Good touch including the charging handle spring I ordered one of your pro stock polymer charging handles because the spring on my factory one broke now I can fix my factory handle and put it on the opposite side
Great info, thanks! One question, why don't you make an aftermarket polymer charging handle?? You basically sell 2 things that don't work well together.
Depends on your exact model, but no, generally the pistol models (with spring tab type barrel nut) require the pistol barrel nut tool. The carbine tool is used for models with a hex type barrel nut (carbine and flash can pistol).
At 13:16, you mention that you can remove the trunnion by simply removing the front two receiver screws. Is this correct? If I recall correctly, it appeared to me when I had my receiver halves apart that the "lip" at the front of the receiver halves captures the trunnion, necessitating the total separation of the receiver halves to remove the trunnion. Are you simply flexing the receiver halves apart enough after removing those two screws to remove the trunnion?
The blue vise is made by Irwin, here is a link to their website: www.irwin.com/tools/browse/vises . They can be purchased at most big box hardware stores :-)
@mtsEnrique We try to focus on manufacturing and design, but can recommend several gunsmiths if you need. Please just email us sales@hbindustries.net and we can get you taken care of :-)
It is not a direct bolt on... The 3Plus uses a different barrel trunnion. If the 3Plus barrel/trunnion are changed out for a standard Evo 3 barrel (5.3" or 3lug, etc...) and/or trunnion then YES you can use our Evo 3 handguards on your 3Plus
Yes, these handguards make the Scorpion Evo very modular. You can use any of our lengths (4.25", 6.84", 11.25", 11.50", or 15.13") with your flash can pistol model
@@mikepeifer6502 yes, you would probably want to use our 5.3" barrel or consider machining your factory barrel down to a shorter length. I guess I was just trying to communicate that all of our Evo handguards are modular and would fit over your Evo's flash can and barrel :-)
The installation guide on your website shows torque value of 80 in/lbs for the trunnion adapter block and 65 in/lbs for the handguard screws. in the video, the guy says 25-30 in/lbs for the trunnion block adapter and 20-25 in/lbs for the handguard screws Which torque values are correct?
Great question. Correct spec is in the written/supplied instructions. Up to 80in*lbs on the trunnion adapter block cap screw, and 65in*lbs on the flat head handguard screws. We need to make a new video, this one is from 2016 :-/
I recently installed the Pakse Sapper 6.4″ Handguard and it was a little loose. I did what you recommended and only tightened it to 10 ft/lb. Any advice to press the handguard to make it tighter?
The weights are nearly identical; example: OEM handguard with barrel nut: 9.615 oz, HBI 6.84” Angle with mounting block: 9.655 oz. Same with the carbine length handguards.
Loctite 243 is formulated to be slightly more oil resistant and is generally considered to be an "upgraded" version of Loctite 242. In our experience they are very similar though, and I would imagine that if you cleaned your fasteners and mounting holes well with acetone or denatured alcohol prior to installation that both 242 and 243 would yield similar results.
I purchased the handguard for my new Carbine plus 3 and I was unable because of 1x1 inch outside threading on the barrel just before it go's through the receiver that the Trunnel would not slide over. And I could not get any answers from CZ as to why the threading was there and what purpose it served....DUH
The "Scorpion 3 Plus" uses a different trunnion on the barrel than does the "Scorpion Evo 3". On the 3 Plus the trunnion is threaded on the outside diameter and is not currently compatible with our aluminum handguards. We can help you with a return on our parts if you would like? Or look at possibly getting you an Evo 3 trunnion for your 3 Plus.
plus it has small cuts in it.. you should be able to use a flat head screw driver across both sides and torque out unless it's heavily caked with loctite in which I would use the strap wrench
Good touch including the charging handle spring I ordered one of your pro stock polymer charging handles because the spring on my factory one broke now I can fix my factory handle and put it on the opposite side
Does the gray cerakote match the battleship gray color would anyone have images?? I’m kinda torn don’t wanna have 50 shades of gray on my pistol
Can you show how to take the faux suppressor off please
The muzzle on mine requires a wrench or something? How would you recommend taking it off without damaging it?
Great info, thanks! One question, why don't you make an aftermarket polymer charging handle?? You basically sell 2 things that don't work well together.
Really good question; we are working on extended polymer charge handles right now, they should be available in about 3 weeks :-)
Also, loving the Honda tachometer avatar @Lars
The barrel nut wrench in this video is out of stock so I ordered the longer carbine one. Is that still going to work on my scorpion pistol?
Depends on your exact model, but no, generally the pistol models (with spring tab type barrel nut) require the pistol barrel nut tool. The carbine tool is used for models with a hex type barrel nut (carbine and flash can pistol).
At 13:16, you mention that you can remove the trunnion by simply removing the front two receiver screws. Is this correct? If I recall correctly, it appeared to me when I had my receiver halves apart that the "lip" at the front of the receiver halves captures the trunnion, necessitating the total separation of the receiver halves to remove the trunnion. Are you simply flexing the receiver halves apart enough after removing those two screws to remove the trunnion?
You are correct, to remove the trunnion (and barrel) from the upper receiver both halves need to be completely separated (7 screws).
Hi there
What type /model /brand company of gun Vise do you used for this video? i'm referring to the blue vise.
The blue vise is made by Irwin, here is a link to their website: www.irwin.com/tools/browse/vises . They can be purchased at most big box hardware stores :-)
is there a possibility that if I send in my scorpion to HB industries you guys could install the micro rail and cut and tread the barrel to match?
@mtsEnrique We try to focus on manufacturing and design, but can recommend several gunsmiths if you need. Please just email us sales@hbindustries.net and we can get you taken care of :-)
Does this hand guard work with the 3 plus pistol?
It is not a direct bolt on... The 3Plus uses a different barrel trunnion. If the 3Plus barrel/trunnion are changed out for a standard Evo 3 barrel (5.3" or 3lug, etc...) and/or trunnion then YES you can use our Evo 3 handguards on your 3Plus
Do these handguards work on the new 3+ models?
No, they do not fit the 3+ models.
Very Helpful. Thank you.
I want to have my evo pistol with the longer hand rail and flash can into a smaller profile. Will these work with that model?
Yes, these handguards make the Scorpion Evo very modular. You can use any of our lengths (4.25", 6.84", 11.25", 11.50", or 15.13") with your flash can pistol model
HB Industries i would need the micro kid for the 4.25” one though right?
@@mikepeifer6502 yes, you would probably want to use our 5.3" barrel or consider machining your factory barrel down to a shorter length. I guess I was just trying to communicate that all of our Evo handguards are modular and would fit over your Evo's flash can and barrel :-)
HB Industries i got you. Yeah I bought a bunch of stuff from you guys. Just realized your in the Phoenix area as well. Is there a physical store?
@@mikepeifer6502 yes, please see our website for the address
The installation guide on your website shows torque value of 80 in/lbs for the trunnion adapter block and 65 in/lbs for the handguard screws.
in the video, the guy says 25-30 in/lbs for the trunnion block adapter and 20-25 in/lbs for the handguard screws
Which torque values are correct?
Great question. Correct spec is in the written/supplied instructions. Up to 80in*lbs on the trunnion adapter block cap screw, and 65in*lbs on the flat head handguard screws. We need to make a new video, this one is from 2016 :-/
It was terrifying putting polymer in vice grips, mine survived fortunately but good video
I recently installed the Pakse Sapper 6.4″ Handguard and it was a little loose. I did what you recommended and only tightened it to 10 ft/lb. Any advice to press the handguard to make it tighter?
How to remove carbine’s fake suppressor
Did you find a video on how to take off the fake suppressor
Aren't they "bolts", not screws??
Good overall.... Ever hear of deep, metric socket!!
Does a deep socket work?
What are we talking about weight difference wise?
The weights are nearly identical; example: OEM handguard with barrel nut: 9.615 oz, HBI 6.84” Angle with mounting block: 9.655 oz. Same with the carbine length handguards.
I'm guessing that difference would be better if you're changing the carbine length plus faux suppressor with the 6.84 flat?
Why not 242 blue?
Loctite 243 is formulated to be slightly more oil resistant and is generally considered to be an "upgraded" version of Loctite 242. In our experience they are very similar though, and I would imagine that if you cleaned your fasteners and mounting holes well with acetone or denatured alcohol prior to installation that both 242 and 243 would yield similar results.
All the tools were out of stock so I just have to wing it 👍
I purchased the handguard for my new Carbine plus 3 and I was unable because of 1x1 inch outside threading on the barrel just before it go's through the receiver that the Trunnel would not slide over. And I could not get any answers from CZ as to why the threading was there and what purpose it served....DUH
The "Scorpion 3 Plus" uses a different trunnion on the barrel than does the "Scorpion Evo 3". On the 3 Plus the trunnion is threaded on the outside diameter and is not currently compatible with our aluminum handguards. We can help you with a return on our parts if you would like? Or look at possibly getting you an Evo 3 trunnion for your 3 Plus.
I bought free float handguard in fde for my evo 3
First! Loving my HB trigger.
Good Job man
How to remove carbine’s fake suppressor
We have been able to use a strap wrench on most of the faux suppressor carbines that we have worked on here
plus it has small cuts in it.. you should be able to use a flat head screw driver across both sides and torque out unless it's heavily caked with loctite in which I would use the strap wrench
HB Industries what? Make video on it????