Greg did mention to Kendall that he made copies of a few key documents in the season 1 finale when Kendall was going around looking for drugs and Kendall called him a "Machiavellian f*ck". That's how Kendall knew Greg had receipts. Also, this was a nice full-circle moment to episode 1 of this season where Kendall was pulled out of rehab to go on TV and read the prepared statement from his father about why he pulled out of the deal with Sandy and Stewie. This time, he refused to play along. Tearing up the paper at the end was a nice touch.
Throughout the whole season, Logan has denied any knowledge or involvement the cruises stuff. Him telling Kendall that the waiter was “no real person involved” was the final mail in the coffin that shows us he was absolutely involved. This shows subtle storytelling is so good
It was already clear that Logan knew about it all in his convo with Rhea in the previous episode. The point of him saying "No real person involved" in this episode is to cement in Kendall's mind that his father is an evil person that needs to be stopped. Kendall feels insane guilt about what happened to the waiter, and to see it so nonchalantly dismissed the same way the cruise victims were really affected him. It was this in addition to Logan telling him that he could never become CEO because he's "not a killer" that caused Kendall's decision to turn against his father.
Logan wanted it to be him and he knew that ken is the only one who would to it by saying "you are no killer" just Like He did in season 1 at the start when kendall should have taken over he triggered his ego Just look at Logan's smile at the end
hearing tom say he wonders if the sad he would be without shiv would be less than the sad he is with her was one of the key light bulb moments for me to get out of a bad relationship. Yes, i'd be sad, but I was sad in it too. And I only realised that after hearing it said to me.
@@kasperholm2214 The COVID pandemic started between season 2 and 3. Season 3 was delayed because of the pandemics and it affected the production a lot, especially the filming. In Season 3, especially towards the start, there are fewer crowd scenes and more scenes that are characters talking over the phone. The shots of the crowd in the shareholder meeting episode had to be composited rather than using an actual crowd of extras.
I love the fact that Stewy is low-key like, arguably the smartest and most capable person through the whole show's run, even after we're first introduced to him as just Ken's ultra-wealthy drug buddy/college roommate.
Unlike Ken, Stewie doesn't let emotions and personal ties cloud his business brain. Although Logan once dismissively referred to him as "My son's college drinking buddy", he clearly respects Stewie and probably wishes Ken were more like him.
@@smichelle65this is such a common misunderstanding of decision making. Having emotions doesn’t inherently lead to misjudgment it’s an important piece that is inevitable whether a person shows it or not. The person who pretends they have eliminated emotions usually are unable to make the best decisions/problem solves. It’s the ones who understand their emotions, the value and how to use them are the best at making decisions.
he also seems to think Kendall is poor or something? like he said "kendall take 100 mill and live your life" Do they not realize Kendal has literally half a bill worth of stocks in waystar? like dude is well off already
cant have your cake and eat it too means you can't both have your cake and also have eaten it. you get one or the other. if you eat the cake you dont have it anymore.
They get that, the bit they dislike about the expression is that they don't see the *point* in having the cake. The purpose of cake is to be eaten, it kind of sucks as just decor.
The way Logan seems quite like he’s actually proud of kendall for finally being a “killer” at the end of the episode it’s bizarre but great at the same time
@@barryaran6147or season 4. Let’s be real, love or hate season 4, for all it’s great moments it left me feeling “well that was pointless” regardless of the intent I don’t like when fiction does that, well executed or not.
@@jcnom6606 I get what you mean, but at least in S4 it seemed like the writers actually knew where they wanted to go with the Kendall's character and his place in the story. In S3 it seemed like they had no idea what to do with the "war" plot they set up in S2. We never see Kendall have a moment where it can be believed that he might actually win against Logan. Even after Waystar gets raided by the DOJ, it gets revealed that nothing came from it. From the very first episode we see him act reckless and not listen to the very same people he hired. And then Kendall fires his attorney because the story needed him to. Sure, you can argue that it's within his character to act like this, but I was hoping for some change in an effort to prove his father wrong. Because ultimately, all we got was a repeat of S1, with new insights on his character. But no real development.
People tend to not really get Shiv and her way of thinking. As a woman tho i completely get her on some points. During the table scene, she doesnt use her emotions : she cant say she doesnt WANT Tom to go to prison, she HAS to think critically and logically bc as a woman in a male dominated field, any emotion is taken as irrationnality. She has to think as much as she can in "logical manners", Tom makes sense on many points, she cannot deny that bc then her opinion would be put aside as the opinion of woman, of a wife. And being able to sit in the table and express her opinion is what she wants above all. Its shitty for Tom, but i get her when she thinks she doesnt operate on the same surface as her brothers. I love her character, i love Tom as well so i get how they both felt in that scene. But she does agree pretty fast lol,
They do get that. Everyone gets that. Everything you said is the most obvious thing and evidently clear when she says that. But what everyones point is, that you wouldn't and shouldnt as a spouse, risk or push your partner under the bus no matter what. Here she chose to go against Tom just to look logical. Which isnt something worth doing in a marriage. Nothing is above your relationship. Not being seen weak, nor being seen as a biased wife, or whatever. The fact that she wants to "express her opinion at the table above *all*" including her relationship with Tom, is enough a reason for it to be critisized. Its also Intentional writing that describes her character among all the others in the show. They care about power position and money more than they do for relationships and feelings. Which is the biggest reason why the show finale is shocking at first, but satisfying because they all got what they deserved. they are all spoiled narcissistic brats. Shiv most of all
Laird doesn't work for Waystar Royco - he's an outside banker who was trying to broker a deal for Logan, and had the deal gone through, he would have gotten a massive commission ($100M or so) on the deal. In any event, he never could have been the blood sacrifice, because he had no job or direct involvement with Waystar.
Came here to make comment on his role. He was obviously biased as well. It was also one of those blimps where Roman is competent. He is educated and knowledgeable in some degree
awesome episode. i would love for the normies to also include reacting to the "controlling the narrative" / inside the episodes for these, they're really quite excellent and do a great job providing insight to complement your discussions!
I think he THINKS he loves her, but i think he loves the power and everything that comes with being with her and would do anything to keep that relationship that keeps that power.
Bro I swear the only thing more exciting than watching this series for the first time is watching you guys watch it for the first time lol this is why you guys are pushing a mil subs, cause I feel like I'm just watching the homies react to some top tier tv.
Also, the reason why none of the children didn't readily take the money other than Connor when trying to decide who would take the fall is that they don't value the money anymore; its just money to them now, and they're used to it, it aight they've seen that much before. They want the power, CEO of Waystar Royco... or does being anointed the CEO means that their dad loves them and is proud of them?
The expression “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” used to be “you can’t eat your cake and have it too” which reads much more comprehensively. Somehow this got flipped around over the decades to what you see today.
The episode that Tom grew some nuts, the rise of Tom! Ken just can’t catch a break he keeps getting screwed over by his dad. Would he still be such a screw up if he didn’t have to fight his own dad everyday?
I truely think Logan legit sacrificed himself. He absolutely knew that Kendall would ask him if his father things if he has it to be CEO and with saying "you're no killer" Logan a 100% knew ken would kill him. Just look at Logan's smile. He was so proud
24:25 FINALLY, SOMEONE SAYS WHAT'VE ALWAYS BEEN THINKING! As a non-native english speaker, it really doesn't make sense to me. Like why would I want the cake, if I can't eat it? What's the point? If I can't eat it, then I don't want the cake anyway
This was a good finale, but Kendall won't last in a leadership role. If the drugs don't get to him, the stress will. If the stress doesn't get to him, someone will outplay him.
i think ken realize two things when logan told him to get sacrificed. 1) logan is truly a bad person 2) he would never reveal the accident cause it's just "no real person involved"
People always forget that in the end of this ep, Shiv begged her dad to save Tom. It's just a weird thing that people always misremember when discussing things.
Crazy episode....K did what he had to do...Logan shows again how much he doesnt care about anyone..he wud throw his own mother to the sharks before himself..
Would love if you would react to the little post episode clips after the episode is concluded, the cast and the directors/writers really have some interesting things to say.
Normies are no different than other fans, so much venom for Shiv, while ignoring Logan’s de facto open marriages. Wow wonder where she learned it from? Roman has other sexual issues, Conor is Conor, and if I had to guess, Kendall in his druggy times cheated, but perhaps not. Just saying three of the four not good at relationships
Favorite episode of the show. You're right, it's like a murder mystery but the mystery isn't who the killer is but who the victim will be. Rips your heart out with Kendall only for him to turn the tables with the greatest "But" imaginable.
Is Tom secretly an alpha? Remember that he offered to be a blood sacrifice before. He looked scared in the discussion table when his name was put forward and tried to shift the focus on him. But in his defense, so did everybody whose names were spoken. Later on, his main gripe with this situation was how Shiv treated him. He finally spoke his mind to her. And then the chicken scene with Logan, he actually never rescinded his offer to be a blood sacrifice. He just gave Logan a taste of his medicine, "boar on the floor" was probably on his mind, too. Overall, this seemed like a big win for him. Obviously, we know how the show ends but this was interesting to rewatch with you guys.
i think shiv DOES love tom, but sometimes love doesn't trump how you were raised/trauma. the way she (and all the roy kids) were raised is on competition and "making plays" and putting each other down, so when it comes to tom and her marriage, that's exactly how she behaves. whenever she feels bested by her father/family, she takes it out on tom to try and gain back some kind of control. i support women's rights AND women's wrongs! i
FINALE TIME!!! What did you think of this season?
Truly remarkable build up
It was good
Favourite season for me
29:43 y'all don't know the Judas kiss huh?
One of the greatest episodes
Pat's "I'm so poor" is the most relatable he's ever been.
1st time something came out of Pat's mouth that I agree with!!!
Greg did mention to Kendall that he made copies of a few key documents in the season 1 finale when Kendall was going around looking for drugs and Kendall called him a "Machiavellian f*ck". That's how Kendall knew Greg had receipts.
Also, this was a nice full-circle moment to episode 1 of this season where Kendall was pulled out of rehab to go on TV and read the prepared statement from his father about why he pulled out of the deal with Sandy and Stewie. This time, he refused to play along. Tearing up the paper at the end was a nice touch.
“No real person involved”
That’s when Kendall knew his father better than Roman and Shiv could ever hope to
Throughout the whole season, Logan has denied any knowledge or involvement the cruises stuff. Him telling Kendall that the waiter was “no real person involved” was the final mail in the coffin that shows us he was absolutely involved. This shows subtle storytelling is so good
It was already clear that Logan knew about it all in his convo with Rhea in the previous episode.
The point of him saying "No real person involved" in this episode is to cement in Kendall's mind that his father is an evil person that needs to be stopped. Kendall feels insane guilt about what happened to the waiter, and to see it so nonchalantly dismissed the same way the cruise victims were really affected him. It was this in addition to Logan telling him that he could never become CEO because he's "not a killer" that caused Kendall's decision to turn against his father.
There is another hint that might suggest that he also did similar things.
Such a great catch
Logan wanted it to be him and he knew that ken is the only one who would to it by saying "you are no killer" just Like He did in season 1 at the start when kendall should have taken over he triggered his ego
Just look at Logan's smile at the end
“What the fuck ☹️….. thank you Logan…….. THANK YOU FOR THE CHICKEN “ then Tom just walks away like the terminator 😂🤣
My favourite episode! Team Ken we are so back!
Also my personal favourite season, Season 3 is on the way!
Pool on a yacht. For when you bought a thing to keep you out of the water, but you still want to get in the water, just not THAT water
Because there are poors in THAT water
Look up the Bezos superyacht.
pool water is different from salt water
Greg testifying before congress 😂🤣
"Thank you sir.... so I shall" 😅
"Every season finale these three have a genuine sibling moment together"
Sobbing. If you know you know.
The season 4 finale reaction is going to be INSANE
@@Sadkenny253 I'm actually excited for "Connor's Wedding"
@@mimirants7935 That too. "All The Bells Say" is gonna be amazing as well.
hearing tom say he wonders if the sad he would be without shiv would be less than the sad he is with her was one of the key light bulb moments for me to get out of a bad relationship. Yes, i'd be sad, but I was sad in it too. And I only realised that after hearing it said to me.
But he covets status and stuff.
Imagine watching that live and then having to wait 2 full years for the start of Season 3. Brutal.
Man, I didn’t know that, that’s crazy! What took them so long, did season 3 have to be approved, and it took a while?!
@@kasperholm2214 The COVID pandemic started between season 2 and 3. Season 3 was delayed because of the pandemics and it affected the production a lot, especially the filming. In Season 3, especially towards the start, there are fewer crowd scenes and more scenes that are characters talking over the phone. The shots of the crowd in the shareholder meeting episode had to be composited rather than using an actual crowd of extras.
@@JayCyrZak Oh that makes sense, I forgot this show came out in like 2018, thanks for the tidbits.
I did. It fucking sucked lol
I love the fact that Stewy is low-key like, arguably the smartest and most capable person through the whole show's run, even after we're first introduced to him as just Ken's ultra-wealthy drug buddy/college roommate.
Unlike Ken, Stewie doesn't let emotions and personal ties cloud his business brain. Although Logan once dismissively referred to him as "My son's college drinking buddy", he clearly respects Stewie and probably wishes Ken were more like him.
@@smichelle65this is such a common misunderstanding of decision making. Having emotions doesn’t inherently lead to misjudgment it’s an important piece that is inevitable whether a person shows it or not. The person who pretends they have eliminated emotions usually are unable to make the best decisions/problem solves. It’s the ones who understand their emotions, the value and how to use them are the best at making decisions.
This entire episode is an extended "its so over" until the last 5 minutes hit you with the "WE ARE SO BACK"
Minor spoiler warning, but wow Suraj made a great point about the bonding scenes in every finale! I never noticed before
I know right! That just blew my mind
Neither did I; the lightbulb went on in my head! And each bonding moment is more devastating than the last.
Yeah, but the last one didn't go so well.. 😉
@@Whroopeck SPOILER
It did. Season 4 had the 3 in the pool deciding to let Kendall do the CEO thing
@@rexibhazoboa7097mate, it’s basic manners not to throw specific spoilers to a future episode below a reaction
I hate to do it, but I have to give it to Pat for calling what Kendall's move was gonna be
A Normies Sopranos reaction would be epic!!!
Agreed. Would have to be the right team of reactors though for it to be something special
Yes, this please
one thing this show has revealed is that pat would do literally anything for money lol
Most people probably would if the $ was in front of their face. Easy to say no when it’s hypothetical or they don’t trust the money will come.
he also seems to think Kendall is poor or something? like he said "kendall take 100 mill and live your life" Do they not realize Kendal has literally half a bill worth of stocks in waystar? like dude is well off already
That "But" changed the whole landscape of the show.
I think the "sad I get by being with you" speech is my favorite of the whole show.
A "Barry" reaction from The Normies would be very entertaining.
YES, Barry!!!
Yeeees
i really hope they will
cant have your cake and eat it too means you can't both have your cake and also have eaten it. you get one or the other. if you eat the cake you dont have it anymore.
Chad with the wisdom like always
Is it always Chad? 😆 real question
They get that, the bit they dislike about the expression is that they don't see the *point* in having the cake. The purpose of cake is to be eaten, it kind of sucks as just decor.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 They are fun, but can’t always give them benefit of the doubt. Perhaps here you are right
Well like Miles Morales says, you can if you get 2 cakes
The way Logan seems quite like he’s actually proud of kendall for finally being a “killer” at the end of the episode it’s bizarre but great at the same time
Shakespearean storytelling
Probably my favorite Kendall moment
Too bad it barely amounted to anything in Season 3.
@@barryaran6147 you dont think this comment could be a spoiler? why not delete it bro.
@@barryaran6147or season 4. Let’s be real, love or hate season 4, for all it’s great moments it left me feeling “well that was pointless” regardless of the intent I don’t like when fiction does that, well executed or not.
@@jcnom6606 I get what you mean, but at least in S4 it seemed like the writers actually knew where they wanted to go with the Kendall's character and his place in the story.
In S3 it seemed like they had no idea what to do with the "war" plot they set up in S2. We never see Kendall have a moment where it can be believed that he might actually win against Logan. Even after Waystar gets raided by the DOJ, it gets revealed that nothing came from it. From the very first episode we see him act reckless and not listen to the very same people he hired. And then Kendall fires his attorney because the story needed him to. Sure, you can argue that it's within his character to act like this, but I was hoping for some change in an effort to prove his father wrong. Because ultimately, all we got was a repeat of S1, with new insights on his character. But no real development.
People tend to not really get Shiv and her way of thinking. As a woman tho i completely get her on some points. During the table scene, she doesnt use her emotions : she cant say she doesnt WANT Tom to go to prison, she HAS to think critically and logically bc as a woman in a male dominated field, any emotion is taken as irrationnality. She has to think as much as she can in "logical manners", Tom makes sense on many points, she cannot deny that bc then her opinion would be put aside as the opinion of woman, of a wife. And being able to sit in the table and express her opinion is what she wants above all. Its shitty for Tom, but i get her when she thinks she doesnt operate on the same surface as her brothers. I love her character, i love Tom as well so i get how they both felt in that scene. But she does agree pretty fast lol,
Spot on
Absolutely 100% correct.
exactly!
thank you!
They do get that. Everyone gets that. Everything you said is the most obvious thing and evidently clear when she says that. But what everyones point is, that you wouldn't and shouldnt as a spouse, risk or push your partner under the bus no matter what. Here she chose to go against Tom just to look logical. Which isnt something worth doing in a marriage. Nothing is above your relationship. Not being seen weak, nor being seen as a biased wife, or whatever. The fact that she wants to "express her opinion at the table above *all*" including her relationship with Tom, is enough a reason for it to be critisized. Its also Intentional writing that describes her character among all the others in the show. They care about power position and money more than they do for relationships and feelings. Which is the biggest reason why the show finale is shocking at first, but satisfying because they all got what they deserved. they are all spoiled narcissistic brats. Shiv most of all
This was easily one of my favourite episodes of the show. It used to be my favourite, but then, you know which episode topped it...
cant wait to see their reaction
just curious, I'm half-way through season 3. What episode and season are you referring?
@@vaginalarthritis1753 probably 3x9 or 4x3, even 4x10 maybe
@@anastasiiaiurkova8897 same
Laird doesn't work for Waystar Royco - he's an outside banker who was trying to broker a deal for Logan, and had the deal gone through, he would have gotten a massive commission ($100M or so) on the deal. In any event, he never could have been the blood sacrifice, because he had no job or direct involvement with Waystar.
Came here to make comment on his role. He was obviously biased as well. It was also one of those blimps where Roman is competent. He is educated and knowledgeable in some degree
“This is the day, his reign ends” is one of the coldest lines I’ve ever heard is a TV show
Barry would be an awesome hbo show,fast-paced,brutal,hilarious and only 32 episodes.
Barry is so overrated.
@@gibsonmunyi7225 you're overrated
awesome episode. i would love for the normies to also include reacting to the "controlling the narrative" / inside the episodes for these, they're really quite excellent and do a great job providing insight to complement your discussions!
The episode that truly got Jeremy Strong the emmy. What an actor, i dont want to be greedy but i truly think he deserved a second one for s3!
Best episode of the whole series.
Remember Tom wouldn't actually gain anything from the divorce, he signed a prenup without reading it.
He actually just loves her i think
But his lawyer "mom" read it, and Shiv said they would look it over because she told Tom he was getting f'ed over. At least I thought Shiv said that.
Nah he went over it in detail with his lawyer mum.
I think he THINKS he loves her, but i think he loves the power and everything that comes with being with her and would do anything to keep that relationship that keeps that power.
Loves her yes, it loves all she comes with more, status, power, ultra wealth
your reactions to succession are too good we need 2 episodes a week guys
Bro I swear the only thing more exciting than watching this series for the first time is watching you guys watch it for the first time lol this is why you guys are pushing a mil subs, cause I feel like I'm just watching the homies react to some top tier tv.
Also, the reason why none of the children didn't readily take the money other than Connor when trying to decide who would take the fall is that they don't value the money anymore; its just money to them now, and they're used to it, it aight they've seen that much before. They want the power, CEO of Waystar Royco... or does being anointed the CEO means that their dad loves them and is proud of them?
19 weeks of you guys inching towards the series finale is gonna be pure torture!
No, Chris, you're wrong. Corporate world is still a wild West. If you have money, nothing happens to you
And Ken could absolutely still be a ceo after a conviction or even jail time.
Please watch THE BEAR
I’ve seen the entire series but love yalls expressions and reviews. Hope the next season starts next Sunday! Woop! ❤
The expression “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” used to be “you can’t eat your cake and have it too” which reads much more comprehensively. Somehow this got flipped around over the decades to what you see today.
they caught the Unabomber because of this
@@mathiaswalker350 That’s interesting, didn’t know that.
Barry would be the best for the normies.
The blend of drama & comedy would land well with this group
Some HBO suggestions - if you haven't already watched. Deadwood, Barry, Big Little Lies, The White Lotus, Hacks
The episode that Tom grew some nuts, the rise of Tom!
Ken just can’t catch a break he keeps getting screwed over by his dad. Would he still be such a screw up if he didn’t have to fight his own dad everyday?
Barry should be the next show
Correct
Dont forget that , Greg told ken that he had the documents back at Tom and shiv wedding..
I freaking love Connor and Willa
13:07 Rana with the perfect Tarzan impression 👏
Unrelated but Kendall looked fantastic in this finale.
I truely think Logan legit sacrificed himself. He absolutely knew that Kendall would ask him if his father things if he has it to be CEO and with saying "you're no killer" Logan a 100% knew ken would kill him. Just look at Logan's smile. He was so proud
If you want to fill the HBO slot, then you better enjoy some damn "Deadwood".
Ugh, I can't believe y'all babbled over the "Tom with Greg sprinkles" line, and Connor calling them "Elmo and Big Bird"! 😅
24:25 FINALLY, SOMEONE SAYS WHAT'VE ALWAYS BEEN THINKING! As a non-native english speaker, it really doesn't make sense to me. Like why would I want the cake, if I can't eat it? What's the point? If I can't eat it, then I don't want the cake anyway
This was like my favourite episode of the show.
SEVERANCE!!!!
SEVERANCE!!!!!
Barry for the next HBO spot after this?
This is the best episode until THAT episode. So effing good
Wholesale bankers leaving the room can always be the most brutal and honest, as the gravy train runs dry for them.
Y'all gotta remember Tom said he'd take the Roy last name if she wanted him too...he been about this families money
@29.44 as soon as I saw that I knew he would turn. The judas kiss.
I'll say this, without spoilers....remember that chicken scene with Tom.
Abused people who lack self awareness/introspection typically become abusers. Shiv is a great example.
This was a good finale, but Kendall won't last in a leadership role. If the drugs don't get to him, the stress will. If the stress doesn't get to him, someone will outplay him.
i think ken realize two things when logan told him to get sacrificed. 1) logan is truly a bad person 2) he would never reveal the accident cause it's just "no real person involved"
People always forget that in the end of this ep, Shiv begged her dad to save Tom. It's just a weird thing that people always misremember when discussing things.
13:12 that reaction is hilarious
God bless Jesse Armstrong. Here in the UK he's a major deal. You guys should definitely watch Peep Show 😄
Watch The Bear after succession
Quite possibly my all time favorite episode of television, absolutely masterful
It's interesting watching this after what recently happened at Disney.
If you need another HBO show that’s in the same vein as this, you should 100 PERCENT watch VEEP
BEST EPISODE OF LIFE
HES BACK
I envy those who didn't have to wait 3 years after this episode to watch the next one
Being poor isn’t just about money
The Newsroom should take your HBO slot
You know what a prenup is right...
People really underestimate my boy Pat's deduction skills...he doesn't get enough credit
Tbf Pat was on fire this episode!
"What does provisions mean?"
True he is a mixed bag
16:22 10/10 editing lol
Did Pat say Ken should ask for 100 mil for being the sacrifice? Dude, he is still in the family worth billions. 100mil is a side project
You guys should check out the white lotus
For hbo shows they could do the new show coming out called the regime about the uk or tokyo vice
THE BEAR guys , obviously THE BEAR guys Next Reaction Should be THE BEAR.
Crazy episode....K did what he had to do...Logan shows again how much he doesnt care about anyone..he wud throw his own mother to the sharks before himself..
Barry
Y'all need to watch Deadwood!
Have not looked, but I bet not many reactors do this show. Like I only know of one that is or did react to Gilmore Girls.
Kenny has my respect for this
Logan: You're not a killer
Kendall: (I guess Vaulter killed itself then?)
Would love if you would react to the little post episode clips after the episode is concluded, the cast and the directors/writers really have some interesting things to say.
lol loved Rana this episode
Can you guys watch the Knick? Probably the best HBO max show
yes. please do entourage when you are done with succession.
Normies are no different than other fans, so much venom for Shiv, while ignoring Logan’s de facto open marriages. Wow wonder where she learned it from? Roman has other sexual issues, Conor is Conor, and if I had to guess, Kendall in his druggy times cheated, but perhaps not. Just saying three of the four not good at relationships
This was my favorite moment(Ken at the end) of the show. These days I don't like the show and I'll never rewatch it.
One of the best episode 😎
Favorite episode of the show. You're right, it's like a murder mystery but the mystery isn't who the killer is but who the victim will be. Rips your heart out with Kendall only for him to turn the tables with the greatest "But" imaginable.
Is Tom secretly an alpha? Remember that he offered to be a blood sacrifice before. He looked scared in the discussion table when his name was put forward and tried to shift the focus on him. But in his defense, so did everybody whose names were spoken.
Later on, his main gripe with this situation was how Shiv treated him. He finally spoke his mind to her. And then the chicken scene with Logan, he actually never rescinded his offer to be a blood sacrifice. He just gave Logan a taste of his medicine, "boar on the floor" was probably on his mind, too.
Overall, this seemed like a big win for him. Obviously, we know how the show ends but this was interesting to rewatch with you guys.
First I reject those labels, second nope, dude is just Tom, a blood-sucking, sycophant
SPOILERS:
its crazy how proud Logan was of Kendall here then Kendall goes on to shit the bed over & over out of guilt & hubris… sad
I don’t know why I thought last episode was 8
i think shiv DOES love tom, but sometimes love doesn't trump how you were raised/trauma. the way she (and all the roy kids) were raised is on competition and "making plays" and putting each other down, so when it comes to tom and her marriage, that's exactly how she behaves. whenever she feels bested by her father/family, she takes it out on tom to try and gain back some kind of control. i support women's rights AND women's wrongs! i
Spoiler alert: the ending actually shows that not only was Logan right all along but also he wasn’t the real bad guy