The Cultural Revolution in China & America | with Erica Li
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Erica Li's parents survived the Chinese Cultural Revolution and eventually migrated with her to the United States. She is now keenly aware of parallels between current DEI mandates in medicine and what occurred in her country of origin.
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Thank you Benjamin!
Ms. Erica …. I hope that you will be joining us in chat today. It is alway’s nice to get those little clarifications and some follow up questions from us BenHeads 😺
@@NinjaKittyBonks NinjaKITTAH!
Thank you Erica. You showed a lot of Courage coming on here.
@@MasterMalrubius “Respect my authorikittayyyyy” 😺
I've not heard many ppl speak on the Chinese cultural revolution besides Lily Tang Williams. Glad to hear another perspective on it. The more ppl that share those experiences the more ppl can't dismiss them. Thanks for the great conversation!
Thank you for your work, Mr. Boyce and Dr. Li.
Mrs. Something else! I didn't take my husband's last name. Otherwise, Dr. or Ms. Li. :)
@@ericaeli3807 Yes, my apologies.
Oh looking forward to this Benjamin! And thank you SO much for all the work that you’ve been doing.
My pleasure, Jess!
Pleasure listening to the discussion on medical ethics and professionalism as I will be practicing medicine soon enough. Also will be checking out Dr. Li’s website. Thank you both
Where do you find these guests?
She's amazing !!
I really enjoyed this guest. After my limited reading of the Chinese Cultural revolution, I have felt chilling parallels in our current times. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful guest with us. People who come from different places have a clear vision of our current danger. I will be sharing this interview with many.
Thank you to you both.
Things are getting very sketchy around here... and they only seem to get worse
Wonderful conversation.
The same music in every school…
Was it a lot like the CoV-19 repetitive messages in every aspect of daily life from grocery stores to schools?
Lovely guest, I like her a lot.
Thank you!
@@ericaeli3807 No problem! Thanks for sharing :)
35:49 Of course group exercise fosters group cohesion. Armies have known this for thousands of years.
Wow let me say this: Li's story is some traumatic stuff for Chinese. I've sat in 'Struggle Session' buildings and learned far more than I wish I knew about The Cultural Revolution. Naive Ameriacns and Canadians (esp Canadians are now going for it, full-on) they just don't know how ugly, how mentally-ill, how evil this gets. Li gets it.
The show I saw before quitting tv & movies was a doctor show where an older black doc who was the head of the hospital was pulled aside by 2 intern docs bc he misgendered a trans person. This was just before the whole thing popped off.
Was this Grey’s Anatomy? Used to love that show but had to stop watching because of the terrible woke writing. Its not even about the characters anymore. It’s about “messaging.”
@@LadyHawke78 yes I couldn't remember the name. It was a while ago before I became woke AF (lol)& I remember just blowing up bitching how effed up the whole "situation" was based on a multitude of factors that are inherent in Chinese Marxism but didn't really realize it or it's purpose then. Now I can't unsee the propaganda & haven't watched anything remotely "network" or mainstream since. I really don't miss it.
Thanks for another very interesting interview! Unfortunately, nothing that Erica said really surprised me - the comparisons of our own times with the Cultural Revolution have been obvious for several years, and - without intending any disrespect - the medical profession changed its remit from the treatment of disease to social engineering many decades ago, so seeing it wholeheartedly embracing the new ideology should not come as a shock.
Still, getting the facts out to a wider audience is always important.
I am beyond horrified by that story about the client expressing his problems in a metaphor. Surely, that is the end of talking therapy as we know it.
Freedom is why people immigrate to America, it must be protected
You should get her parents on for an interview
They don’t speak much English
Wellcome to the Boyce of reason... say it again ..please...
Looks like we found the name for all the Benjamin Boyce viewers "The Black Category"
The Black Boycey Bois
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I feel like Dr. Li could also be a standup comic.
I have been told so!
❤️
Which part was particularly funny?
You just have the demeanor of a comedian. Even though you’re talking about serious things, it still feels a little like you’re doing a standup set. Maybe bc you are so matter of fact, or you’re talking about things that if one didn’t laugh, or find the the absurdity in, you’d cry.
@@ericaeli3807 You are pretty funny. Keep making more content!
Wow, a very interesting perspective on experiencing woke tyranny advancing in society. This level-headed lady would have had much more to say, I'm sure. I would have liked to know how her family maintained religious practice under pressure in China and after immigration to the US. How did that feel, how did religion influence Erica's thinking and values? Could there be another talk about finding personal values and consciousness development? And how that effects social engagement?
So weird. About the time Erica was born, I was in a dorm with about 5 professors from a college in Guangxi. There was one guy who was the "party" guy, but not in the usual college dorm sort of way. He yelled at them when they got jobs and bought jeans. As I listen to this, I'm reading about the Mar a Lago raid. I'm thinking of that age old curse, "May you live in interesting times."
For the algo, and very interesting
Surprised Erica is not worried for her job appearing on this podcast.
Am I really that dangerous?
@@BenjaminABoyce oh yes! You are a very naughty boy. Nah, it's just a lot of staff are being 'disciplined' (scolded and threatened) for not complying with either the new staff code of conduct or federal directives.
I have been advised by HR that it is offensive to refer to websites that give a multifactorial analysis of women's earnings, or to suggest that it is in contravention of established laws to favour employees on the basis of sex.
They don't need to engage in communication, they just make claims and put you through the mill. Their aim is to get rid of employees that dare question what's going on.
It's pretty nerve wracking when your income and home are put on the line.
It's actually bullying and illegal, but anyone who's attempted to protect themselves from their employer by using the law knows they can kiss their job goodbye. HR will hound you untill you leave.
@@AndyJarman This is why we need to fight against efforts that are pushing for you to use your real name on social media.
When asked why her parents migrated to the USA from China, she says that it was for a better economic future for her. Then, she adds, of course, it was also for "freedom".
Reminded of Sandra Bullock's character in "Miss Congeniality" stating at the Beauty Pageant that she wished to see harsher punishments for parole violators and then adds 'and world peace'!
Bloody hilarious!
Freedom was the main reason. Economic opportunities isn’t as important as having a fair shot, which is impossible for Black Category people in China.
@@ericaeli3807 That still is economic reasons. Nothing to do with "freedom".
I lived in the US for a short while (4 years). So, I know how Americans expect immigrants to sing praises of the USA and demean their country of origin and how those who wish to continue to live there face the pressure to do so. Luckily for me, I never had such intentions, so felt no such pressure. Instead, I found it highly amusing and it continues to amuse me.
@@conscious_being "So, I know how Americans expect immigrants to sing praises of the USA and demean their country of origin and how those who wish to continue to live there face the pressure to do so."
lol wat. you mustve been hanging out with some strange characters. that really isn't the norm.
@@janissaryJames George Soros, the billionaire, was being interviewed and asked why he came to the USA. He said it was to make money. The interviewer asked "What about freedom?". Soros replied "I came to the West for freedom and the USA to make money". 😄
The USA is a nation of narcissistic psychopaths.
49:59
peter zeihan with his book the end of the world is just the beginning is the guy China collapse guy
The conversation about her job was interesting. About her parents and China, not so much. I would be interested in her memories of China but not in what she read about China or was told by "other" people.
Oh man, so sorry to have wasted your time. My sincerest apologies.
@@ericaeli3807
My time wasn't wasted. I thought your commentary on your life was motivational. It's inspiring to hear from someone who made good choices and is reaping the rewards. Especially the perspective of what you found interesting, the community etc, the influences on your choices.
That holds up a mirror to those who may have made bad choices, to figure out what has to change for them to be able to make good choices. Which is very helpful.
The other part which was not about your life was boring. Which doesn't make you boring, if you get my meaning. But if you're going to repeat boring stuff, be prepared to be found boring for doing that.
@@Teddypally If a massive 10-year conflict involving about 100 million victims, some of whom were executed by mobs in public after being dragged from their house, and then cannibalized by said mob out of sheer cruelty (Guanxi Massacre), is boring, I'm not sure what I could describe outside of my life that you would find not boring. But thanks for finding my life interesting. :)
@@ericaeli3807
Your perspective of your life is interesting to me because your life worked out for you.
I think when we want to make things better, we have to look at what worked. Some people may think that looking at what didn't work is the way to go. I don't happen to be one of those people. To me, that only generates fear, not hope.
Once I got over my fear, it became boring.
@@ericaeli3807
Consider, in your personal experience, was it the success of others that motivated you or their failures? What motivates an interest in the failures of others?
These are not questions I want your answer on, I have my own answers. But as my own answers have illuminated my thinking, your own answer may illuminate yours.