Finished my first computer build almost 1 year ago, and it's still working like a champ. Thanks to your frequent updates, I monitor my computer constantly (I bought the 14900k, I was able to get the temps in control). I would never have attempted this build comfortably without your guidance. Have an awesome holiday, and keep up the great work. BTW, you are the only UA-cam creator that I subscribe to, and I subscribe to hundreds, who I have the notifications turned on for. My build in total with monitor and hardware was almost $6k, and I want it running top notch all the time, this channel held me do that. Thank you again!
Got myself an Arc A770 a month ago. Couldn't wait for the new ones... I'm so happy I went with Intel. Very reasonable price, 16Gb of RAM, AV1 Encode/Decode, and performance is very acceptable while gaming at FHD.
Intel needed its taste of humble pie after years of 4 cores and ++++ architectures. I truly hope they have gotten it after this year and can rebound and come back from it.
Thanks for the tip with Arc GPU's, I put an a310 into my Ryzen/GeForce system and editing my h.265 footage is now insanely fast. No more need for proxies! Thanks. :)
I actually think that Apple has the best strategy in putting CPU, GPU and neural engine on the same ARM RISC die. Not only is the performance really impressive, it comes at a tiny fraction of the power consumption (and thus heat generation) of x86 and discrete GPUs. Their M4 Mac mini is, IMHO, a warning shot across the bows of the industry, because that little box only takes 40W and yet has some of the best single thread performance available. Yes, the "Apple tax" of soldered RAM and SSDs is ridiculous, but imagine if somebody - Intel, AMD, whoever - started kicking out M4-like low wattage ARM chips that meant you could get rid of all the expensive high-power PSUs, heatsinks and cooling fans, dramatically lower running costs AND put a whole system in your hands for under $1,000. That company could destroy nVidia's business model overnight.
@xviii5780 it is wayyyyy too expensive in UK also Partner card price backorder with normal price but no promising whipping date Intel limited edition disappeared in short time or pay double and buy from eBay 🙈 Btw I will suggest avoid sparkle and their card still have fan rpm flexing issue , never stay at the fix /or smooth rpm curve with all different setting , it is a bit annoying
As an enthousiast consumer, the switch in leadership has me worried. The benefits of their products are clear, but generally haven't been relevant for me and my peers. I hope they've done their homework to make the b580 not just a great card for gamers, but for productivity as well.
I was waiting to hear the productivity specs for the B580 before upgrading (the main use case is for Blender / 3D rendering). I am guessing their higher model cards will be closer to what I need, but I will likely be waiting for their next generation. I went with Nvidia for now, but I'm looking forward to see future developments. Anyhow, thank you for doing what you do. It really helped me build my machine this year.
Amazing video, bringing attention to minor details and politics. Having a huge affect in the gpu market. Upgrading my gtx 970 to the b580 Looking into getting into video editing this coming year 🫡. You have really opened up my mind with your videos.
The correlation of INTEL CPU and GPU is coming. At the moment it is via PCIe 4.0 and REBAR. Higher tier Battlemage will take advantage of PCIe 5.0 direct access. If you check the comparisons INTEL GPU is almost half the Wattage when pushed yet keeping the FPS and better quality picture. This is because INTEL splits the tasks with CPU not just feeding the GPU. This is why Nvidia is looking to have their own CPU and have their similar architecture. Dual silicon architecture where you have all good frames and less Wattage. It solves lot of problems and cost and sells two instead of one. INTEL is looking to have all INTEL system cheaper for new builds. It's a game changer missing the higher tier INTEL ARC GPU.
Correct the info on AMD… AMD was originally NOT a GPU manufacturer. They were a second-source company for the X86 CPUs from Intel. When there was a fallout between Intel-AMD (Pentium/Athlon days), there was a company in Canada called ATI Technologies (think of their “All-In-Wonder” video card series). AMD was falling behind Intel in CPU sales by a large margin, so AMD bought ATI Technologies and sucked up their video card business. Back in the day NVIDIA, ATI TECH, and Matrox were the big video card companies. AMD’s (ATI Tech) video card business kept AMD afloat until the release of the RYZEN CPU family. So no, AMD was not originally in the video card business. BUT - they have vastly improved the foundational video tech they acquired with their merger with ATI Technologies.
Needed a GPU for an old PC. Picked up an A770 and some new ram. Although i wasn't impressed with the gaming aspect, My Video editor friend absolutely loves it as much as his 14900k/7900xtx editing machine. I mean gen4 speeds are not the best but his ability to edit, scrub and playback without rendering scenes he said is a bigger deal than up and down speed.
Seriously guys, if you're fed up with nVidia asking more for a GPU than you spent on your last car, give Intel ARC some love. You might not get the best GPU this year, but it could mean your next 5 upgrades will come at a fraction of the price that nVidia is going to hold you hostage to.
Hey love the video and the information you put in it, my question is, can you use two GPUS in a system, having one ARC to use the media encoders and decoders in it? purely to render real time h265 content?
Intel needs to stop trying to go head-to-head with Nvidia and instead shake things up for everyone. Here's the idea: drop a GPU with 48GB of VRAM, get as close as possible to Nvidia's flagship performance, and sell it for $1,000. It doesn’t need to be the fastest-just reliable, with a solid driver library comparable to Nvidia’s. People just want something that handles inference, fine-tuning, and full ADAM training without breaking the bank. Forget about competing in gaming. For the next two generations, Intel should go all-in on VRAM and decent performance, forcing Nvidia to rethink its VRAM-to-performance ratio. That would get startups, gamers, and AI developers to consider Intel over Nvidia. Let’s face it: AI developers are still using Pascal-era GPUs just to save money and get the VRAM they need. Intel doesn’t have to be the best-it just needs to offer a 48GB+ VRAM GPU with performance that’s one or two generations behind Nvidia’s latest. Everyone knows Nvidia isn’t prioritizing gaming anymore anyway so force them to eat away at their professional brand by disrupting their vram scam.
If you figure the light out B580 let me know, it is white not blue so there is your first disappointment and it is bright, other than that card seems to perform well
I recommend taking a look at the posts by Peter Zeihan and his geopolitical analysis. He gives some insight on how the risks of chip manufacturing is happening and where it can go.
Ouch, the only way to make a company business succeed is, that they have sales. So, it's a hard one. But maybe, helping them is the way to go. How, making complot, and I don't know if that is possible, just an idea. UA-camrs can work as a team, how? Just adquiring them and giving away, some for content creators and some for gamers, as an entry level minimum requeriment card, and throw to the garbage any card, below this specs. As always, everyone can decide how many, and how much are willing to spend. It's a coin, maybe we can all win or maybe you will lose, besides that, you're winning for the idea, and also, the only way to make the prices down, is to play with demand. Maybe this card can work, like in other video you have, when paring 3 Nvidia 4090 cards. What could happen if you want to pair this card as a secondary card? Just for the codes etc. Yes is a bit pricey for that and possibly not worth it, I don't have it, but I would try it. Just as an idea. We people buy things for Ray tracing, upscalling and every moniker they throw at any card and pay the premium for that, even when they are not the best to cost benefit and then pay the triple that this card does. Just thinking. I appreciate your time and videos
Please don't give up. By PS6 time you can at least try and target 1440p120fps high + high rt or high pt locked 24gb card. 350-400$. Also triple encoders decoders 😊
If they truly wanted to compete in gpu market, they'd bring 16gb on the new, 580 for a low price. They do not want to compete, Amd and Intel want to keep in the shadows of their mother, Nvidia.
If intel disappears, amd will become for CPUs what nvidia has become for GPUs; No competition? Dont care, sell at high prices. I also bought an Intel card for my backup pc, sadly I had to return it: My motherboard seems to be to old for it. Even with a Bios update I couldnt get any picture or something out of it. But I totally would for my next pc buy one!
Don't worry to much about Taiwan. If TMSC would be in Chinese hands we still have ASML that is producing the machines wich those companies use. ASML is in the Netherlands as a headquater. So we will be able to provide the machines used in the world. And Intel and other companies are building plats in Germany and the USA.
Oh, I had to check that I didn't press next video. I totally agree with you. I was going to go for one if the a series, then I heard about the b series....... Just do the review 😅😅😅
Finished my first computer build almost 1 year ago, and it's still working like a champ. Thanks to your frequent updates, I monitor my computer constantly (I bought the 14900k, I was able to get the temps in control). I would never have attempted this build comfortably without your guidance. Have an awesome holiday, and keep up the great work. BTW, you are the only UA-cam creator that I subscribe to, and I subscribe to hundreds, who I have the notifications turned on for. My build in total with monitor and hardware was almost $6k, and I want it running top notch all the time, this channel held me do that. Thank you again!
Honestly so great to read comments like this! Merry Christmas #
You're not going to go wrong following Lauri's advice. One of the most knowledgable creators for creators on the net.
I agree. Intel, don't give up. Pull yourselves together.
I bought an ARC A380 Low profile for the hardware codec support and I was not disappointed in my purchase.
It is one of the best encoder/decoder card for that price.
I should have purchased one when it was at $130 US. I can't find any under $170 US now. 😥
Best rn@@kazuviking
😉👍 Offering hardware at much more popular prices would go a long way in helping them rebuild a positive reputation among enthusiasts.
Got myself an Arc A770 a month ago. Couldn't wait for the new ones...
I'm so happy I went with Intel.
Very reasonable price, 16Gb of RAM, AV1 Encode/Decode, and performance is very acceptable while gaming at FHD.
Brilliant. Absolutely spot on Lauri. Well done.
...and a Happy Christmas to you and yours my friend.
Merry Christmas Lauri.
You or someone on your team is an elite video-editor. Just another great video, entertaining yet informative. Thanks, and Happy Holidays.
If you want healthy competition in the PC market and chip manufacturing market, you would definitely want Intel to survive.
Waiting for the test results... 👀
Where is the review of intel arc b580?
Ya where's the review
Coming in the new year, have to retest some cards :)
@@theTechNotice take your time bro, we waiting
I am all for the trifecta of CPU GPU companies....
Intel needed its taste of humble pie after years of 4 cores and ++++ architectures. I truly hope they have gotten it after this year and can rebound and come back from it.
You hit the nail on the head in just 2 sentences. I agree 1000%
Thanks for the tip with Arc GPU's, I put an a310 into my Ryzen/GeForce system and editing my h.265 footage is now insanely fast. No more need for proxies! Thanks. :)
The fingerprint magnet does not matter unless you hold it while gaming, lol. Put it in, wipe it off, and you're done.
I actually think that Apple has the best strategy in putting CPU, GPU and neural engine on the same ARM RISC die. Not only is the performance really impressive, it comes at a tiny fraction of the power consumption (and thus heat generation) of x86 and discrete GPUs. Their M4 Mac mini is, IMHO, a warning shot across the bows of the industry, because that little box only takes 40W and yet has some of the best single thread performance available. Yes, the "Apple tax" of soldered RAM and SSDs is ridiculous, but imagine if somebody - Intel, AMD, whoever - started kicking out M4-like low wattage ARM chips that meant you could get rid of all the expensive high-power PSUs, heatsinks and cooling fans, dramatically lower running costs AND put a whole system in your hands for under $1,000. That company could destroy nVidia's business model overnight.
Because people rather spend extra 250 more to have a proart title printed on their equipment but not give Intel a damn chance 😂
I'd buy one if there was a way to buy it in Poland for close to msrp
@xviii5780 it is wayyyyy too expensive in UK also
Partner card price backorder with normal price but no promising whipping date
Intel limited edition disappeared in short time or pay double and buy from eBay 🙈
Btw I will suggest avoid sparkle and their card still have fan rpm flexing issue , never stay at the fix /or smooth rpm curve with all different setting , it is a bit annoying
I look forward to seeing what Intel has to offer for creators.
As an enthousiast consumer, the switch in leadership has me worried.
The benefits of their products are clear, but generally haven't been relevant for me and my peers. I hope they've done their homework to make the b580 not just a great card for gamers, but for productivity as well.
true and I wish you a lot of Health and happy new Year 2025
Reviews are already out for the battlemage, it's excellent performance for the price on par with a RTX 4060 but more than half the price.
This is the best explanation of business, politics and market I have seen regarding this topic.
Great video and as somebody interested in economics, I really appreciate you taking the geopolitics and future markets into account. I agree 100%.
Cant wait for B580 creative reviews
Intel did have dedicated GPU's in 2000's based on their integrated apu.
Well said!
Hope 18a goes well fingers crossed
why i cant find anything about deep link with this new gpu series? i would like to see some benefits with intel gpu and cpu combo :)
I was waiting to hear the productivity specs for the B580 before upgrading (the main use case is for Blender / 3D rendering).
I am guessing their higher model cards will be closer to what I need, but I will likely be waiting for their next generation.
I went with Nvidia for now, but I'm looking forward to see future developments.
Anyhow, thank you for doing what you do. It really helped me build my machine this year.
the thing that shoots intel in the foot is resizable bar, example, i have a thinkstation workstation, lenovo isnt doing re-bar
You cannot serve two Masters.
Really good informative video of the importance of Intel's place in the market and how to behave among outlets
I will be going downtempo with an intel build in 25. Electricity doesn’t grow on trees…. But Matt black…. Just makes me want a white one. 🤷🏼♂️
Amazing video, bringing attention to minor details and politics. Having a huge affect in the gpu market.
Upgrading my gtx 970 to the b580
Looking into getting into video editing this coming year 🫡.
You have really opened up my mind with your videos.
The correlation of INTEL CPU and GPU is coming. At the moment it is via PCIe 4.0 and REBAR. Higher tier Battlemage will take advantage of PCIe 5.0 direct access. If you check the comparisons INTEL GPU is almost half the Wattage when pushed yet keeping the FPS and better quality picture. This is because INTEL splits the tasks with CPU not just feeding the GPU. This is why Nvidia is looking to have their own CPU and have their similar architecture. Dual silicon architecture where you have all good frames and less Wattage. It solves lot of problems and cost and sells two instead of one. INTEL is looking to have all INTEL system cheaper for new builds. It's a game changer missing the higher tier INTEL ARC GPU.
One of the best computer guys on UA-cam thank you for your work 👍🏾👍🏾❤️
Correct the info on AMD… AMD was originally NOT a GPU manufacturer. They were a second-source company for the X86 CPUs from Intel. When there was a fallout between Intel-AMD (Pentium/Athlon days), there was a company in Canada called ATI Technologies (think of their “All-In-Wonder” video card series). AMD was falling behind Intel in CPU sales by a large margin, so AMD bought ATI Technologies and sucked up their video card business. Back in the day NVIDIA, ATI TECH, and Matrox were the big video card companies. AMD’s (ATI Tech) video card business kept AMD afloat until the release of the RYZEN CPU family. So no, AMD was not originally in the video card business. BUT - they have vastly improved the foundational video tech they acquired with their merger with ATI Technologies.
Loving the Spidey 3 references! 🕷️🕺 Lol
These companies need to practice INNOVATION, not iteration!
Needed a GPU for an old PC. Picked up an A770 and some new ram. Although i wasn't impressed with the gaming aspect, My Video editor friend absolutely loves it as much as his 14900k/7900xtx editing machine. I mean gen4 speeds are not the best but his ability to edit, scrub and playback without rendering scenes he said is a bigger deal than up and down speed.
Seriously guys, if you're fed up with nVidia asking more for a GPU than you spent on your last car, give Intel ARC some love. You might not get the best GPU this year, but it could mean your next 5 upgrades will come at a fraction of the price that nVidia is going to hold you hostage to.
Hey love the video and the information you put in it, my question is, can you use two GPUS in a system, having one ARC to use the media encoders and decoders in it? purely to render real time h265 content?
Merry christmas people.
Intel has taken many wrong turns this GPU is bomb battle mage b580 it's a christmas surprise.
Intel needs to stop trying to go head-to-head with Nvidia and instead shake things up for everyone. Here's the idea: drop a GPU with 48GB of VRAM, get as close as possible to Nvidia's flagship performance, and sell it for $1,000. It doesn’t need to be the fastest-just reliable, with a solid driver library comparable to Nvidia’s. People just want something that handles inference, fine-tuning, and full ADAM training without breaking the bank.
Forget about competing in gaming. For the next two generations, Intel should go all-in on VRAM and decent performance, forcing Nvidia to rethink its VRAM-to-performance ratio. That would get startups, gamers, and AI developers to consider Intel over Nvidia. Let’s face it: AI developers are still using Pascal-era GPUs just to save money and get the VRAM they need. Intel doesn’t have to be the best-it just needs to offer a 48GB+ VRAM GPU with performance that’s one or two generations behind Nvidia’s latest. Everyone knows Nvidia isn’t prioritizing gaming anymore anyway so force them to eat away at their professional brand by disrupting their vram scam.
If you figure the light out B580 let me know, it is white not blue so there is your first disappointment and it is bright, other than that card seems to perform well
Yep, it's white and bright!
TSMC is building a huge fab plant in USA.
When mcdonald's comes out with something really popular, they don't run out when you go there
Unless it's ice-cream....?
I recommend taking a look at the posts by Peter Zeihan and his geopolitical analysis. He gives some insight on how the risks of chip manufacturing is happening and where it can go.
finally we have been waiting bro😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Ouch, the only way to make a company business succeed is, that they have sales. So, it's a hard one. But maybe, helping them is the way to go. How, making complot, and I don't know if that is possible, just an idea. UA-camrs can work as a team, how? Just adquiring them and giving away, some for content creators and some for gamers, as an entry level minimum requeriment card, and throw to the garbage any card, below this specs. As always, everyone can decide how many, and how much are willing to spend. It's a coin, maybe we can all win or maybe you will lose, besides that, you're winning for the idea, and also, the only way to make the prices down, is to play with demand. Maybe this card can work, like in other video you have, when paring 3 Nvidia 4090 cards. What could happen if you want to pair this card as a secondary card? Just for the codes etc. Yes is a bit pricey for that and possibly not worth it, I don't have it, but I would try it. Just as an idea. We people buy things for Ray tracing, upscalling and every moniker they throw at any card and pay the premium for that, even when they are not the best to cost benefit and then pay the triple that this card does. Just thinking. I appreciate your time and videos
Please don't give up. By PS6 time you can at least try and target 1440p120fps high + high rt or high pt locked 24gb card. 350-400$. Also triple encoders decoders 😊
If they truly wanted to compete in gpu market, they'd bring 16gb on the new, 580 for a low price. They do not want to compete, Amd and Intel want to keep in the shadows of their mother, Nvidia.
I'm happy the stock dropped.... Iykyk
I'm getting that. ❤
Bro, you look like Tobey!
If intel disappears, amd will become for CPUs what nvidia has become for GPUs;
No competition? Dont care, sell at high prices.
I also bought an Intel card for my backup pc, sadly I had to return it:
My motherboard seems to be to old for it. Even with a Bios update I couldnt get any picture or something out of it.
But I totally would for my next pc buy one!
Cerently on an rtx 4070 ti super, I want my next gpu to be intel
Будто-бы смотрел раньше, такое странное чувство...
Don't worry to much about Taiwan. If TMSC would be in Chinese hands we still have ASML that is producing the machines wich those companies use. ASML is in the Netherlands as a headquater. So we will be able to provide the machines used in the world. And Intel and other companies are building plats in Germany and the USA.
Oh, I had to check that I didn't press next video. I totally agree with you. I was going to go for one if the a series, then I heard about the b series....... Just do the review 😅😅😅
06:07 What ? Zio Card ? No ! I am out (to AMD) !
I need that desk chair, anyone know what brand that is? Update: I read the description lol
😊
you're too kind saying that intel made a smart move, we all know it was the only logical move they have after all the issues and dramas
I am waiting for a 4070 competitor from Intel with 16/24 gb options. If they do, bye bye NVIDIA.
Keep waiting. It's going to be integrated only for at least the next two generations
only nvidia can buy intel , then game over for ryzen . radeon is allready kaput 2% market share
Bro, this is NOT Intel's first DGPU. Don't be dumb.
Don't think I said it was...
tsmc is building a fab in az usa
74th !
I dont support criminals.
Lol 😆 no give up.....
Give up