If you’ve ever played world of warships. This clip accurately depicts what it’s like to be the only player on your team that gets focus fired by a carrier. Absolute carnage.
The best eyewitness account that I’ve read about the death of Yamato was in ‘Destroyer Captain’ where a nearby DD witnessed the destruction. He said that the planes looked like a swarm of flies buzzing around the ship
Cpt. Hara was both the gem and the living memory of the Imperial Navy - people like him made such a long and bloody fight against state 10x more powerful at all possible.
@@martinonroll A ship that wasn’t designed to repel a large air attack plus it was on its own a capital ship will always have screening vessels around it
Yamato's AA guns were still not being directed via radar, contrary to those on American ships. Instead the Japanese had a shouting guy pointing with a stick. Really shows the level of technological difference at this point in the war. Japan started off with very modern and often superior equipment, but just couldn't keep up once the US rolled up its sleeves.
Just as an aside, the Yamato wasn't commissioned with radar. It was installed during refit in 1944, a full 3 years after Pearl Harbor and only a year before its sinking.
A million visitors in less than a year... In Europe or the US they would milk it to the last cent. It seems that dismantling it went with the spirit of the Ten Go - to die being still strong. They wanted to avoid making it "a common attraction".
@@Edi_J I don't think any of that is accurate. Movie sets aren't built to last. If that was the case and we'd just "milk it dry," then there would be hundreds more movie sets just sitting around. Like the Titanic replica... which was disassembled. Tour any number of filming locations around California even and you'd see that disassembly is standard practice.
*When Yamato was sunk by U.S. forces, during the last Japanese naval action of WWII, she took 2,747 men with her-all but 269 of her crew. Escorting Japanese ships lost an additional 1,167 men; making 3914 in total. Only 10 American aircraft went down in the battle, with the loss of just 12 American men. In all, Yamato took 12 bombs and seven torpedo hits within two hours of battle. An astounding series of explosions onboard Yamato produced the mushroom cloud seen shortly before she sank. Yamato settled on the seafloor 1,200 feet down and about 50 miles southwest of Kyushu, Japan.*
An advantage of USN torpedoes post 1943 was the introduction of the British explosive Torpex. More than 1/2 again the explosive power of TNT. That and the damage was aimed at one side of the ship to capsize her.
@@ethanperks372 An infinitely greater explosive power than early war US torpedoes which had embarrassing habits of running too deep , their magnetic pistols not triggering, or on the rare occasions they got a contact hit, bouncing off with no more than a "boink"! You are correct about the shooting at one side - they learned that from sinking Yamato's sister, Musashi, at Leyte Gulf.
Last IJN naval action was actually the Battle of Malacca Strait in May 1945 where the IJN Heavy Cruiser Haguro was attacked and sunk by a squadron of British DDs in the last Surface action of WW2 and the last IJ naval operation of WW2.
This was to be Yamato's last voyage in any event, on what was in no uncertain terms a suicide mission. The last-ditch naval defense of the Japanese home islands, Operation Ten-Go, called for Yamato and all other large ships still operational, to make for Okinawa with all speed, where the Allied offensive had commenced a week prior, and then beach themselves to serve as a stationary shore batteries. In that situation they would all have been sitting ducks, and wouldn't have survived long.
As it was, she took around 3000 with her (around 280 survived), while the US lost 12 airmen. If she was already beached, many of those sailors might have survived (and there would have been far less on board). Although Seppuku may have still taken its toll :(
@@geoffhart Or not. Japanese losses on Okinawa were ghastly. Between regulars and Okinawan conscripts they lost around 100,000, with maybe around 8,000 surviving the battle. It was certainly no safer there.
The radar officer from the Yamato, survived the war and wrote a book. He says the 'suicide mission', and 'only enough fuel for a one-way trip', as well as the 'beaching themselves' things are all myths. The Admiral and Captain explained the plan to their officers. In some detail. Then the ship's spotter plane was sent back to the homeland with the ship's log. Whatever happened, nobody on board would be blamed for the result. They intended to fight their way to the seas near Okinawa ( in a task force of 11 ships, remember ), aid any ships or forces there as they could, then draw enemy ships away by sailing West, before heading North after nightfall, to split pursuers. They had fuel to get home, where the crew would be landed, and the Yamato camouflaged in a bay. The surviving officer didn't think it would happen, but the suicidal nonsense had been dropped after the failure to hold Iwo Jima. Instead, they would dig in and make the US pay for every step forward. Like happened in Okinawa.
@stevetheduck1425 While it's true that they carried more fuel than needed for a one-way trip, every history I have ever read on the subject disagrees with this about the mission. It's possible the exact orders were not shared outside command staff. I'm not sure why you emphasize the size of the task force. With no air cover, even arriving at Okinawa was always going to be chancy at best.
The unfortunate part for the Japanese was that despite Yamato and Musashi's incredibly large AA batteries, the 25mm, which is the one seen most commonly on Yamato, was utterly useless. They had an effective range of merely a kilometer, and even then it was expected to take 1500 rounds to successfully shoot down an aircraft. Compounding this was the fact the traverse for the guns and the mount were too slow, the sights were horrible for tracking aircraft, the guns were manually aimed, the triple mounts as seen became increasingly more inaccurate as fire was sustained, and also as seen, the magazines for the gun had very little ammo, resulting in constantly reloading and slowing down volume of fire. The Type 96 25mm is likely the second-worst AA gun of WWII, only beaten out by the 37mm Bolt-action (yes, bolt action) AA gun the Nazis had. The very same AA guns mounted on Bismarck that famously didn't score a single kill.
Wasn't Bismarck attacked by Wood and Canvas planes from the inter war period/ww1? If I remember correctly planes were hit but the bullets just went through
@@Pottan23 That's also true, as the fuses were calibrated to be set off by modern aluminum frame aircraft, but in the end volume of fire is still important. If the 37s were the automatic variant introduced in 42 or replaced with 20mm Flakvierlings, it's likely the Swordfish attack would not have been as successful and aircraft would've been shot down. Enough shells will eventually bring down any aircraft. In the end the problem was still a lack of fire rate.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 I believe the tirpitz had more success against the swordfish torpedo bombers during her sortie when she was spotted by the HMS Seawolf. Even then, she didn't shoot down more than 3-4 i believe. But she had no issues with speed and able to evade their torpedoes.
Wasn't it Us Admiral Lee that bent the regs to get as many 40MM and 20MM guns mounted on US ships in 43/44??? When you look at some of the ships from 44/45, it's like they stuck an AA gun wherever there was space.
Practical effects are always great to see being used in film and tv. I get some stuff has to be done with CGI these days but practical effects still work and they are slowly making a more of a return to be used more now like in the past
it could, if it could fly like the space battleship with the same name. but ten+ of anything larger than PT boats would never end well for a battleship
This Ship like most Japanese Ships were 1 Step above Miserable, This Ship had constant Engine Malfunctions, The Ship was so poorly built that many of the welds let go, and cracked, The Iron and Steel used to build this ship were of such poor quality, the metal fractured , fatigued , and cracked all over the ship, This was not a Mighty Ship to be feared, it was a POS Japanese built Death Trap, The Main Guns we see Blazing Away here, didn't have proper Sights, Rangefinder's or even proper Ammunition, The ship relied on spotters, and Gun Captains to feed range and firing instructions to the gunners with Flags, or Signal Paddles, People dont understand how far behind The Japanese were with the rest of the World, They were good at Night Fighting, and had some success, night attacks on US Ships, Destroying Several US Destroyer's and Cruiser's. Their Suicide Planes did the most damage. Early in the War The Dutch inflicted serious damage on Japanese Shipping, but The Dutch had too few Ships, so they relied on their Submarines' which did even more Damage to Japan's Navy, The Dutch didn't just try to disable or simply sink a Japanese Ship they wouldn't stop Firing until they Blew The Japanese Ships to pieces, and then Machine Gun survivor's in the water, just like the Japanese did to Dutch Sailor's, The Dutch also Rammed several Japanese Ships, and used small Patrol Boats to Harass and constantly shoot at Any Japanese Ships.
@@brooksbrown580 They were fuel guzzlers for sure, but Yamato did sink an aircraft carrier and damage another. They were escort carriers, but still the range her guns hit are fairly impressive and the hits/near misses on the destroyers at Samar was good shooting. Issue was wrong shell type. USS Johnson's heroic run would have been cut short if the 18 inch shell that hit her was high explosive rather than AP.
ironically, the yamato was supposed to provoke america into building bigger battleships, in hopes that those ships wouldnt fit through the panama canal. (most of americas shipyards are on the east coast) unfortunatly for the japanese, america went for aerial power instead of gunpower.
One of the things that is often overlooked, the Admiral who commanded the Yamato during Operation Ten-Go ordered all but the most essential personnel off the ship, even some of the less important engineering divisions where stripped of personnel. They where all aware it was a foolhardy suicide mission, and chose to save as many men from a delusional high command as they could.
They needed the space for all the extra men loading and manning the large number of additional AA guns added for this last mission. To keep one 25mm AA gun fed with ammo, there up to eight loaders. The triple mounts had as many as a dozen.
There was nothing "delusional" about the IJN General Staff. When the order to sail was issued EVERYONE involved was fully aware it was a one-way trip. However, they all saw defending Japan, (and the Emperor), to the last man, last ship, last plane, as their sacred duty.
@looneyburgmusic there is, and they were, even in their clouded mindset, what would be the point in sending men who were of no use in a ship battle along with the ship. With that mentality that you said they had, which I am not disputing they had, do you not think one of the Admirals or administrators of the IJN general staff have argued to keep those technicians, who might I remind where solely dedicated to the regular maintenance, not combat maintenance, of the Yamato to building defenses, or teaching students? Even prior to the defense of Iwo Jima, the Japanese Homeguard of both the army and navy were complaining of the lack of teachers that they were using fighter pilots to teach student how to wield a bamboo spear. Instead, the general staff ordered ALL crew, including civilian maintenance workers from the docks, to head to battle. Even if we put away the first arguement that they would serve better on land, you can also make the point having a civilian crew on your military vessel about to engage the enemy decreases the ship's combat effectiveness. These were not trained sailors, about the most they would amount to is powder monkeys, but you already have dedicated military crew to run ammo. Again, nothing about it, even in the sense of defending the courts to the last man, woman, and child, hence why I state they were 100% delusional sith the effect those people would have.
The old samurai who hid in bunkers sacrificed the men just to say they helped defend Okinawa. They couldn't let their true enemies, the Army cause them to lose face in front of the Emperor.
I you ever get a chance to watch the entire movie, I suggest you do. It is easy to forget in 2023 that this war was pretty much fought by children...anywhere from 16 to 23. Sure, officers were older but the people you see portrayed fit in that age group. Every person on that ship was told they would never see home again and they should prepare to die. The movie also went into how deeply the Japanese worshiped the Emperor and how every Military Officer assigned to Yamato was against this Suicide mission...until they heard the Emperor asked for the navy's help.
@@dimasgirl2749 😂🤣 Um sweets, 16 is quite literally the definition of a TEEN-ager...a child! At that age you can't smoke, drink or vote in the vast majority of Western countries. But thank you for playing. 😉
Sadly so true...so many young men gave thier lives and fought to the end in WW2 and we owe them so, so much. Even those who fought on the other side, one can only hope they are resting in peace. It looks like we seem to learn nothing from history and I wonder whether todays generation even understand what a terrible thing those men and women went through for the freedoms we now enjoy, freedoms that now seem to slipping away and not even noticed.
The special attack members of the Zero Fighter were also young boys. Try reading their many suicide notes. It contains heartbreaking farewell words to family members who will never be able to see each other again, as well as feelings of regret over one's own death. They didn't want to give up their future or time with their loved ones. As a Japanese person, I feel ashamed of the national and military leaders of the time.
I knew the Yamato was improperly set up for anti-aircraft defense but I was amazed at the number of US aircraft lost to sink her (just 10). In the case of the mighty Yamato, all those crewmen crammed onto that battleship was just 3,000 men neatly packaged for destruction.
@@panzerabwerkanone Citation needed. I've found unconfirmed reports of Yamato's explosion destroying "several" US planes observing it as it sank, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing even implying that more than 10 aircraft were lost to the explosion.
One smart Japanese officer suggested to scrap the Yamato and Musashi and use them to make aircraft for kamikazes....that would have been far more useful. But of course he was denied and that was considered heresy.
The American pilots had a lot of experience at that time. Also, I think the strike package was around 300 planes. It's hard to pick out a single target so the damage tends to spread around.
When ships die in combat, it’s never pretty. The sailors in the USN and IJN were brave beyond words and many died horribly during the war in the Pacific. Sad, and a terrible waste.
Good men and women all fight and die on the battlefield. Regardless of the odds, they fought bravely and doing their duty. I do have to agree though, it’s a terrible waste of life
Ya. It's gruesome, which I appreciate this movie for doing a decent job of showing. But I don't appreciate the over-dramatization and banter among the Japanese 'actors'. Yes, they had respectable HONOR and COURAGE and VALOR, but the dramatization was just too over-the-top. I know Hollywood tries to be 'fair' and 'inclusive' to all races/genders/classes, but this was a bit much.
@@djbenje4019 How can you classify it as "too over the top" when you yourself have never experienced the horrors of war? Who are critics to know how to react in war?
Lt (jg)Lupo of Louisiana threw coke bottles and other loose items in his cockpit at the Yamato when he ran out of ordnance. His plane is at the National WW2 Museum in New Orleans. It’s name is the Bayou Bomber.
A Japanese survivor said he had to go up on deck for something and there was an endless stream of machine gun bullets hitting all over the ship and bodies were been tossed around like rag dolls.
For a ship its size, weight, and displacement, it would be hard to imagine for a ship that big executing tight turns to dodge torpedoes. But do recall that the Yamato was a state of the art ship of the line, with 12 boilers powering quadruple steam turbines, with 147,948 HP that drove 6 20-ft. wide propellers, and it had achieved a speed of 27 knots, which is about 50kmh! Today's US Navy carriers can achieve a top speed of 32 knots, or 59 kmh! Talk about "Super-sizing!" Aerial US Navy photos of the battles of Yamato and even Musashi making these tight turns as they tried to evade the torpedoes, but it;s a numbers game when it comes to battle: too many attacking planes, one enemy battleship, with no air cover? The results are too simple.
There was one deck gunner on the Bismarck as well, that was still firing ss it went under. This was reported by British pilots. The ship was sideways and tilted skywards. That is some legendary bulldog fighting!!!
There was one gunner in Armidale and Yarra who fought to the last and died with their ships to save their mates. All of us were members of our Navies who did our duty to the last. And that is why we have more in common than the bastards who sent us in harm's way.
You could compare to the direction given in Pursuit of the Graf Spee (1956) (aka The Battle of the River Platte) from the Rank co. where they go very much in the opposite direction.
A pretty good stab at what it might have been like onboard. Some inaccuracies: it didn't quietly slip beneath the waves. It actually flipped over and exploded because of a magazine fire. The attacking aircraft are shown turning corners like a "car" which they don't do. They have something called a coordinated turn that still doesn't look like a car even if the pilot cheats the turn. The attacking aircraft are sometimes shown as P47s which would not have happened. When P47s launched from carriers, they were merely being delivered to islands, not engaging in combat.
Frankly, YAMATO was more trouble than she was worth. She was wanting in maneuverability and was a major fuel hog. And in the resource-poor area known as the Western Pacific, that's a serious downside. She spent most of her time in port and her only real accomplishment was wounding the JOHNSTON before being chased off by HEERMANN's torpedoes.
This may be the first movie that shows the planes are actively spraying guns to the AA crew. Maybe because during the sinking of Yamato, they knew Japan no longer has air power, ergo no need to save bullets for air battle.
At this point of war, Japan was cut off from fuel & supplies. The best of Japanese naval fleet were finished during the Guadalcanal & Mariana Islands campaign
The US has always enjoyed a near infinte budget for the expenditure of ammunition. The Germans described it as the yanks can summon more firepower for a diversion than we can for an attack. Japanese tanks had also become infamous for being torn apart by 50cal machine guns. It appears the protective casements for the ship AA guns were just as permeable.
Don’t be a hater. They just retaliated against unfair demands and hateful restrictions put on their own countries. Japan especially. All other countries as well, & even the Germans from ww1 war indemnities ! WHO TF we’re the US & UK to put ridiculous restrictions on things like the kind of ships countries can have & the size of their guns, etc. What a joke !
Nah, those sailors were minding their own business when the Nazis declared war on them. This is more how the Bismarck felt. Those people had it coming (they were Nazis or at least fought for Nazis).
The Japanese recognized that fact. A third superbattleship like Yamato was being built, and was converted to an aircraft carrier, the Shinano. That didn't help at all, though, Shinano was sunk by an American submarine before it ever got into combat.
Something the Japanese of ww2 didn’t learn from their own success until it was too late. By the time they realized building massive battleships was stupid in an air-power war it was too late. They even tried converting a half built sister ship of the Yamato into, I believe and could be wrong, the largest carrier at that time. We sunk that one also.
In a way, the attack on Pearl Harbour was a strategic disaster for Japan. Being deprived of battleships, the US turned to its aircraft carriers as its principal striking arm, creating fleets with an aircraft carrier at their centre. But the Japanese never learned that lesson until too late. Even though they had the best carrier divisions of the early war, by far, aircraft carriers were always supporting units for the big guns ... their battleships. By the time they realised that the battleship's day was done, it was too late for them.@@tarn1135
The shock from being hit by a .50 caliber bullet would likely kill you, even if it didn't take off an arm or leg, or just blow you in half or your head clean off your shoulders.
At 0:02 there's an error: The Avengers were torpedo bombers, not dive bombers. The TBFs attacked first to cripple the ship so that the dive bombers (Curtiss Helldiver) had a chance to hit the crucial parts (not the turrets nor the citadel, they were armored too heavily).
Aircraft at 0:55 looks more like a P-47D "Razorback" than anything that was actually there. Aircraft maneuvers are impossibly tight & often "non-ballistic" with sharp, flat turns. Weird animation.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935right? If they’re dive bombers then they should have said Dauntless but the opening of the bomb bay has me thinking that it is a TBF Avenger with a 1000lb in her belly
This is why every ship works best in a group. Even in World of Warships playing the Tier X Yamato, i will never venture forward without my Cruisers and Destroyers.
With ever i play as battleship, i never full speed ahead, camp on 1 spot then snipe what ever enemy ship i spot/my team spot, or just ambush the unlucky enemy ship that appear from corner of my camp spot
War never changes. There's only three rules in War. Rule one. Old men start war's Rule two. Young men die in war. Rule three. Old men can't change rule number two. Be vary careful on which Old men we choose for leadership.
Conversely, Old men discovered penicillin, invented radar, the mobile phone, Touch screens, the computer, the jet engine, While young men were playing with toys.
Grumman TBF Avengers are torpedo bombers. TBs approach low and slow, while dive bombers come down at ~65° and as fast as possible. No way to mistake them. Also, dive bombers would almost certainly go in first to soften up the AAA. I wonder who made the mistake, the Japs, or some foreign Anglophone?
Yamamoto said it right at the beginning of the war, " I fear all we have done is awken a sleeping giant." Even the mightiest battleship ever been built doesn't have a chance to stand in its way.
This is a very moving film, even if it's a little over-the-top in some ways. It drives home the point that all those impersonal casualty totals you see about any battle weren't just numbers, but flesh and bone people having things like this done to them. I've never seen a dubbed version, so it's always interesting to hear the name of the ship properly pronounced YA-ma-to instead of ya-MA-to as always heard in English language documentaries about the ship.
Yamato represented a traditionalist approach to Naval combat. Depending on bigger guns instead of taking advantage of cutting edge technology. Don't get me wrong Yamato was an impressive ship no argument there. But as war of Archemides indicated despite how impressive it still had a fatal flaw and if it survived TENGO it would have eventually sunk before reaching Okinawa. It's just a question of submarine, warship or aircraft.
As an American, I respect all warriors who fought for their country no matter which one. I hope and pray that one day we may all get along as gods children and there will be no more war!
The planet is not getting bigger, its resources are decreasing. The collapse of the USSR destroyed competition, so there is no talk of colonizing other planets. This means that "the most democratic and free country in the world" will continue to develop war and see coups d'etat, color revolutions and colonialist robberies of countries all over the planet. The existence of gods and life after death contradicts Science.
Do you mean it? Do you really mean "as gods children"? Or do you mean, "GOD's children"? How can there be no more war? Humankind is Fallen, they are ruled by the Original Sin, of Adam and Eve, which corrupts the whole planet. Look at your own history. Founded 1776, 247 years ago, with just 16 years of peace in that time, you have been AT WAR for 93% of your existence. Your so-called "land of the free" is built on the skeletons of between 60 and 100 million of the indigenous peoples. You used atomic weapons on two, mainly, civilian targets, rather than the navy or army. You allow school massacres to happen every month, and do NOTHING to stop the slaughter. You allow your country to have the most murders, per capita, than any other country in the world. You allow your country to have the most rapes, per capita, than any other country in the world. You allow your country to have the most drug deaths, per capita, than any other country in the world. I don't think your dream can be achieved, until you convert to the One, True, Christian Faith. And you won't do that, because Satan has taught you to hate us.
No CAP you are in serious trouble and it doomed this massive ship. Not a bad video at all well done. The Hellcats ate up the deck crews. What courage those pilots had..
@@HanaNoxxiT Not just any Hate and for Pearl Harbor Likely everything they have heard about how Japan treated their people and other people likely fuel it even more
The dive bombers were Helldivers and they were attacking from to high an angle for the 25mm guns to attack The Torpedo bombers were releasing their Torpedos at the max range of the 25mm guns The 25mm was a horrible weapon
@@craigwheller absolutely not, Japanese doctrine tended to hinge on the quality of their weapons, particularly at the start, because they were well aware of the United States' incredible industrial capability, they wanted to make swift, large strikes with powerful weapons, like the excellent type 93 torpedo, however once the United States began to ramp up both production and innovation they quickly began to outmatch the Japanese in almost all ways
@@steviejohnson378 The 20mm and 40mm weapons the allies used were probably better, it's not just calibre that determines efficacy. Also keep in mind that the Allies developed VT fuzes, proximity shells for their AA.
It was reported that when Yamato blew up you could see the explosion from the Japanese islands. It was definitely a suicide mission. It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow fond of it Robert E. Lee
But Lee loved it. He ruined the Army of Northern Virginia in only 13 months. After Gettysburg, the elite soldiers were gone. They were on the defense almost continually. The exception being Bristoe Station, which didn't turn out well.
It was also reported that the explosion took out more fighter than were shot down by AA fire. 4 fighters were apparently taken out by he explosion, while only 3 were actually shot down. Sad, but true.
Yeah, the minor technical difficulty in depiction is that 50 cals and 20mm cannon doesnt just "make you bloody" here. They're likely seeing body parts, blown off limbs, and severed torso everywhere.
..for sure those were useful for clearing the deck of crew manning the guns, an important thing for sure! But I'd like to know the US Aircraft attack plan, which was obviously carefully thought out ahead of time and implemented to a T! There's no way aircraft could have sunk a ship as massive as the Yamato without knowing exactly what they were doing, where to put the bombs, when to strafe the deck to clear the AA fire so the Helldivers and Dauntless could come in and do their jobs. The Navy fliers orchestrated that attack like a symphony.
@@robertmaybeth3434 the did have reports on how they planned it. Because the Yamato group lacked any fighter cover, the entire strike group just circled outside the AA range and talked over the radio to discuss their plan. And it all boils down to this. 1. Every non-torpedoe plane goes in first, bomb anything they can bomb and strafe anything they can strafe. 2. Once the AAs are sufficiently silenced (aka most of them are dead), all the torpedoes bombers go in and hit one side of the ship to try to have it roll over (by flooding one side of the ship).
@@SPXJUICE75 yea dude the Kamikaze attacks were mind blowing.. I can't understand how some1 would willingly crash their plane into a target knowing they'd lose their life.. smh. I'm sure the Americans were horrified by it.
My father was a pow to the Japanese in the Philippines, he reupped as a Philippine scout for his knowledge of 4 islands he had to march or swim across !
Eerily similar to the Titanic. Both record-breaking huge ships. Both split in half. Both ending with tragic fates and destroyed early. Both having most of their people dead. Both heavily noted in history.
It surprised me how the Japanese people were known for having the Military army and weapons in the war, even what this ships was a surprise for American when it was released. But even with that enormous ship, USA took it down… It’s well said what every single thing has an “Achilles heel” even an enormous ship like the Yamato. Edit: A very good movie in my opinion, because it shows how the Yamato did it’s labor in war, and what happened to the survivors... may now have a good rest. Everyone who served at war.
It's about the military doctrine of the IJN, completely different from the US Navy. They lost the war the moment they failed at Midway.(and the poor damage to pearl harbor on the start) By the time they have lost most of the carriers, Japan had little resources left to supply everything.. Yamato and Musashi (same type of BB) failed to stop the landing forces in the Philippines.. because of how difficult it turned to be to sink the Musashi with aircrafts, they shifted the torpedo bomber runs to hit both sides of the ship. Musashi was hit by an enormous quantity of torps, but most if not all in the same side, and by counterflooding the other side.. they saved the ship from sinking but had to fall back away from the task force.. and it exploded hours later if I'm not wrong. But the Americans expected to sink it on spot, not to hear that it later got blown up by something wrong inside. With the Yamato they knew where to hit him, because of what they have learned from the Musashi, Yamato crew wasn't able to do counterflooding, when it listed to one side, they couldn't stop it. And about the operation, all of the crew knew it was a last stand to achieve an honorable death through fighting. Probably they expected to receive only aircrafts.. but I'm sure that by their own doctrine and military culture, the result of not being engaged by any surface ships meant that their enemies used a disgraceful strategy, by not meeting the last seaworthy battleship of the empire of Japan in sea to engage in a naval battle of battleships. Which is what the imperial navy focused on since the battle of Tsushima, to build and use strategies to achieve victory by using the biggest guns of the fleet. And not by protecting correctly and using the carriers to harass the enemy with superior air power. That's my view about the philosophy and culture behind what led them to those kinds of encounters. And the fall of the Yamato equals the fall of the samurai by new Europeans type of gunfire weapons such as the Gatling cannon.
@@lightravenn If that were truly the Japanese war philosophy, then how do you explain Pearl Harbor? They used air power to attack battleships that weren't even moving. And their own battleships never fired a shot.
@@jamesfenter4194 Air Raids were a thing, the british lost their own big ships thanks to japanese air attacks. Im talking about the concept of how to deal with war on the long run. If you check the japanese had carriers, and air superiority at the start. But what im talking about is the military doctrine that the superior officers (the one in command of operations) had in their heads since naval school. Isoroku Yamamoto knew a lot about the US capabilities because he was stationed in the US long enough to learn their own capabilities, a common task for any military officer doing diplomatic duties. He knew that for Nippon to be able to reach a positive outcome, it was not enough with taking the resources from the hands of the Europeans. It is clear that for him the US military should not be taken lightly like with the european expedition forces. Im sure he was not happy about the debrief of the pearl harbor operation. The primary targets were the CVs, BBs, airfields and any oil depot/dry dock. All of them equally important, at least for Yamamoto.. but he wasnt leading the carriers. The third wave of bombers never left the carriers, probably the high command of the carriers feared the counter attack from the missing US carriers, and other unknowns of the fog of war like subs and other stuff. And by not securing those targets im sure Yamamoto knew their odds were not as good as they needed, and probably just went with it reluctantly as a senior officer who knows he cant control everything. The attack on pearl, as with the attack of many other city ports, was absolutely ok for them because it was meant to hit the capabilities of the enemy. The surface battles were not ok for them because the heavy use of aircraft meant that they couldnt fight 1v1 with surface targets. Of course that when they did fight those few surface battles they failed to achieve victory, but at least by how they been raised from the navy school, the dying fighting such battles was an honor. Thats why examples like the destroyer escort who faced the battleships with lesser inch guns and fought until the end was something really honorable to watch in an enemy. There was a lot of hatred due to skin color, just to improve the rate of new recruits and will to fight. Which led to many cases of treating the opponent like an animal. But on this case, where the big surface task force managed to get in range of some "escort carriers", watching the destroyers making runs with absolute courage was something not even a sailor could ignore, because that felt like something an honorable human would do. Facing the enemy without fear "embracing death" if it shall come was something respected back then.
The Yamato did fuck all during the entire war. Sailors jokingly called it Hotel Yamato, because being stationed on it meant you would never see combat. This was its only combat mission ever where it was sent on a suicide mission. This is the first time its 16 inch guns were fired and those beehive shells were useless against aircraft. Given the amount of resources spent on build it, it would be considered an absolute failure. Largest battleship ever and its only kill count was a dozen american planes, half of which probably went down from mechanical failure.
As far as I know the ship did not have enough fuel to get back with. Its mission was to hold up the Americans until sunk and for the dailors to fight on land. It was the last throw of the dice. The game was up Japan was putting of the inevitable. The Japanese no longer had the resources to take on the Americans or replace their losses.
To me the most impressive replica of the Yamato is that one in her Museum at Kure. Scale 1:10, length 26.3 ms, but is her weight 6300 tons? You know, 63.000 tons : 10, or even 6467.8 tons. Actually she should have weighed 7280.9 tons. Accuracy pressed to the limit! But even without it simply masterpiece of ship modelling! 😊♍
@@maemorri I have only seen clips of midway. Too much Hollywood, perspective from dive bombers, counting down. Maybe i should see the whole film. My grandfather, william srnensky, served in the Pacific, WWII, spent 12 hours in the Pacific after his shop was destroyed, waiting to be rescued or waiting to die. While from the japanese side, i guess that's why this clip resonates with me, very battleship-centric.
@@mikedarrah6945 Midway was okay, but like most movies, it takes several long minutes to show you what happened in a few seconds. The ONLY 2 naval warfare movies I can remember seeing in ages that didn't fall into the Hollywood romance trap & spend too much time there were "Das Boot" & "Master & Commander"...& the latter is set in 1805, but still the best of the best by my lights. It's hardly all action; they had to sail halfway 'round the world & the movie addresses that. Sorry. It's realistic...except for the odd prop wash...
It doesn't matter which nation or ideology or faith, both sides suffer equally in war. It has been said that war is the failure of diplomacy or of our leaders, who have learned nothing over the span of human civilization. Every conflict becomes more efficient in murdering our kind, and yet even knowing the horrors of war, the leaders of nations still think they have mastered it. They have only mastered the art of suffering. If only our leaders were at the front ,rifle in hand fighting for their own wars perhaps then they would learn the lesson that is plain for all to see. War is hell, and if you start one, Hell is were you deserve to go.
And yet it our duty to fight and preserve such peace and balance in the world to promote progress. World war 2 was fought to preserve lasting peace many that volunteered fought to free the oppressed and those that were invaded. The Yamato Battleship represented Imperial Japan's ambition it took so long to build yet it took so fast to sink with all their atrocities and crimes it was put to an end by the Americans and yet it was then given a new, Modern Japan became one of the beacons of progress during the post war era. Wars are cruel and violent but just as the storms and calamities struck life is always reborn such is the cycle of life.
@@LEGIONCABAL The greatest insult was compassion we showed them there ways were obsolete, vile, and barbaric. Hence why no matter how hard they compare they will never surpass us the West in our ability to do such cruelty and mercy. Its even an insult cause in their culture japan is called the land of the rising sun and there god is called amaterasu the sun god quite fitting. History has a good sense of humor.
Yeah this wasn’t a both sides war. It was a blatant war of aggression, so what we say or we will kill you. What are you supposed to say diplomatically about that? The soldiers serving the empire of Japan were willingly helping the mass murder of 30 million people. The only good Japanese soldiers were the ones that went awol the first chance they had. The rest are complicit beneficiaries of that mass murder. They may even have buyers remorse, but they would have felt differently if they had won.
Aristotle makes the distinction between cowardice, bravery, and foolhardiness. He put bravery in the middle of the other two terms, describing it as a golden mean. The Japanese were not brave; nor were they cowards. They also fully knew what others would do in reacting to Japanese aggression.
Japan knew that it couldn't win a long war with America because of there industrial capability, so they built impressive ships like Yamato, special cruisers like the Atago-class, Tone-class etc. To make up for the lack of ships they can build at a time. Even the ships architecture is impressive and beautiful, but a good looking ship can only take you so far. Especially if the age of warfare has shifted. As Beautiful as Yamato is and impressive, she was hopeless against an enemie she couldn't fight back.
A very worthwhile representation. At the risk of sounding controversial, i do fear however thst they show more american planes being shot down than were in reality. But it is a movie.
Around 10 aircraft were downed, i actually counted 6 downed in this movie but apparently the magazine explosion also downed a few aircraft so while it may not be truly accurate it is close to the estimated number
He didn't live to see it, but he was sure it would happen if hostilities with the U.S. didn't end quickly. None of the Japanese Army chiefs had any real notion of how powerful the United States was, and any concept of it's economic capacity.
Admiral Yamamoto did not want war with the United States. He was dead set against it. He was also an Admiral and followed his orders as best he knew how. You have a problem with that?
Yamamoto never want a war and he knows very well that once the war between Japan and US is extending past 6 months mark it would means an imminent loss for Japan. Unfortunately Tojo and every single of his superiors were overule him especially after Dutch + UK + US put oil embargo towards Japan and shut the Malacca Strait and all vital routes to Middle East for Japanese tankers.
If all the guns from main battery to 155mm to 128mm, to 25mm were firing, I am pretty sure every crewman on the deck is effectively DEAF within seconds.
Torpedo attacks would be launched on a perpendicular track to the ships' course, bombing and strafing runs would be along the axis of the ship's beam. Attacking along the bow or aft aspect of the ship was where the Yamato's air defense suite was weakest.
Our U.S. WWII Pilots were fearless, fierce and had balls of steel. If only I could've talked to and thanked such great men. It would've been a great privilege to have known these legendary American fighters. 🙏❤
My father was an escaped POW in hiding in the jungle in Japanese occupied central North Borneo, he was eventually recovered by Australian "Z" Special Force operatives At some point I met one of the first fellas to reach my father and had the privilege of thanking him for my existence
@@blujazz10000 He was excellent and so was his good Z Special mate "Lofty Hodges" He was wounded during the defence of Singapore and sent to Sandakan POW camp he survived the first Sandakan Death March and escaped from the extermination camp at Ranau and was very close to death when found He was one of only six survivors from more than two thousand four hundred British and Australians originally held at Sandakan He testified at the War Crimes Tribunals at Rabaul and Tokyo He was honoured in parliament when he passed away in 1997 and still speaks today on video in a specially dedicated area at the National War Memorial Canberra
@@hodaka1000 A real heartbreaker he lost so many mates but so glad he made it to testify and honor them for posterity. An amazing story, thank you very kindly for sharing. My grandfather was a U.S. Marine. He volunteered and went in at 15 years old. He was with some of the first groups of marines to go into Nagasaki after the bomb. He witnessed horrific scenes that stuck with him the rest of his days. As we say here in Western Pennsylvania "He was a real hardass." He loved us grandkids and later became a minister of the Protestant Christian faith. He was a lion and hero in our eyes. Also, he taught us to speak some japanese when we were very young. We can still speak a little. I still have japanese currency and a rising sun flag he gave me. Again, thank you so much for sharing your wonderful stories. It was a real pleasure to hear about these great men in your life and in your memories. I bid you goodnight from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
We also had more of them and didn't waste them on kamikaze attacks. All the best trained died at Midway, so they had rookies at this point, and no fighter support because...you guessed it, wasted on kamikaze attacks.
This is incredible cinematography - war is so tragic. Japan is a great nation that taught the world - do not attack America. We love peace. We will fight for it. We will never surrender for it.
Japan started the ww2 in 1937 and lost it. I told them this in 1984 during my study stay in Japan. I am terribly sorry all 100 milion victims in all the WW. ❤❤❤
The bravery and determination of the Japanese soldiers in this conflict was incredible. I really enjoy seeing films like this from their perspective. Tora Tora Tora is another excellent example
too bad it isnt their perspective, it is the perspective (some) people want them to have. these fine sailors enjoyed the privileges the Empire of Japan provided them, and went along with the numerous war crimes committed. They weren't brave soldiers, they gave that up when they began to disregard the rules of war for their code of bushido. Death before dishonor, well they never had any honor anyways so that leaves one thing to do.
@@albdamned577 Just as US soldiers enjoyed their privileges as they slaughtered Indigenous peoples of North America and herded the survivors into the American Desert to die.
The AA guns on Japanese ships were not radar directed like on American ships The Japanese were losing so many planes and pilots they had to start the kamikaze attacks
@@FP194 doesnt matter whether it was 25mm or 40mm, doesn't matter if it was radar directed or had a manual spotter, doesnt matter if the AA guns had to be reloaded manual or had automatic loaders by the time the battleship was fully set for battle, battleships themselves were useless mainly towards planes and dive bombers. Tha yamato was simply the final nail in the coffin to the age of battleships
yeah I want to hear the final fantasy victory fanfare going off as the AA batteries are blowing up. That's the sound you hear when the good guys beat the bad guys, right?
I bet the sailors on the Arizona and Oklahoma would disagree with that statement. The US Army and Navy personnel were murdered on a Sunday afternoon on a day that peace still held between the US and Japan. Japan did not declare war on the US until 1.5 hours AFTER their murder and the destruction of their ships and planes. The men on the Yamato were at war and prepared to defend their ship and themselves. The men and women in Pearl Harbor were at peace and not prepared for the carnage of Dec 7 1941. They had no chance to fight back against the men that murdered them.
That scene is much later in time , many years later. The old man is a survivor of the Yamato. The old man was one the young Yamato crew members during the battle.
If you’ve ever played world of warships. This clip accurately depicts what it’s like to be the only player on your team that gets focus fired by a carrier. Absolute carnage.
Real life events 'accurately depict' what a game is like....
@@DoubleMonoLR World of Warship is hugeee, cant believe they made a real war about it
WoWs is an abortion. Pacman with pretty graphics. See higher level post.
Let's be real, though. If you sailed off on your own instead of staying with and supporting your team, you were asking for it.
Eleven carriers.
The best eyewitness account that I’ve read about the death of Yamato was in ‘Destroyer Captain’ where a nearby DD witnessed the destruction. He said that the planes looked like a swarm of flies buzzing around the ship
A dinosaur in the age of air power
@@martinonroll yea that pretty much sums it up
Cpt. Hara was both the gem and the living memory of the Imperial Navy - people like him made such a long and bloody fight against state 10x more powerful at all possible.
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A ship that wasn’t designed to repel a large air attack plus it was on its own a capital ship will always have screening vessels around it
Read that book as a kid. That and Saburo Sakai''s story. Excellent reading.
Yamato's AA guns were still not being directed via radar, contrary to those on American ships. Instead the Japanese had a shouting guy pointing with a stick. Really shows the level of technological difference at this point in the war. Japan started off with very modern and often superior equipment, but just couldn't keep up once the US rolled up its sleeves.
Japan had roughly 5% of the United States output. Considering that, they kicked ass, but it was sheer madness and doom was inevitable.
I don't know if Yamamoto really said it, but that quote about awakening a sleeping giant, was true.
But it was a very special stick. Came with stripeys.
Thanks, I was wondering about the job of the shouting man with the black-and-white stick.
Just as an aside, the Yamato wasn't commissioned with radar. It was installed during refit in 1944, a full 3 years after Pearl Harbor and only a year before its sinking.
That Yamato replica used in filming this movie was impressive
A million visitors in less than a year... In Europe or the US they would milk it to the last cent. It seems that dismantling it went with the spirit of the Ten Go - to die being still strong. They wanted to avoid making it "a common attraction".
@@Edi_J I don't think any of that is accurate. Movie sets aren't built to last. If that was the case and we'd just "milk it dry," then there would be hundreds more movie sets just sitting around. Like the Titanic replica... which was disassembled.
Tour any number of filming locations around California even and you'd see that disassembly is standard practice.
@@AntonymLowe They just want a reason to hate on the US and Europe lol
Try Sabaton music. It's all based on history
The "Pearl Harbors" unleashed on Japan was unbelievable. Yamamoto was right they "Woke a Sleeping Giant."
*When Yamato was sunk by U.S. forces, during the last Japanese naval action of WWII, she took 2,747 men with her-all but 269 of her crew. Escorting Japanese ships lost an additional 1,167 men; making 3914 in total. Only 10 American aircraft went down in the battle, with the loss of just 12 American men. In all, Yamato took 12 bombs and seven torpedo hits within two hours of battle. An astounding series of explosions onboard Yamato produced the mushroom cloud seen shortly before she sank. Yamato settled on the seafloor 1,200 feet down and about 50 miles southwest of Kyushu, Japan.*
Thanks for the info. I wondered how many died.
I think I read somewhere that one American plane got caught up in Yamato's massive explosion.
An advantage of USN torpedoes post 1943 was the introduction of the British explosive Torpex. More than 1/2 again the explosive power of TNT. That and the damage was aimed at one side of the ship to capsize her.
@@ethanperks372 An infinitely greater explosive power than early war US torpedoes which had embarrassing habits of running too deep , their magnetic pistols not triggering, or on the rare occasions they got a contact hit, bouncing off with no more than a "boink"! You are correct about the shooting at one side - they learned that from sinking Yamato's sister, Musashi, at Leyte Gulf.
Last IJN naval action was actually the Battle of Malacca Strait in May 1945 where the IJN Heavy Cruiser Haguro was attacked and sunk by a squadron of British DDs in the last Surface action of WW2 and the last IJ naval operation of WW2.
This was to be Yamato's last voyage in any event, on what was in no uncertain terms a suicide mission. The last-ditch naval defense of the Japanese home islands, Operation Ten-Go, called for Yamato and all other large ships still operational, to make for Okinawa with all speed, where the Allied offensive had commenced a week prior, and then beach themselves to serve as a stationary shore batteries. In that situation they would all have been sitting ducks, and wouldn't have survived long.
As it was, she took around 3000 with her (around 280 survived), while the US lost 12 airmen. If she was already beached, many of those sailors might have survived (and there would have been far less on board). Although Seppuku may have still taken its toll :(
@@geoffhart Or not. Japanese losses on Okinawa were ghastly. Between regulars and Okinawan conscripts they lost around 100,000, with maybe around 8,000 surviving the battle. It was certainly no safer there.
She only had fuel for a one way trip.
The radar officer from the Yamato, survived the war and wrote a book.
He says the 'suicide mission', and 'only enough fuel for a one-way trip', as well as the 'beaching themselves' things are all myths.
The Admiral and Captain explained the plan to their officers. In some detail.
Then the ship's spotter plane was sent back to the homeland with the ship's log.
Whatever happened, nobody on board would be blamed for the result.
They intended to fight their way to the seas near Okinawa ( in a task force of 11 ships, remember ), aid any ships or forces there as they could, then draw enemy ships away by sailing West, before heading North after nightfall, to split pursuers.
They had fuel to get home, where the crew would be landed, and the Yamato camouflaged in a bay.
The surviving officer didn't think it would happen, but the suicidal nonsense had been dropped after the failure to hold Iwo Jima.
Instead, they would dig in and make the US pay for every step forward. Like happened in Okinawa.
@stevetheduck1425 While it's true that they carried more fuel than needed for a one-way trip, every history I have ever read on the subject disagrees with this about the mission. It's possible the exact orders were not shared outside command staff. I'm not sure why you emphasize the size of the task force. With no air cover, even arriving at Okinawa was always going to be chancy at best.
The unfortunate part for the Japanese was that despite Yamato and Musashi's incredibly large AA batteries, the 25mm, which is the one seen most commonly on Yamato, was utterly useless. They had an effective range of merely a kilometer, and even then it was expected to take 1500 rounds to successfully shoot down an aircraft. Compounding this was the fact the traverse for the guns and the mount were too slow, the sights were horrible for tracking aircraft, the guns were manually aimed, the triple mounts as seen became increasingly more inaccurate as fire was sustained, and also as seen, the magazines for the gun had very little ammo, resulting in constantly reloading and slowing down volume of fire. The Type 96 25mm is likely the second-worst AA gun of WWII, only beaten out by the 37mm Bolt-action (yes, bolt action) AA gun the Nazis had. The very same AA guns mounted on Bismarck that famously didn't score a single kill.
Wasn't Bismarck attacked by Wood and Canvas planes from the inter war period/ww1? If I remember correctly planes were hit but the bullets just went through
@@Pottan23 That's also true, as the fuses were calibrated to be set off by modern aluminum frame aircraft, but in the end volume of fire is still important. If the 37s were the automatic variant introduced in 42 or replaced with 20mm Flakvierlings, it's likely the Swordfish attack would not have been as successful and aircraft would've been shot down. Enough shells will eventually bring down any aircraft. In the end the problem was still a lack of fire rate.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 I believe the tirpitz had more success against the swordfish torpedo bombers during her sortie when she was spotted by the HMS Seawolf. Even then, she didn't shoot down more than 3-4 i believe. But she had no issues with speed and able to evade their torpedoes.
Wasn't it Us Admiral Lee that bent the regs to get as many 40MM and 20MM guns mounted on US ships in 43/44??? When you look at some of the ships from 44/45, it's like they stuck an AA gun wherever there was space.
@@Pottan23 I believe they think the Swordfish flew slower than the were used to. Maybe 120 knots at best for a torpedo run?
Hats off to those amazing stuntmen who filmed this amazing segment! And those sets and practical effects were top drawyer all the way.
Practical effects are always great to see being used in film and tv. I get some stuff has to be done with CGI these days but practical effects still work and they are slowly making a more of a return to be used more now like in the past
Most injuries were to their throats as with all Japanese movies involving death and violence.
Kudos to the Japanese actors in the movie they did a good job of playing their roles
One battleship against ten+ aircraft carriers is never gonna end well for the battleship.
Those are came from the USS Essex, no wonder BB Became Obsolete cuz of these Aircraft Carriers
it could, if it could fly like the space battleship with the same name.
but ten+ of anything larger than PT boats would never end well for a battleship
1200 aircraft were sent against Yamato in numerous waves.
280. Of which a large number were drawn off by Yahagi.
in WOWS it would probably win
It was a battleship design to fight ships not warplanes and the design seemed more fitting for the post WWI era than the end of WWII technology.
This Ship like most Japanese Ships were 1 Step above Miserable, This Ship had constant Engine Malfunctions, The Ship was so poorly built that many of the welds let go, and cracked, The Iron and Steel used to build this ship were of such poor quality, the metal fractured , fatigued , and cracked all over the ship, This was not a Mighty Ship to be feared, it was a POS Japanese built Death Trap, The Main Guns we see Blazing Away here, didn't have proper Sights, Rangefinder's or even proper Ammunition, The ship relied on spotters, and Gun Captains to feed range and firing instructions to the gunners with Flags, or Signal Paddles, People dont understand how far behind The Japanese were with the rest of the World, They were good at Night Fighting, and had some success, night attacks on US Ships, Destroying Several US Destroyer's and Cruiser's. Their Suicide Planes did the most damage. Early in the War The Dutch inflicted serious damage on Japanese Shipping, but The Dutch had too few Ships, so they relied on their Submarines' which did even more Damage to Japan's Navy, The Dutch didn't just try to disable or simply sink a Japanese Ship they wouldn't stop Firing until they Blew The Japanese Ships to pieces, and then Machine Gun survivor's in the water, just like the Japanese did to Dutch Sailor's, The Dutch also Rammed several Japanese Ships, and used small Patrol Boats to Harass and constantly shoot at Any Japanese Ships.
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They were fuel guzzlers for sure, but Yamato did sink an aircraft carrier and damage another. They were escort carriers, but still the range her guns hit are fairly impressive and the hits/near misses on the destroyers at Samar was good shooting. Issue was wrong shell type. USS Johnson's heroic run would have been cut short if the 18 inch shell that hit her was high explosive rather than AP.
ironically, the yamato was supposed to provoke america into building bigger battleships, in hopes that those ships wouldnt fit through the panama canal. (most of americas shipyards are on the east coast)
unfortunatly for the japanese, america went for aerial power instead of gunpower.
One of the things that is often overlooked, the Admiral who commanded the Yamato during Operation Ten-Go ordered all but the most essential personnel off the ship, even some of the less important engineering divisions where stripped of personnel. They where all aware it was a foolhardy suicide mission, and chose to save as many men from a delusional high command as they could.
They needed the space for all the extra men loading and manning the large number of additional AA guns added for this last mission. To keep one 25mm AA gun fed with ammo, there up to eight loaders. The triple mounts had as many as a dozen.
There was nothing "delusional" about the IJN General Staff. When the order to sail was issued EVERYONE involved was fully aware it was a one-way trip. However, they all saw defending Japan, (and the Emperor), to the last man, last ship, last plane, as their sacred duty.
@looneyburgmusic there is, and they were, even in their clouded mindset, what would be the point in sending men who were of no use in a ship battle along with the ship. With that mentality that you said they had, which I am not disputing they had, do you not think one of the Admirals or administrators of the IJN general staff have argued to keep those technicians, who might I remind where solely dedicated to the regular maintenance, not combat maintenance, of the Yamato to building defenses, or teaching students? Even prior to the defense of Iwo Jima, the Japanese Homeguard of both the army and navy were complaining of the lack of teachers that they were using fighter pilots to teach student how to wield a bamboo spear.
Instead, the general staff ordered ALL crew, including civilian maintenance workers from the docks, to head to battle. Even if we put away the first arguement that they would serve better on land, you can also make the point having a civilian crew on your military vessel about to engage the enemy decreases the ship's combat effectiveness. These were not trained sailors, about the most they would amount to is powder monkeys, but you already have dedicated military crew to run ammo. Again, nothing about it, even in the sense of defending the courts to the last man, woman, and child, hence why I state they were 100% delusional sith the effect those people would have.
@@looneyburgmusic And here we are in 2024 with Trump.
The old samurai who hid in bunkers sacrificed the men just to say they helped defend Okinawa. They couldn't let their true enemies, the Army cause them to lose face in front of the Emperor.
I you ever get a chance to watch the entire movie, I suggest you do. It is easy to forget in 2023 that this war was pretty much fought by children...anywhere from 16 to 23. Sure, officers were older but the people you see portrayed fit in that age group. Every person on that ship was told they would never see home again and they should prepare to die. The movie also went into how deeply the Japanese worshiped the Emperor and how every Military Officer assigned to Yamato was against this Suicide mission...until they heard the Emperor asked for the navy's help.
16 isn't exactly a child anymore. These were not "kids" as such, these were very young men.
@@dimasgirl2749 😂🤣 Um sweets, 16 is quite literally the definition of a TEEN-ager...a child! At that age you can't smoke, drink or vote in the vast majority of Western countries. But thank you for playing. 😉
Sadly so true...so many young men gave thier lives and fought to the end in WW2 and we owe them so, so much. Even those who fought on the other side, one can only hope they are resting in peace. It looks like we seem to learn nothing from history and I wonder whether todays generation even understand what a terrible thing those men and women went through for the freedoms we now enjoy, freedoms that now seem to slipping away and not even noticed.
@@vMaxHeadroom you just earned my total respect with that response. I have nothing I can add to it.
The special attack members of the Zero Fighter were also young boys. Try reading their many suicide notes. It contains heartbreaking farewell words to family members who will never be able to see each other again, as well as feelings of regret over one's own death. They didn't want to give up their future or time with their loved ones. As a Japanese person, I feel ashamed of the national and military leaders of the time.
I knew the Yamato was improperly set up for anti-aircraft defense but I was amazed at the number of US aircraft lost to sink her (just 10). In the case of the mighty Yamato, all those crewmen crammed onto that battleship was just 3,000 men neatly packaged for destruction.
Most of the US planes lost were not to AA fire. Most were knocked out of the sky when Yamato blew up.
@@panzerabwerkanone Citation needed. I've found unconfirmed reports of Yamato's explosion destroying "several" US planes observing it as it sank, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing even implying that more than 10 aircraft were lost to the explosion.
One smart Japanese officer suggested to scrap the Yamato and Musashi and use them to make aircraft for kamikazes....that would have been far more useful. But of course he was denied and that was considered heresy.
All Japanese Ships shared this problem, They viewed Anti Aircraft Guns as only moderately important,
The American pilots had a lot of experience at that time. Also, I think the strike package was around 300 planes. It's hard to pick out a single target so the damage tends to spread around.
After the mistakes sinking the Musashi. The torpedo planes concentrated on the same side of Yamato.
"I point my stick at you!" *explosion* "I'm a goddamn wizard!"
_"Wingardium explosiosa!" _*_Haru Potta-san_*
@@hmartinspliff love it. “You’re a wizard Haru Potta-San”
@@hmartinspliff 🤣
@@TrulyAskew Boom!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
When ships die in combat, it’s never pretty. The sailors in the USN and IJN were brave beyond words and many died horribly during the war in the Pacific. Sad, and a terrible waste.
Good men and women all fight and die on the battlefield. Regardless of the odds, they fought bravely and doing their duty. I do have to agree though, it’s a terrible waste of life
Ya. It's gruesome, which I appreciate this movie for doing a decent job of showing. But I don't appreciate the over-dramatization and banter among the Japanese 'actors'. Yes, they had respectable HONOR and COURAGE and VALOR, but the dramatization was just too over-the-top. I know Hollywood tries to be 'fair' and 'inclusive' to all races/genders/classes, but this was a bit much.
@@djbenje4019 How can you classify it as "too over the top" when you yourself have never experienced the horrors of war? Who are critics to know how to react in war?
@@djbenje4019 this wasn't produced in hollywood
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 agreed I feel like so many war films are merely watererd down version of the true horrors of war
Lt (jg)Lupo of Louisiana threw coke bottles and other loose items in his cockpit at the Yamato when he ran out of ordnance.
His plane is at the National WW2 Museum in New Orleans. It’s name is the Bayou Bomber.
What a legendary hardass. I'm so glad they preserved his plane! Very cool fact, thanks!
What a legendary hardass. I'm so glad they preserved his plane! Very cool fact, thanks!
A Japanese survivor said he had to go up on deck for something and there was an endless stream of machine gun bullets hitting all over the ship and bodies were been tossed around like rag dolls.
Kind of cute to see the worlds heaviest battle ship execute such a sharp turn to avoid torpedoes.
Lol yeah
For a ship its size, weight, and displacement, it would be hard to imagine for a ship that big executing tight turns to dodge torpedoes. But do recall that the Yamato was a state of the art ship of the line, with 12 boilers powering quadruple steam turbines, with 147,948 HP that drove 6 20-ft. wide propellers, and it had achieved a speed of 27 knots, which is about 50kmh!
Today's US Navy carriers can achieve a top speed of 32 knots, or 59 kmh!
Talk about "Super-sizing!"
Aerial US Navy photos of the battles of Yamato and even Musashi making these tight turns as they tried to evade the torpedoes, but it;s a numbers game when it comes to battle: too many attacking planes, one enemy battleship, with no air cover? The results are too simple.
The big ships during the war had a surprising amount of rudder authority and could turn really nimbly.
Especially when you see the ship either leaning INTO THE TURN, or failing to react to major centrifugal forces at all.
@halreader69 😂...oh you "recall " all of that? Google is great for instant "recollection" isn't it?😅
There was one deck gunner on the Bismarck as well, that was still firing ss it went under. This was reported by British pilots. The ship was sideways and tilted skywards. That is some legendary bulldog fighting!!!
Same with HMS Hood, the front half was vertical when one of the turrets let go it's pair of 15" guns. One last act of defiance.
There was one gunner in Armidale and Yarra who fought to the last and died with their ships to save their mates. All of us were members of our Navies who did our duty to the last. And that is why we have more in common than the bastards who sent us in harm's way.
The Russians probably took care of his girlfriend.
that is interesting as there were no British aircraft in the area at the time, not one, zero, nada
@@drno4837 Yes.
"War is war, and Hell is Hell, and of the two, war is a hell of a lot worse. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell."
Says hawlk eye to father mulcahee
Sherman said it better, but he was talking about reality.
Director: scream!
Actors: how much?
Director: yes!
lol
You could compare to the direction given in Pursuit of the Graf Spee (1956) (aka The Battle of the River Platte) from the Rank co. where they go very much in the opposite direction.
@@zubiez.524 White people just fight, not scream.
And so it was that they became a screamy bunch.
HAHAHAA
A pretty good stab at what it might have been like onboard. Some inaccuracies: it didn't quietly slip beneath the waves. It actually flipped over and exploded because of a magazine fire. The attacking aircraft are shown turning corners like a "car" which they don't do. They have something called a coordinated turn that still doesn't look like a car even if the pilot cheats the turn. The attacking aircraft are sometimes shown as P47s which would not have happened. When P47s launched from carriers, they were merely being delivered to islands, not engaging in combat.
Same things I noticed. "The Great War of Archimedes" begins with a shorter but far less technically challenged portrayal of this battle.
Those were SB2C Helldivers, not P-47s.
Frankly, YAMATO was more trouble than she was worth. She was wanting in maneuverability and was a major fuel hog. And in the resource-poor area known as the Western Pacific, that's a serious downside. She spent most of her time in port and her only real accomplishment was wounding the JOHNSTON before being chased off by HEERMANN's torpedoes.
Yes true. The architect designed her to be sacrificed.
Agreed. Her only surface engagement was a loss to a DE and a couple DDs
Hey, surviving a fight with USS Johnston is nothing to sneeze at… 🙂
@@kingleech16 She returned empty-handed and didn't accomplish her goal. JOHNSTON and Taffy 3 completely humiliated her and the rest of Center Force.
Hindsight is 2020, the Great War of Archimedes dives into this discussion.
This may be the first movie that shows the planes are actively spraying guns to the AA crew. Maybe because during the sinking of Yamato, they knew Japan no longer has air power, ergo no need to save bullets for air battle.
not just bullets either! they strapped the hellcats with HVAR rockets to help take out AA emplacements
Also the first movie I've seen that depicted the F8F Bearcat in WW2 as well as the F47N "naval" Thunderbolt in combat😛
At this point of war, Japan was cut off from fuel & supplies. The best of Japanese naval fleet were finished during the Guadalcanal & Mariana Islands campaign
The US has always enjoyed a near infinte budget for the expenditure of ammunition. The Germans described it as the yanks can summon more firepower for a diversion than we can for an attack.
Japanese tanks had also become infamous for being torn apart by 50cal machine guns. It appears the protective casements for the ship AA guns were just as permeable.
米国の対空砲火と決定的に違うのは、高角砲の弾幕によって航空機を落とすのではなく、米軍機の攻撃を躊躇わせ、近づけなくするのが日本海軍の対空砲火だった。
しかしこれには正確な輪形陣と、ある程度の艦船の数、敵機を叩き落とす友軍機が必要だった。
最初のうちは大和の対空砲火は正常に働いていたが、敵機を落とす役割の友軍機も、艦艇の数も足りなかった。
速度のある戦闘機による機銃掃射で左舷の機銃要員が壊滅すると、鈍足な雷撃機でも接近が容易になり、10本以上の魚雷が左舷に集中的に命中、転覆した。
対航空機用の防弾シールドもなく
生身の身体をさらしたまま高角砲を打ち続け
機銃掃射の餌食になる彼らが哀れでなりません
this is the disney version compared to how terrifying it would have been to be on that ship.
Couldn't be Disney... no gay chick girl bosses ruining everything.
Yes Indeed this is a Movie the real battle was much worse, but they did a good job with this,
Karma is a vicious bitch sometimes.
Agreed. Not enough flying arms and legs
My uncle saw a guy get hit by a shell. . Only thing in tact was the feet in the boots
I guess they found out how the crews of the Repulse and Prince of Wales felt ?
Not even these poor kids fault. The militaristic government poisoned the country.
Don’t be a hater. They just retaliated against unfair demands and hateful restrictions put on their own countries. Japan especially. All other countries as well, & even the Germans from ww1 war indemnities !
WHO TF we’re the US & UK to put ridiculous restrictions on things like the kind of ships countries can have & the size of their guns, etc.
What a joke !
確かに。
それこそが戦争ですね。
撃てば 撃たれる。
殺せば 殺される。
日本は、そのサイクルから脱け出す事には成功しました。
それが長く続く事を願っています。
It didn't take long
Nah, those sailors were minding their own business when the Nazis declared war on them. This is more how the Bismarck felt. Those people had it coming (they were Nazis or at least fought for Nazis).
I read a great book about this battleship. By the time it was done being built battleships were entirely obsolete.
The Japanese recognized that fact. A third superbattleship like Yamato was being built, and was converted to an aircraft carrier, the Shinano.
That didn't help at all, though, Shinano was sunk by an American submarine before it ever got into combat.
Something the Japanese of ww2 didn’t learn from their own success until it was too late. By the time they realized building massive battleships was stupid in an air-power war it was too late. They even tried converting a half built sister ship of the Yamato into, I believe and could be wrong, the largest carrier at that time. We sunk that one also.
Battleships designed like the Yamato sure. Battleships designed like the Iowa through were in my mind a completely different beast.
In a way, the attack on Pearl Harbour was a strategic disaster for Japan. Being deprived of battleships, the US turned to its aircraft carriers as its principal striking arm, creating fleets with an aircraft carrier at their centre. But the Japanese never learned that lesson until too late. Even though they had the best carrier divisions of the early war, by far, aircraft carriers were always supporting units for the big guns ... their battleships. By the time they realised that the battleship's day was done, it was too late for them.@@tarn1135
Which ironically the Japanese proved.
The shock from being hit by a .50 caliber bullet would likely kill you, even if it didn't take off an arm or leg, or just blow you in half or your head clean off your shoulders.
Seems merciful compared with a lot of the other deaths here.
It depends. A delta guy caught a 14.7 round in the abdomen in Grenada and lived to be a General
@@StatmanRN That is one lucky General.
I’m tellin’ ya, it stings like the dickens.
At 0:02 there's an error: The Avengers were torpedo bombers, not dive bombers. The TBFs attacked first to cripple the ship so that the dive bombers (Curtiss Helldiver) had a chance to hit the crucial parts (not the turrets nor the citadel, they were armored too heavily).
Avengers can be a bomber
@@captainruscahypothetical scenario! There was no reason to even attempt your argument
이거야말로 함선으로 자행한 초대형규모의 카미카제 자폭시도였음. 3천이 넘는 승선인원중 고작 300명도 살아남지 못했던 역사상 최대의 뻘짓. 히로히토가 전범이 아니라고? 이 미친짓이 그자의 방정맞은 주둥이질땜에 시작되었는데?
Wrong,AVENGERS could be fitted out with either or..Study up!
Mom: ''Aww, look at him playing with his lego's!''
The scenario in my imagination:
@@Feeeeeeshy LOL. Its my scenario too 🤪👍
Such a beautiful Battle Wagon though. Her Crew fought with honor. May they rest in peace with their ship
RIP to everyone from Pearl
@@DeezzzzzzNuts12 of course. R I P.
The bravery of the pilots is beyond words
This is by far the best scene of ship battle I’ve seen since Master and Commander
Aircraft at 0:55 looks more like a P-47D "Razorback" than anything that was actually there. Aircraft maneuvers are impossibly tight & often "non-ballistic" with sharp, flat turns. Weird animation.
And they reported 'Avenger Dive Bombers'.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935right? If they’re dive bombers then they should have said Dauntless but the opening of the bomb bay has me thinking that it is a TBF Avenger with a 1000lb in her belly
This is why every ship works best in a group. Even in World of Warships playing the Tier X Yamato, i will never venture forward without my Cruisers and Destroyers.
Yamato had destroyers and cruisers screen.
Most of them were taken out early in the fight.
Yamato *was* in a group. It was just so late in the war it didn’t matter.
The Yamato, did go as a group. If memory serves, A cruiser and five destroyers.
The Kidobutai, the 4 Carriers and their escorts at Midway, didn't fare any better, and they had 3X the ships, in formation, all firing AA.
With ever i play as battleship, i never full speed ahead, camp on 1 spot then snipe what ever enemy ship i spot/my team spot, or just ambush the unlucky enemy ship that appear from corner of my camp spot
Thus ended definitely the still lingering debate between the battleship line of battle versus carrier-centered strike forces.
War never changes.
There's only three rules in War.
Rule one. Old men start war's
Rule two. Young men die in war.
Rule three. Old men can't change rule number two.
Be vary careful on which Old men we choose for leadership.
0. Rule: dictators start wars in 99,99% like Hitler, Todjo, Putler,...
Conversely,
Old men discovered penicillin, invented radar, the mobile phone,
Touch screens, the computer, the jet engine,
While young men were playing with toys.
@@damonbryan7232 dont vote for trump then 😆
“40 Avenger Dive bombers coming - and they look really pissed!”
Grumman TBF Avengers are torpedo bombers. TBs approach low and slow, while dive bombers come down at ~65° and as fast as possible. No way to mistake them. Also, dive bombers would almost certainly go in first to soften up the AAA. I wonder who made the mistake, the Japs, or some foreign Anglophone?
Yeah... Avengers were torpedo planes. Helldivers were the dive bombers by this time in the US Navy.
And then, about 250 years later, they raised the Yamato, put a wave-motion engine in it, and it went on to save humanity.
Nat Geo did a show in the 80's or 90's showing the decay of WW2 ships sunk.theres appeared to be deteriorated faster too.😂🧐🧑🔧🏴☠️🥸
This
Three times
And this is why anime is trash.
I can still hear the theme (in Japanese, of course)... YAAAA MAAAA TO!
Yamamoto said it right at the beginning of the war, " I fear all we have done is awken a sleeping giant." Even the mightiest battleship ever been built doesn't have a chance to stand in its way.
Myth, he never said that. He did expess doubts about Nippon's capacity to fight an extended war.
This is a very moving film, even if it's a little over-the-top in some ways. It drives home the point that all those impersonal casualty totals you see about any battle weren't just numbers, but flesh and bone people having things like this done to them.
I've never seen a dubbed version, so it's always interesting to hear the name of the ship properly pronounced YA-ma-to instead of ya-MA-to as always heard in English language documentaries about the ship.
何度大和の物語を観ても悔しいですが、これは世界の全ての戦闘鑑艦の物語でもあります。
それは正しい。戦争に関して言えば、それは輝かしいものではない
@@Xingmey 例え大和と比べ、格段に性能が良い対空火器を備えたアイオワ級でさえも400機近くの攻撃機による波上攻撃を喰らえばひとたまりもありません。単にアメリカは戦艦の運用法が良かっただけであり、戦艦のスペックだけを見るのであれば、大和の方がアイオワより優れている。
A fair and true assessment.
2:30, I hate when movies put in the noise of the Stuka-Sirens ("Jericho-Trompete") on aircraft scenes just for the sake of it.
Yesssss And on top they are navigating like cars attached to a carousel. 12:37 🤧
That's the prop tip approaching supersonic in a dive making that noise
Big ships were no match against the small dive bombers, and torpedo bombers aircraft even with the ship being armed with many anti-aircraft guns.
Yamato represented a traditionalist approach to Naval combat. Depending on bigger guns instead of taking advantage of cutting edge technology. Don't get me wrong Yamato was an impressive ship no argument there. But as war of Archemides indicated despite how impressive it still had a fatal flaw and if it survived TENGO it would have eventually sunk before reaching Okinawa. It's just a question of submarine, warship or aircraft.
As an American, I respect all warriors who fought for their country no matter which one. I hope and pray that one day we may all get along as gods children and there will be no more war!
The planet is not getting bigger, its resources are decreasing. The collapse of the USSR destroyed competition, so there is no talk of colonizing other planets. This means that "the most democratic and free country in the world" will continue to develop war and see coups d'etat, color revolutions and colonialist robberies of countries all over the planet. The existence of gods and life after death contradicts Science.
@@DanetteScheel
Gods create war.
Which god are you a child of?
@@DanetteScheel солодкі мрії...
Do you mean it? Do you really mean "as gods children"? Or do you mean, "GOD's children"? How can there be no more war? Humankind is Fallen, they are ruled by the Original Sin, of Adam and Eve, which corrupts the whole planet.
Look at your own history. Founded 1776, 247 years ago, with just 16 years of peace in that time, you have been AT WAR for 93% of your existence. Your so-called "land of the free" is built on the skeletons of between 60 and 100 million of the indigenous peoples. You used atomic weapons on two, mainly, civilian targets, rather than the navy or army. You allow school massacres to happen every month, and do NOTHING to stop the slaughter. You allow your country to have the most murders, per capita, than any other country in the world. You allow your country to have the most rapes, per capita, than any other country in the world. You allow your country to have the most drug deaths, per capita, than any other country in the world.
I don't think your dream can be achieved, until you convert to the One, True, Christian Faith. And you won't do that, because Satan has taught you to hate us.
War is created by Devil.
No CAP you are in serious trouble and it doomed this massive ship. Not a bad video at all well done. The Hellcats ate up the deck crews. What courage those pilots had..
They were thinking about pearl
@@DeezzzzzzNuts12Oh yeah payback time. Don't blame them a bit.
Not courage, pure hate
pearl harbor was like yesterday for them...
@@HanaNoxxiT Not just any Hate and for Pearl Harbor
Likely everything they have heard about how Japan treated their people and other people likely fuel it even more
The dive bombers were Helldivers and they were attacking from to high an angle for the 25mm guns to attack
The Torpedo bombers were releasing their Torpedos at the max range of the 25mm guns
The 25mm was a horrible weapon
Only downed like 10 planes though
Japanese doctrine was that the quality of the weapon was irrelevant, it was the warrior that mattered
@@craigwheller absolutely not, Japanese doctrine tended to hinge on the quality of their weapons, particularly at the start, because they were well aware of the United States' incredible industrial capability, they wanted to make swift, large strikes with powerful weapons, like the excellent type 93 torpedo, however once the United States began to ramp up both production and innovation they quickly began to outmatch the Japanese in almost all ways
Bro you are ignorant. 20mm cannons used by the Allies were pretty much the same. That’s why they had 40mm as well.
@@steviejohnson378 The 20mm and 40mm weapons the allies used were probably better, it's not just calibre that determines efficacy. Also keep in mind that the Allies developed VT fuzes, proximity shells for their AA.
Holy chit! That was intense! I'm going to have to look up that movie
Was it 10% battle, 10% character development, 10% talking about history, and 70% romantic drama nonsense?
@@cashewnuttel9054 who gives af
I can't imagine getting sprayed with .50 cal on an armored deck is any fun. That had to be a brutal fight.
they didnt show it in the movie but they also used HVAR rockets too
Oh man when the bullet hit that metal plate it must have turned into shrapnel to boot. Sheer hell.
And very few movies or tv shows really show what a .50 cal does to the human body….Its not pretty is saying the least about it!
@@StryderK The fourth Rambo movie has a pretty accurate depiction... 😲
They used 20mm's 50's the tail gunners and High Velocity Aircraft Rockets. Not a fun day to be an IJN anti aircraft crew
It was reported that when Yamato blew up you could see the explosion from the Japanese islands. It was definitely a suicide mission.
It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow fond of it
Robert E. Lee
Probably. The Yamato blew up closer to the Japanese islands than to its destination Okinawa.
I give you much props for quoting Marse Robert.
But Lee loved it. He ruined the Army of Northern Virginia in only 13 months. After Gettysburg, the elite soldiers were gone. They were on the defense almost continually. The exception being Bristoe Station, which didn't turn out well.
It was also reported that the explosion took out more fighter than were shot down by AA fire. 4 fighters were apparently taken out by he explosion, while only 3 were actually shot down. Sad, but true.
I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL VIDEOS OF THE BATTLESHIP YAMATO
AND YOURS IS THE BEST OF ALL, IT LOOKS PERFECT.. CONGRATULATIONS.
Those 50cal strafing runs are so brutal. I shudder to imagine what the deck of yamato truthfully looked like on that day.. alot more gory lol
Yeah, the minor technical difficulty in depiction is that 50 cals and 20mm cannon doesnt just "make you bloody" here.
They're likely seeing body parts, blown off limbs, and severed torso everywhere.
@@ShuberFuber yeah man exactly.. knowing the true power of 50s lmao im sure the yamato was covered in literal mince meat xD
..for sure those were useful for clearing the deck of crew manning the guns, an important thing for sure! But I'd like to know the US Aircraft attack plan, which was obviously carefully thought out ahead of time and implemented to a T! There's no way aircraft could have sunk a ship as massive as the Yamato without knowing exactly what they were doing, where to put the bombs, when to strafe the deck to clear the AA fire so the Helldivers and Dauntless could come in and do their jobs. The Navy fliers orchestrated that attack like a symphony.
@@robertmaybeth3434 the did have reports on how they planned it. Because the Yamato group lacked any fighter cover, the entire strike group just circled outside the AA range and talked over the radio to discuss their plan. And it all boils down to this.
1. Every non-torpedoe plane goes in first, bomb anything they can bomb and strafe anything they can strafe.
2. Once the AAs are sufficiently silenced (aka most of them are dead), all the torpedoes bombers go in and hit one side of the ship to try to have it roll over (by flooding one side of the ship).
@@ShuberFuber Genius... and guts. Those were a lot of courageous people on both sides of that battle.
man that was just brutal.
Yea.. at least they were prepared . The sailors aboard the Arizona didn't stand a chance.
@@tommybrown9534 thats true the routhless enemy didnt showed mercy especially the Kamikaze
@@SPXJUICE75 yea dude the Kamikaze attacks were mind blowing.. I can't understand how some1 would willingly crash their plane into a target knowing they'd lose their life.. smh. I'm sure the Americans were horrified by it.
This really well explains why warships had small armies for theyr crews.
Its a pure carnage, no matter what method delivers the lead.
My father was a pow to the Japanese in the Philippines, he reupped as a Philippine scout for his knowledge of 4 islands he had to march or swim across !
I'm Filipino. Thank you to your father for what he did. I had relatives who survived the Bataan death march.
Uss Planes are full skill bullets
Eerily similar to the Titanic.
Both record-breaking huge ships.
Both split in half.
Both ending with tragic fates and destroyed early.
Both having most of their people dead.
Both heavily noted in history.
Had the same thought as well.
terrifyingly real stunt and pyro work on this film, and excellent character action. fantastic production honoring heroic men.
It surprised me how the Japanese people were known for having the Military army and weapons in the war, even what this ships was a surprise for American when it was released. But even with that enormous ship, USA took it down… It’s well said what every single thing has an “Achilles heel” even an enormous ship like the Yamato.
Edit: A very good movie in my opinion, because it shows how the Yamato did it’s labor in war, and what happened to the survivors... may now have a good rest. Everyone who served at war.
It's about the military doctrine of the IJN, completely different from the US Navy. They lost the war the moment they failed at Midway.(and the poor damage to pearl harbor on the start)
By the time they have lost most of the carriers, Japan had little resources left to supply everything.. Yamato and Musashi (same type of BB) failed to stop the landing forces in the Philippines.. because of how difficult it turned to be to sink the Musashi with aircrafts, they shifted the torpedo bomber runs to hit both sides of the ship. Musashi was hit by an enormous quantity of torps, but most if not all in the same side, and by counterflooding the other side.. they saved the ship from sinking but had to fall back away from the task force.. and it exploded hours later if I'm not wrong. But the Americans expected to sink it on spot, not to hear that it later got blown up by something wrong inside.
With the Yamato they knew where to hit him, because of what they have learned from the Musashi, Yamato crew wasn't able to do counterflooding, when it listed to one side, they couldn't stop it.
And about the operation, all of the crew knew it was a last stand to achieve an honorable death through fighting. Probably they expected to receive only aircrafts.. but I'm sure that by their own doctrine and military culture, the result of not being engaged by any surface ships meant that their enemies used a disgraceful strategy, by not meeting the last seaworthy battleship of the empire of Japan in sea to engage in a naval battle of battleships. Which is what the imperial navy focused on since the battle of Tsushima, to build and use strategies to achieve victory by using the biggest guns of the fleet. And not by protecting correctly and using the carriers to harass the enemy with superior air power.
That's my view about the philosophy and culture behind what led them to those kinds of encounters. And the fall of the Yamato equals the fall of the samurai by new Europeans type of gunfire weapons such as the Gatling cannon.
don't forget, the Musashi was sunk months prior to this battle. japan knew they was screwed for that "one decisive battle"
@@lightravenn If that were truly the Japanese war philosophy, then how do you explain Pearl Harbor? They used air power to attack battleships that weren't even moving. And their own battleships never fired a shot.
@@jamesfenter4194 Air Raids were a thing, the british lost their own big ships thanks to japanese air attacks.
Im talking about the concept of how to deal with war on the long run.
If you check the japanese had carriers, and air superiority at the start. But what im talking about is the military doctrine that the superior officers (the one in command of operations) had in their heads since naval school.
Isoroku Yamamoto knew a lot about the US capabilities because he was stationed in the US long enough to learn their own capabilities, a common task for any military officer doing diplomatic duties.
He knew that for Nippon to be able to reach a positive outcome, it was not enough with taking the resources from the hands of the Europeans. It is clear that for him the US military should not be taken lightly like with the european expedition forces. Im sure he was not happy about the debrief of the pearl harbor operation.
The primary targets were the CVs, BBs, airfields and any oil depot/dry dock. All of them equally important, at least for Yamamoto.. but he wasnt leading the carriers. The third wave of bombers never left the carriers, probably the high command of the carriers feared the counter attack from the missing US carriers, and other unknowns of the fog of war like subs and other stuff.
And by not securing those targets im sure Yamamoto knew their odds were not as good as they needed, and probably just went with it reluctantly as a senior officer who knows he cant control everything.
The attack on pearl, as with the attack of many other city ports, was absolutely ok for them because it was meant to hit the capabilities of the enemy.
The surface battles were not ok for them because the heavy use of aircraft meant that they couldnt fight 1v1 with surface targets.
Of course that when they did fight those few surface battles they failed to achieve victory, but at least by how they been raised from the navy school, the dying fighting such battles was an honor.
Thats why examples like the destroyer escort who faced the battleships with lesser inch guns and fought until the end was something really honorable to watch in an enemy.
There was a lot of hatred due to skin color, just to improve the rate of new recruits and will to fight. Which led to many cases of treating the opponent like an animal. But on this case, where the big surface task force managed to get in range of some "escort carriers", watching the destroyers making runs with absolute courage was something not even a sailor could ignore, because that felt like something an honorable human would do. Facing the enemy without fear "embracing death" if it shall come was something respected back then.
The Yamato did fuck all during the entire war. Sailors jokingly called it Hotel Yamato, because being stationed on it meant you would never see combat. This was its only combat mission ever where it was sent on a suicide mission. This is the first time its 16 inch guns were fired and those beehive shells were useless against aircraft. Given the amount of resources spent on build it, it would be considered an absolute failure. Largest battleship ever and its only kill count was a dozen american planes, half of which probably went down from mechanical failure.
This makes Hamburger hill look like a Sunday picnic.
As far as I know the ship did not have enough fuel to get back with. Its mission was to hold up the Americans until sunk and for the dailors to fight on land. It was the last throw of the dice. The game was up Japan was putting of the inevitable. The Japanese no longer had the resources to take on the Americans or replace their losses.
第32任務部隊を引き付けにしたことと大和を補足するために大人員と時間と空母艦載機350機とそれに伴う沖縄への爆弾火薬量を往復１０００機近く裂かせたはずで、それでも沖縄県民の1/4が無差別攻撃や毒ガスなどで犠牲になった。大和は沖縄の米艦隊への打撃、ならび沖縄救援のために向かいました。これを天一号または菊水作戦と呼び、第二水雷戦隊の最後の栄光としての水上特攻作戦であり、その目的は沖縄の海に乗り上げての要塞化でした。 無理であることは承知していましたが、軍人というのは国を守る装置であり、世界大戦というものは、そういう国家総力戦です。
To me the most impressive replica of the Yamato is that one in her Museum at Kure. Scale 1:10, length 26.3 ms, but is her weight 6300 tons? You know, 63.000 tons : 10, or even 6467.8 tons. Actually she should have weighed 7280.9 tons. Accuracy pressed to the limit! But even without it simply masterpiece of ship modelling! 😊♍
When the scale is 1:10, the volume is 1:1000. Roughly, supposed that weight ≈ C·volume, you can deduce the model’s weight should be around 60-70 tons.
@@punkylex4879 He's posting "facts" on the internet, math is not likely his strong suit.
Casting director : Can you scream and yell......?
Potential extra : yes....
Yell you have yell like a Japanese,
At least it had the opportunity to be badass in space with Okita's captaincy...
Stories from "enemies" far in the past are interesting. You see it from their point of view.
Yes, Like "Das Boot", I've always liked movies' with happy endings!!!
Is there a better naval vs. air scene than this? This is the best i have seen.
Watch Tora! Tora! Tora!
Tora Tora Tora yes!!
You liked this better than Midway (2019)?
@@maemorri I have only seen clips of midway. Too much Hollywood, perspective from dive bombers, counting down. Maybe i should see the whole film. My grandfather, william srnensky, served in the Pacific, WWII, spent 12 hours in the Pacific after his shop was destroyed, waiting to be rescued or waiting to die. While from the japanese side, i guess that's why this clip resonates with me, very battleship-centric.
@@mikedarrah6945 Midway was okay, but like most movies, it takes several long minutes to show you what happened in a few seconds. The ONLY 2 naval warfare movies I can remember seeing in ages that didn't fall into the Hollywood romance trap & spend too much time there were "Das Boot" & "Master & Commander"...& the latter is set in 1805, but still the best of the best by my lights. It's hardly all action; they had to sail halfway 'round the world & the movie addresses that. Sorry. It's realistic...except for the odd prop wash...
Ich ertrage es nicht! Dieses schöne, starke Schiff und seine tapfere Besatzung.
It doesn't matter which nation or ideology or faith, both sides suffer equally in war. It has been said that war is the failure of diplomacy or of our leaders, who have learned nothing over the span of human civilization. Every conflict becomes more efficient in murdering our kind, and yet even knowing the horrors of war, the leaders of nations still think they have mastered it.
They have only mastered the art of suffering. If only our leaders were at the front ,rifle in hand fighting for their own wars perhaps then they would learn the lesson that is plain for all to see.
War is hell, and if you start one, Hell is were you deserve to go.
And yet it our duty to fight and preserve such peace and balance in the world to promote progress. World war 2 was fought to preserve lasting peace many that volunteered fought to free the oppressed and those that were invaded.
The Yamato Battleship represented Imperial Japan's ambition it took so long to build yet it took so fast to sink with all their atrocities and crimes it was put to an end by the Americans and yet it was then given a new, Modern Japan became one of the beacons of progress during the post war era.
Wars are cruel and violent but just as the storms and calamities struck life is always reborn such is the cycle of life.
Yeah the imperial japanese dont deserve that compassion
Two wasnt enough
@@LEGIONCABAL The greatest insult was compassion we showed them there ways were obsolete, vile, and barbaric. Hence why no matter how hard they compare they will never surpass us the West in our ability to do such cruelty and mercy. Its even an insult cause in their culture japan is called the land of the rising sun and there god is called amaterasu the sun god quite fitting. History has a good sense of humor.
Yeah this wasn’t a both sides war. It was a blatant war of aggression, so what we say or we will kill you. What are you supposed to say diplomatically about that? The soldiers serving the empire of Japan were willingly helping the mass murder of 30 million people. The only good Japanese soldiers were the ones that went awol the first chance they had. The rest are complicit beneficiaries of that mass murder. They may even have buyers remorse, but they would have felt differently if they had won.
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That's certainly bogus.
Japan had insane bravery and equally insane strategic hopes.
Aristotle makes the distinction between cowardice, bravery, and foolhardiness. He put bravery in the middle of the other two terms, describing it as a golden mean. The Japanese were not brave; nor were they cowards. They also fully knew what others would do in reacting to Japanese aggression.
Man, all the knowledge shared here by all of you has my historical head spinning!
You are all just so incredibly brilliant!
Learning so much.
Japan knew that it couldn't win a long war with America because of there industrial capability, so they built impressive ships like Yamato, special cruisers like the Atago-class, Tone-class etc. To make up for the lack of ships they can build at a time. Even the ships architecture is impressive and beautiful, but a good looking ship can only take you so far. Especially if the age of warfare has shifted. As Beautiful as Yamato is and impressive, she was hopeless against an enemie she couldn't fight back.
Wow that is a really great cooler at the 17:44 mark even has holders for drinks.
The scene is modern day. The old fisherman is the young sailor that survived the Yamato sinking.
A very worthwhile representation.
At the risk of sounding controversial, i do fear however thst they show more american planes being shot down than were in reality. But it is a movie.
Around 10 aircraft were downed, i actually counted 6 downed in this movie but apparently the magazine explosion also downed a few aircraft so while it may not be truly accurate it is close to the estimated number
Meh.
War is Hell for the Winners & the Losers
Too bad Yamamoto wasn't there to see the final destruction of the IJN.
He didn't live to see it, but he was sure it would happen if hostilities with the U.S. didn't end quickly. None of the Japanese Army chiefs had any real notion of how powerful the United States was, and any concept of it's economic capacity.
Yamamoto never even wanted the war to happen, he was overruled.
Admiral Yamamoto did not want war with the United States. He was dead set against it. He was also an Admiral and followed his orders as best he knew how. You have a problem with that?
Yamamoto never want a war and he knows very well that once the war between Japan and US is extending past 6 months mark it would means an imminent loss for Japan. Unfortunately Tojo and every single of his superiors were overule him especially after Dutch + UK + US put oil embargo towards Japan and shut the Malacca Strait and all vital routes to Middle East for Japanese tankers.
The Japanese Royal Imperial Navy......1945 GRAND PRIZE WINNER in the FAFO international games. And boy, did they find out !
If all the guns from main battery to 155mm to 128mm, to 25mm were firing, I am pretty sure every crewman on the deck is effectively DEAF within seconds.
That is why the gun chief has his pretty pointing stick.
Torpedo attacks would be launched on a perpendicular track to the ships' course, bombing and strafing runs would be along the axis of the ship's beam. Attacking along the bow or aft aspect of the ship was where the Yamato's air defense suite was weakest.
Respect to those brave Japanese sailors.
The Yamato & the Musashi both were incredibly lethal and while sinking these ships was an absolute necessity, it's tragic.
Our U.S. WWII Pilots were fearless, fierce and had balls of steel.
If only I could've talked to and thanked such great men. It would've been a great privilege to have known these legendary American fighters. 🙏❤
My father was an escaped POW in hiding in the jungle in Japanese occupied central North Borneo, he was eventually recovered by Australian "Z" Special Force operatives
At some point I met one of the first fellas to reach my father and had the privilege of thanking him for my existence
@@hodaka1000 Wow, thank the good Lord the fellas from down under found him out in the bush.
God bless your beloved, brave dad.❤🙏
@@blujazz10000
He was excellent and so was his good Z Special mate "Lofty Hodges"
He was wounded during the defence of Singapore and sent to Sandakan POW camp he survived the first Sandakan Death March and escaped from the extermination camp at Ranau and was very close to death when found
He was one of only six survivors from more than two thousand four hundred British and Australians originally held at Sandakan
He testified at the War Crimes Tribunals at Rabaul and Tokyo
He was honoured in parliament when he passed away in 1997 and still speaks today on video in a specially dedicated area at the National War Memorial Canberra
@@hodaka1000 A real heartbreaker he lost so many mates but so glad he made it to testify and honor them for posterity. An amazing story, thank you very kindly for sharing.
My grandfather was a U.S. Marine. He volunteered and went in at 15 years old.
He was with some of the first groups of marines to go into Nagasaki after the bomb. He witnessed horrific scenes that stuck with him the rest of his days. As we say here in Western Pennsylvania "He was a real hardass."
He loved us grandkids and later became a minister of the Protestant Christian faith. He was a lion and hero in our eyes. Also, he taught us to speak some japanese when we were very young. We can still speak a little. I still have japanese currency and a rising sun flag he gave me.
Again, thank you so much for sharing your wonderful stories. It was a real pleasure to hear about these great men in your life and in your memories.
I bid you goodnight from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
We also had more of them and didn't waste them on kamikaze attacks. All the best trained died at Midway, so they had rookies at this point, and no fighter support because...you guessed it, wasted on kamikaze attacks.
This is incredible cinematography - war is so tragic. Japan is a great nation that taught the world - do not attack America. We love peace. We will fight for it. We will never surrender for it.
Japan started the ww2 in 1937 and lost it. I told them this in 1984 during my study stay in Japan. I am terribly sorry all 100 milion victims in all the WW. ❤❤❤
In Asia yeah but in Europe is a different story. That's why historians are confused, it's 37 or 39
@@nandinhocunha440 …you are true. Besides are Spain Etiopia….🍀🍀
@@belomolnar2128 yeah. But with Spain it's a civil war and Ethiopia it's just war. It's just weird
Yamato ❤️🌹🥀🌹🥀🌹❤️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️❤️🌹🥀
There should NEVER be wild swinging of weapon system muzzles from assigned sectors of fire. Watch your sector and engage targets of opportunity.
The bravery and determination of the Japanese soldiers in this conflict was incredible. I really enjoy seeing films like this from their perspective. Tora Tora Tora is another excellent example
Exacto!
too bad it isnt their perspective, it is the perspective (some) people want them to have. these fine sailors enjoyed the privileges the Empire of Japan provided them, and went along with the numerous war crimes committed. They weren't brave soldiers, they gave that up when they began to disregard the rules of war for their code of bushido. Death before dishonor, well they never had any honor anyways so that leaves one thing to do.
@@albdamned577
Just as US soldiers enjoyed their privileges as they slaughtered Indigenous peoples of North America and herded the survivors into the American Desert to die.
Bravery? They were fanatics . My Grandfather fought them in ww2 and had nothing good to say about them, to put it mildly.
@@danielmeadows3712 I’m sure he knew many of them personally as well
The Japanese made a lot of progress when it came to ship building and hardware and etc … I love Japanese warships
out in the jungle, me and the 200 mosquitos be like....
so you catch fire roll over and explode of a mosquitos bit you might want see a doctor about that?
Tough to capture what the chaos of war is really like in a movie studio,I think this comes close.
Not much fun when the enemy can hurt you, Tojo...
This is a very hard, but necessary video to watch. War is hell, on both sides.
The aeroplane sealed the fate of warships..
The AA guns on Japanese ships were not radar directed like on American ships
The Japanese were losing so many planes and pilots they had to start the kamikaze attacks
The aircraft carriers
@@FP194 doesnt matter whether it was 25mm or 40mm, doesn't matter if it was radar directed or had a manual spotter, doesnt matter if the AA guns had to be reloaded manual or had automatic loaders
by the time the battleship was fully set for battle, battleships themselves were useless mainly towards planes and dive bombers. Tha yamato was simply the final nail in the coffin to the age of battleships
@@Leonardo-zt3kf Yet the US kept using them until the early 90's 😂
@@youtubesnamingpolicysucks thats because they loaded them badboys with tomahawk missiles
Thumbs up I gave for my two uncles and my dad’s cousin. Thanks
Aside from the music being a little too heroic in the first two minutes, this is a legitimately well put together action scene.
Japanese actors certainly know how to yell their lines.
@@acc4586 Indeed they do.
yeah I want to hear the final fantasy victory fanfare going off as the AA batteries are blowing up. That's the sound you hear when the good guys beat the bad guys, right?
@@albdamned577 I've never played final fantasy so I'll have to take your word for it.
@@albdamned577 wtf?
This was GUT WRENCHING to watch, My salute to these men, and honor upon them forever......sincerely an American
Now the Yamato suffers like the Oklahoma and Arizona battleship.
They started it, we finished it.
Or Prince of Wales...
@@Surfer041mexico sunk 4 battleships of usa with one torpedo
It’s more like the Bismarck, these sailors had it coming.
I bet the sailors on the Arizona and Oklahoma would disagree with that statement. The US Army and Navy personnel were murdered on a Sunday afternoon on a day that peace still held between the US and Japan. Japan did not declare war on the US until 1.5 hours AFTER their murder and the destruction of their ships and planes.
The men on the Yamato were at war and prepared to defend their ship and themselves.
The men and women in Pearl Harbor were at peace and not prepared for the carnage of Dec 7 1941. They had no chance to fight back against the men that murdered them.
Love the blow molded plastic cooler on the rescue boat. 😂.
That scene is much later in time , many years later. The old man is a survivor of the Yamato. The old man was one the young Yamato crew members during the battle.
Estos japoneses se lo montan de gente heroica...... Estaban perdiendo el tiempo mientras su emperador semidios salió de rositas.