I think most of us is yelling YEEEEEESSSSSS!!! I can’t stand watching more of their toxic relationship and liz going “I have never been so happy as i am now, WAAAAAAAHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭”!!!!!!!
Well a very basic rule to dating should be to stay away from anyone who’s such a terrible parent that their daughter doesn’t even speak to them. I don’t feel sorry for Liz cuz she has no regard for her partner’s kid so she’s just as lowlife as lil Ed.
@@WhateverArtist I approve that but tbh wholesome as Ned seemed, anyone who ever believed the man who made a carrier out of his wife, might not know how real relationships work 🤣
This is the definition of gaslighting. He knows she’s about to dump him so he tries to beat her to the punch and make her believe it was his idea so that she then fights for the relationship and says no please take me back. He is a disgusting human being.
Right!! The way he threw all the blame on her, literally making her forget the whole reason she ran off on him in the first place. It's scary how manipulative people like Big Ed can be.
ORRR, big ed can see the signs because he has experience in life, way more than liz, and he saw that she was NOT ready for marriage. He knows they shouldn't get married. If they really care for each other they need to not focus on labeling themselves so much and just focus on having a good time together. Ed may want to marry her but if he recognizes that they shouldn't be married then id say that's kinda respectable. He is NOT gaslighting her. People throw that term around like a hot potato. Ed shared an insecurity with her that he's afraid of being cheated on and she wanted to run away instead of calmly talk about it. Gaslighting would be him blatantly telling her that she is unlovable and only *he* will marry her. He did not do that. He tried to break it off. Please educate yourself on what gaslighting actually is. In the moment and ESPECIALLY on camera you don't know how to "perfectly" respond to certain emotional moments in life- hindsight is 20/20
@@cheechel96 what you said isn’t gaslighting either. Gas lighting it doing something then turning around to make the other person feel crazy by saying you didn’t do that thing. So when he said “I don’t want to marry you until…” and then immediately turned around and was like “YOURE not ready to get married.” Is actually a form of gas lighting. He was hoping that she would believe she is actually the one who in fact isn’t ready even tho he said he wasn’t first.
It is possible, from the way Liz talked about her mom in the past, that the mom is also a narcissist and likes her to behave a certain way, and she does when she's with Ed. It's common of kids from narcissistic parents to go into narcissistic romantic relationships.
No mommy, he has gaslighted and groomed her into a sad and crying shadow of the happy, strong and lively liz we ‘met’ in the restaurant before ed came in like a wreckingball on legs and invited her on a date which turned into a relationship in HELL
All I know is that when Liz first appeared on the show, she seemed like a happy person for the most part… ever since Liz got involved with Big Ed, she’s either uncomfortable, crying, or constantly on the verge of crying .
She obviously wasn't running from Ed, we all know he can't run after her. She's running from production. They're ruthless and do everything they can to egg on the drama. The way she turned around is probably because she had been telling them to leave her alone. Even when they offered her a ride it was to get her back to Ed, not to help her
Liz should have pulled the 'the last time you married someone, you cheated on her when she was pregnant' card during that fight. That would have been kill-shot to Ed's ego. You know he would have lost it at that. "Liz, you're just mean." lol
I know what it's like to be in abusive relationships with extremely toxic men like Big Ed and the predator spins the victim to make it like they can't live without them. I think that is where Liz is at and it's heartbreaking and I feel for her so much. I hope Liz gets out of this abusive toxic mess someday and frees herself from the chains of Big Ed.
Something that isn't mentioned nearly enough is that Liz has a child. She is raising a child in this absolute mess. If he is kicking her out constantly then there's a high possibility he is also uprooting her daughter every time they fight or break up. This cannot be a healthy situation for this little girl, being raised by two oversized teenagers. Liz needs to get away from Ed and focus on her daughter and herself.
100%! Ed persuaded Liz to move in before she was ready, and now he can threaten to rip away her daughter's stability whenever he wants to control her. I feel so bad for that little girl.
What?!?! She has a daughter!?!?! I didn't know that wth!?!??
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I believe the daughter doesn't live with her but with the father. Which is the best way because even if it's scripted or they are truly this trashy, the daughter should be as far away from this dumpster fire of a reality show as possible.
@ If she is living with the father, that says A LOT. Fathers very rarely get primary custody of children. Courts are extremely biased. The mother either has to be dangerously unfit or willingly forfeit the right to be the primary caregiver. Ed's vocally opposed to children. Choosing a public toxic relationship with him over her daughter will cause long-term damage. Poor kid. I hope she's too young to be fully aware of what's going on.
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@@CreatEr1n well I am not sure about US laws but I think if the mother is doing shit like this on TV, it effects where the child is placed (at least I hope so). Or Liz just dropped her off at her father so she won't be a part of the tv show. Whatever is the case, I am positive that poor child is gonna have some kind of trauma from this :s clearly Liz's whole family history is a mess, she never had a mother figure so she can't really be one for her own daughter.
There's a video by ArthurTV where he talks about the "fight" between Liz and her friend. The friend's girlfriend actually messages him with the full story. They were leaving, and Liz was hugging them goodbye when the partners shared some inside joke that made Liz mad. Liz told them to leave (even tho they were already leaving). The girlfriend said Ed and Liz kept calling them and trying to stir up more drama, but she wouldn't play into it. So from the way she told it, I'm thinking production probably did get the "fight" on film, but they wouldn't sign releases because they didn't want to be used as some plot device. And the "fight" wasn't as juicy as the captions made it sound anyway.
I thought it was a reddit post but I watch a few different UA-camrs talk about them. But wasn't it aruther who looked up Ed's condition and it's life expectancy which might be why he is trying to marry so quick?
Yes. Thank you. I was wondering if they knew about it. Your Wet Sock also mentioned it on his video, someone had linked him the comment on Arthur’s video.
@@Black.Spades didn't it* say the friend had just asked if Liz was okay cause she looked like she was going to cry and then the inside joke was said. And they were already headed out the door when security told them they needed to leave. Either way this seemed very much a set up like the "shooting" in last season with ed. *Edit for (it)
"The dedication should be there from the beginning." THANK YOU KEN!! I love how the guard/security is following her as she runs, so she's ranting to him. He's a great listener. XD I really hope that Liz puts her daughter as a priority from now on. She doesn't need some man to make her happy. She has a little bundle of joy, already!
It's weird how on the show it's claimed multiple times that Ed has been single for an eternity. Are they trying to pretend the mistreatment of Rose never happened?
@@BeccasaurousRex270 Naw even when married, don't forget he cheated on the first wife and mother of his child. He acts like she hurt him but he's been a piece of shit his whole life.
the weird thing about Ed is he works so hard to find someone and as soon as he finds some one, he immediately takes her for granted and acts like he is SOOO much better than her. it's an odd combination of ideas to exist in one head.
I think it’s a combination of him needing to be in control of the situation and deep insecurities. He needs to make the other person feel like he’s the best thing since sliced bread and that they’ll be sooo lost without him, and a lot of times this is achieved by acting as though you’re better than everyone while simultaneously putting down and belittling the other person. You can definitely see it in full effect during this episode
@@AWildJirachi it's been obvious since he first showed up. he acted like he was so in love with Rose and then immediately went after her hygiene and wanted to test her for STD in an insulting manner. then acted heartbroken when she left him like he didn't just treat her like she was sus and he was not sure he cared about her or that she was safe or sincere. then he repeated the pattern with Liz, he was so nervous that she might not go out with him, was rushing to kiss her like he was in high school again, and once she gave in and was his gf, he acted like she was hot garbage, but when she left, he acted like he was lost without her. he can act like a woman is an angel from above and a hot mess at the same time. that is just insane. if they are that much of a mess , leave them alone; if they are that great, put up with the small stuff. but both cannot be true at the same time! just bonkers! 🤪 it's like he is in love with the idea of being in love , but the reality that person you are in love is another human with free will and ideas is too much for him!
@@theoverunderthinker My narc ex was exactly like that. He would name me a "Goddess" one day and then call me "Immature child" the next. Utterly exhausting to deal with.
I’m just so glad to be sharing this moment with y’all. I know it’s a one sided conversation and we all aren’t together. But we are in a sense that this is a comfortable place for a lot of us. I hope everyone is having a good day 🤘🏼
The "Argument" with Liz's friend was discussed by the friend's girlfriend, I think, on Twitter. Ed made it out to be something it wasn't, and totally tried to gaslight Liz here.
As Ken and Dane appropriately pointed out, Liz must have gone through hell to settle down and low for Ed. Girl, you’re not even 30 yet, enjoy yourself and a good person will come along (if you want to ofc, many people are happily single). But please don’t do this to yourself!
Apparently the girlfriend of the lesbian who argued with Liz came forward and said that they were 'kicked out' over them making an inside joke with Liz that Liz then go angry with them about. That was the whole deal. The lesbian who touched her arm wasn't trying to come onto her or anything, they were just friends she was there with her own girlfriend. Also the producers or whatever blew up the two girlfriends' phones trying to get more drama from them and they had to ghost them to make them stop.
Big Ed has issues with women dating women, remember he did the same thing to Rose at the tell all “you’ve been with a woman” and he showed rose’s Instagram pic, dude is a loser and I think he’s got some issues he needs to fix as far as him being threatened by women dating women, after him. He also gave Rose a hard time bc she didn’t want to tell him about her exes and past, he won’t marry Liz without knowing her past… like Ed you cheated on your wife while she was pregnant, you have no clue what marriage is and you cannot judge others pasts when yours is shameful.
Yeah I don't understand that. He has no integrity whatsoever yet he likes to pass judgment on others past relationships. He's controlling and verbally abusive. I'm sure he was probably way worse to Rose, she just didn't have the opportunity to get a recording of him. And for liz to get back together with him and consider marriage with a person like this after what she DID record, makes me think that she has no connecting brain cells.
I totally forgot he said the same thing to Rose! Yeesh! With him constantly asking about her past and his fear of her cheating, I wonder how many times he thinks of cheating on her. People often say a cheater accuses their partner of it, so I wonder if same goes for someone who often thinks about other people in that manner.
Liz could have had a freak accident and tragically pass away and Ed would look at the coroner and go "So, how long have you been dating them?" to her corpse.
First of all he would say “Liz, you have ruined EVERYTHING for me, i can’t believe you get runned over by a car before our toxic relationship had even started for real, i had such big plans for me to take good care of you (gaslight you) and spoil you (emphasis on ‘spoil’) 🤨”! 🙈
@@trinejensen1707 yeah but he would also follow it up with "was the person who ran you over the lesbian who touched your Arm at the party?" This guy is trash..smh..
"I can't live without her" "Are you sure about that?!" Man's got same dad vibes as my dad and my own vibes towards my daughter and younger people than myself 🤣 Also, what grandma said about "are you willing to take care of him when he can't take care of himself?", I felt that. I've said this to so many people lol, that true love is gross. True love is not when things are fine, true love is tested when your SO craps themselves and you have to wipe their butt because they can't. Or when you have a baby and you have to deal with all the gross things of babies.
The girlfriend of Liz's lesbian friend made a statement to explain what happened since it wasn't filmed: Y'all I CAN NOT with how this was portrayed. So my gf is the girl in question here. We were getting ready to leave so my gf was hugging Liz goodbye and Liz looked like she was going to cry so my gf looks at her like "hey are you good? Do you need to talk?" And had her hand on her arm. Then I walked up and made an inside joke we have had within our friend group and Liz LOST IT. She started yelling at me and my gf and I were like Liz it's a joke it's a joke. So we started to go back to our group to get our stuff because, again, we were already leaving and then she "kicked us out" bitch please we were already leaving. They kept calling my gf all night and Ed was harassing her trying to accuse them of having a relationship and my gf was like "I'm not here to be used for whatever plot or narrative you think is here". It was really exausting and my girlfriend was NEVER, EVER, attracted to Liz. Period.
Man, I felt this. That sucks but it makes way more sense as they refused to show the footage and as soon as they found out they are lesbians. They said "Gold!!"
nobody asked to hear my personal business. but just want to say something in response to Ken saying that he can't believe this could be a real relationship. While i can't say anything in regards to their relationship being real or not, I can promise you this exact premise of a relationship is very much a reality out there. It was mine pretty much to the T for 4 years. We had fights exactly as ridiculous as this a million times. I'd unload everything like she did, he'd reply with threats and insults. Yet I was the one begging him to stay in the aftermath. If she's truly in the situation this show portrays, then i'll just say that she's smart and aware of every single thing he does and how wrong it is and how much he hurts her. Yet she has such little self worth that she will buy into his gaslighting, and he knows it. Anytime it all finally pours out of her, he'll threaten to leave instead of apologize. while you imagine she'd just say good, go then, she'll be the one that ends up begging for him to stay and apologizing. People used to tell me I had sad eyes, and that i looked frightened and sad in general even when I felt my happiest. I didn't understand that and never did until I started watching your commentary on this show. You always comment about how sad liz looks all the time. I recognize what she's carrying behind her eyes. The reason I felt like commenting about this is because today I was going to meet back up with him for the first time in years. This feels like a reminder of everything I'm denying by allowing him the chance to come around me after staying away for so many years. You surely didn't imagine that uploading a reaction video to a goofy TLC show would potentially change someones course in life, but hey lol, it appears that's exactly what happened today lol. Thank you!
i'm glad you commented :) I couldn't agree more. Forgive me but I've ended up getting lost venting here about my thoughts on this, & I'm just gonna post it instead of worrying about how I let myself get lost in the convo haha. putting this at the start to make it clear I wasn't trying to somehow inform you of anything with this. I know you dont need to have any of this explained to you.. im just venting in the open. Don't have people around that I'm comfortable discussing this with. BUt yeah, this behavior is all so familiar to me. I've found it super funny, but confusing, to see ken & buff persist it MUST be fake. I get you'd be suspicious cause it's TLC for christ sake, but the fact that their behavior is the reason they think it's fake is what left me like "huh? are they saying it's poorly acted or something?" cause I couldn't understand it's something most people havent dealt with. Makes sense though that people would usually cut those out of their lives who are capable of this looonnngg before it could evvvveeerr get this way. I guess that's the entire point of grooming, love bombing, && gaslighting being key parts of the abusers cycle. Like they clearly seek out partners who are vulnerable enough to ignore red flags that most people wont ever put up with, & then begin a cycle thats dependent on taking advantage of that vulnerability & lack of self love. I guess that means that even the love they give you is abusive. Cause when you understand the bigger picture, even the love is purposeful && tactical & to get something in return. Also its used as a weapon, so you cling to them even when the cycle moves on to steps that reveal more who they really are. & right when you can't possibly take it anymore, they'll switch back & love bomb you again, reaffirming the persons doubts about leaving and showing them it was worth enduring the fight because of all these good moments. and then it repeats. It's been 2 years for me since I left and I feel like i have years of work ahead of me before I'll even be able to simply date again. and i'm someone who's extremely social and romantic and would adore a partner. so it's not like it's normal for me to spend countless years without a partner. I just can't do it. I would be a horrible partner right now because of how messed up i am from it. But i'm trying not to give up on myself. I want to believe I can find myself again and that I'm not lost forever now.
@@saccharinespoon Thank you for what you shared. I wish you all, and myself, healing. Narcissists destroys and changes us.. but grab yourself once more, and hold your own hand as you slowly pull yourself from the dark...
I agree 1000% with you both. As a 34-year old I grew up in the early 2000s with the thoughts of oh "if you don't get married now, it's too late." lol The "spinster" mindset was still alive and well in the early 2000s, (2022 as I am writing this comment,) so it was put in the heads of a lot of people that if you aren't "with someone, then you will be alone forever!!!" lol
So true, I’m 37 and have had two abusive marriages, first time I’ve been single for longer than a few months and it’s hard to change that mind set of “ill be single forever, unless I get married” but I’ve been solo since the end of 2020 and am working on those inner thoughts.
You grew up in the 90s tho? 34, you'd be born in 1988 so by time it hits 2000 you'd already be 12, almost a teenager....... you might have started to date in the 2000s but I don't think you can really say you grew up in the 2000s if your childhood was in the 90s.
@@megorex630 just remember love, being single isn't this horrible thing everyone tries to make it sound like take the time to learn about yourself fully love yourself take the time to realize what you're really worth raise your standards and stay single till those standards are met because you DO NOT EVER DESERVE TO BE ABUSED!!
@@onixpanda13 "As a 34-year old I grew up in the early 2000s with the thoughts of oh "if you don't get married now, it's too late." Now do you really think the op meant getting married at 10? Or are you just itching to be mean to somebody about anything?
I'm 43 and I don't understand why some think that marriage is the best thing to do! I'm stereotyped because of my age and I've got 2 cats! I have a good laugh when I tell these busybodies who think they know how I should live to f off! Their faces make me smile!!
I was in a relationship with someone like big Ed. Pushes you away just to tell you everything you want to hear, to pull you back in closer. Keep you insecure so they can control you. You can’t be happy without their permission. I hope liz comes to her senses and gets out for good
They are the worst. I was in a relationship with a gaslighter/love bomber for about 5 years and I damn near killed myself over it. Those people are terrible, they make you feel terrible, and they make you question everything.
If this is actually real, I really hope Liz gets out. Ed's gaslighting and emotionally manipulating Liz during that phone call gives me flashbacks to my last relationship. Liz needs to leave asap and never speak to him again.
Abusive relationships are scary AF and hard to leave. You feel like your stuck and he's whats going to help you move even though he's what's keeping you there. I feel for her. He's blaming her for everything even though it's all his fault.
Many people do unconsciously change after a wedding. When you’re married, you’re family. For many people, being family brings so many more issues than they had as independent people. Ken, you’re lucky.
That's a very good way of describing how hard someone cringes. I agree with you too, I feel the same way whenever this douchebag of a minion opens his fowl little mouth.
my GOD! this guys is a master manipulator. This ep really reminded me that Liz is a real person and I feel so sorry for her cus she thinks that Ed is all she deserves. I hope shes left him, finds herself, and then finds a actually decent guy
When I saw ArthurTV react to this I IMMEDIATELY submitted it to y’all. There are no words to describe the joy I have watching this. There’s more after the party and I can’t wait to hear you’re reactions to it! Ken, Buff, Felix and Arthur are the kings of reaction!
Checking in again on the Big Ed marathon! Still loving you guys and I can’t believe the roller coaster these people are! Saw your latest video and HAD to get the full story lmao 6 more hours of my 12 hour shift to go! 🙌🙌
I hope grandpa heard him talking to her that way I hope grandpa tagteamed grandma to support her while he told Ed what he really thinks about Ed treating Liz this way
I honestly think this is the best outcome. Ed has this all or nothing reaction to every little thing. This is why Liz has the fear that one fight with Ed will end the marriage because Ed will end it when something doesn't go his way. Treating people like toys is extremely toxic. I hate this I wish TLC would at least have an expert or counselor come in and comment to you know teach people what a relationship is.
Right. There’s a great series called Love on the Spectrum on Netflix, and it has a great relationship coach named Jodi Rodgers who appears on it a lot. The US version also has a good one named Jennifer Cooke
I dunno, this is the one time I've believed this was actually real 😂 I hear these exact types of arguments outside of my house occasionally from other houses. That actually sounds like a very angry, drunk woman who is ready to let some shit out
Taking out the probably correct idea that TLC is controlling these events to some extent, she seemed legit drunk there. Which makes me more inclined to think she wasn't acting when she said what he has been doing. Plus, if she reacts that way to his weird ass insinuation (cus I too, cannot find the logical leap there so...let's just say Big Ed logic) then it isn't the first time. Judging from his abusive, controlling and terrible behaviour that has actually been aired, it is most likely so much worse behind the tv show. If your fiance said that to every guy or girl you touched? And most likely then limited or cut off your contact with them? Yeah, hearing that bull at your engagement party would set you off. It seems random and made up to us, but it really seemed to hit a nerve in Liz. If she kept up her role while also being as drunk as she looked then she is the best actress in the world 100%. Sadly, I don't think she is. I honestly think she is truly in this awful relationship that he is probably scripting out and that TLC is clearly enabling him. I hope she gets far far away, someone slaps her mom with the reality of Ed, while grandpa and grandma call him out and tear him a new one.
Not only am I skeptical of Big Ed and Liz's relationship, but I am skeptical of anybody willing to have a relationship with Big Ed. Edit: except his mother, poor lady 😭
@Olive oh, you were really serious..... 😂😂😂.... Well... Okay, I wouldn't say she's GENUINE ... Their relationship was an obvious transaction, but she's definitely not as bad as Ed.
"I'm Danny devito mixed with George clooney" The self awareness of the first person, followed by the sheer delusion of the second... Ed is such a conundrum.
How insecure do you have to be to see your fiance fighting with someone and think "omg they are totally flirting with each other"??? The level of stupidity
Man, I’m only two weeks older than my husband, but seeing how much willpower he has and how crap my health is, I’ll probably end up incapable of taking care of myself before him. if that does happen imma tell him to just wheel me out back and put me down. I don’t want him having to change my diapers.
I think he has a perfectly good reason to be insecure. I'm taller than Ed but I'm not 6' so I'm insecure about that. Men have it worse than women when it comes to stuff like this
@@3starperfectdeer233 oh I’m so sorry that you feel you get judged on one aspect of your physical appearance. Come back when you get called out on your breasts, legs, hair, ass, nose or feet. Also I feel that even if Ed was 6’3” he would still be an emotionally immature guy. He is a narcissist that can’t take responsibility for his own actions and because of that he will never find happiness or be able to grow.
As a Lesbian with female friends. I think so far this year, I have been told that I'm trying to "turn" someone, take their future "girlfriend" away from them, or accused me of hitting on my friends. One of them, activity would make me feel bad for hugging my friends because "Maybe you shouldn't be so touchy, they might think you're into them?" Or "Have you consider, that they maybe they don't want you hug them but don't wanna be homophobic?" It hurt a lot and I actually tried to avoid physical contect because of that. Thankfully, my friends had my back. A lot of men and woman would even if that person isn't gay. However, they are more comfortable saying it when the person is gay or lesbian.
Cause women are so inferior? That's pretty 1950s. I've noticed that a lot of creepy, manipulative, abusive, men will accuse women of cheating with any other man they interact with. And when all else fails, they accuse women of being into women.
Bro I have become so invested in this story but I only want to watch these two react to it. So I can't just watch it on my own I gotta wait for their videos. I do love the healthy perspective you both have on relationships, it gives me hope for good relationships and love
Regarding the age difference - it can work. I am with a woman twice my age (I’m 32) and I have never been happier or more in love. But we have had the tough conversations about what will happen as she ages and so on. The issue with Ed is he goes after young women because he knows they often don’t have the life experience or confidence to say no to him yet. Not always the case, of course, but it’s a safer bet on his pathetic part.
When I was younger women always used to say no to me 95% of the time; I imagine they still would too if I even bothered with that stuff anymore. So unless I am way worse than Ed I doubt it is a lack of confidence to say no. There's got to be something else there like Ed's money/wealth that influences it, or the producers of this show. There's no way I am worse than the shit bag people on this show lol He goes after young women probably because that is his sexual preference. Or, like the the question posed in this video, "Does she make you feel young?"
Yeah the problem is Ed isn't looking for a life partner, someone to love and support and support him when he needs it. Nope. He wants a young woman who is easy to manipulate. I suspect Liz had a previous toxic relationship making her perfect (unfortunately) to fall into Eds trap.
@@Arokuara I think it’s also him knowing which young women to target. Or thinking he does anyway. The ones who he thinks need him financially so he can trap them. He treats marrying like it’s a prize and boasts about how much the engagement ring was and buying Liz a car. Rose was emotionally mature enough to shut him down and she was even younger than Liz. I’m sure it’s a whole slew of issues with him. For me, I just remember a bunch of older men trying to hit on me and my friends when I was in my early twenties. I’m a lesbian so they didn’t get very far, but looking back now I can clearly see what their motives were.
@@britt6217 my parents were 22 years apart and worked beautifully and had the type of relationship I have tried to have myself as an adult. I wish you and your lovely lady all the best and remember age is never a guarantee of who could go first. Fate has funny ways.
Tip: when running away from Big Edd make sure to run in a zig zag pattern so that way when he is running he has to turn his whole body, thus making him run out of breath faster
I can’t express how much I love the 90 day fiancé videos. I recently have been needing a comfort show and nothings getting me hooked, so I put on specifically 90 day fiancé with ken and Dane and it helps me sleep thank you guys immensely.
@@scarlet16moons5 it’s more so ken and Dane because they’re funny and 90 day fiancé because it’s entertaining no matter what for me. so the mix of that I can listen to as background noise and not get annoyed and watch it and still find it funny. If that makes sense.
Ed learns that he is the first to be introduced to the family and he says it makes him feel special. So in his own words that makes him "special Ed", and the way he behaves, I can believe it.
@@vivianwells2032 I meant no disrespect to anyone who needs or needed the help of special education. I was just struck by the sheer arrogance of this fellow proclaiming that he felt special because she was introducing him to her family. Happy to see that the grandfather was not taken in by his attitude and took him down a peg or two.
Ken has such a good look on relationships. Especially the whole marriage part, like yeah, if you both want to, and think it's right, get married. I get it's TLC and they gotta rush it, but in reality there's no rush. See how things play out. Marriage isn't the top thing on my mind when it comes to my relationship with my partner. And we've been together longer than other friends who've already gotten married. Everyone's different, I just always think it's better not rushing, you can't get to know someone properly in such a short space of time.
Exactly. It’s just like in their most recent commentary on The Button from The Cut, where he went on a tangent about how important it is to be friends first and foremost in your relationship, because there are a lot of people who’d rather date strangers, which is bonkers to me (and him). This dude has been married for years and has three kids for a reason
Liz: *Runs away from Big Ed.*
Big Ed: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Ken & BuffPro: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
Pretty everyone does are agreed to this!!
I think most of us is yelling YEEEEEESSSSSS!!! I can’t stand watching more of their toxic relationship and liz going “I have never been so happy as i am now, WAAAAAAAHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭”!!!!!!!
The way Ed immediately says "you ruined the night..." Really shows that he cares more about what others think instead of Liz. He's such a prick.
I prefer to call him another word, and it also ends with ‘ick’ 😬😎
@@trinejensen1707 a frick?
@@trinejensen1707 prick means dick, just sounds like a smaller and thinner dick, which would be about right for Tiny Ed!
@@trinejensen1707 A chick?
@@georgefriderichandel8417 d-
I have such huge respect for Ken and his healthy perception of relationships. Mary and him give me hope
Well a very basic rule to dating should be to stay away from anyone who’s such a terrible parent that their daughter doesn’t even speak to them. I don’t feel sorry for Liz cuz she has no regard for her partner’s kid so she’s just as lowlife as lil Ed.
Their children will be the chosen ones... the only well adjusted people in the world 🤣
Careful. People used to say the same thing about Ned from the Try Guys...
@@WhateverArtist yep you really never know what's going on in other people's lives anyway.
@@WhateverArtist I approve that but tbh wholesome as Ned seemed, anyone who ever believed the man who made a carrier out of his wife, might not know how real relationships work 🤣
This is the definition of gaslighting. He knows she’s about to dump him so he tries to beat her to the punch and make her believe it was his idea so that she then fights for the relationship and says no please take me back. He is a disgusting human being.
Right!! The way he threw all the blame on her, literally making her forget the whole reason she ran off on him in the first place. It's scary how manipulative people like Big Ed can be.
lol yep
ORRR, big ed can see the signs because he has experience in life, way more than liz, and he saw that she was NOT ready for marriage. He knows they shouldn't get married. If they really care for each other they need to not focus on labeling themselves so much and just focus on having a good time together. Ed may want to marry her but if he recognizes that they shouldn't be married then id say that's kinda respectable. He is NOT gaslighting her. People throw that term around like a hot potato. Ed shared an insecurity with her that he's afraid of being cheated on and she wanted to run away instead of calmly talk about it. Gaslighting would be him blatantly telling her that she is unlovable and only *he* will marry her. He did not do that. He tried to break it off. Please educate yourself on what gaslighting actually is. In the moment and ESPECIALLY on camera you don't know how to "perfectly" respond to certain emotional moments in life- hindsight is 20/20
@@cheechel96 lol how n ice of you to take everything he says at face value :D
@@cheechel96 what you said isn’t gaslighting either. Gas lighting it doing something then turning around to make the other person feel crazy by saying you didn’t do that thing. So when he said “I don’t want to marry you until…” and then immediately turned around and was like “YOURE not ready to get married.” Is actually a form of gas lighting. He was hoping that she would believe she is actually the one who in fact isn’t ready even tho he said he wasn’t first.
It's funny how Liz's mom said " You have brought her back from a dark place" to Ed, the same person who had put her in that dark place, huh
👏🏼 YES exactly!
YES!!!! Pulled her from a dark place?! He legit stuffed her back into that dark place, specially after the phone call video lol
It is possible, from the way Liz talked about her mom in the past, that the mom is also a narcissist and likes her to behave a certain way, and she does when she's with Ed. It's common of kids from narcissistic parents to go into narcissistic romantic relationships.
Lol thinking the same thing
No mommy, he has gaslighted and groomed her into a sad and crying shadow of the happy, strong and lively liz we ‘met’ in the restaurant before ed came in like a wreckingball on legs and invited her on a date which turned into a relationship in HELL
All I know is that when Liz first appeared on the show, she seemed like a happy person for the most part… ever since Liz got involved with Big Ed, she’s either uncomfortable, crying, or constantly on the verge of crying .
See, I knew she was going to leave him. I wasn't expecting her to *LITERALLY BREAK INTO A SPRINT AND RUN AWAY FROM HIM*. I'M DONE, BRO
That shows how desperate her subconscious wants to get rid of his BS 🤗😅.
That's real g moves
@@bibsp3556 G moves 🤔?
@@RodrickMarsMoon G moves: the moves of a real one
😂
"I can't live without her"
Also Ed: *Kicks Liz out*
Liz's grandparents need their own show 😂 they're awesome
I would watch that show religiously, they were such a breath of fresh air.
@Patrick39 Nice, me too.
@Patrick39 I didn’t laugh, so I doubt it
I want their backstory so badly.
Yeah, they feel like the most "real" people on this show, haha.
She obviously wasn't running from Ed, we all know he can't run after her. She's running from production. They're ruthless and do everything they can to egg on the drama. The way she turned around is probably because she had been telling them to leave her alone. Even when they offered her a ride it was to get her back to Ed, not to help her
Yep. They splice everything together however they like. I used to work on some stuff on tv and it's crazy how different it ends up from the shoot.
I can't believe Liz let a man who is so self absorbed and can't even turn his neck make her cry.... Many times.
Wow 😂
it has to be some kind of fetish at this point :D
What neck?
Facts
I mean he can't help his neck.........or his assholitry either it seems. 🤷
Liz should have pulled the 'the last time you married someone, you cheated on her when she was pregnant' card during that fight.
That would have been kill-shot to Ed's ego. You know he would have lost it at that. "Liz, you're just mean." lol
Finally ed is getting the treatment he deserves from the grandparents. Brilliant people, no bullshit.
I know what it's like to be in abusive relationships with extremely toxic men like Big Ed and the predator spins the victim to make it like they can't live without them. I think that is where Liz is at and it's heartbreaking and I feel for her so much. I hope Liz gets out of this abusive toxic mess someday and frees herself from the chains of Big Ed.
Same, I swear to god I’ll slap her if she goes back. I’m in that stage of healing,of fighting.
Weird turn at the end so no like from me
Was going to say that he reminds me of my narcissistic abusive ex, the best decision that girl made was running the hell away from him.
Her idiot mom didn't help
Something that isn't mentioned nearly enough is that Liz has a child. She is raising a child in this absolute mess. If he is kicking her out constantly then there's a high possibility he is also uprooting her daughter every time they fight or break up. This cannot be a healthy situation for this little girl, being raised by two oversized teenagers. Liz needs to get away from Ed and focus on her daughter and herself.
100%! Ed persuaded Liz to move in before she was ready, and now he can threaten to rip away her daughter's stability whenever he wants to control her. I feel so bad for that little girl.
What?!?! She has a daughter!?!?! I didn't know that wth!?!??
I believe the daughter doesn't live with her but with the father. Which is the best way because even if it's scripted or they are truly this trashy, the daughter should be as far away from this dumpster fire of a reality show as possible.
@ If she is living with the father, that says A LOT. Fathers very rarely get primary custody of children. Courts are extremely biased. The mother either has to be dangerously unfit or willingly forfeit the right to be the primary caregiver. Ed's vocally opposed to children. Choosing a public toxic relationship with him over her daughter will cause long-term damage. Poor kid. I hope she's too young to be fully aware of what's going on.
@@CreatEr1n well I am not sure about US laws but I think if the mother is doing shit like this on TV, it effects where the child is placed (at least I hope so). Or Liz just dropped her off at her father so she won't be a part of the tv show. Whatever is the case, I am positive that poor child is gonna have some kind of trauma from this :s clearly Liz's whole family history is a mess, she never had a mother figure so she can't really be one for her own daughter.
I was so impressed with the way she was running and carrying on a conversation by herself like she was out for a jog with a friend.
There's a video by ArthurTV where he talks about the "fight" between Liz and her friend. The friend's girlfriend actually messages him with the full story. They were leaving, and Liz was hugging them goodbye when the partners shared some inside joke that made Liz mad. Liz told them to leave (even tho they were already leaving). The girlfriend said Ed and Liz kept calling them and trying to stir up more drama, but she wouldn't play into it. So from the way she told it, I'm thinking production probably did get the "fight" on film, but they wouldn't sign releases because they didn't want to be used as some plot device. And the "fight" wasn't as juicy as the captions made it sound anyway.
Oh I love ArthurTV
I thought it was a reddit post but I watch a few different UA-camrs talk about them. But wasn't it aruther who looked up Ed's condition and it's life expectancy which might be why he is trying to marry so quick?
@@rebeccag.1016 Yeah, I remember seeing screenshots of a reddit post with this story. Also that Liz was drunk by that time.
Yes. Thank you. I was wondering if they knew about it. Your Wet Sock also mentioned it on his video, someone had linked him the comment on Arthur’s video.
@@Black.Spades didn't it* say the friend had just asked if Liz was okay cause she looked like she was going to cry and then the inside joke was said. And they were already headed out the door when security told them they needed to leave.
Either way this seemed very much a set up like the "shooting" in last season with ed.
*Edit for (it)
"The dedication should be there from the beginning." THANK YOU KEN!!
I love how the guard/security is following her as she runs, so she's ranting to him. He's a great listener. XD
I really hope that Liz puts her daughter as a priority from now on. She doesn't need some man to make her happy. She has a little bundle of joy, already!
It's weird how on the show it's claimed multiple times that Ed has been single for an eternity. Are they trying to pretend the mistreatment of Rose never happened?
I think Ed only considers marriage a relationship. In his mind he’s single unless he’s married.
@@BeccasaurousRex270 hence the sugar babies
@@BeccasaurousRex270 Naw even when married, don't forget he cheated on the first wife and mother of his child. He acts like she hurt him but he's been a piece of shit his whole life.
A 3 month relationship with Rose was nothing (a week in person). Liz is going into year 2 or 3.
That doesn't count because he didn't get to gaslight Rose as much like he does to Liz
"When Big Ed is your saving grace, I don't wanna know what you've been through."
Buff said it all for me.
I had the EXACT SAME reaction as Ken when Ed said “We been makin’ love, JUST KIDDING”. Oh my god. Ohhhhh my god.
I literally spat my tea a little
@@Feral_Bog_Witch I believe it, if I’d had mine I’m sure I would have too.
I almost threw up, that was SO gross. Not even just cringy-. Just straight vile.
I had to skip ahead 10 seconds lmao
Hearing him say that was like watching a car crash in slow motion I couldn’t look away
Home girl be literally runnin barefoot thru them streets. That is sheer talent
When you been in heels for an extended amount of time you dont care about the street cuz you just want your feet to feel better 😭
“But I also hope that your triflin' ass
Is walkin' 'round barefoot in these streets
Look out!” -smokin out the window
Running through the streets of California barefoot... My girl may want to get a blood test 🤣
@Ana Bananas and used needles and sharp rocks and dirt too.
That's how you *know* she got a past😂
the weird thing about Ed is he works so hard to find someone and as soon as he finds some one, he immediately takes her for granted and acts like he is SOOO much better than her.
it's an odd combination of ideas to exist in one head.
I think it’s a combination of him needing to be in control of the situation and deep insecurities. He needs to make the other person feel like he’s the best thing since sliced bread and that they’ll be sooo lost without him, and a lot of times this is achieved by acting as though you’re better than everyone while simultaneously putting down and belittling the other person. You can definitely see it in full effect during this episode
@@AWildJirachi it's been obvious since he first showed up. he acted like he was so in love with Rose and then immediately went after her hygiene and wanted to test her for STD in an insulting manner. then acted heartbroken when she left him like he didn't just treat her like she was sus and he was not sure he cared about her or that she was safe or sincere.
then he repeated the pattern with Liz, he was so nervous that she might not go out with him, was rushing to kiss her like he was in high school again, and once she gave in and was his gf, he acted like she was hot garbage, but when she left, he acted like he was lost without her.
he can act like a woman is an angel from above and a hot mess at the same time. that is just insane. if they are that much of a mess , leave them alone; if they are that great, put up with the small stuff.
but both cannot be true at the same time! just bonkers!
🤪
it's like he is in love with the idea of being in love , but the reality that person you are in love is another human with free will and ideas is too much for him!
@@theoverunderthinker My narc ex was exactly like that. He would name me a "Goddess" one day and then call me "Immature child" the next. Utterly exhausting to deal with.
@@Valoelify I can imagine!
I loved how Grandad Liz gave Ed
"Are you sure about that?" Chris Hansen Style
I was waiting for the John Cena meme to be edited in... :(
“Why don’t you have a seat”
That was rough hearing Ed gaslighting liz "you ruined the evening, ur drunk" no mate YOU ruined it by accusing liz
"The actor known as liz finally had it and they need to look for a new empathic female actor to "fall in love" with Ed for the next season"
The actor known as "Liz" lol.... that totally killed me 🤣🤣
I’m just so glad to be sharing this moment with y’all. I know it’s a one sided conversation and we all aren’t together. But we are in a sense that this is a comfortable place for a lot of us. I hope everyone is having a good day 🤘🏼
The "Argument" with Liz's friend was discussed by the friend's girlfriend, I think, on Twitter. Ed made it out to be something it wasn't, and totally tried to gaslight Liz here.
As Ken and Dane appropriately pointed out, Liz must have gone through hell to settle down and low for Ed.
Girl, you’re not even 30 yet, enjoy yourself and a good person will come along (if you want to ofc, many people are happily single). But please don’t do this to yourself!
Apparently the girlfriend of the lesbian who argued with Liz came forward and said that they were 'kicked out' over them making an inside joke with Liz that Liz then go angry with them about. That was the whole deal. The lesbian who touched her arm wasn't trying to come onto her or anything, they were just friends she was there with her own girlfriend. Also the producers or whatever blew up the two girlfriends' phones trying to get more drama from them and they had to ghost them to make them stop.
Me: Wow, grandpa's throwing Big Ed under the bus with these height jokes
My husband: No need, he can walk right under it
I'm ded
OMFG 😂😂😂😂
Big Ed has issues with women dating women, remember he did the same thing to Rose at the tell all “you’ve been with a woman” and he showed rose’s Instagram pic, dude is a loser and I think he’s got some issues he needs to fix as far as him being threatened by women dating women, after him. He also gave Rose a hard time bc she didn’t want to tell him about her exes and past, he won’t marry Liz without knowing her past… like Ed you cheated on your wife while she was pregnant, you have no clue what marriage is and you cannot judge others pasts when yours is shameful.
Yeah I don't understand that. He has no integrity whatsoever yet he likes to pass judgment on others past relationships. He's controlling and verbally abusive. I'm sure he was probably way worse to Rose, she just didn't have the opportunity to get a recording of him. And for liz to get back together with him and consider marriage with a person like this after what she DID record, makes me think that she has no connecting brain cells.
I totally forgot he said the same thing to Rose! Yeesh! With him constantly asking about her past and his fear of her cheating, I wonder how many times he thinks of cheating on her. People often say a cheater accuses their partner of it, so I wonder if same goes for someone who often thinks about other people in that manner.
i was literally gonna mention that he did the same thing to Rose! man clearly has a pattern
@@bookiechapters3785 100% he thinks about it, otherwise he wouldn't be so controlling of Liz.
brooo yeah thats exactly where my mind went to first i was like... damn the woman being lesbian must have of triggered him about Rose or smth lmao
I love Liz's grandparents. They are so savage. Also, I would have lost it if Ed would have thrown the pole into the water... lol
The grandparents are absolute GOLD.
Liz could have had a freak accident and tragically pass away and Ed would look at the coroner and go "So, how long have you been dating them?" to her corpse.
First of all he would say “Liz, you have ruined EVERYTHING for me, i can’t believe you get runned over by a car before our toxic relationship had even started for real, i had such big plans for me to take good care of you (gaslight you) and spoil you (emphasis on ‘spoil’) 🤨”! 🙈
@@trinejensen1707 yeah but he would also follow it up with "was the person who ran you over the lesbian who touched your Arm at the party?" This guy is trash..smh..
"I can't live without her"
"Are you sure about that?!"
Man's got same dad vibes as my dad and my own vibes towards my daughter and younger people than myself 🤣
Also, what grandma said about "are you willing to take care of him when he can't take care of himself?", I felt that. I've said this to so many people lol, that true love is gross. True love is not when things are fine, true love is tested when your SO craps themselves and you have to wipe their butt because they can't. Or when you have a baby and you have to deal with all the gross things of babies.
How dare he disrespect Danny Devito that way 😤
Yeah, Danny Devito is actually a nice person.
@Punished Nick Name right. And FORGET about comparing yourself to George Clooney, Ed. That dude’s older than you and he’s still smoldering
The girlfriend of Liz's lesbian friend made a statement to explain what happened since it wasn't filmed:
Y'all I CAN NOT with how this was portrayed. So my gf is the girl in question here. We were getting ready to leave so my gf was hugging Liz goodbye and Liz looked like she was going to cry so my gf looks at her like "hey are you good? Do you need to talk?" And had her hand on her arm. Then I walked up and made an inside joke we have had within our friend group and Liz LOST IT. She started yelling at me and my gf and I were like Liz it's a joke it's a joke. So we started to go back to our group to get our stuff because, again, we were already leaving and then she "kicked us out" bitch please we were already leaving. They kept calling my gf all night and Ed was harassing her trying to accuse them of having a relationship and my gf was like "I'm not here to be used for whatever plot or narrative you think is here". It was really exausting and my girlfriend was NEVER, EVER, attracted to Liz. Period.
The entire show is so blown out by editing. All those shows are
Man, I felt this. That sucks but it makes way more sense as they refused to show the footage and as soon as they found out they are lesbians. They said "Gold!!"
Oh wow. 😮
I will say Liz's grandparents are brutal 🤣
Yes and logical
They're awesome!🤗❤️
Well ed deserves that sooo…😂
nobody asked to hear my personal business. but just want to say something in response to Ken saying that he can't believe this could be a real relationship. While i can't say anything in regards to their relationship being real or not, I can promise you this exact premise of a relationship is very much a reality out there. It was mine pretty much to the T for 4 years.
We had fights exactly as ridiculous as this a million times. I'd unload everything like she did, he'd reply with threats and insults. Yet I was the one begging him to stay in the aftermath. If she's truly in the situation this show portrays, then i'll just say that she's smart and aware of every single thing he does and how wrong it is and how much he hurts her. Yet she has such little self worth that she will buy into his gaslighting, and he knows it. Anytime it all finally pours out of her, he'll threaten to leave instead of apologize. while you imagine she'd just say good, go then, she'll be the one that ends up begging for him to stay and apologizing.
People used to tell me I had sad eyes, and that i looked frightened and sad in general even when I felt my happiest. I didn't understand that and never did until I started watching your commentary on this show. You always comment about how sad liz looks all the time. I recognize what she's carrying behind her eyes.
The reason I felt like commenting about this is because today I was going to meet back up with him for the first time in years. This feels like a reminder of everything I'm denying by allowing him the chance to come around me after staying away for so many years. You surely didn't imagine that uploading a reaction video to a goofy TLC show would potentially change someones course in life, but hey lol, it appears that's exactly what happened today lol.
Thank you!
Yup, perfectly said. Even after my own experience like this I can’t believe it was real. I hope Liz wakes up soon :(
i'm glad you commented :) I couldn't agree more. Forgive me but I've ended up getting lost venting here about my thoughts on this, & I'm just gonna post it instead of worrying about how I let myself get lost in the convo haha. putting this at the start to make it clear I wasn't trying to somehow inform you of anything with this. I know you dont need to have any of this explained to you.. im just venting in the open. Don't have people around that I'm comfortable discussing this with.
BUt yeah, this behavior is all so familiar to me. I've found it super funny, but confusing, to see ken & buff persist it MUST be fake. I get you'd be suspicious cause it's TLC for christ sake, but the fact that their behavior is the reason they think it's fake is what left me like "huh? are they saying it's poorly acted or something?" cause I couldn't understand it's something most people havent dealt with. Makes sense though that people would usually cut those out of their lives who are capable of this looonnngg before it could evvvveeerr get this way. I guess that's the entire point of grooming, love bombing, && gaslighting being key parts of the abusers cycle. Like they clearly seek out partners who are vulnerable enough to ignore red flags that most people wont ever put up with, & then begin a cycle thats dependent on taking advantage of that vulnerability & lack of self love.
I guess that means that even the love they give you is abusive. Cause when you understand the bigger picture, even the love is purposeful && tactical & to get something in return. Also its used as a weapon, so you cling to them even when the cycle moves on to steps that reveal more who they really are. & right when you can't possibly take it anymore, they'll switch back & love bomb you again, reaffirming the persons doubts about leaving and showing them it was worth enduring the fight because of all these good moments. and then it repeats.
It's been 2 years for me since I left and I feel like i have years of work ahead of me before I'll even be able to simply date again. and i'm someone who's extremely social and romantic and would adore a partner. so it's not like it's normal for me to spend countless years without a partner. I just can't do it. I would be a horrible partner right now because of how messed up i am from it. But i'm trying not to give up on myself. I want to believe I can find myself again and that I'm not lost forever now.
@@saccharinespoon Thank you for what you shared. I wish you all, and myself, healing. Narcissists destroys and changes us.. but grab yourself once more, and hold your own hand as you slowly pull yourself from the dark...
“We’ve been makin’ love, just kidding” Liz: Thanks Ed, I’m just going to go drown myself in the ocean since I can’t face my grandparents now 🤦♀️
Like he actually knows what love is
He’s doing exactly what he tried to do to Rose
You two cracked the code to be able to upload regularly without seeming overplayed. Always entertaining.
I agree 1000% with you both. As a 34-year old I grew up in the early 2000s with the thoughts of oh "if you don't get married now, it's too late." lol
The "spinster" mindset was still alive and well in the early 2000s, (2022 as I am writing this comment,) so it was put in the heads of a lot of people that if you aren't "with someone, then you will be alone forever!!!" lol
So true, I’m 37 and have had two abusive marriages, first time I’ve been single for longer than a few months and it’s hard to change that mind set of “ill be single forever, unless I get married” but I’ve been solo since the end of 2020 and am working on those inner thoughts.
You grew up in the 90s tho? 34, you'd be born in 1988 so by time it hits 2000 you'd already be 12, almost a teenager....... you might have started to date in the 2000s but I don't think you can really say you grew up in the 2000s if your childhood was in the 90s.
@@megorex630 just remember love, being single isn't this horrible thing everyone tries to make it sound like take the time to learn about yourself fully love yourself take the time to realize what you're really worth raise your standards and stay single till those standards are met because you DO NOT EVER DESERVE TO BE ABUSED!!
@@onixpanda13 "As a 34-year old I grew up in the early 2000s with the thoughts of oh "if you don't get married now, it's too late." Now do you really think the op meant getting married at 10? Or are you just itching to be mean to somebody about anything?
I'm 43 and I don't understand why some think that marriage is the best thing to do! I'm stereotyped because of my age and I've got 2 cats! I have a good laugh when I tell these busybodies who think they know how I should live to f off! Their faces make me smile!!
I was in a relationship with someone like big Ed. Pushes you away just to tell you everything you want to hear, to pull you back in closer. Keep you insecure so they can control you. You can’t be happy without their permission. I hope liz comes to her senses and gets out for good
They are the worst. I was in a relationship with a gaslighter/love bomber for about 5 years and I damn near killed myself over it. Those people are terrible, they make you feel terrible, and they make you question everything.
@@Adders-bm5cs Classic Narcissistic abuse... I'm sorry.
Bro, the way Ed turns his head makes him look like a bird💀 13:37
Lmfao
Definitely no Owl though lol
Or a really,really, really, really shitty Batman.
"And here we have a short neck tit in it's natural environment desperately seeking a mate"
You mean turning his body XD
If this is actually real, I really hope Liz gets out. Ed's gaslighting and emotionally manipulating Liz during that phone call gives me flashbacks to my last relationship.
Liz needs to leave asap and never speak to him again.
I hope you are doing better now. Much Love to you. 💙💙💙💙💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
@@jennajoseph893 thank you 💕 I am. It's tough, but Im on the right track
He is horrible 😡
I dont think any of this is real, which is a new layer of shitty. I won't watch this show unless its through ken and buff bc of it.
@@tomorrow3556 I also can only watch this show through Ken and Buff.
My reason is because the cringe is far to strong! Lol
Ed always looks like he is slowly being dragged down to hell through his shirt 😅😆
omg, so funny!
The Devil probably stopped when he realized what kind of person Ed is. He doesn’t want that kind of guy around him 😂
@@wil.d_sage I like to think it's his own balls pulling him down. Even they don't want him to procreate 😅
😂😂😂😂
Abusive relationships are scary AF and hard to leave. You feel like your stuck and he's whats going to help you move even though he's what's keeping you there. I feel for her. He's blaming her for everything even though it's all his fault.
I find it hilarious that Ed's phone is almost bigger than he is
😂
I freaking love Liz's grandpa SO MUCH!! He is a true star in this video in my opinion.
Many people do unconsciously change after a wedding. When you’re married, you’re family. For many people, being family brings so many more issues than they had as independent people. Ken, you’re lucky.
My favorite part; Liz; “ SHUT THE F**k UP”! And then leaves the phone while ed keeps yagging on 😂
my whole body turns into a raisin when I see big Ed.
That's a very good way of describing how hard someone cringes. I agree with you too, I feel the same way whenever this douchebag of a minion opens his fowl little mouth.
Raisin awareness to healthy relationships
@@crunchybobaasmr2130 this is amazing
my GOD! this guys is a master manipulator. This ep really reminded me that Liz is a real person and I feel so sorry for her cus she thinks that Ed is all she deserves. I hope shes left him, finds herself, and then finds a actually decent guy
Liz either always looks bored or like she’s crying.
Would you been crying if you are dating Big Ed? I think that is enough reason to cry.
depressed and hungover
She might be tbh
“When big Ed is your saving grace, I don’t even want to know what you went through.” -Buff 😂
Buff is on fire in this video. His jokes are on the point !
When I saw ArthurTV react to this I IMMEDIATELY submitted it to y’all. There are no words to describe the joy I have watching this. There’s more after the party and I can’t wait to hear you’re reactions to it! Ken, Buff, Felix and Arthur are the kings of reaction!
It feels like a diss to Dani DeVito to say big ed looks like him.
Checking in again on the Big Ed marathon! Still loving you guys and I can’t believe the roller coaster these people are! Saw your latest video and HAD to get the full story lmao 6 more hours of my 12 hour shift to go! 🙌🙌
The thumbnail of her running 😭😂
“When Big Ed is your saving Grace I don’t even wanna know what you went through.” Damn 😂
I hope grandpa heard him talking to her that way I hope grandpa tagteamed grandma to support her while he told Ed what he really thinks about Ed treating Liz this way
I honestly think this is the best outcome. Ed has this all or nothing reaction to every little thing. This is why Liz has the fear that one fight with Ed will end the marriage because Ed will end it when something doesn't go his way. Treating people like toys is extremely toxic. I hate this I wish TLC would at least have an expert or counselor come in and comment to you know teach people what a relationship is.
Right. There’s a great series called Love on the Spectrum on Netflix, and it has a great relationship coach named Jodi Rodgers who appears on it a lot. The US version also has a good one named Jennifer Cooke
I dunno, this is the one time I've believed this was actually real 😂 I hear these exact types of arguments outside of my house occasionally from other houses. That actually sounds like a very angry, drunk woman who is ready to let some shit out
I want nothing more than for Liz to leave Ed for good. I want to watch that man cry.
"are you positive about that?" Feels like the ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT meme
Taking out the probably correct idea that TLC is controlling these events to some extent, she seemed legit drunk there. Which makes me more inclined to think she wasn't acting when she said what he has been doing. Plus, if she reacts that way to his weird ass insinuation (cus I too, cannot find the logical leap there so...let's just say Big Ed logic) then it isn't the first time. Judging from his abusive, controlling and terrible behaviour that has actually been aired, it is most likely so much worse behind the tv show. If your fiance said that to every guy or girl you touched? And most likely then limited or cut off your contact with them? Yeah, hearing that bull at your engagement party would set you off. It seems random and made up to us, but it really seemed to hit a nerve in Liz. If she kept up her role while also being as drunk as she looked then she is the best actress in the world 100%. Sadly, I don't think she is. I honestly think she is truly in this awful relationship that he is probably scripting out and that TLC is clearly enabling him. I hope she gets far far away, someone slaps her mom with the reality of Ed, while grandpa and grandma call him out and tear him a new one.
Not only am I skeptical of Big Ed and Liz's relationship, but I am skeptical of anybody willing to have a relationship with Big Ed.
Edit: except his mother, poor lady 😭
Nikocado Avocado probably would.
They say don't judge a book by it's cover.... but bags of cement...
@Olive I made a previous response, but that was before I realized that this might be a troll 😂😂😂
@Olive oh, you were really serious..... 😂😂😂.... Well... Okay, I wouldn't say she's GENUINE ... Their relationship was an obvious transaction, but she's definitely not as bad as Ed.
@Patrick39 dude shut tf up this was never funny
I’ve been waiting all week for this!
I'm surprised he didn't toss the fishing pole in the water like he tossed the food bowl to the pigs.
LMAO "when big ed is your saving grace i dont even wanna know what you went through"........ HAHAHAHA i lost it when Buff said that....
"I'm Danny devito mixed with George clooney"
The self awareness of the first person, followed by the sheer delusion of the second... Ed is such a conundrum.
@Punished Nick Name he was clearly talking about appearance, do try to keep up.
Liz is 29 and has been divorced twice. That would explain a lot.
How insecure do you have to be to see your fiance fighting with someone and think "omg they are totally flirting with each other"??? The level of stupidity
“Dont hurt her” Ed: again?
😂😂😂
Man, I’m only two weeks older than my husband, but seeing how much willpower he has and how crap my health is, I’ll probably end up incapable of taking care of myself before him. if that does happen imma tell him to just wheel me out back and put me down. I don’t want him having to change my diapers.
How insecure is he that he gets jealous of another woman?
I think he has a perfectly good reason to be insecure. I'm taller than Ed but I'm not 6' so I'm insecure about that. Men have it worse than women when it comes to stuff like this
@@3starperfectdeer233 oh I’m so sorry that you feel you get judged on one aspect of your physical appearance. Come back when you get called out on your breasts, legs, hair, ass, nose or feet. Also I feel that even if Ed was 6’3” he would still be an emotionally immature guy. He is a narcissist that can’t take responsibility for his own actions and because of that he will never find happiness or be able to grow.
As a Lesbian with female friends. I think so far this year, I have been told that I'm trying to "turn" someone, take their future "girlfriend" away from them, or accused me of hitting on my friends.
One of them, activity would make me feel bad for hugging my friends because "Maybe you shouldn't be so touchy, they might think you're into them?" Or "Have you consider, that they maybe they don't want you hug them but don't wanna be homophobic?" It hurt a lot and I actually tried to avoid physical contect because of that. Thankfully, my friends had my back. A lot of men and woman would even if that person isn't gay. However, they are more comfortable saying it when the person is gay or lesbian.
Cause women are so inferior? That's pretty 1950s. I've noticed that a lot of creepy, manipulative, abusive, men will accuse women of cheating with any other man they interact with. And when all else fails, they accuse women of being into women.
His gf gets touched on the arm and he goes *panik*
Bro I have become so invested in this story but I only want to watch these two react to it. So I can't just watch it on my own I gotta wait for their videos. I do love the healthy perspective you both have on relationships, it gives me hope for good relationships and love
Regarding the age difference - it can work. I am with a woman twice my age (I’m 32) and I have never been happier or more in love. But we have had the tough conversations about what will happen as she ages and so on. The issue with Ed is he goes after young women because he knows they often don’t have the life experience or confidence to say no to him yet. Not always the case, of course, but it’s a safer bet on his pathetic part.
True, true. And I wish you and your lady the best!
When I was younger women always used to say no to me 95% of the time; I imagine they still would too if I even bothered with that stuff anymore. So unless I am way worse than Ed I doubt it is a lack of confidence to say no. There's got to be something else there like Ed's money/wealth that influences it, or the producers of this show. There's no way I am worse than the shit bag people on this show lol He goes after young women probably because that is his sexual preference. Or, like the the question posed in this video, "Does she make you feel young?"
Yeah the problem is Ed isn't looking for a life partner, someone to love and support and support him when he needs it. Nope. He wants a young woman who is easy to manipulate. I suspect Liz had a previous toxic relationship making her perfect (unfortunately) to fall into Eds trap.
@@Arokuara I think it’s also him knowing which young women to target. Or thinking he does anyway. The ones who he thinks need him financially so he can trap them. He treats marrying like it’s a prize and boasts about how much the engagement ring was and buying Liz a car. Rose was emotionally mature enough to shut him down and she was even younger than Liz. I’m sure it’s a whole slew of issues with him.
For me, I just remember a bunch of older men trying to hit on me and my friends when I was in my early twenties. I’m a lesbian so they didn’t get very far, but looking back now I can clearly see what their motives were.
@@britt6217 my parents were 22 years apart and worked beautifully and had the type of relationship I have tried to have myself as an adult. I wish you and your lovely lady all the best and remember age is never a guarantee of who could go first. Fate has funny ways.
First time this has happened to me while watching this channel, but it actually is my birthday today! So thanks! ☺️
Tip: when running away from Big Edd make sure to run in a zig zag pattern so that way when he is running he has to turn his whole body, thus making him run out of breath faster
LMFAO 😂
LMAO
Every time I feel bad for this man, he shows his true colors lmao
Grandpop really roasted Ed. lmao
The rush of serotonin from Liz leaving the phone is priceless to me
My fiancé is 9 years older than me, and I say all of the things Mary says too 😂
Lol same! My fiancé is 10 years, and I'm always warning him like Mary too😂
@@keiraglymsi4868 and they better not die! 😭
We’re 6 months apart and I still say it 😂😂
Don't get married until you have been together for at least 5 years, it's the classic 5 year rule
Pssst, in ‘big ed-time’ those 5 years has already passed 😬
I can’t express how much I love the 90 day fiancé videos. I recently have been needing a comfort show and nothings getting me hooked, so I put on specifically 90 day fiancé with ken and Dane and it helps me sleep thank you guys immensely.
May I ask how the show comforts you?
@@scarlet16moons5 it’s more so ken and Dane because they’re funny and 90 day fiancé because it’s entertaining no matter what for me. so the mix of that I can listen to as background noise and not get annoyed and watch it and still find it funny. If that makes sense.
I don't even watch the actual show, but Ken and Dane's commentary has me following everything lol
Liz looks very sad for someone that is so happily in love.. 😞
Liz’ mum: “You have broughten my baby girl back from a dark place.” 😂
Every episode big Ed looks like one of our exes we’ve all dealt with
Ed learns that he is the first to be introduced to the family and he says it makes him feel special. So in his own words that makes him "special Ed", and the way he behaves, I can believe it.
Wonder if he rode the short yellow bus to school...
Pretty disrespectful to people who are special needs. Like there's no need for that comment.
@@vivianwells2032 I meant no disrespect to anyone who needs or needed the help of special education. I was just struck by the sheer arrogance of this fellow proclaiming that he felt special because she was introducing him to her family. Happy to see that the grandfather was not taken in by his attitude and took him down a peg or two.
@@vivianwells2032 idk I'm autistic and I thought that was funny lol
When she tells big Ed that he has a small little Ed, I almost died laughing I had to pause it because I could not breathe
She been ‘29’ for three years lol 😂
But in the time she has dated ed, she now looks at least 10 years older 👀😱
Ken has such a good look on relationships. Especially the whole marriage part, like yeah, if you both want to, and think it's right, get married. I get it's TLC and they gotta rush it, but in reality there's no rush. See how things play out. Marriage isn't the top thing on my mind when it comes to my relationship with my partner. And we've been together longer than other friends who've already gotten married. Everyone's different, I just always think it's better not rushing, you can't get to know someone properly in such a short space of time.
Exactly. It’s just like in their most recent commentary on The Button from The Cut, where he went on a tangent about how important it is to be friends first and foremost in your relationship, because there are a lot of people who’d rather date strangers, which is bonkers to me (and him). This dude has been married for years and has three kids for a reason
We all know Liz feeds into Ed's drama every time
Liz, are you there??? Don’t you dare run away from me while i’m gaslighting you, young lady 🤨”! 😂
Sad? Watch Ken's videos and Dane's laugh heals it everytime