A tutorial on the Break-Action | Helldivers 2
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Is the Break-Action Shotgun fun? Yes.
Is the Break-Action Shotgun good? Not especially.
Herein I provide a pretty thorough tutorial on this niche little Easter egg weapon in Helldivers 2. I’ve intentionally not gone into tactics and techniques on this one, and focused more on just how to use it and what its for and what it can do. There’s not especially much to say about getting the most out of this gun other than understanding good positioning and leveraging stealth.
I hope you have a bit of fun playing with this toy the next time you see it.
Take care!
00:00 Fun bit
00:28 Intro
01:32 The Basics
02:41 Performance
04:02 Key Targets
08:10 Tips, Tricks and Idiosyncrasies
09:58 Build 1
12:00 Build 2
13:57 Recommendations
15:02 Outro - Ігри
Break-Action shotgun is my "secondary secondary weapon"
I told my gaming group I tried it out on a number of solo missions when the random game finder was broken a few weeks ago and my review was 'not bad, but there's a reason it's always next to a dead body'.
Lmao thats very appropriate
Essentially yeah.
Isn't the implication that the farmer only died when he ran out of ammo since it's always empty when we find it? Based farmer going down swinging!
true. the chad was killing everything until he ran out of ammo@@morgatron4639
LMAOOOO
Your destroyer crew would probably love to know that everytime they're sending a supply drop to you, it's all going into this thing.
Super buckshot isn't cheap. It requires free people to work hard to manufacture and supply it! That way it can bounce off anything in medium armor ;^)
**yeah supply? I need 40 rds of .00 super buck shot**
*You didn't dive with any shotguns?*
**Yep**
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329All of the monstrous logistics involved in an orbital drop, all for two boxes of Walmart white box.
Well the best way to mitigate this is to drop in a supply pack immediately, that way you can stay helping your team until you find one, then dump at least one pack into it, along with the nearest ammo can.
@@cousinzeke4888 This is a fuckin comedic gold comment
Finally, no talk of meta, no malding at updates. Just a super farmer living his best life for democracy
IMO that's peak gameplay.
Would have to agree
OH MUH GURD THE BREAKER GOT RUINED
Meanwhile I'm still killing everything with it and my autocannon
Man I love the AC. All the railcannon users sad while I'm out here sniping bot factories at 1000 meters. @@Tom_Cruise_Missile
Feel the same way, lots of these other videos show content creators in the video still shot with a surprised look on their face and their hands in the air with a header that says “THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!” …. Like bro, calm down
If it becomes a stratagem you can unlock, it should be unlocked if you pick one up off the ground and bring it back to the ship with you.
That's peak game progression IMO.
find the shovel
I LOVE this idea!
I think a stratagem Shotgun would be sick… maybe like an auto slugger…
@@PotatoWhyKidno no lets go full BF3 and add a usas-12 with frag rounds
The concept of a farmer with a mech to fight bugs is the premise of an episode of Love, Death, & Robots titled "Swarm War"
Was great, recently watched it.
*calls in a mech*
TIME TO GIVE THEM BUGS HELL
"... he loved three things..." *lists four things*
I think you're the first person that noticed that joke, or at least the first that said anything.
@@Reginald-sc9tkThat joke is what got my sub lol
Never let them know your next move
Counting was never on the list
The fourth thing he loves is those 3 things
First game had a break action shotgun as a selectable primary, “Double Freedom” it also had a dragon’s breath modification which made if pretty fun to use
That sounds extra fun.
Black ops ruined generations with the "dragon's breath" name, like bro its incendiary
@@hecc7906 yeah but it sounds cooler, so shush
@@hecc7906 The first incendiary shotgun ammunition, commonly known as Dragon's Breath, emerged in the 1970s and 1980s. These 12-gauge rounds were filled with a mixture of magnesium and other pyrotechnic compounds that created a short-range flame upon firing.
It's a real thing. Black ops just added it to their game.
Replying to the OP. I'm suspecting they will add modifications to weapons in HD2 as well.
Level 1 and 2 solo missions can be relaxing. Plus they give you a chance to search for stashes with Medals, requisition/Super Credits at your leisure
I enjoy taking a leisurely fight with only a few squads of bots or bugs from time to time. No risk of getting ambushed by 70 hulks.
Grinding that 1k for TMR, gonna do it only using break action now
With the current kicking epidemic, I'm probably going to resort to this for a little bit. Sample collection wasn't happening anyway at haz7 and up, so the least I can do is have some actual fun on lowbie content.
Hey, that's not bad! Why I didn't think of that? Thanks man! That's gonna make the game more relaxing and change the pace a bit.
lv1 is best way to farm exp and money. speedwise.
The ol' double barrel being a strategem that's automatically equipped when you exit your hellpod would be a great idea. It might be a really smooth gameplay experience when taking the Expendable anti-tank strategem as well.
Would be nice for EATs too. Good point.
A booster that lets you always spawn in with a third weapon could be interesting
Thats an interesting idea
So interesting.
@@epicwinningy are u so mad lol
I could see that being fun. Add some more weapons that are too weak to be primaries or are just fun joke weapons (maybe like a bolt action rifle, single shot grenade launcher, or crossbow) and when you spawn you get a random weapon from this pool. Makes you much more reliant on your team dropping an extra weapon for you or one of the random POI weapons but at least that slot isn't totally empty.
@@epicwinningwtf is your problem hahaha
You must be fun at parties 🙄
Flamethrower and gas strike fits so well when you are a farmer using pesticides in a world where giant bugs exist and flame throwers for weeds on jungle worlds would absolutely be in their arsenal.
I feel like you get me here.
Eagle gas strike would be an amazing fit for this. It's just the ol' crop-duster dropping my special blend of pesticides!
I mean honestly this is pretty realistic for a break action shotgun.
It's also everything you'd need for personal defense
Tight spread to hit targets far away so you can hit them before they see you, hard hitting projectiles that can shred pretty tough materials, and it seems pretty well built and cheap to produce.
Maybe that's why every break action you find is out of ammo. The shotgun was just so effective at it's job that every user of it was able to fight until they simply ran out of ammo and got overrun
You're definitely not wrong.
They die surrounded by ammo usually :o,
Bringing the EAT-17 is how I often wind up using the break action for a laugh until I can find something better lying around or get something from a friend. It gives me something somewhat more usable than the EAT against lights and mediums when I burn my primary and secondary down.
I've done this as well and its definitely a good way to go.
EATS are so fun, I always use one after throwing a respawn, giving the squad a support weapon right away. I throw them anywhere just because. Everyone gets a rocket launcher. Try and kill enemies with the drop once a minute? Yes plz
I love how they used the hammer and break action toggle to look like a ram skull with horns in first person, if that was intentional that's amazing art design
Oh I missed that, ill have to go look. That sounds awesome.
I don't see it
5:43 I don't see it.
MG is very useful on higher tiers, it's great for clearing hordes better than any other primary, and hordes are something most people don't really build fore because they're all too hyper-focused on heavy armor and end up struggling to not be overwhelmed. And you can still take down elites with strategems and EATs which have a very fast cooldown.
I think its inferior to other options. Why not take a flamer, arc thrower or grenade launcher? If you take an eagle air strike you can always massively thin out a horde that your primary spam cannot. I'm not saying the MG is bad, but I don't see it as maximally optimal. Not that I'm out here arguing for playing maximally optimal.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I think it does have some advantages over flamer/grenade launcher, arc thrower is probably just better for sure besides friendly fire reasons
flamer: the flamer doesn't kill things immediately and doesn't stagger them at all, making it so you cannot prevent calling for reinforcements with it, plus the MG can be very long ranged, also the mg can last a little longer before having to reload, though it is a lot less mobile (though it also doesn't set you on fire if you try to use it in ultra close range in a pinch)
grenade launcher: grenade launcher is probably just better, but you do have to reload it pretty frequently, the mg is a better sustained weapon dedicated to taking out smaller enemies, without risk of accidentally killing yourself (or teammates) if an enemy gets just a little bit too close to you
here’s hoping we get shotgun support weapons in the future, because once that leaked suppressed assault rifle drops, I am 100% never using another primary.
Yea at least against bots. Hit and run guerrilla strats are amazing against them. Bugs? More specifically Stalkers? A bit less so.
Man I want suppressed smgs so bad.
Finally! Someone made it, a review of this shotty.
I definitely dove as deep as I could figure out!
I like the way you play the game as a game. Nowdays, thats an example. And nice that you put time analyzing the Breaker, it was worthy and useful.
I appreciate that a lot, I try to pass that energy to other people. If you play max level long enough in any PvE game you start wanting to do weird stuff to make it fun so thats what I encourage. Meta is for when you're new.
Support weapons like the machinegun are both viable and extremely helpful at higher levels. Teams with only anti-tank weaponry will get overrun by chaff, and specializing into clearing that on such a team is way better than bringing a 4th whatever flavor of the month everyone is into.
In my experience in 9s its not the chaff that are the problem, you can clear them easily with primaries, grenades and stratagems. Its the heavies and elites that mostly end runs badly. Not that you shouldn't play what you want, obviously.
Grenade launchers are coveted in difficulty 7+ for their chaff clearing capability. When you have 30+ light enemies swarming you, being able to kill them by the dozens is invaluable, and it's worth sacrificing some AT capability. You still typically want at least 2 guys with AT weapons though.
The LMG is slightly inferior to the grenade launcher for clearing chaff, but it also has much deeper ammo reserves which makes it viable regardless.
Now that they've changed the spawnrates of chargers and titans, my group has found that we actually need some dedicated horde clearing on 8+ bug missions, usually an LMG or grenade launcher. We usually always have at least 1 set of EATs so they can always just grab a launcher if something really need to die too.
Broke: chargers and biletitans are ruining my game
Woke: **FRIKKIN HUNTERS**
stalwart on 1150 RPM with a supply pack. shoot as many bullets as you possibly can. most fun combo in the game imo
Bro, that intro could totally fit into the tv propa- uhhh I mean, motivational recruitment ads on the destroyers.
Thats kinda what I was aiming for!
Something to note: if you dont have a special, its totally worth picking up. you burn through alot of ammo in higher difficulties, so having another weapon to pull from even just for standard use is really nice.
An excellent point actually
00:19 peerfect video dude
I was thrilled when I got that footage. It was my last game before I started cutting.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Nothing like some skeet shootin' brother
_YEEEEE HAAWWWW_
The amount of research, editing and overall effort that went into this video is pretty damn outstanding. Content creators usually do not really put both research and effort into this type of content, but you do, which I value and find refreshing. Good job man.
Thank you very much. I try to make sure to deliver as much information density as I can with these tutorials. HD2 is new to me so I'm still working out the right questions to ask. I appreciate your comment a lot. See you out there!
On Difficulty 6 and lower, I actually like to free up a strat slot I'd normally use for a support weapon, and take a double barrel off the floor as a second secondary until I find another weapon like an Arc Thrower or Machine Gun elsewhere on the battlefield. Scavenging for a support weapon is actually a pretty fun and economical way to play if you know what you're doing. Just be sure to pack something in your newly freed stratagem slot to help you fight heavy armour.
I agree, I think on lower level games it's a pretty viable strategy.
The Devs should make melee weapons findable like the break action.
I want a sabre
That would be super fun. I keep seeing bots killed by shovels. I should be able to do that.
Swords, shovels, pitchforks, maybe even lightsabers/laser swords! That would be a ton of fun. Or you could get a Helldivers version of the automaton sword where it would be like yellow.
@@ClashGold-2560 GIANT GOLD SWORD
@@Reginald-sc9tkah, a fellow kriegsman I see
@reginald you got me with the break action in the stratagem purchase screen i literally logged in to make sure i wasnt crazy
I spent an inordinate amount of time on that, not even gonna lie.
I think what the true speciality of Helldivers is its ability to get us involved into its world. I feel like I’m not just playing a game but entering into a world where I want to play the part 😂
I really like that about it.
Just wanna say that this is actually pretty creative content thanks for making this, really breaks the monotony of all the HD2 videos I’ve been consuming so far (i have a problem)
You sir have earned yourself a subscriber
I really appreciate that! They're very fun to make, especially the little story sections.
Never mess with the farmers. They always win
Control the food supply, control the SEAF dominion
@Reginald-sc9tk also willing to spray industrial amounts of cow poop at gov buildings
It is almost harvesting season
Me sowing shotgun shells, but reaping robocorpses
Whatever it takes to get those dirty socialist automatons out of power!
I would love the break-action as a primary. Maybe one day...
me too. Someone here suggested the idea of swappable ammo and that sounds awesome.
@Reginald-sc9tk dragons breath for crowds and slugs for armor
I appreciate the attention to detail from the developers to have this weapon not just exist in the game, but be fully functional with multiple reload animations and everything.
I appreciate your time & effort actually using the the thing, as well.
Thanks very much!
I felt like I was picking this gun up all the time during my first week with the game but rarely seem to find it now, might just be that my focus has changed and I don't spend as much time looking around though.
Whenever I do pass I though I will always snag it, even dumping my support weapon for it if I feel the team and I are doing okay and I can mess around. It would be kinda cool if it spawned in with a bit more ammo, like 10 spare shots could make it become a real saving grace for when you are low on ammo just trying to scurry away and need a few powerful shots to get rid of those few stubborn pursuing Berserkers.
Lore-Wise it makes sense, it is no doubt pretty cheap to produce and gives just enough kick for a worker to bring down the first charging bot or bug. I am really excited to see if we get a few more of these random weapons dotted around, some simple 1 shot slug shotgun could be cool or some unique looking personal defence weapons/fancy pistols around high value citizen bodies.
I would love to see more easter eggs like this for sure.
I really like these tutorials on the not-so-fully-understood weapons and utility of the game, like this and the ballistic shield.
Thanks very much! Obviously I'm limited by the available content in terms of weird gear but I'll do some normal stuff too with the same attention to detail.
love seeing you get the views man. Absolutely deserved.
Playing Helldivers recently and trying to find good content for it has only made me appreciate my fav DT and FGC creators more. It's a jungle of terrible research, screaming delivery, and weird chud overtones out there in the wider YT space. But your stuff? Always super well researched, full of implementable tips, and a very calm delivery with a few shots of humor. Perfect. Gotta let the people doing it right know they're appreciated.
I really appreciate your feedback. I've been watching some of the other tubers around to see what the broader community thinks and understands and it is kinda interesting. I feel grateful for cutting my teeth on darktide, it was a good space to develop a style in.
I've found that the EAT works pretty well with the shotgun. The expendable and quick cooldown nature allows you to keep an anti tank option in your pocket where you drop the shotgun and pick up the EAT to quickly deal with a huge threat, and then you pick up the shotgun again. This effectively allows you to run 4 weapons - primary, secondary, and 2 supports.
It is a bit weaker in the rp aspect, but I like to head canon as leftover munitions that my diver has access to.
I entirely vibe eats for this build and for paring with the shotty.
Break action shotgun in first person mode just feels good to shoot with, I just wish it was a pump with like 7 shots or so
A nice tube fed with its profile would feel great.
be like that one guy from aliens and bring a family heirloom ithaca
Loving these tutorials mate keep up the good work and have a good day, god bless you brother
Thanks very much! I hope to have another one done pretty soon. Might take a detour to talk about the new weapons a bit.
Quality craftsmanship on the video.
Sturdy, robust, dependable break the enemies lines in two actions!
Quality post with excellent flavorful text.
What a well crafted and thorough video it left no questions unanswered.
Thank you very much, I did what I could to catch everything. I'm sure I'll be mad about something I missed eventually.
I wish it was a primary slot, not secondary - I'd run it way more often if it was.
Ditto.
Hope they turn it into a primary honestly, it'd be so fun
Agreed. Just let me play with this silly toy.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Quad-Barrel variant?
Funny timing for this video. I started picking up and using this shotgun for fun while helping newbies just 2 days ago, and I was a little curious about the "stats". Thanks for the intel, buddy xD
Happy to do it! Wish I had managed to derive a real damage value.
I was running away from a group of hunters at very low HP, out of all ammo and stamina. That gun saved my life
I really like the idea of a 'weak' stratagem that spawns with you as compensation!
I also had the idea, not sure how hard it would to implement, for having more stratagem slots, but have stronger ones cost more slots. So instead of say 4 slots, give 6, but make Rail Guns and Shield Packs cost 2 slots instead of 1 (and maybe some even 3 slots, like the mech, if they are super powerful).
That way, someone who wants to 'play tall' can take three 2-slot stratagems but misses out on flexibility, whereas someone who wants to 'play wide' can take up to 6 stratagems, none of which are necessarily amazing on their own, but the ability to have so many means you have more utility/niche potential.
Considering how much the game assumes you will rely on stratagems, and how difficult it is to make them all balance against one another when they all have the same slot cost, giving more slots but making the 'best' choices multi-slot opens up a whole new dimension for balance and opportunity cost.
Basically a points buy system, not a bad idea
@@Reginald-sc9tkYeah, it could be defined that way, sure!
8:05 I like how the patrol just casually spawns in like 2 metres behind thats so cool
Man I hate that pop in stuff. Feels awful.
Flamethrowers fit perfectly! They're already farm equipment used to clear dead brush.
Wow! What a unique and fun video. Great job dude!
Glad you had a good time! That was what I was gunning for.
Would be interesting if they added a bayonet at the end of it for longer melee range
Think of the REACH
Based revolver user
Just wish that the sight was better and it used the default aiming reticle
Maybe we will see weapon customization later
Yeah, better optics on the revolver would be great. I actually have grown to rather like it into bots and bugs because it hits so hard.
Your proposal is neat, I would only amend it that, to keep it easter-eggy you either have to only use that support weapon for a full game or extract with it to unlock it; that would make more people experience the frontier lifestyle
You earned my subscription love the video it's just different, I didn't even notice it wasn't a normal support weapon or primary.
Thanks very much! I'm grateful that you enjoyed the video enough to subscribe.
finally ... someone covering hd2 stuff that informs with very consise organization.. great narration too
Thanks very much! I'm still polishing up my formula so if there's anything I missed you might want to know about future guns let me know.
It is a decently fun double-barrelled shotgun, but it really should go in the primary slot
That is another way to do it
One plus is that if you use that as a support weapon you can save an additional stratagem slot, which can be pretty darn useful
Definitely. While my builds didn't go that way it certainly is an option. Its also a good pairing with EATs.
Hopefully the double freedom from hd1 comes to hd2 it was an absolute beast close range, very simular to the break action.
That sounds awesome
It’s fun to use this with a guard dog.
Thats a great idea
I love using break/lever actions in games so I really hope they make it a stratagem as you described. It's definitely bad enough as a weapon that giving it to you on redeployment would not be busted, and it would be super nice to be able to just take the weapon when you want it!!
I'm glad you agree! An alternative could be making it a full stratagem with swappable ammo. Flechette for medium pen, slug for precision fire, etc.
Hell yeah with including it as a default support weapon, or at least something you can equip without taking up a real strategem slot, or have it be free like the mechs were for a few days, standard issue for all Helldivers.
I always pick it up on 4/5 bug eradication because it's right there, great at pot-shotting Hunters without eating your regular ammo, and a double blast to take off a Commander's head. Love the little thing, great little back-up.
I love running the thing, it's just amusing.
Really amazing guide i was wondering whats sup with this gun i just found it once shot it thought it was cool and went back to whatever support wepon i was using at the time lol i feel like it would be so so much more fun if it replaced your primary wepon instead of support
I hope it gets a few upgrades and becomes a primary.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I don't think it should get upgrades and such everybody likes a rare silly meme gun but again replacing a support wepon its just never gonna be used but as primary then it's gonna more usable idk it just seem like such a no Brainer that I feel they have a reason for not doing that
I like to run this weapon with the revolver when playing with low level divers who are trying to learn the game. Due to it's low capacity and decent stopping power, I can help out without steamrolling everything. It's also fun to roleplay as a scav who dropped with nothing but a revolver xD
Honestly more games need a way to "downgear" when playing with friends.
i think theres an achievement for beating hard with only the secondary
A wonderful log to add to the armory database, Keep Spreading Freedom™ Helldiver!
I do it for the democracy we make along the way!
I think this loadout could be decent on the current patch. The change in enemy variety puts more emphasis on needeling to thin out crowds, and the medium targets in them.
If your team can cover for heavies, this allows you to focus the medium units which can pose a threat to them.
I think thats the big thing. It honestly plays very well for me when I bring reasonable stratagems and team mates to back it up. Not that bad of a gun.
4:00 Break action has the super-full choke lol
Bold of you to assume higher level lobby players don't use machine guns, they do, and they die alot lol
Well, maybe I should have been more clear that I was discussing what was optimal in relation to why this gun isn't a good choice. But yes, I've seen it too.
absolute amazing video man, app. the effort.
I'm surprised and happy it got such a positive reception. I certainly had fun making it.
i mostly play on lv 9 now and forgot this was a thing because i haven't seen it in months, wish you could call it in now and just have it. especially now that we have stuff like the explosive sniper primary now for med targets.
also for the ending talking about the gas in the build, farmers use planes to crop dust so it makes perfect sense
can you do a vid on the revolver? that gun needs some love
I do love me the revolver. I'll see what I can do.
I would argue they should just slap it in as a primary one day. It's not gonna compete, but it's something! And gives you more ammo to start.
Still waiting on them to port the M2016-Constitution from Helldivers 1.
(It's just a 1903 Springfield rifle reproduction and given to super citizens who turn 16 to encourage service later in life)
1. Yes
2. Give me a 1903 Springfield in helldivers right now!
I've grabbed one a couple times on missions where I'm bringing EAT instead. Nice to have some tips on best use. :)
Love your videos, man. Look at that bullet drop!
Thanks man! Can't wait for your next one. I wanted to do analysis on drop over distance but decided that was overkill.
Cowboy shotgun guide released
We eating good now
Send me a lever action rifle and we're golden.
I want it to be a selectable primary.
Ditto.
On the subject of armor, you could also easily justify the medium Legionnaire set. The description says that it was worn by the precursors to the Helldivers. It's totally believable that a farmer would have some old armor that's been passed down through the generations as a family heirloom.
Definitely could
Just adding it into the game for 1000 requisition would make me pick it up instantly . I've used it up to level 5 and I love that thing
Gul-durn’! This here’s a qual-a-TAY vidya ! 👨🌾
Perty good iffa do say so meself!
I's just herein makin' stuff I like is all.
There’s a great Farmers vs bugs episode in love death and robots 😂
Someone else mentioned it so I went to watch it, it was great.
Punisher is just so good I can't give it up, surprisingly decent at range. And I can't wait to try out the Plasma Punisher.
Plasma punisher was kinda dissapointing. I think the Blitzer has a better feel but isn't too good either.
I actually really enjoyed running around the maps with the break action if I did find it, but farmer builds was far from thought. It's a definitely a fun build that I'm down to try out, just because the idea of a farmer being armed along helldivers sounds badass lmao
It'd be the funniest thing if this shotgun got medium armor pen. It'd be one goofy ass shotgun and probably more fun to use.
I'm down for that honestly. Why not?
You absolutely can run MG at higher level difficulties, if there a lot of chargers/bile titans - drop EAT and use rail cannon/500kg bombs. that it.
Hell i even say that it makes it much easier to have 1-2 people with MGs or grenade launchers, because they would clean all the adds leaving only armored targets as easy pick offs
I certainly didn't say you couldn't run it. I think I said something like its suboptimal. Which it is. I run it because I like it and it's not like its without advantages but there are several primaries that can more or less handle the same problems.
@Reginald-sc9tk saying the MG is sub optimal is wild. Do you want 4 people with them , no. But having a teammate with the MG can make higher levels so much less stressful with the amount small enemies that spawn , especially after the patch. The MG is only suboptimal if your looking at the game from a single player view.
@@Reginald-sc9tk they absolutely not.
MG have medium penetration and insane DPS, unlike breaker - it wouldnt struggle with bile spewers for example, decapitating them in like 3 hits, and unlike other weapons that do the same it have enoght sustained fire to deal with whole horde.
It even might be more optimal to use MG43+EAT drop (since they oneshot chargers now, and 2 to the head kill bile titan) to quick swap instead of nerfed railguns or flamethrower that is weird to use.
You can absolutely wreck bugs as 4, all runing this setup at Helldive
@@Reginald-sc9tkYeah buddy. My nearly 800 kills with the MG in a single mission for my team was very suboptimal.
If it is a stratagem, they may want to consider deploying a full 4-man-set instead of a single one. That would give a good reason to actually pick it, as then one person could supply an entire team with a support weapon, if people don't anticipate needing bigger ones for everyone else.
This shit saved my life earlier today. I was retreating from a group of bots, no ammo in my primary, no grenades and my eagle was still a minute out. I dove into a mortar hole, rockets streaking over my head. I see the weapon pickup icon and lo and behold its a "break action shotgun?" I didnt have time to think i popped over and started blasting. Managed to down most of the grunts and a few devs before being forced to retreat using my last stim as im raked with fire from the closing hulk and rest of the devastators. I slid behind a rock watching the counter "5, 4, 3, 2, 1". I never input a stratagem faster than i had in that moment, stepped back and lobbed it, perfect stick right on the hulks dome. Eagle one swooped down like an angel of death and lit those clankers up, used the ol shotgun to finish up the two devestators.
Great story of valor
im just sad the break action isnt a stratagem
Me too!
When people say "...capacity to play the game build" i feel a little sad, because it tells me that there are people who feel, despite reality, that they cant win without meta builds. I pity the world theyve built in their heads.
Funmaxxing is the meta anyway
When i first started playing, finding this for the first time felt like a godsend- nothing you have at the lower levels can deal with bile spewers effectively except for your precious, precious grenades, and they were therefore terrifying. Figuring out that this could double tap them made my early games a lot less scary up to getting the grenade launcher, when anything short of a charger or a hulk became child's play.
Bonus to the theme with the flamethrower, the most common modern use of the flamethrower is to clear out brush, so a farmer on the frontier having one isn't that much of a stretch.
Good point
Break action should be an optional stratagem. Even if it is a bad gun
Please I want it so bad
Agreed! Funmaxxing.
Nice rootin' tootin' video there Cowboy.
Honestly it is a really entertaining way to play.
i could see if it being a stratagem having a short cooldown (compaired to the other non expendable support weapons) causing it to have a nice niche. it would be a decent choice for missions where you know you will die a lot and trying to recover your stuff every time being unrealistic, like blitz missions where you all split up
It’s a great pickup when going in on a build with no support stratagems. At that point any support weapon is a boon and it can tide you over until you find something better. 2 extra kills before you have to reload everything in a firefight can mean the difference between life and death
AT can mostly be handled by other strategems, so if you’re scrappy enough you can get through pretty much any situation. And then you have a free space for any support weapon you find on the way.
This applies all the way to helldive
I would use the shit out of the break action if I could take it as a primary instead of support. Same as the stalwart. Its just not good enough to replace any of the alternatives as my support weapon. I've had arguments about the stalwart but its always going to be a worse machine gun to me because of the lack of any penetration. It would be awesome as a primary to handle waves and waves of enemies, but so can the machine gun and it can kill more because of the pen.
As much as i love the idea, Stalwart would be way too broken as a primary. They’d have to give it a serious disadvantage, otherwise it’s all anyone would use.
I mean it worked as a primary in the first game. Started out inaccurate but became more accurate as you sustained fire. Not everyone used it then and you'd still have people not use it now because of it's lack of penetration.
I think we could also upgrade the shotty to just be a better stratagem.
an upgrade that just lets you tape addition break actions together would be both fun and hilarious
i know with the tight clustering, its more of a ranged option, but i think it would be cool if it penetrated light armor on melee or something, just to employ another underutilized mechanic
great video, i love playing games thematically instead of optimally lol
I agree with your thoughts on adding it as an auto-equipped support weapon - I don't think it would be unbalanced, you'd still need to use up a whole stratagem slot to bring it which is a large sacrifice. Only problem I have with it is how you'd communicate to a new player that it's the only support weapon that you're deployed with, given every other support weapon has to be called. Not everyone can talk to another player about that sorta thing, so the game would need a way to portray it.
Break action shotgun is certainly a fun one to pick up though :D
I suppose they could just say it in the stratagem description. I've heard people say it would be a fun booster.
The best reason to use this is if you, like me, run some builds with no support weapon strat. I have a few where I just load up on attack strats or one with a mech and some turrets. In that case, I just use whatever weapon I find on the map and if it's a break action shotgun, than I use a break action shotgun
And in that case, which is a good one I think, players like us will be able to have a better sense of how to use it. Which is great.
All Super Earth citizens are given a bolt action rifle for a coming of age,
I can't wait for that gun to appear in the game alongside this shotgun.
Thats my ideal load out.
I like the thought of playing as a farmer who found the gear of a fallen helldiver and the super destroyer is happy to fire upon coordinates called in from this new hero. Suddenly wielding the power of a god, but with trusty shotgun still in hand.
Its a great sort of headcannon to make your games more thematic right?
An irl flamethrower would be extremely easy for a farmer to make. They already have two types of liquid despensers on hand, fertilizer/pesticide sprayers, and irrigation equipment. The video game/hollywood style one, they already have that. It's called a weed burner.
Honestly, in the Helldiver universe, I would be surprised if frontier farmers weren't required to both possess multiple types of flamethrowers and undergo periodic training and practice with them. Generous application of the Fires of liberty is only pesticide that can be 100% effective. Everything melts, burns or evaporates eventually. Frontier farmers must rely on fire to defend themselves from the infinitely variable unknown weeds and critters of anarchy.
Honestly this was a fun read and I appreciate the information. Glad my intuition was on target.
I like to play what I call the "MGS" approach and deploy without a supprt weapon in favor for an extra stratagem. And then use whatever I can find in the field. So ive used a break action a fair number of times. It served me well enough in a pinch.
I think that's a fun way to play