That’s an interesting match and I’d like to see William’s awesome top game v Levi’s awesome guard. But for storyline I’d go Andrew v Levi first seeing as they never met at CJI. William v Kade makes sense as Kade beat Andrew. Or could do an Andrew v Kade rematch with Tye v William also on the show. - Ross
Re: kani basami - I'm one of those "it's not dangerous if you do it right" guys. It's a *scissor* takedown - you're supposed to take out your opponent's near leg, therefore you shouldn't be able to blow out that knee. It's an amazing technique, especially if you attack leg locks. It should be legal and if you do it wrong/maliciously/negligently you get punished, the same way slams can be legal but you're not allowed to spike someone on their head. Cheers
If guys are given the chance to do it right but the consequences are too severe to the opponent if they do it wrong, I think it should be banned. Blame the guys who do it wrong for ruining it for everyone else… - Ross
How about this for a ruleset: Sub only, no time limit, but, as soon as there's no action for say, a minute (ie both too tired to finish) it's a draw. In a tournament it's a double elimination, which might seem crazy, but if you've fought to the point of exhaustion you're next match is likely to be a wash anyways. For the finals, maybe they get a warning or two, and if they're both too tired, it's a draw. Incentivize getting the sub, and being in shape. Or maybe sub only, and if no sub whoever had more top control. If you're sticking with a points system, how about some points for throws/takedowns, a la Judo/wrestling. In a street fight a throw can be devastating. If you want to go for the entertainment factor, let the crowd choose the winner, the ole applause-o-meter. They can also chant one more round for finals or particularly exciting matches. I don't know, there doesn't seem to be a perfect system, or even a great one. They are all either too subjective or too contrived or too open to sandbagging.
It is tough to get a good system. The first idea makes me think of Antonio Inoki seeing an awful pro wrestling match in Japan, walking out and ordering it to be stopped. Maybe we need a Gordon Ramsay-esque promoter to come out and call off any boring match, then berate both competitors for their inactivity. - Ross
I reckon rather than the specific rules CJI had a better mat space and a better roster of guys to put on exciting matches. Although as we said on the pod the one scoring thing that we both disagree with is delaying the awarding of points. - Ross
William Tackett vs Levi
That’s an interesting match and I’d like to see William’s awesome top game v Levi’s awesome guard.
But for storyline I’d go Andrew v Levi first seeing as they never met at CJI. William v Kade makes sense as Kade beat Andrew. Or could do an Andrew v Kade rematch with Tye v William also on the show.
- Ross
BJJ ruleset is very difficult to get right
Re: kani basami - I'm one of those "it's not dangerous if you do it right" guys. It's a *scissor* takedown - you're supposed to take out your opponent's near leg, therefore you shouldn't be able to blow out that knee. It's an amazing technique, especially if you attack leg locks. It should be legal and if you do it wrong/maliciously/negligently you get punished, the same way slams can be legal but you're not allowed to spike someone on their head.
Cheers
If guys are given the chance to do it right but the consequences are too severe to the opponent if they do it wrong, I think it should be banned. Blame the guys who do it wrong for ruining it for everyone else…
- Ross
How about this for a ruleset: Sub only, no time limit, but, as soon as there's no action for say, a minute (ie both too tired to finish) it's a draw. In a tournament it's a double elimination, which might seem crazy, but if you've fought to the point of exhaustion you're next match is likely to be a wash anyways. For the finals, maybe they get a warning or two, and if they're both too tired, it's a draw. Incentivize getting the sub, and being in shape.
Or maybe sub only, and if no sub whoever had more top control.
If you're sticking with a points system, how about some points for throws/takedowns, a la Judo/wrestling. In a street fight a throw can be devastating.
If you want to go for the entertainment factor, let the crowd choose the winner, the ole applause-o-meter. They can also chant one more round for finals or particularly exciting matches.
I don't know, there doesn't seem to be a perfect system, or even a great one. They are all either too subjective or too contrived or too open to sandbagging.
It is tough to get a good system. The first idea makes me think of Antonio Inoki seeing an awful pro wrestling match in Japan, walking out and ordering it to be stopped.
Maybe we need a Gordon Ramsay-esque promoter to come out and call off any boring match, then berate both competitors for their inactivity.
- Ross
Cji rules really looked good compared to fpi
I reckon rather than the specific rules CJI had a better mat space and a better roster of guys to put on exciting matches.
Although as we said on the pod the one scoring thing that we both disagree with is delaying the awarding of points.
- Ross