in football, I've graduated from Illinois and married a St Louis girl, so I'm very excited to have this rivalry coming back in 2026.
I do think this will become bigger, as the game will act as a B1G vs. SEC game, one of the few Power 2 rivalries
great video as always! Really loved your commentary on modern writing by using examples from the Missouri newspaper in 1896. Thought the bit about ground breaking events in Illinois and a comparison to an earthquake that took place in the same year was really well down and shows just how time and effort you put into making these videos. Cant wait to see what future videos will hold, keep up the great work!
Thank you! I've always been a bit of a weather guy so any opportunity I can get to reference a severe weather event I'll take
St. Louisan Illini fan here, I actually went to the first Arch Rivalry game at The Dome.
When it comes to football, Mizzou & Illinois are often not that competitive, and seldom competitive at the same time, so it often felt like they tried to make it a thing through marketing than a real rivalry. But the *reason* they’ve tried so hard to make it a football thing is because on the basketball court, it IS a real rivalry. The Bragging Rights game is the single biggest basketball event in St. Louis every year, even more than the MVC tournament or a usually competitive mid-major SLU program. Personally I’d consider Mizzou to be Illinois’ biggest basketball rival (sorry Indiana, Iowa, & Northwestern), and since Mizzou and Kansas basically don’t play anymore, I’d beat more than a few Tigers fans might think similarly. If the Arch Rivalry ever matched the Bragging Rights game, it’d be a massive boost for both programs in the long run.
Yeah I went to maybe the 2nd or 3rd STL game and it was a FUN game! Me and a couple buddies went and the dome was loud and packed... Def enjoyed myself. That was a year both schools had good teams but MU was a bit better at the time. It was glad to hear them bring the game back, especially with all the SEC / BIG 10 stuff.. def will add another wrinkle to that conversation lol...
Media needs to being back flowery descriptions in sports coverage
Great video! I love hearing about these smaller rivalries!
An interesting video would be why some teams refuse to play each other. Such as Arkansas refusal to schedule OU, or Bama not playing Troy or UAB.
Man growing up less than 30 mins from Columbia I’ve always been a mizzou fan and this was such a fun rivalry. Been to a basketball game between but not a football game
Illinois alum from the STL area here. You had a lot of great points, and I’d consider Mizzou our biggest rival in hoops, though I’ve found that depends on where you live in the state.
One point you didn’t touch on regarding football is how fertile the recruiting area is; East St. Louis is historically one of the best HS programs in the country, with a lot of other nearby suburbs producing talent on this side of the river. Since Mizzou’s moved to the SEC, they’ve locked the metro-east down, along with STL proper for the most part.
There’s a lot of kids that’d be paying attention to a rejuvenated Braggin Rights in football in what’s become a bit of a hotbed over the past decade or so. Either way, great video and thanks for giving it some attention!
"When it comes to interconference rivalries, especially between the Big 10 and SEC, not many stick out."
Well, that's going to chance when the "Big 2" conferences offcial break away from the NCAA and only have each other for out-of-conference and post-season play
As a non-Mizzou fan, but as a Missourian who has many friends who are, Illinois was always the second rival to KU. They've always given off the "oh yeah, those guys" vibe. Speaking of Illinois, you should take a look at the directional schools in the state and how they're allegedly connected by having castles on campus! Some pretty cool sports history there!
Wish I could press like 1000 times for you man. You make some great videos with some great backstory behind each topic you talk about in college football. Whatever it is you are striving to do career wise I hope it blows up for you. The quality speaks for itself. Great stuff my man!
As a current resident of St. Louis (K-State alum and big time fan), I had never given any thought to the rivalry or had ever heard either name for it. As far as the population here goes, I think I only know a single UI alum/fan, way more Mizzou folks. I honestly know more people from SIUE, UMSL, and Missouri S&T than UI. But that could also be an employment industry bias.
Great video, like usual the editing is smooth and the subject that's barely worth a few words is turned into an engaging masterpiece. As a fan from the ACC, your map of the SEC at 9:50 is a bit futuristic, hopefully won't happen but probably will. Keep up the good work!
This was a great video. Keep up the rivalry videos.
I love these rivalry videos, especially the more obscure ones. I would recommend Minnesota-w*consin, or Purdue-Iowa
Or Minnesota-Iowa
Or Minnesota-Michigan
Or Minnesota-Nebraska
Or Minnesota-Penn State
@@CanyonBerry yes... we have a lot of rivalries
@@theEWDSDS and.. all of them are trophy games.
@@CanyonBerry yep. I wonder if we have the most rivalries, because the stuff Texas has I wouldn't consider rivals...
I think the SEC using Mizzou, who has always felt like a bit of an outcast in the conference, as their statement for superiority between them and the Big 10 is really cool
You should do a video on Ohio State vs Illinois rivalry,one of the few forgotten trophy games!
Illibuck!
surprisingly ohio state’s only trophy game
I didn’t know the Arch Rivalry existed before this video, but let me tell you, I’m glad I checked this one out. Very interesting and entertaining video by Lukas, as always. 👍👍 However, I gotta be honest. I think Missouri should be in the Big Ten.
When Missouri joined the SEC, I seriously questioned the move, and I still do today. Missouri, in my opinion, is not a Southern state. Missouri is more geographically aligned with the Big Ten. Now, I’ll grant you that Missouri wouldn’t enjoy getting ganged up on by both Ohio State and Michigan. But starting in 2024, Missouri is gonna get pushed around by Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, Florida, Texas A&M…you get the idea.
Kind of sounds like the “Rocky Mountains Rivalry”
I watched the basketball arch rivalry game earlier this cbb season
I just like border rivalry games in general especially when it's neutral site in some occasions
Didn't know it was coming back
I grew up going to Mizzou games and in my experience Mizzou definitely doesn’t like Illinois
i wish we added missouri instead of rutgers to the big ten. it just makes more sense.
Nice Video didn't know theses two were rivals till now lol
Texan illinois fan here, Mizzou has always felt like a team that should be in the big 10. Also, if they can, please keep being mid in hoops. it's all we got.
To me border and cross town rivalries are what make college football/basketball better
I like seeing neutral site games like this one and others
I live in the #DMV and I've seen UMD G'Town play twice in my entire life and I believe that should be a thing every year
not really mentioned aspect, but it's a pretty big basketball rivalry as well
We aren’t eating. We are feasting.
You could probably do the Missouri - Nebraska rivalry as another game that seems to have been forgotten.
Kansas vs k state video when?
Illinois fan. The Illini fans definitely care about it, but football has always been more in the background. While an Illini fan always wants to see Mizzou lose, football just isn’t as intense.
Basketball, on the other hand, there is a lot of hatred there. Braggin’ Rights is one of the biggest games of the year for each team, and records get thrown out the window. They will fight like dogs to beat each other. They also fight over recruits (Jeremiah Tillmon, Mark Smith) and even coaches (Counzo Martin).
Basketball is what makes this a rivalry and keeps it living on.
What editing software do you use?
the animations are made in powerpoint, and everything else is compiled through DaVinci pro
As a Mizzou fan, there are the obvious rivals. Arkansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska the little school to the west, but I think if you were to ask a majority of Mizzou fans. They would say that they hate Kentucky and Tennessee more than Illinois. We don't have that mutual dislike of each other. In fact we much of ourselves in each other. Two flyover states that have bigger rivals to fight in our own conferences. Similar to Mizzou and K-State.
Hey Dalukes, why does the SEC map show Virginia, Clemson, FSU, and UNC as members?
I just discovered this rivalry
What Illinois logo is that and why are they trying to look like Purdue
i had no idea it existed- fsu fan
Can you please talk about the 2007 college football season?
Illinois and Mizzou are just very different schools culturally and academically so it is hard for the rivalry to thrive.
9:51 Normally I would agree with this sentiment; however, having gone to college in South Dakota, my dislike of the SEC is pushed aside by my conviction to root for the two SEC football coaches with South Dakota ties: Kalen DeBoer @ Alabama & Josh Heupel @ Tennessee.
9:47 wait hold up what SEC is that? 😂🤣😂
Its a 1st draft preview of the SEC after the ACC falls. Get used to it. Welcome to the SEC or Enjoy the Big 10 or 12.....whichever one fits.
As a Mizzou fan, I look at it as a one (soon to be two) day a year rivalry. On the day the game is played I desperately want to win that game because of the bragging rights that comes with it. But I don't root agaisnt Illinois in any random game against a big 10 opponent just because they are Illinois. Where for example I hope kansas loses every game they play for the rest of time, because $%#@ kansas
As an Illini fan, I feel the exact same way.
Great video! I-L-L
Illinois has to become good for it to be a rivalry in football
what happend to the wichita state football video?
still cookin'
A few years ago, I saw someone wearing a t-shirt: on the front was “Creighton University Football”
& on the back was “Still Undefeated”.
I laughed SO HARD when I saw that!
I get a kick out of @dalukes adding UNC/Virginia/Clemson/FSU to the SEC for us already....it's bound to happen
Yeeeee Haw!!!!
Who?
I've only ever heard this called "Braggin Rights".... I-L-L
At 9:48, your map of SEC schools includes FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Virginia! Hmmm...
apple cup next !
Lame ass rivalry. KU vs Mizzou matters so much more. Illinois sucks at everything so they don’t even have any real rivals.
Nobody cares about illinois football