@@Bigbobbedboi I understand, works been crazy lately so I’m still just level 66.. I love all the content you put out regardless what it’s on, I’m just a big pvp guy. No rush, I hope your enjoying the game!
Thanks for the time you put into this man I don’t remember much from thc even though I was around. If any one sees this I’m on whitemaine looking for a raid spot
I was testing a lot of guns/bows of P1 and i think that the gun from Opera is the best option, a little bit of minus DPS but the 2.70 AS is the perfect AS to combine with SS
With the enchant Legacy is actually 75 agility, the new 2h agi is +35 not 25.. I'm going for Legacy 100% cause i refuse to run H AC haha. As always though man sick video keen for the next.
Yea I got them on for the hit intellect and sockets, I need the extra armor for aoe damage in boss fights and intellect for long fights like gruul, and the hit to help me get to 9% hit cap. The agi and attack power is also money on these boots
I’m almost lvl 68, time to start farming this stuff can’t wait. Bearing in mind it’s my 5th lvl 70 but this is different as I went fresh on a new server as alliance. Can’t wait to finish work today and go ding my last few % of lvl and run steam vaults
The stat sticks. You forgot to mention the Hellforged Hallberd from honor hold rep. Insane AP, tons of agi + hit rating Pair that with the +35 agi and you got a monster on your hands.
@@ms8567 I believe you need to rotate multiple shot in and arcane every 2 steadys. That’s what big boy said once on a stream. Could be wrong. That’s why I want a guide :)
@@Max655 you’ll lose mana way faster using multi in a rotation for boss fights; that should be on multi target fights only. ( also mentioned by the boi)
BBB! Man I’m still rocking 8 pc t3 and doing over 1k dps on bosses. Cant wait to get my beast lord 4 pc and get that Chonky ArP! Do a stream already your disciples need guidance.
I love your videos! But you mention that an enchanted Legacy is 65 agi. Legacy has 40 of its own and the enchant is 35, so it's 75 total. Bade of the Unrequited with 3x agi gem and ench is 39 and Claw of the Watcher with 2x agi gem and ench is 31, which makes a total of 70 agi, but the other stats on both weapons makes those weapons better, plus with a weightstone on the claw and the sharpening stone on the dagger it will be even more better for non weavers (The latter doesn't increase ranged crit but it does increase the dmg) And then in P2, the +20 agi enchant for 1h's will be available, making the 2x 1h's a total of 80 agi, which is even better
hey man, love your vids! I just wanted to ask, why is Legacy not better than CLAW and Blade of Unrequited? On stats alone u lose 5 agility (if both 1h are enchanted with +20agi) and 19crit but gain a massive 35AP (and 8 mana per sec which I guess helps in longer fights) do Adamantine Weightstones really add THAT much of a difference to cover the 35AP? like how much does weapon dmg and 14 crit hit rating translate into stats? Because without it I would take 35ap over 19crit any day.
Actually AP is more dmg, BUT agility scales with kings which makes it best as you'll almost always have a pally. Maybe not in 10man but definitely in 25man.
Pre-raid: is the abacus and hourglass a better combo than abacus and bloodlust brooch? Trying to justify loosing over 1.5% crit and not finding much info.
@@SaschaNowark same .. been doing Mecha all day today still no helm. I's like Blizzard knows every Hunter needs It so they lowered the drop rate so that people spend more time into their game = more money for them.. I litteraly have seen all his loot table expect the helm.. wtf is going on
@Bigbobbedboi Can anyone tell me which pet skills I should use while leveling up to 70? I've looked everywhere and they talk about skills like gore 9 bite 9 dash, avoidance and snake reflexes... and the rest of the points spent where? stamina and natural armor? I've searched everywhere and I can't find a guide that answers
@@LuisKunha no, there is no need, base + talents armor is plenty, in combination with mend pet you can solo all elites quests that require 2 people, non elites your pet doesnt take dmg
My Hunter is currently lvl 62, with 350 Leatherworking but haven't taken a specialization yet. Pre BiS video, you say Dragonscale pieces and BiS it's Elemental pieces.. So should I go Elemental or Dragonscale?
When you talk about the belt, you say to gem 2 delicate rubies, but the color sockets are blue and yellow, so you cant do that, and same with the offhand. Am I missing something?
No it's actually not. Its similar to the gloves in that it sounds really good, but just isn't. In full p1 bis sim shows the effect is about a 20dps gain, but you lose way more than that from the agi and ap loss. Didn't even account for the hit.
Its not a big enough difference to argue, just everything i've seen is that all 3 primalstrike pieces (so replacing the chest) is the most DPS. The Kazaak pants are like 2 dps higher than just having the 3 set.
This set of gear has ~1500 less mana than a standard mail set of gears, unless you kill bosses very quickly you'll go oom sooner and your aspect of the viper will also suffer from lower int values. Also AP values seems lower. This set might have trouble with T5 progression.
In the survival guide part, aren't forgetting the surv talent that gives you 3 percent hit? So only 6 is needed as a surv hunter. Also the 2H enchant is 35 not 25 so in raw agi Legacy it beats 2x1H, until we get 20agi on 1H
Boo fist weapons, boo. While most of this is info you can get from wowhead, its nice to have someone explain it all and compare the alternatives. Seems silly to say but I realize now why survive uses certain pieces and the talk of the whole, expose weakness vs personal dps was helpful to understand.
@@Bandos501 nah it's considered BIS because let's be real not every hunter getting all the exact pieces shown here until p5 the difference is 2.1% crit less and you have about 200 more AP than his BIS.
Can you do a super guide on the rotation? I know it's very simple and there are many guides and shit.. But I read those guides sometimes saying you can put 2 steady shots if you have a slow weapon and shit ..but it never works..my gun is the Honor hold exalted and my gear IS FUCKING GOOD!~ My maximum dps during Heroism and with full burst reaches 2k...But I offen see some dudes doing so much.. It makes me wonder if I'm doing anything wrong..Kinda frustrating..
MC hit scope is still a great option if you are lacking, yes you lose out on a little bit of extra dmg but unless you are a turbo nerd and want to min max the tits off TBC I’d say it’s still very strong
your geming is slightly wrong, you don't actually need 4 different gems to cover the 2 yellow and 2 blue requirement of the meta gem, 2x green will count as all 4
@@lilox3690 Thats why i wanted to play sv originally, to provide some extra support to the raid. But it seems all those warriors and rogues rerolled to elemental shams and warlocks. I guess my Server is a bit fucked^^
Dude I got a 24 agi claw of agility... 15 agi 39 with kings like 44 agi - so 44 agi/atkpwr 1 crit plus a weightstone ... think that may be better than kara dagg
@@orestisdedopoulos9251 haha you're too right. I completely forgot about one of the agility bonuses when I calculated and it's definitely better. The green was pretty good though
that set isn´t very good for t5 progression or long fights, no well rounded stats (low hp mana) also 1600 ap is really low, there are sets out there with 26% crit and 1800ap. As for the survival spec there is a set with 800agi near 9k hp and 7k mana, 2050ap and 30% crit, better than that 1.60% extra crit. Beast lord falls off for survival.
This is so well done. Love it bro. Gotta get the pvp tips out though too!! 🤩
It'll be a while, I just don't have the time right now. None of my alts are even to 70 yet.
@@Bigbobbedboi I understand, works been crazy lately so I’m still just level 66.. I love all the content you put out regardless what it’s on, I’m just a big pvp guy. No rush, I hope your enjoying the game!
Great video! Mutiple hit gear set, good explanation of different parts of the set. Great work
Thanks for the time you put into this man I don’t remember much from thc even though I was around. If any one sees this I’m on whitemaine looking for a raid spot
I was testing a lot of guns/bows of P1 and i think that the gun from Opera is the best option, a little bit of minus DPS but the 2.70 AS is the perfect AS to combine with SS
Incorrect
Ass a fellow Fairbanks hunter, thanks for all you do! Big help. Really enjoying my hunter!
With the enchant Legacy is actually 75 agility, the new 2h agi is +35 not 25.. I'm going for Legacy 100% cause i refuse to run H AC haha. As always though man sick video keen for the next.
For boots, fiend slayer boots are a decent alternative from chess event in kara
Yea I got them on for the hit intellect and sockets, I need the extra armor for aoe damage in boss fights and intellect for long fights like gruul, and the hit to help me get to 9% hit cap. The agi and attack power is also money on these boots
30 runs deep into SV - still have yet to see the pants lol. But I did get 4pc the other day with the chest drop, so yay! lol
26 runs, have had 3 leg drops but no shoulders.
Got legs and shoulders first run, so lucky 😅
I hear a forgotten weapon's reference, I click like. Please keep it up bro
How does 4xT3 plus 4x Beast lords do compared to p1 bis?
I’m almost lvl 68, time to start farming this stuff can’t wait. Bearing in mind it’s my 5th lvl 70 but this is different as I went fresh on a new server as alliance. Can’t wait to finish work today and go ding my last few % of lvl and run steam vaults
The stat sticks.
You forgot to mention the Hellforged Hallberd from honor hold rep.
Insane AP, tons of agi + hit rating
Pair that with the +35 agi and you got a monster on your hands.
Appreciate the Hunter guides keep it up!
Awesome... now i have something to watch before every raid.
Very well made video. Spot on, man.
Thanks I've been waiting fot this since for ever :)
Correction, not sure if anyone mentioned it yet but Legacy with Enchant is 75 Agi.
Great video! Cant wait to lose the roll on Mag Head and DST for the whole xpac!
We need an in depth rotation guide , like how the French rotation is properly executed.. same for the 1:1 rotation. Also some macros etc..
You don't want to hear this but.. DST first gruul 😂😂
Don't worry too much about the Mag head ring, it's worse than the 2 kara rings and the karazhan rep ring (surprisingly not mentioned in the video)
What is the addon that you show at 11:15 for gear and stats ? thx
The garandthumb esque intro im here for
Sweet baby hunter geeezus has granted us a BIS video on this, the lord hunters day.
Very well done video. Thanks for that.
Nice video. What is the name of the addon for detailed stats that you use in this video?
We need an in depth rotation guide
Spam steady shot, anything else is a dps loss.
@@ms8567 I believe you need to rotate multiple shot in and arcane every 2 steadys. That’s what big boy said once on a stream. Could be wrong. That’s why I want a guide :)
@@Max655 you’ll lose mana way faster using multi in a rotation for boss fights; that should be on multi target fights only. ( also mentioned by the boi)
Exactly ! like how the French rotation is properly executed.. same for the 1:1 rotation. Also some macros..
I hope he see this comment
french rotation unhasted
BBB! Man I’m still rocking 8 pc t3 and doing over 1k dps on bosses. Cant wait to get my beast lord 4 pc and get that Chonky ArP! Do a stream already your disciples need guidance.
is there a link to the wowhead 9% bis you showed?
Bracers of the hunt heroic sethek are supposed to be bis phase 1. Super helpful video
Could you do a video explaining why agility is better than attack power gems?
What boot enchant? Movement speed or +12agi?
I love your videos!
But you mention that an enchanted Legacy is 65 agi. Legacy has 40 of its own and the enchant is 35, so it's 75 total.
Bade of the Unrequited with 3x agi gem and ench is 39 and Claw of the Watcher with 2x agi gem and ench is 31, which makes a total of 70 agi, but the other stats on both weapons makes those weapons better, plus with a weightstone on the claw and the sharpening stone on the dagger it will be even more better for non weavers (The latter doesn't increase ranged crit but it does increase the dmg)
And then in P2, the +20 agi enchant for 1h's will be available, making the 2x 1h's a total of 80 agi, which is even better
What about bracers of the hunt, shows as +7 improvement compared to stalker war bands FYI
hey man, love your vids! I just wanted to ask, why is Legacy not better than CLAW and Blade of Unrequited? On stats alone u lose 5 agility (if both 1h are enchanted with +20agi) and 19crit but gain a massive 35AP (and 8 mana per sec which I guess helps in longer fights) do Adamantine Weightstones really add THAT much of a difference to cover the 35AP? like how much does weapon dmg and 14 crit hit rating translate into stats? Because without it I would take 35ap over 19crit any day.
the weapon damage does make the difference, legacy still rocks tho, i have both combos and mostly use legacy switch to claw/dagger for raid bosses
Amazing guide, style and content. Great work! The effort you put in shows.
please explain with agility is better than attack power?
AP Just gives AP.
Agi gives AP, Crit and Armor.
Actually AP is more dmg, BUT agility scales with kings which makes it best as you'll almost always have a pally. Maybe not in 10man but definitely in 25man.
RIP Demonstalker set it looks so good! Thanks BBB
Fuck the meta use what you think looks good innit 😂
For how long will beast lord set be bis?
How is stellaris not better than claw for raw stats ?
Pre-raid: is the abacus and hourglass a better combo than abacus and bloodlust brooch? Trying to justify loosing over 1.5% crit and not finding much info.
Someone has sim all different trinkets on the hunter discord and abacus + brooch was superior to abacus + hourglass
how hard is it to farm badges? just get the brooch
I was just thinking about this. I feel like every time I check back on the bis lists everything has changed from last time. It's driving me nuts.
I have done more than 30 Mechanar and I have never seen the Beastlord helm ... Am I just unlucky or is the drop rate really low..
That one took me forever too and I still dont have abacus. Been helping a tank everyday for sword and haven't seen it either.
@@Bigbobbedboi shieeett
did over 30 runs and no helm dropped ... dont know whats going on
I saw 3 abacus drop in 6 runs and lost them all fml
@@SaschaNowark same .. been doing Mecha all day today still no helm.
I's like Blizzard knows every Hunter needs It so they lowered the drop rate so that people spend more time into their game = more money for them..
I litteraly have seen all his loot table expect the helm.. wtf is going on
My favorite hunter vids.
So what is the app that converts the character info into % from the whole numbers?
why would you get the dagger when second fistweapon with weightstione is alot better
@Bigbobbedboi Can anyone tell me which pet skills I should use while leveling up to 70? I've looked everywhere and they talk about skills like gore 9 bite 9 dash, avoidance and snake reflexes... and the rest of the points spent where? stamina and natural armor? I've searched everywhere and I can't find a guide that answers
avoidance rank2 - 25pts
cobra reflexes - 15pts
gore/claw rank9 - 29pts
bite rank9 - 29pts
dash/dive - 25pts
fire res rank5 - 105pts
arcane res rank5 - 105pts
frost or shadow res rank2 - 15pts
@@gloth you dont need armor or stamina for leveling?
@@LuisKunha no, there is no need, base + talents armor is plenty, in combination with mend pet you can solo all elites quests that require 2 people, non elites your pet doesnt take dmg
@@gloth thank you very much for the explanation!
I always love your videos
What if you rock full t3 instead of the beastlord garbage ? Can you notice a huge difference?
the 4 beastlord set bonus is insanely good to not have, it's like a flat 600 armor penetration
beastlord is god tier, t3 is garbage
couldn't find the don't want fist weapons button
My Hunter is currently lvl 62, with 350 Leatherworking but haven't taken a specialization yet.
Pre BiS video, you say Dragonscale pieces and BiS it's Elemental pieces.. So should I go Elemental or Dragonscale?
drop LW
When you talk about the belt, you say to gem 2 delicate rubies, but the color sockets are blue and yellow, so you cant do that, and same with the offhand. Am I missing something?
Wait, can you put any gem in, but just not receive the bonus??
@@Mcbuggler Yes, you just don't get the bonus if you don't match the socket colors.
Love your guide/videos but I gotta say my Fiend Slayer Boots aren't that bad:P
Wolfslayer Sniper rifle isn't better for BM build?
the engine for tbc classic is diferent compared to old school, sunny D is bis
lovely,good job
this channel is some dope shiet!
Can you use 2 weight stones?
yes
Shouldent Legacy be 75 agi? 40 + 35 = 75 ;) you said 65 in the vid, gr8 work thou :)
Claw of the watcher reduces style points by a considerable margin, so they're not on my BIS list
I can agree with this.
option: +30 hit to bow!!!!!!! also, i got the bis bow! sunny d! last week was epic, 6 pieces, first Kara run.
What about T0.5 Boots for BM.... 3% Total Pet Damage has to be bis right?
No it's actually not. Its similar to the gloves in that it sounds really good, but just isn't. In full p1 bis sim shows the effect is about a 20dps gain, but you lose way more than that from the agi and ap loss. Didn't even account for the hit.
So...Hunter T1 set is trash? The 4 set bonus of the BL set trumps it?
yep, and you won't replace the beastlord pieces unless you have 4pc t5. Gonna have it for a long long time
Boot enchant?
Its not a big enough difference to argue, just everything i've seen is that all 3 primalstrike pieces (so replacing the chest) is the most DPS. The Kazaak pants are like 2 dps higher than just having the 3 set.
was looking for this thanks
thx. used this guide to buy my +15 agi mats on gloves though. lol. They FUUU changed the mats on that thing. :/
this literally burned me yesterday :/
@@orbis17 yep... good thing mats are pretty cheap. ;)
I got my chloroform and rag out tonight, got the DST man! Also picked up sunfury yesterday.. been a great week
Is that dagger really better? I don't wanna be a dagger hunter :(
39 agility m8
This set of gear has ~1500 less mana than a standard mail set of gears, unless you kill bosses very quickly you'll go oom sooner and your aspect of the viper will also suffer from lower int values. Also AP values seems lower. This set might have trouble with T5 progression.
unless im missing something, i dont think you can put delicate living ruby's in gronn belt
That's only if you're trying to get the socket bonus. You can ignore the bonus and just put two delicate gems.
@@ReggaOG my bad, thank you for the info. feelin pretty stupid right now.
@@Way2Stoked No prob dude. No need to feel bad tho.
how good is a gorehowl?
bad
Why do you use 8 agi gems instead of 16 AP gems?
for the crit
ty for the info
What about Engi goggles?
I need a starshards/smite build BiS!!
In the survival guide part, aren't forgetting the surv talent that gives you 3 percent hit? So only 6 is needed as a surv hunter. Also the 2H enchant is 35 not 25 so in raw agi Legacy it beats 2x1H, until we get 20agi on 1H
Didnt You forgett about The quiver and ammo type..
only 1 option whose not using wardens arrows and maghar quiver
Just fyi you get 35agi to 2hand so legacy gets 75 agi not 65. and bonuses not worth it so all 8 agi in sockets would be 80 on the one handers.
Boo fist weapons, boo. While most of this is info you can get from wowhead, its nice to have someone explain it all and compare the alternatives. Seems silly to say but I realize now why survive uses certain pieces and the talk of the whole, expose weakness vs personal dps was helpful to understand.
I thought that you got 4 piece beastlord no chest then do the 3set primal strike with leather working and that basically lasted you until t5
Primalstrike is only prebis lad
@@Bandos501 nah it's considered BIS because let's be real not every hunter getting all the exact pieces shown here until p5 the difference is 2.1% crit less and you have about 200 more AP than his BIS.
@@loganedwards5701 not hard getting 2 kara items
My Hunter is currently lvl 62, with 350 Leatherworking but haven't taken a specialization yet. So should I go Elemental or Dragonscale?
@@viviblaat5831 go enchanting/jc/engineer
im nearly close to finish my netherscale Lw set, am i a BIG DUMDUM ? :(
You won't oom that fast anymore
Yes worse than blues
Can you do a super guide on the rotation?
I know it's very simple and there are many guides and shit..
But I read those guides sometimes saying you can put 2 steady shots if you have a slow weapon and shit ..but it never works..my gun is the Honor hold exalted and my gear IS FUCKING GOOD!~
My maximum dps during Heroism and with full burst reaches 2k...But I offen see some dudes doing so much..
It makes me wonder if I'm doing anything wrong..Kinda frustrating..
just google the 3:2 steady auto rotation macro.
@@sincorddnb9155 I was under the impression that the macro's didn't work
75 agi on Legacy bobbo
I got fully geared in 2 weeks...smh...now what...
make an alt
Was that a forgotten weapons parody intro!?!!?
You got it!!! I wanted to do something about gun jesus but we're gonna be using bows for a while so went ahead with this intro.
You said you used a sim... uhhh what sim???
Early into the video, feels like he’s ignoring that primal strike is mathematical bis
Mate of mine said it’s bis with fast kill times.
@@mirawenya that's cuz he spent too much gold making it
MC hit scope is still a great option if you are lacking, yes you lose out on a little bit of extra dmg but unless you are a turbo nerd and want to min max the tits off TBC I’d say it’s still very strong
the item,vengeancewrap can not be the BIS for hunter,no agility..
Leatherworking bracers are almost as good as nightfall, the blue quality mail ones
Big boiiii
your geming is slightly wrong, you don't actually need 4 different gems to cover the 2 yellow and 2 blue requirement of the meta gem, 2x green will count as all 4
If you use 2 green gems then you're not getting AP or agi from them, so it sucks.
@@Forty2de you do 2 green gems when you can smash everything else with reds.
Bruh there is blue cape from normal dungeon giving hit,crit and attack Power from slabs 😊
I feel really useless as sv atm cause no one wants to play physical damage classes 😂
Remember, some guilds will keep a SV hunter around for the Expose Weakness debuff. You're a unique ❄ ^_^
@@lilox3690 Thats why i wanted to play sv originally, to provide some extra support to the raid. But it seems all those warriors and rogues rerolled to elemental shams and warlocks. I guess my Server is a bit fucked^^
Dude I got a 24 agi claw of agility... 15 agi 39 with kings like 44 agi - so 44 agi/atkpwr 1 crit plus a weightstone ... think that may be better than kara dagg
@@orestisdedopoulos9251 haha you're too right. I completely forgot about one of the agility bonuses when I calculated and it's definitely better. The green was pretty good though
what? 2handed is 75 agi not 65 making it better for survival
i came!
Some good shieeeeeet
I love you Lmao
The old orc models are my favorit, ugh hate new models.
Sheeeet
that set isn´t very good for t5 progression or long fights, no well rounded stats (low hp mana) also 1600 ap is really low, there are sets out there with 26% crit and 1800ap. As for the survival spec there is a set with 800agi near 9k hp and 7k mana, 2050ap and 30% crit, better than that 1.60% extra crit. Beast lord falls off for survival.
What set and what build for survival is optimal?
LOL sunny d or sum shit
hunter jesus is not with me. no beastlord drops up until this point.
Lol same... 5 SV and no beastlord dropped... Sheeeiiitt
@@knarf427 i must have pleased hunter jesus for i have received two of the 5 pieces that would allow me access to hunter heaven