MY BATTLE WITH GAMBLING ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH

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  • Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
  • Here i tell my story of my battle with gambling addiction which over my lifetime lost me over £100,000 and mental health. I am now two years clean from gambling and i am desperate to help others.
    My channel going forward will feature vlogs, thoughts on gambling industry as a whole, children gambling and interviews with fellow gambling addicts and people who have suffered from mental health with the aim being to share our stories in order to help others. The hope is, people hearing our stories who are suffering will get the feeling they are not alone, not the only person the addiction as taken over, not the only person that has anxiety, not on their own.
    0 to 20 min growing up, addiction taking hold, the things i did to gamble
    20min to end,
    suicide attempt, how i stopped, my help for others struggling with gambling addiction and mental health
    Thank you for visting and for watching, please help me do good and get these videos out there to spread the awareness and our stories by liking the video, commenting, subscribing and sharing if you would be so kind.
    Thank you to those involved in getting me set up on youtube it is much appreciated.
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    #Addiction
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @rileysmiley9585
    @rileysmiley9585 3 роки тому +6

    Don't worry everything will be alright!💙🕊️💙

  • @_.Sparky._
    @_.Sparky._ 18 днів тому +1

    Great testimony and thanks so much for sharing your story. Best of luck with the daughter.

  • @westhompson6906
    @westhompson6906 3 роки тому +3

    Well done takes a lot of guts to put yourself out there and tell your story,
    Congratulations on the birth of your daughter even more reason to never gamble again.
    Have seen the destruction gambling causes especially fobt and online gambling hopefully the government bring in stricter rules in October.

  • @shvm7489
    @shvm7489 3 роки тому +5

    We all start with those teddy machines and arcade games.
    Then we're taking football accas only to feel bollocks the next day.
    Your journey and story just like some of us has been really painful and sorrowful.
    Since i cant attend any form of GA due to lockdown restrictions, these videos will do just great
    Keep them coming man🙏

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely, its a common pathway to eventual self destruct and for me thats why its so important to spread awareness and help. Thank you for your kind words

  • @johnatkinson7479
    @johnatkinson7479 3 роки тому +3

    I admire your honesty
    I had a real problem with bookies roulette for about 5-7 years with differing points of severity, the mood swings I would go through while playing and after (depending on win/loss) were just insane, from pits of utter self misery and guilt to euphoria and self confidence, I would march round the bookies taking to myself and shouting in a rage and sometimes spitting and kicking the machines, it was madness..it ran and controlled my life from top to bottom, as time past I managed to come away from it without causing any permanent damage to myself or friends and family thankfully..I also suffered a panic attack and went to ER convinced I was having a heart attack like yourself, and like you it left me convinced I had a heart problem which effected me mentally for months

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Thank you John. I obviously and im sure others can relate a great deal to your story and just reading it helps me not feel alone so im sure it will others. You should take a lot of pride in the fact you managed to come away from it, its no easy feat as we know and i for one am chuffed to bits for you.

    • @johnatkinson7479
      @johnatkinson7479 3 роки тому

      Cheers mate...I hope one day there will be a full inquiry into the FOBT scandal..they destroyed many many life’s, even in my small town they affected dozens of good people..the press labelled them as the crack cocaine of gambling for a good reason

  • @jamesokeefe5028
    @jamesokeefe5028 2 роки тому +2

    Grateful to find your channel at a very low point 🙏 find some hope in your story man, congratulations on the birth of your child.. what a reward for never giving up ❤️

  • @ramseyabou-shaqra9527
    @ramseyabou-shaqra9527 3 роки тому +3

    Total respect mate...its the hardest thing in the world to fight an addiction.but can be done..you named a few thing that i relate to..i mean the lies i made up just to gambel..im now the king of bullshit..

  • @straceysains2229
    @straceysains2229 3 роки тому +10

    Very brave thing to do this. Opening up like that. Well done
    If this video helps 1 person then it’s been worth white doing.
    Keep up the good mate .

  • @AlexA-mh5xs
    @AlexA-mh5xs 3 роки тому +3

    Very brave and honest testimony... hats off to you, sir, and congratulations on your life change and Emilia!!

  • @Carl-rw1qz
    @Carl-rw1qz 3 роки тому +4

    That 30 minutes flew, I can relate to a lot of you're previous woes with gambling. I'm 2 and a half months gambling free.
    What a sad story (but common) you are a very courageous man to get where you are today, give yourself a lot of credit mate. Keep trying to spread the word of this horrible addiction - giving others hope. Congratulations on your new born and stay strong 👍

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you carl for your kind words, im just hoping it will help others. Ive got a video up later tonight interviewing another incredible person who has battled gambling along with drink and drugs.
      Well done on your two n half months fella, keep goin, filling your time that you would normally have urges to gamble and keep doing what your doing its clearly working, a day a time 😊

    • @Carl-rw1qz
      @Carl-rw1qz 3 роки тому +1

      2 and a half months and I'm seeing such a difference. I'm getting counselling off NHS GS, I've tried other things in past, normal counselling, GA, necca. This NHS GS is by far the most in depth help out there. I believe atm its exclusive to Northern England, I'm sure that will change. You get signed to a clinical psychologist (1 on 1 sessions 1st )and then have your group meetings there after. Have a look into this mate! So many people don't even know this exists through you're GP, and maybe someone reaching out to you, you can tell them about this amazing help. It's an amazing programme. You're helping people with you're honesty and that takes guts. Well done man! I will give you're new upload a watch later. All the best, and as you say day at a time 👍🙏

    • @paulrichards6894
      @paulrichards6894 2 роки тому

      @@Carl-rw1qz i suffer anxiety and i punt for my living so i really couldn't imagine how i would feel if i was a losing punter....seen people lose their houses marriages cars all their savings through gambling....my wife is surprised when i told her best friends son to stop gambling though i don't think his gambling was out of control

  • @Benoutof
    @Benoutof 3 роки тому +4

    Nice one. Majority of gamblers use the blame game when really it's just us that's to blame, we just need time to see that and admit it.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      I think its common amongst people in general that when something goes wrong, we look to blame others and for me gambling addiction just magnifies that as we are so wrapped up in hurt, guilt, chaos and possible financial ruin, its just far easier to point fingers whilst we are not thinking clearly.

    • @jhonrecil8741
      @jhonrecil8741 2 місяці тому

      We win some in gambling thats why we keep doing it. Without thinking the consequences, until we lose all our savings, having debt. No matter how big you win, it will never be enough, we always want more, the problems is ourself, we are the game, we have been played by gambling. Godbless. Stay out of gambling. 🙏

  • @richardjones1832
    @richardjones1832 3 роки тому +3

    That was very moving. A brave thing to do 👍

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Thank you Richard, I just want to help others not go through what I and those around me did.

  • @telboysrantsandbants4077
    @telboysrantsandbants4077 3 роки тому +1

    I am currently being assessed for mental health issues and have been struggling with gambling for 20 plus years.
    I have a loving wife and daughter but I still find myself gambling to the point where I have gotten us into financial problems recently, I believe it has come from being made redundant at the start of the pandemic and my mental health getting worse as a result.
    getting my mental health in order is something I'm very serious about as my mother and sister both have serious mental health issues that they both now manage, this is where I want to be in my life as right now I am scared I will lose my family and everything that keeps me going in life.
    thank you for your video and I hope you continue to get better and thrive as I do one day.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Sorry to hear your struggling mate, I think your plan is a good one in terms of addressing your mental health as for me when you have an addiction, poor mental health leads us to go round and round in a vicious circle with addiction.
      Addressing mental health and hopefully getting that in order n feeling better will give you a better platform and foundation to build off as you attempt to either stop gambling or at lest bring it back under some form of control.
      Let me know how you get on.
      I wish you and your family all the best

    • @telboysrantsandbants4077
      @telboysrantsandbants4077 3 роки тому

      @@secondchanceaddiction7619 thank you for your kind words and I will most definitely keep on this path and let you know how I get on.

  • @aknightwhosaysni2475
    @aknightwhosaysni2475 3 роки тому +2

    It's easy to see why you're wife stayed with you, you're an incredibly nice bloke. I wish you, your wife and child nothing but happiness. This video will certainly help me. Thanks for explaining what gamstop is, my trouble is with the vultures online. I know I will stop now 🙏
    God be with you

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Knight, the gamstop tool is so powerful a barrier against online gambling and i cannot recommend it enough, glad your going to get help, i wish you all best :-)

  • @alisonozbek2842
    @alisonozbek2842 3 роки тому +11

    Fantastic! Really admire you for sharing all that! well done!

  • @SlavGuns
    @SlavGuns 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Glad you are still alive. You doing these videos saves other lives.

  • @chrismurphy8638
    @chrismurphy8638 3 роки тому +2

    brave guy... sounds like my story.. I reckon this happens to alot of people who think there alone should be more people like u to tell there story's

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Ive witnessed first hand it sadly does mate and fairly often friends and family are not aware to the extent in which the gambler is being taken hold of by theaddiction undercurrents. There are other channels out there doing great things to spread the awareness but i agree more people should do their bit including the industry in their marketing perhaps as daft as it may sound.

  • @summan41man
    @summan41man 3 роки тому +2

    God bless you and your family. Emilia is your reason to struggle, the incentive to sacrifice today for tomorrow.

  • @patrikiosvatemanopoulos
    @patrikiosvatemanopoulos 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @sarahbradley8054
    @sarahbradley8054 3 роки тому +5

    Takes alot to open up like you have, well done!

  • @999tays
    @999tays Місяць тому +1

    I gambled away aprox over 100k Euros. In huge debt now. But I’m not giving up.

  • @iscreamer8547
    @iscreamer8547 3 роки тому +3

    Wait WHAT ? For real ?? £100,000 ? That is more than i thought...

  • @DavidBhoy1967
    @DavidBhoy1967 3 роки тому +3

    Well done mate. It takes amazing courage to be so open and honest. What a brilliant ending as well! So pleased there was light at the end of the tunnel for you and your partner.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Thank you David, yes the amazing end is the start of a new amazing beginning and I definitely couldn’t see that happening in the height of it. For anyone out there struggling, it can and will get better. Keep going.

  • @vaughancapstick9961
    @vaughancapstick9961 2 роки тому +1

    Candid and honest. Knowledge and opinions gained from experience are always a valuable asset to any community especially when they're shared.
    Best wishes for the whole family.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you mate. Agreed. I just tryna do my bit to help and raise awareness of what it can do. Hope your well

  • @sueannchapman3017
    @sueannchapman3017 2 роки тому +1

    Very Brave! Inspirational. Keep being strong!

  • @Rafman316
    @Rafman316 3 роки тому +1

    Very brave of you to make this video. I also started when I was young, about 6 of 7, on the 2 penny push machines and the electronic horse race game. Great video. Well done.

  • @bethanysmith2178
    @bethanysmith2178 3 роки тому +4

    Well Done Babe - Real , Raw , Honest Video Saying How It Is

  • @musicismedicine4196
    @musicismedicine4196 3 роки тому +1

    Thank U thank U thank U brother!!!! U have helped so many people with this and have truly turned a curse into a blessing 👊

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Sam. Appreciate the kind words. That was the aim and hopefully help many more along the way

  • @stevendurrant1724
    @stevendurrant1724 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful, ta.

  • @bodyofalegend
    @bodyofalegend 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for the upload, I did a lot of research into this illness when creating my UA-cam video and it’s definitely a topic that should have more awareness!

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      It definitely is and that is one of my aims, to spread more awareness as it has the potential to kill and destroy lives just as much as other addictions.

  • @gamblingsucks
    @gamblingsucks 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Bud,
    Amazingly I have never come across your vids but listening to 'Only Phil's latest he mentioned you, loved your story and so happy to see you making good for the carnage this illness leaves behind, I noted you have a online GA group and would love to take a seat if I may ... Keep me posted ... All the best mate.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  2 роки тому

      Hiya mate. Thank you. I think the more of us who are sharing and raising awareness of what this horrible addiction can do, the better. Regards g.a I absolutely can sort that if you want to email me at secondchancegamblingaddiction@gmail.com or dm me on twitter @addictionchance I will send you the link to zoom meeting. Its every Wednesday at 7pm UK. Hope you are well

  • @Fifa_vids_england
    @Fifa_vids_england 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @avamyst70
    @avamyst70 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for making this video. I can relate to so much!

  • @sajmeister
    @sajmeister 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing this and starting this channel. You're an inspiration

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, its important to me that the awareness is spread about gambling addiction and also about how we can get through struggles with addiction and mental health in general. Next video up sunday

  • @dylanknight333
    @dylanknight333 3 роки тому +4

    Brilliant Key, so proud of you. A lot of stuff in there that I can relate to. You've come so far and you're an inspiration to me and so many others. :)

  • @joeburrell5496
    @joeburrell5496 3 роки тому +6

    Good listen. Real Eye opener 👍

  • @susanguy925
    @susanguy925 3 роки тому +1

    Good on you pal, onwards & upwards!

  • @briansample1364
    @briansample1364 3 роки тому +2

    Powerful video. Thanks for sharing mate.

  • @keelanbirks6787
    @keelanbirks6787 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for sharing - good listen 👏

  • @chloemorrison998
    @chloemorrison998 3 роки тому +4

    So brave 👏🏼 well done!

  • @tonygarforth539
    @tonygarforth539 2 роки тому +1

    just found this well done sir i had a freind who you remind me off he was 37 year old and it fetched it all back everything you said was like you were talking about him he was a great guy but sadly he did not make it

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  2 роки тому

      Ahh Tony I'm so sorry to hear that and I hope I haven't upset you too much in bringing it all back but I am doing this channel to spread awareness and help even just one person not go through what your friend and therefore his family and friends went through. Too many find themselves in deep trouble with this addiction and there just simply isn't enough awareness of the dangers.

  • @jasonbrown9016
    @jasonbrown9016 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks m8 took guts to open up and admit your faults,I been there not to your extent tho.Glad things are looking up congrats on your little one.

  • @SlavGuns
    @SlavGuns 2 роки тому +1

    And congrats on the child. Woot woot.

  • @eatsleepheal4420
    @eatsleepheal4420 3 роки тому +1

    I'm addicted but feel empty without a few spins atlest twice a week but now days if I win I buy something good an leave myself skint again so when that lose hits hopefully I'll only have the money I'd a got few pints an pack a zigs with anyhow thats my advice don't have much on you as a gambler spend it pay bills keep ur car on road an if you wanna av a punt take a limit an have a leave limit your happy with if you hit a win an go get that thing you want or for the misses or the kids

  • @emmanuelvacakis4463
    @emmanuelvacakis4463 2 роки тому +1

    When you get into the long run, gambling doesn’t exist. If you play at a 5% disadvantage, you will lose exactly 5% of your total bets. And it’s not just you, it’s everyone who plays. It makes no difference what betting strategy you use, the result will be the same. It’s an absolute mathematical certainty that all who play will lose at a rate of whatever the house advantage is. So if you ever think about playing again, you know ahead of time what the outcome will be.

  • @missdevil6667
    @missdevil6667 3 роки тому +2

    Last week i found out my little sister got a gambling addiction
    I dont know how much she's i debt because of it but its ten of thousands of euro's
    I barely speak to here because of other reasons but im thinking about it
    Do you have any advice how to approach it? She's still in denial and thank you for sharing you're story

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Firstly i would like to say i am not expert or anything but i have obviously lived and battled gambling addiction but my advice to you would be to approach it in a way that is not preaching and not an give an ultimatum as hard as it may be. So i would ask her questions around her gambling that allows her to hear herself saying just how much she is gambling, just how much she is in debt and then maybe ask her what she would say to you if you gave those answers, key thing being again allowing her to realise what she is doing without you ramming it down her throat, its her own words, id approach it that way because you say she is in denial, this allows her to realise through her own answers.

  • @dilwich
    @dilwich Місяць тому +1

    One day at a time.

  • @daviddavian7562
    @daviddavian7562 3 роки тому +1

    That’s me. Alcoholic gambler and cocaine and severe anxiety and depression

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Heart goes out to ya mate, its so so difficult and made worse by the times in which we living in but keep hope, keep going, i can only say from my experience be open to help and reach out, things can definatly turn for the better , however unlikely it can seem at times.

  • @realeyes6774
    @realeyes6774 3 роки тому +1

    Please I can't left this addiction 🥺.I lost more and more but I can't left this bullshit

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, my advice would be Work on what is the main reasons for you to gamble, is it to win big because you are poor, is it to escape poor mental health, is it to pass time when you are bored, is it to chase losses etc.
      It may be a mixture of those and most likely will be.
      Whatever the reason you keep going back, work on yourself and the solutions to your problem but try and eliminate gambling as a solution.
      If you have someone close to take control of your finances for a while that is a massive tool to help stop.
      Fill your time with other things to do, find a new hobby or interest, it will help stave off the thoughts of wanting to gamble if you are occupied mentally.
      Find what the route reasons are and try break the cycle that keeps tempting you back in.
      You can do this, I did and I was absolutely horrendous.

  • @JarredChaisson
    @JarredChaisson 3 роки тому +2

    Wow

  • @leonneil5509
    @leonneil5509 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to join your group mate

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      If you are talking about our gamblers anonymous group i can get you onto our online zoom meeting mate, if you want to contact me on twitter i will follow you back and send me a direct message or email me at secondchancegamblingaddiction@gmail.com.

  • @headhunterswift6362
    @headhunterswift6362 3 роки тому +2

    I'm a gambling nut job.it started at 8 year old It started with lucky 7 football scratch cards then a arcade opened in my town .started hanging about there. Then at 13 I was playing cards playing fruit mancheins and going to the dogs hanging about the streets started drinking in though I was the man ....so bye the time I was 15 I was coming crime to feed my drinking and gambling every day it was getting bad there was no gambling on a Sunday so I went to a tossing school bye 16 I was homeless I went to jail for no paying fines. I got out off jail and I was still homeless so I did more crime to feed my addiction .this is a long path im now 50 I will tell use more tomorrow or later tonight

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Some story of how this horrible addiction along with drink can completely consume you and mess up your life mate. I feel for you and i hope you are in a better position now. If you fancy a chat in private follow me ( so i can follow you back) then send me dm on twitter. Link is in description. Also your story would be so powerful in helping others if you ever wanted to come on the channel to tell it over zoom. Either way i wish you all the best and write away if you feel it helps 😊

    • @headhunterswift6362
      @headhunterswift6362 3 роки тому

      So from 16 to 27th spent a lot off time hanging about the arcade and in the betting shops I was committed crime every day just abou.t in and out of jai.l drinking alcohol hanging around the streets all day trying to get money for a bet. Bye 27 I got to stay with my brother met a my girlfriend and had a wee boy was still gambling and drinking so that lasted about 3 years. Met another girl started working had another 2 children. Still gambling everything. Stopped drinking. Started a gardening business the money I was making went to the bookies as I was my own boss i would Finnish when I wanted to go to the bookies and loose my money every time. So this is still going on i hate it is could only make money in the summer time I would keep some for the winter time so at the beginning of each summer I have nothing and in det. I do look after my children. The way I see it I'm only hurting myself. I work hard and nothing to show for it. I hate the advertising. ..stop when the fun stops...there is no fun. I go to the bookies knowing that will loose .I hate beting hate it.i have no had a bet for 1 mouth maybe it's easier because I'm not working the now but I will try to stop it do hate it no fun it's wasted my life. But I'm going to try hard ass I can no to bet .God give me strength. Ì have started training at the gym to help me .it works the now. .I know I will have this addition for the rest of my life it will never go away. I just have to be strong. I'm going to try and brake the circle I'm in. .. I will write more soon

  • @bozzface1
    @bozzface1 3 роки тому +2

    I can relate to a lot of things youve gone through mate....not many ppl understand gambling addiction

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      Aye its quite an underestimated addiction from outside in my opinion, i feel most don’t see that it can kill, wreck lives of the person and the people around them and in general ruin peoples health/mental health in same way other addictions especially drugs and alcohol can. Thanks for watching, if ever want to chat reach out on my twitter.

  • @solarpepino
    @solarpepino 2 роки тому +4

    Drugs are not Allowed...Right ??? wHY GAMBLING IS ALLOWED ''''??????....Casinos only Survive with the Addicts...not with the People that go there once a year.

  • @blaqexcellence3300
    @blaqexcellence3300 3 роки тому +1

    How’d gambling anonymous help you cos I’ve got so many debts to pay and I don’t know how to go about it .😔 I’ve been gambling too but when I look at the debts I owe my friends and all that , really wanna always wanna make me go back. Please help 😔

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  3 роки тому

      If you have got twitter follow me and I will follow you back and send you a dm, my twitter is in description below

    • @blaqexcellence3300
      @blaqexcellence3300 3 роки тому

      I just followed you on Twitter
      I won huge on the 1st of May and lost all on the 2nd . I hate myself right now
      The bettigg company will only allow to withdraw in bits and that the problem 😔
      I lost all ... back to zero now
      🥲

  • @artidom8762
    @artidom8762 2 роки тому +2

    I watched your videos and understand but i cant change my mind. I lost more than 50k euro. It might not lot of for another people. But its so much moneyfor me. I dont have solutions for my debts. What should i do guys. Im atheist but I want to believe to God now. Cause i feel like empty i have nothing.

    • @secondchanceaddiction7619
      @secondchanceaddiction7619  2 роки тому +1

      Hiya. Sorry to hear about your struggles Artidom. With you saying euro's I assume your in Europe and so I do not know what debt help is available in your country but one thing I can say is let's put things in place to stop that debt getting worse through gambling.
      I promise you that gambling will not make this better and will not win back your losses. Maybe you would have a small win but you would gamble it back in order to win bigger and get your losses back but would ultimately lose it.
      Trust me I have tried it and failed and made things a lot worse.
      If you can, hand over your finances and access to money to someone who you trust for a period of time,
      ban yourself online and wherever you normally gamble,
      if you need money for day to day life have someone looking after your money only give you the correct amount of money you need that day,
      fill the time you would normally spend gambling, try new hobbies or interests and avoid having time to sit around too much as that's when the urges will become really strong.
      Approach a debt help in your country and be honest with them 100%
      If there is a gamblers anonymous meeting or equivelent I'd recommend going.
      Your welcome to dm me on twitter and I will give you link for our online gamblers anonymous meeting held on zoom once a week.( obviously we speak in English),
      I wish you the best of luck but please do not think that gambling can get you out of this, it cannot and will not.