MY CRAZY Editing NAS Upgrade... feat. Asustor Lockerstor 6 Gen2 [as6706t]
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Sponsored Segment
0:43 Thanks to ASUSTOR & Seagate
1:00 NAS Specs
1:13 Why?
1:53 2 Things I wanted for NAS
2:44 What SSDs I'm using?
2:50 WHY use NAS rated SSDs?
4:29 +2x NVME SSDs?!?!
5:14 NAS Overview & Ports
6:11 WHY ASUSTOR NAS?
7:16 NAS Teardown
8:20 10Gbe Card upgrade...
9:02 Here's the CPU & RAM slots
9:44 Installing SSDs
10:35 Setting UP the NAS...
11:05 ASUSTOR is AWESOME!
11:20 IT DIDN'T WORK!!!!
12:30 Compatibility List & easy mistakes!
13:33 I'm using these HDDs
14:00 NAS Is Working & SSD Caching
14:48 How the NAS is set up?
15:30 Speed test (Crystal Disk Mark)
16:09 [HDD] Real world speed test [File Transfer]
17:25 5Gb Speed hack on 2.5Gb
22:17 Is it FAST enough for editing?
22:40 NAS SYNC cheat...
23:55 Exciting things coming!
24:17 Best PC to build for Creators!
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The smallest M.2 (cache) that you want in RAID 1 should be no smaller than two times your typical project size. 1 TB SSDs in a NAS .. I guess if it's all free.
NASs are better than sliced bread in the right environment. Multi user, with file restrictions and a network are the environment that they are the most useful. I had a company with about 20 employees. This meant 10 computers and a network. I didn't want my warehouse manager be able to view my accountant's files. A NAS was the perfect solution for me. I had a stroke and now there is just me in an apartment. No multiple users, no warehouse manager, no accountant, and no network. A NAS would probably work, but I really don't need that much complication or expense to do the things that I need to do. There are less complicated and less expensive things that will do what I need done. NAS manufactures seem to be more and more marketing to people like me. If you need a NAS, they are great, but there seem to be a lot of people buying them that don't need them.
We sell budget options for people who just want file storage but also want to remove the manual aspects of numerous things like backing up. Even if you are the only one in a house, a budget friendly NAS can streamline and take the guesswork out of things like, backing up, scheduling regular backups to external drives and cloud storage for maximum data protection, consumption of stored photos, audio and videos, games storage if using a laptop, archiving content creation hobbies and more. One might see it as a complex device, we prefer seeing it as a custom experience.
Every thing begins with compatibility and ends with stability..
Great stuff ❤❤
It's something we work very hard to strive for. We work with our hard drive partners extensively to test drives and bring that communications out to our site. Unfortunately we cannot control what drives the reviewer requests so when an issue is indeed found, we work around the clock to fix it. A fix for Seagate's Ironwolf drives should be coming soon.
Yes pls a tutorial of Nas Will be awesome It will be great to know how Asustor amd Qnap differ by how much. And also how raid works and how to setup it as required.
I would love to see you make a video on how to set up a NAS for a creator workflow
Yea please!
Facts
Loving these NAS videos
I have been binge watching you for 2 days straight absolutely love the content and insight especially the SSD TBW data that made me realize that my ssds are temporary thank you keep up the good work. God Bless
I have been eyeing the Asustor AS6704T 4-Bay NAS to upgrade my Synology 2-Bay. I would have to purchase two more Seagate 16TB drives to run it in RAID-6, and I already have a spare new WD Black 1TB NVMe drive for the cache. The Synology only has 1GBe so the Asustor 2.5GBe will be nice. I use my NAS strictly for one of four data backup methods for all of my workstations, so the NAS is only on for an hour at the end of the day while I do backups.
So I got the Asustor Lockerstor 4 Gen2 AS6704T and edit a lot of high quality, large file 4K videos. What’s the best upgrades for this? Increase RAM to 16? Add a couple 4 TB NVME Cards? Add a 10 Gbe? Thanks for the input…it’s my first NAS, and I need more speed, back up, storage and network access when out of town…hence this NAS. I currently only have 2 Seagate IronWolf Pro 20TB Enterprises in it too. 👍🏽
Nice - just cannot see myself going back to EXT4 - I've got an 8 Bay Synology 1817+ right now with BTRFS and its so damn good at checking for bitrot and other things I might just split my NAS requirements. Have one large HDD Storage with a smaller SSD/NVME NAS handling scratch/work things. The sooner high capacity SSDs appear the happier I will be.
Nice storage overall
But i see no port aggregation in network terms (bonding/teaming)
will be nice to see following in review: bandwidth and IO tests with all varieties with sata HDD/SSD and M.2 confugurations, linux mounts tests, data reduction and compression options.
I seem to recall Linus @ LTT having a similar issue w/ SSDs and some type of RAID application. Good luck getting that sorted!
Yes please a how to set up a NAS tutorial would be much appreciated! Also great stuff you basically built my newest rig aha
For my file servers lately i have been using the 960GB Optane drives, extreme performance, extreme write endurance, takes the write load off of SSDs, acts more like RAM, makes an array of HDDs feel like SATA SSDs
Edit, while the 960GB drives are much faster, and much better value(only costs 2x as much as the 120GB drive) the problem for most people is that the 960GB drive is not an M.2 drive, its a 15mm U.2 drive, which means your case needs to support both 15mm 2.5 inch drives, and you need to be able to run an M.2 to U.2 adapter cable to wherever the U.2 drive is mounted meaning you basically need to build your own NAS instead of just adding it to an existing NAS
For this ASUSTOR you could probably use the 120GB M.2 optane drives, but you're giving up a lot of storage, because these 120GB drives cost about as much as a high end 2TB NVMe. Yes Optane's response time means it acts more like RAM, but the capacity is so limited, and the write speeds lower than many gen3 drives.
I guess it depends on what you want to do with the M.2 slots, if you want to use them for caching the SATA drives, then go with Optane, much lower latency making it faster than an SSD for caching, but if you're wanting to make a SATA storage array, and an NVMe storage array, just get regular NVMe SSDs
build your own nas is really the only thing to do, if you have the ability
a single 960 optane is ~1/2 the cost of this asustor nas. their latency and endurance is of course legendary, but maybe too expensive for this case, provided that you can find them.
@@giornikitop5373 In the second section i go over why most people should buy the worse value 118GB drive because it is M.2 instead of U.2, and why it wouldnt work in this NAS.
I was giving the use case i have for Optane and if you can install it, the 905P 960GB are a better value, even if it is more than half the price of the NAS. I have 4 of them in my NAS accounting for more than half the cost, including the 7950X and ECC RAM.
The 118GB are $75 right now and would be a perfect fit for this NAS, and really the only way to get Optane in this NAS without having a tangled mess of adapters to go from M.2 to U.2
The 905P are still $400 so not as good of a value as when the $118GB was $219 but still a great value comparatively, almost 10x capacity, for 5x the price, i have a stack of 8 i'm just holding onto because i expect the stock to dry up and for no other tech to come close to the endurance of these until we get something like holographic storage, but that would be slow AF.
I want to be able to use my stock of them for 20+ years
Nice review and showing how to use both 2.5GB ports!
I'm guessing you will get 1GB/sec speed when you get the 10GB port installed and operational. 🤔
Please provide an updated video if/when that happens and you get the SSDs working. 🏎
We are absolutely working around the clock to fix this issue and we thank Tech Notice for finding this problem. We have identified the issue as a firmware issue and are working with our SATA controller partner for a fix. We will notify Tech Notice as soon as we fix and pass the drives in our tests.
We did not send the SSDs, the SSDs were of the UA-camr's decision.
@@ASUSTOR_YT did the 2 port 10gbe expansions ever get released? If so I would like to buy the Nas and expansions right now.
I'd like to cast a vote toward you doing a video on how to set up an SSD NAS.
where is the best place to buy the extra ram for the Asustor Lockerstor 4 Gen 2. it is really confusing online which is the correct ram to buy and where to get it uk if possible (can you put a link in the answer please).
Good video! My advice is to get synology 10gb onboard plus 2 nvme cache and also very reliable and user-friendly OS
Synology are great devices.
Absolutely would like for you to do a NAS tutorial PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Nice, but if you use 2.5 SSD drives is it a smaller NAS case available?
Asustor makes a series of NAS units called Flashstor that uses M.2 drives instead of 3.5/2.5-inch. But no model directly for 2.5-inch only.
I have a 2tb mechanical drive I haven't used. I wasn't sure what it could be used for anymore? is it fast enough for editing or simply just use it for junk files?
Use it as a backup perhaps? Keep a copy files safely offline and they will be protected from online threats like ransomware or user error.
Finally a video about nas using ssds instead of spinning hard drives, I have 2 samsung 860 evo sata ssd on my synology since it has slots for 2 hard drives but I'm trying to get my synology set up with jbod instead of raid but when I try to select jbod as an option, it's greyed out and it won't let me choose jbod since I don't wanna use raid. I use my nas with 4k, blu ray and dvd iso formats when I ripped the discs. Plex does not support the iso format. I use kodi and vlc since both of them support iso video formats. I want a 1 to 1 pit perfect copy that's why I use iso format with hdr on all my 4k uhd discs since it retains all the meta data and files from the the discs including the menus and the extra features from the discs. There are no videos about anyone installing noctua pc fans on any of the nas to keep the nas as quiet as possible. It's overkill since noctua fans are meant for pcs but it matters if someone wants complete silence. If I had enough money saved up, I would use sabrent's highest capacity with there maxed out speeds since I need the high capacity and storage but I settled for the samsung 860 evo sata ssd since I had it since 2019 from my 4k hdr with 10 bit msi godlike motherboard/ home theater gaming pc and my gaming pc already has 3 samsung 970 evo plus nvme ssd.
Yes, definitely make a tutorial for a NAS
Yes, tutorial please and thank you!👍
Could you please do a video on the ADM OS that Asustor uses ?
I would love to see an in depth review of the software and the apps. Info on the internet is hard to find and not in depth.
I have a Synology and am thinking of buying an Asustor Lockstor Gen 2 AS 6702T and can't find much info on the OS.
Hi there! What would you like to know?
08:21 I will damn sure be ordering one of these 10GbE NIC/dual NVME M.2 combo cards when I can find one!!! Great news!
I'm doing 2x5 2TB nvme drives on my 12600k proxmox server. With just the first three drives in I get 12GB/5.5GB per second with 3.0 drives in raidz1.
Please make the Nas setup tutorial!
You keep saying the NVME's are capable of 5000 MB/s. Well not on that NAS. Those NVME slots (given the number of PCIe lanes that the Intel Celeron N5105 CPU has) are for a start Gen 3 not Gen 4 and also only 1 lane each. The CPU only supports 8 lanes and some are being used for the 2.5Gbe ports, USB Gen 3.2 Gen2 ports and the SATA controller. So 1 Gen3 PCIE lane equates to about 1 GB/s per SSD. So you might see 1600MB/s in a RAID 0 config allowing for about 20% overhead. So really no point in putting Gen 4 M2 NVME drives in that NAS but about right for 10Gbe if there is really enough bandwidth left for 10Gbe. Pretty sure a QNAP or Synology would have just worked right out of the box but good on you for still putting the video out, even though IMO the end result fails to fulfill the brief on just about every front. If you want production level storage take a look at Iodyne. Expensive but wow - that is how an editing NAS should work.
Did they fix the Deadbolt ransomware issue with Easy Connect yet? That is the reason why I avoided this brand and went with Synology. I also upgraded the RAM to 16GB and put in a 10GB NIC on my 1821+
Hi. EZ Connect was not the vector and we have published such information onto our website. We shut off EZ Connect and DDNS as a precaution. Deadbolt is not the only ransomware and no NAS device is ever going to be fully secure from all threats. All anyone can recommend is to back up your data against all types of data loss. We have taken numerous steps to change how we tackle threats and hope to regain your trust in the future.
The route of entry was an at-the-time unknown vulnerability inside the UPS module.
id like to see a tutorial on how to set up and use a NAS drive please,,,
tutorial would be fantastic for nas setup !!!! please.
why does the link say Seagate Firecuda 525 m.2 NAS nvme but whren i press the link seagate iron wolf NVMe drives come up
Please make videos on Laptops which processor and gpu are best for laptops for using 3d softwares Unreal engine and After effects
thanks in advance
05:10 Your 5,000 MB/sec spec of the NVME drive (to be used for both read/write caches) *sounds* impressive, but, that does very little for cache effectiveness if the PCI-e lane specs on the 4x slot add-in card has each slot maxed/connected via only a single PCI-e lane, and therefore maxed at about 800-1000 MB/sec per drive... (THat being said, I have this exact NAS unit on order, can't wait to get it!)
Hello! It was very useful and interesting, keep it up :))++
I don't think each of the 4 NVME slots are full x4 speed. I think they "share" a single PCIe x4 lane between all 4 m.2 slots... can you help confirm this? easiest way would be to probably RAID 0 the nvmes and try to 'fio' from the terminal locally.
Each M.2 slot provides x1 speed of Gen3 performance. The intention is that M.2 SSDs are more useful in their random IO instead of sequential IO for a NAS device and that even 10-Gigabit Ethernet can't saturate the full x4 speeds. It's simply better to have four slots at x1 than one slot at x4.
@@ASUSTOR_YT when doing rebuild , will X1 lanes limited the rebuild peed ？
Looking for new nas ：)
Thank you
Yeeesss we want a Nas tutorial
Speed ? Seagate iron wolf 980 gb SSD ? Not mention.
U r using NAS these drives for video editing. But on Apple or windows or both. ?
This hdd bay look like for 3.5 inch hdd.
But you put 2.5 inch SSD then 3.5
And this Nas has both connector 3.5 & 2.5 inch .
Or just buy 4TB drives that allow for the same write cycles and you have approx 1250-1400gig to work with daily. It’s all relative.
I'd go for Asustor Flashstor 12 combined with 12 x 4TB FireCuda 530. That's 48TB 10 gigabit NAS only for 5193£
You could try out also Jumbo Frame, but maybe the switch is the bottleneck
From my understanding, SMB is short fo SaMBa and is a Windows-compatible protocol for network file and print sharing. I have my own SMB shares on my TrueNAS Scale server for this. What you are referring to by joining two network cables to double your speed is called Link Aggregation. Sorry if I'm missing something.
Hi there. SMB is short for Server Message Block. That is the implementation found on Windows. SAMBA is the open source reimplementation of the SMB protocol for many unix-like systems, including Linux, macOS and BSD. SMB is proprietary and SAMBA is open source. Tech Notice does not have a managed switch so he cannot use Link Aggregation. We do support Link Aggregation but we also support SMB Multichannel. SMB Multichannel is a way to combine the Ethernet ports on your NAS and attain double, triple or more depending on the amount of Ethernet ports both your NAS and client PC. Unlike Link Aggregation, it does not require special managed switches, but requires the same amount of Ethernet ports on your NAS as your client. Example, plug in two 2.5GbE ports from your NAS to your switch while your desktop also is plugged in twice with its own dual 2.5GbE ports for a total of up to 5 gigabits per second of speed. SMB Multichannel only works for SMB transfers.
Hope this helps!
@@ASUSTOR_YT Thank you for the explanation! I thought CIFS was the open-source version of Samba which was part of my confusion.
@@nicholash8021 No problems! Hope you're having a great day! Microsoft tried to rename SMB to CIFS in 1996 but the name never stuck and Microsoft eventually abandoned this idea.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Oddly enough, Linux is still hodling onto that name. I had to use cifs-utils to mount my SMB shares. LOL
@@nicholash8021 Yeah. It's not always easy to change names or addresses or modules inside an OS without breaking something. Easier to just keep it.
Humans are funny.
Can we use ssd and hdd together ? Like 2 bay ssd and rest hdd ?
Good video. The background music is annoying - what is it for? Please drop it.
Now THIS is a Creator Workflow Build Guide or whatever we need. More content about file handling please
:) Coming up!
I misread "file handling" for "file hording" haha
Being a 3d dev I'd love to get your input on what or when NAS becomes a worthwhile investment compared to a PCI expansion card?
PCIe expansion card? you mean HBA or SATA to PCIe adapters? well it's depends, if you already have multigigabit switch (atleast 2.5GBe for using all SSD storage speed potential) and also have the 2.5GBe network adapter for your PC, NAS is better solution especially if you gonna share the files to other person in the facility. But if that's not the case, you better off buying an HBA and running internally, but you have to consider does your PC have the capabilities to put several drive on the case, and also the PCIe slot situation on the motherboard (bandwidth related).
@@pingtime Yeah, that makes sense. I can't say I've invested in a solid switch or adapter I think... ^^
Thing is that most of the work I do is pulled from a "cloud" server with version ctrl such as Github.
Therefore a PCIe X16-adapter for an nvme stack is something I've wondered about. More so because I deal with large files a lot & my current ATX motherboard have an unused x16 PCIe slot(With capacity to use the lanes I believe)
I think I've seen asus call them expansion cards but I guess my question is if someone have looked at it & know that it works well & makes use of the write-speed of the nvme's that's in it?
@@VertexCarver @Slevin Kelevra 1st thing, what platform do you use? AM4 + X570? can you be more specific?
2nd, about the Asus (or gigabyte/MSi one) 4 NVMe to PCIe x16 adapter, that only worked on specific motherboard (mostly server and high-end workstation motherboard) that support PCIe bifurcation (AKA PCIe Lane splitting) to make full x16 slot to worked as x4x4x4x4 mode.
3rd, I'm afraid if you're using consumer grade platform like AMD AM4/AM5 or Intel LGA 1200/1700 platform, even if your motherboard support PCIe bifurcation, the unused x16 PCIe slot is not actually running at x16 speed electrically, this limitation happened because the processor itself only support between 20-24 PCIe lane total + 4-8 PCIe lane from chipset (usually with lower speed and higher latency).
Now if you're using single GPU running at x16 speed + 1 NVMe SSD already taking 20 (16+4) CPU PCIe lane, with the rest of M.2 slot, ethernet, and some other built-in PCIe based peripheral handled by chipset (connected to CPU by Intel DMI bus or x4 PCIe lane on AMD), so yeah, It's not worth the hassle, except you're running EPYC/Xeon W/Threadripper or other HEDT CPU (I'm typing this comment on older Xeon E5-2650v3) that have tons of PCIe lane (mine have 40 PCIe 3.0 Lane) and supported motherboard. But hey, just check your motherboard datasheet/manual to see the Block diagram and PCIe slot allocation first, maybe you just got lucky that your motherboard have very good compability for allocating PCIe bandwidth or even having dedicated PLX switch.
My best guess if you're running standard consumer grade platform, just buy used server-grade HBA like LSI 9305-24i based card, and plug in on empty "x16" PCIe slot and buy bunch of Seagate Ironwolf NAS/WD RED 2.5 inch SSD and you have awesome fast bulk storage, and if you didn't mind runnning it 24/7, you can make a samba share out of that drive. For the software, just use software JBOD from windows disk management. Don't forget to buy the HBA that already flashed with "IT mode" firmware so we bypass those pesky built in RAID management software.
Or if you didn't like buying used, you can get afforable SATA to PCIe adapter, just becareful about the specs and do some research first, my reccomendation for best compatibility is card that running ASMedia ASM1166/ASM1164 chipset (lol even ASUSTOR using this exact chip on some of their NAS) or JMicron JMB585. heck if youre have spare M.2 M key slot you can get one that using M.2 Form factor instead of full PCIe card for space saving, i'm using both those PCIe card and M.2 one on my DIY NAS right now.
It depends on your use case. A Nas is not an nvme card. Typically it is used to store your entire library of media so you can access it from anywhere and on any machine. It is usually running 24/7 or always when working. If you have a desktop is all your media stored in it, or spread around on various plug in drives which are slow. How can you edit on a laptop or on the road, or can your friend help. The other benefit of a Nas is that it can run automated backups to das drives or other storage. You can setup a Dropbox so you can upload media from the field. Finally a powerful Nas can be used to run media servers or security systems or docker apps like home automation so you don't need more computers running in the house.
@@pingtime Ah okay, I definitly need to read up some!
Half of the stuff I'm a bit unsure of the terms & how it all goes together... x]
Currently running an Asus Prime 370Z chipset with an I9-9900 KS at home. ( It's... ancient by today's standards so to speak. )
Funny thing when reading the documentation, I think the m.2 slots was listed as something like test slots for next gen storage. xD
I'll definitly look into a used server-grade HBA (LSI 9305-24i) for a newer workstation- or an appropriate server board. Been dreaming of not have to juggle around things on external drives so much...
Thanks again for the advice^^
Wonderful
interesting you have the exact same scratch on the led display that I have.... must be a manufacturing flaw
by the way the cpu gets tapped out real easy on these.. just be warned
Can you post a link to the 2.5gb switch please
I just love the Seagate nvme's and ssd's - but have the worst luck with their mechanical drives ...
I would to a NAS setup video.
Why bother with Sata interface at all. Use the Asus Flashstor 6 or 12 and use M.2Nvme ssd's for your raid.
every your word is knowledge
you should call the "7 headed wolf"
Tutorial please! I have never built one.
Lucky to comment first for my fav creator. ❤️
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Its never enough memory isn´t it. But your NAS is quite a Monster i should say. By the way great content!!!
Yes how to set it up please
5 yrs huh? . What's the warranty?
Yes please
Great
Back when the ICYDOCK 16 bay was $200 that was a better value, 16x2.5 inch SSDs in any PC case that has 2xODD bays
But now that these are all being scalped at $400-600 an actual dedicate NAS is a better value, because remember, you're going to need a ~$300 PC and a ~$150 SAS HBA to control all of those drives
I have 38TB of RAW SSD storage in my server, 128GB of ECC all for less than $3000 and these werent even used parts, but if you only want 8 drives, and for it to come in at under $1000(6 core CPU with 32GB of ECC RAM), you cant do that any more with the ICYDOCK models
Yes do a tutorial
do you have video tutorial on how to replace the OS drive and how to install another OS in the new nvme drive?
Good HEAVENS!
Hello there! Long time no see!
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Less than 6TB? Or less than 3TB of usable space if you are on a RAID? For ANY content creator this will be full afer less than a month... Not worth...
Not at all. Should just use 7200rpm drives. Read my comments to him. This setup is just silly.
Clearly the guy got it for free, but yeah.
It's for small businesses not content creation
Makes no sense. Nas will top out at 700 MBytes/sec with both rotational and SSD due to processing speed of the box (maybe 900 for raid 0). An exos 16tb drive runs at 270 MBytes/sec, so 4 will max out the box, as the data is striped across the drives. Write speed will depend on the box and raid type, but 500Mbytes/sec is a minimum. SSD drives will not improve this. The other thing that does not make sense is the sw really does not benefit from faster drives as it's usually GPU and cpu limited not I/O. Putting the fastest gen 4 nvme on your creator pc does not make davinci or premier run twice as fast as a gen 3 nvme. You may shave a second or 2 in a long render. Where are the files being pulled from, an external SSD or card. How long does it take to plug in the card and upload the media as well as download music and add on content. Creators need to invest in better GPU or cpu to save time. As for silence, use quiet drives or put the Nas in a sound proof box.
Yup, especially when producing your own music for your video and 3d stuff. That is simply insufficient.
Cache Drives are not at all useful for this use case, if he was running a load of Virtual Machines or Docker Instances then okay, but shared storage does not benefit.
Any proof ?
Correct. He did not mention he enabled jumbo frames so the network is the bottle neck, not the drives. Notice how the speed increased when he doubled the network connection. If drives were limiting then the speed would not change. Raid 5 stripes the data across 5 of the 6 drives, so read and write are 5x of a single drive. He was getting close to 180 mb on a single drive, so 5 will put him close to 900mB , and maxing the ethernet link. Not sure about asustore but Synology 8bay Nas will max 10gb connection with spinning drives. The nvme are best used for running apps on the Nas like Plex, or other transcoders as well as security apps with 4k and 8k security cameras.
use RAID 10! Raid5 is slow and just not a good idea with drivers larger than 300GB.
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I realize they are a sponsor, but...no commercial NAS vendor has better hardware specs than QNAP. I have owned Asustor 4 bay, Synology 5 bay, and a QNAP 8 bay, and currently use my home built TrueNas Scale. Synology and Asustor are very similar, with Synology's app eco-system just slightly deeper than Asus, but they are close. Yes, those are both easy to use. The TrueNas I built on a 12th Gen i5, is very, very fast, super stable, and much more resistant to hacker exploits, but it is really annoying to run plug ins, and by far the most complex to troubleshoot, and keep services updated.
But to call the puny Asustor HW the best in class, is absurd.
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@@ASUSTOR_YT OK, apologies. It was a solid review, I just took exception to the HW claims. I have to give HW power to QNAP, with Synology historically the weakest.
@@lastsonofthewest2444 I'd love to hear more! What kind of hardware or features would you like to see? We do have desktop class components in our higher end NAS devices, but for us a vast majority of the features on a NAS do not need i5 performance unless you're serving the needs of hundreds of users or running virtualisation. We chose this hardware because it was the most efficient for the use case and the money goes into creating and improving the software to make it easy and seamless. The i5 will not make the primary functionality of the NAS, the Ethernet ports, whether they are Gigabit, 2.5-Gigabit or 10-Gigabit faster than the SoC used in the video. At the same time, keeping desktop-class components cool in a smaller footprint is much harder than the SoC used inside. The SoC doesn't even need a chipset, reducing complexity and heat output. There is nothing wrong with building your own server with an i5. But for us, our claim to fame is that our device just works and that the hardware is reliable and software receives updates for many years while ensuring that our solution takes the guesswork out of data protection and backup. Even with TrueNAS, we use many of the same open source components like SAMBA et al. and thus share the same exploits. All we can do is encourage people to keep proper 3-2-1 backups and regularly update our software.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Well said, and I do understand the positioning, and bifurcation. For me personally, my first NAS was a 1st gen Asustor, a 4 bay embedded. Marvel chip? Circa 2015/2016. It performed well, I needed it only for PLEX and media streaming, my needs were simple. Today, not a lot different, although I enjoy running containers (Docker/K8s) and some firewall apps on my TrueNas build.
As a former product manager, glad you are in here asking questions. My QNAPs had first an i3, then an i5, and I realized the transcoding capabilities were much higher with Intel iGPUs.
My IDEAL consumer/prosumer NAS today would have 10 GbE, or an open PCIe or expansion slot. 32 GB of DDR5, a 12th or 13th gen i3 or i5, 6 bays, and slot in between $999-1299. I will check the current Asustor lineup, as the QNAPs have been security compromised for a while, and while their app ecosyustem is very deep, it is really messy. Synology wins on app usage, but their machines previously were weak in the 5 bay/6 bay space, without buying more of an SMB NAS, that still lacked some streaming power, and was too expensive. I will say, TrueNas has come up quite a bit from FreeNas in 2016, when I bought one of their 4 bay appliances. I found that was a nightmare for my skillset back then, and the 8 core Atom CPU also was pretty weak for 4k, multistreams.
Checked the product line, the AS6706T would be perfect for my needs, IF it had an i3 in lieu of the Celeron. Understand that might push cooling and BOM costs, but, that would be perfect!
You should synchronize your thumbnail to the content
What do you mean? :)
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It will be compatible, hell if I spent all that money on hardware I would expect it to work. Not a good advert for the manufacturers.
Hi there! These SSDs are not on our compatibility list. We encourage people to visit our compatibility list before buying hard drives or SSDs. We test SSDs and hard drives all the time and update our NAS regularly to ensure they work. We did not send the SSDs for this video and were not involved in the procurement of the SSDs. We were informed of the incompatibility and we are working hard to fix it. I too would love to have everything work flawlessly all the time, but alas, we do not live in a perfect world and thus we continue to work hard with our partners to test as much as we can.
Hope this helps!
Why not get a nas with faster port.
This video turned out to be a disaster. Good effort trying to save it though.
If everything had been checked in the pre-script, these scenarios should disappear.
If you're copying this build please note that if you only need the switch for the nas and 1 single pc you can actually just plug them straight into each other without the need of a switch :)
It requires some quick configuration but it's definitely doable!
10:00 Consider how wasteful of physical space this is simply because these NAS companies won't make 2.5" bay versions of their products. The footprint of this NAS could have been reduced by half or probably even more.
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U have a bottomless pit of cash?
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The idea of this NAS build is idiotic, it doesnt make sense
I know he got it for free, but for people to actually buy this?
You can buy Enterprise U.2 SSDs on ebay, for 1K USD you can get a whopping 12.6Tb Samsung drive [there is even larger models]
Instead of occupying so much space and having so many points of damage, you can get one such enterprise SSD and backup to HDD, or you can get TWO ssds for 2K USD and do RAID1 for backup
All inside your own PC, occupying space as thick as x4 of the 2.5 inch SATA drives in this video
Also you can build an unRAID inside small PC with 20TB HDDs and SSD for cache
if you dont need lots of spacve [my unraid is 150tb] you can buy x3 20TB HDDS [they like 380USD now], one HDD as Parity and 2 for space [40tb] and add any old SSDs as SSD cache, 2Tb SSDs are dirt cheap now, you can buy new on amaozn for like 100-120USD, install 2 2TB SSDs in RAID1 as cache that also has backup of itself and 40Tb of HDD space
BTW the modern Seagate HDDs, the large ones CMR not SMR trash, are doing 260MB/s sequential [mine even did 280MB/s after enabling native 4Kn, i was surprised by such speeds]
This video is more of a Segate/ASUS advertisement then actual project and a way to get free stuff for the OP
did you really say Seagate are the highest quality? The Datacenters at Backblaze used 230.000 hard drives from different manufacturers (we are talking enterprise grade hardware here so even more demanding), and Seagate have the HIGHEST failure rate (!)
my personal experience: i had 17 Drives in the last 10 years... 9 of them were from Seagate, from which 8 are dead by now... the others are 4 WD and 4 HGST drives, all of which are still doing well... sooooooooooo i dont know about you, but i'll never buy Seagate again.
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Total waste. You will max out a 10gb link with spinning drives in raid. In raid 5 you get 5 of the 6 drives in parallel which is more than 10gb read and write, with the nvme to handle burst data. You could put this anywhere in your house. This will give you 100tb storage instead of 5tb with the SSD. I am surprised you are not up on Nas drives as a creator as you generate a lot of data. If you want speed, put those Seagate SSD drives in the terramaster with thunderbolt 4. You should increase the jumbo frames on the server. Your hard drives are not the bottleneck as you showed by adding parallel ethernet. You still won't hit the full speed of nvme over a network, but resolve and premier don't use the full speed of these drives and the only slight benefit is initial pulling in your resources to start editing.
jumbo frames must be enabled on the switch too, i don;t think that switch he has supports it.
@@giornikitop5373 Excellent point
@@barryobrien1890 but you're right, that's a total waste, not because of the weak cpu or the few incompatibility issues, those happen, but because of the price. $900 is insulting for a nas of that class. it's just a very bad value product.
@@barryobrien1890 but i guess it's all about profit margins, right?
Too much pllastic, use NVME
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Please stop pulling over-exaggerated cringe shock face in your thumbnails. Pretty sure your target market is wise to it.