DOF Reality H2 VERDICT! The GOOD & BAD: IS IT REALLY WORTH IT? MSFS VARJO AERO | Black Square BARON
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- My FINAL thoughts after using the DOF Reality H2 for over a month.
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I actually get the same effect with my poorly constructed static sim. My chair is so wobbly I get motion for free.
I have the same ‘feature’ installed!!! lol
You have won the comments! Well played amigo😂
Now you just need to get someone to "move" your chair in relation to what the screen shows and you are all set!
@@GYGOtv - Great idea. Hire a kid to watch the monitor and wiggle the chair. At minimum wage you could save money in the long run. For a little extra, he could solve the motion compensation problem by twisting your head when you bank.
@@saxhorn1508 LOL... might be the best idea for Motion Comp yet!!!
Since I've done my own DIY motion rig I'll never never come back to a static-mode flight sim. The VR+motion combo is the biggest jump I've done in videogames and simulators. Thousands of times more than the jump we saw from the 8 bits 2D games to 3D games in the 90's
How much do you spend on your own rig ? Any chance to see it ?
Thanks 🙏
Love the honest summary, a motion rig after VR is imho the last stage before the real thing so no matter what rig anyone gets it will always be a worthwhile investment. Thanks for sharing Steve!
Thankyou I appreciate that and I couldn't agree more!
Great summary! I’m getting delivery of my H2 on Wednesday 🎉
Thankyou very much and enjoy your new H2 👌
First! And I can't wait for my P6 to get here! The U-Shake6 got here earlier this week!
Congrats! What a great combination, you'll no doubt love it
The p3 feels better by the way… i know strange we have them at the airport
Hope you will not have the same problems like I have. I wait over 5 weeks on my P6, finally arrived, but came with a not working motherboard. Now I must wait again until they sent me a new one. Little bit frustrating. But maybe you have more luck, because luck is what you need on this DOF motion sims.✌️
I did not know about these guys before your 1st video about this subject. Since that time I have received my P3 and it is simply amazing that such a thing is available at the mass market. Pitch roll angles are massive and really throws you out. Not without its problems during install but once everything is dialed in it's the biggest game changer for any sim flight or racing.
What problems did you encounter during installation?
@@Cpen5311 Part of optical sensor on encoder was not properly attached, likely detached during shipping, easily fixable. The screw on the preassembled base was not tight, I had to check that before assembly that would save me quite some time. Firmware update is finicky had to disable serial port in BIOS.
@@letsgobrandon6545 thanks, I've noticed a lot of complaints about the newest firmware on discord. I'm not that tech-savvy and the 'plug and play' element was a huge incentive on getting the H2 - hopefully I can figure that update out when the time comes... lol
I've been using my H6 for over a week now, I'm using one of Jeff Weaver's SRS profiles (for subscribers) for MSFS, pretty good all round. I'm surprised that I'm not really having any motion compensation issues, and I like to throw the Bush planes about a bit in turbulence and force the odd stall. It has its quirks, and I've had to press the emergency stop button a few times when I inadvertently got into stormy weather, but on the whole I have to agree, it's a game changer for flight sim.
Jeff’s profiles are my go to as well. They are good starting pointings even for non-DOF Reality rigs.
@@jordovevrsims1796 Hey Jordova! Love your vids with the Yaw2. Anyone that doesn't know, Jordova has his own channel featuring the Yaw2 if you want to check it out. Still waiting for mine to show up, but it looks like it's going to be a while now...
I'm still definitely interested in this. My job changed last week as the the NHS funded company I work for lost the contract to deliver the service we've been delivering for the past 15 years so we've been transferred to another company so I don't want to make any big financial decisions until this has all settled but I think this year I'll resist the urge to buy any more headsets or PC tech so I can save up and probably get the H3. I feel like yaw will be worthwhile for rudder pedal control.
I love that plate you have that allows the yoke and throttle quadrant to be in front of you, and having a joystick mount as well on the side.
how often do you use the rudder??? It shouldnt be a high percentage of any of your flights. Yaw is more important for racing sims.
Another great honest review, thanks Steve, I wonder if you had the H3 (or god forbid the H6 for that matter!), if you would be like, ‘Could never go back to the H2!’
Thanks mate for being so supportive :) It would be interesting for sure!
Great review, Steve 👍👍👍
Thanks mate, your support to this channel is just amazing.
@@VRFlightSimGuy 👍
It’s crazy I too have a 2dof motion rig for 6 months and yet to use it with flightsim. It’s been dedicated to sim racing
Epic rig. Thanks for bringing this into our sims. Looking forward to getting my hands on one.
Motion compensation is an easy fix if you’re using base stations. So ideal with your pimax set up. A dedicated tracker or hand controller configured to tracker is mounted to the rig. It automatically compensates the motion with a steam plug-in.
Only one issue there is, I prefer Open XR :)
@@VRFlightSimGuy I'm gonna run into the same issue -- I prefer Open XR. My motion platform just shipped _today,_ but I'm already on the prowl for a viable motion compensation solution that will work with the P6, Open XR, a Pimax 8KX, and a single Lighthouse Base Station. Spending time _actually flying_ in the simulator is only _half_ of the 'fun' as it turns out! ;-)
@@MikeInExile I'll have something to show soon..
@@MikeInExile That's pretty amazing!! Thankyou for sharing this. I may try this with the Crystal soon!
I'm glad you mention the faffing.
It seems, if I ever get a new chair/racing sim, I will go with this for the motion rig + chair + wheel stand.
"Faffing" is the reason I don't use VR (other than it not looking good enough & being comfy enough, at my price point)
I am split between this or the Yaw VR 2.
good video as always.
I don't have a DOF system yet....
but as you said when you tested this system you can not go back on an office chair. like vr when you flew in vr you can no longer fly on a screen even 4k.
Cheers buddy, 100% right there!
There's a bit more faf with the H6, but it's a night and day improvement over not having motion.
I do spend some time in SRS tuning profiles, particularly with high power aircraft; I'm still very much a beginner!
Flying the Spitfire out of Duxford with a windy and turbulent day was throwing me all over the place!
Not having issues with motion compensation personally.
Great video and review. I have had my H3 since December 22. Have to upgrade my htc vive asap
Not sure if you have the room for it, but would love for Yaw to send you a Yaw2 so that you can compare the two. Surprised they haven't sent one to you already
I think he purchased this DOF H-2
You raise a good point about the mechanics being exposed with pets and kids around. DOF also do a much nicer metal surround for $300
I'm glad you mentioned the "mechanical" feeling at slow speeds, because I was noticing the same thing and wasn't sure if it was normal or not. When I first assembled it I had the motors on the wrong side and they slammed the seat back when I first turned it on and they started getting warm, so I was worried that I'd broken something. After fixing the problem It's been working great though.
I turned on a little bit of engine haptics so the rig rumbles slightly when the engines are on, which smooths out the slow speed bumpiness a bit I think, or at least makes those bumps blend into the rumble of the engine anyway.
That's a great tip thanks. I also find having a haptic seat helps too. I'm glad you are enjoying your new motion rig. Try flying without it, you will instantly miss it :)
@@VRFlightSimGuy yeah trying to fly without it feels weird. it makes crashing genuinely terrifying now too lol
@@drpenguin57 Exactly lol
Awesome video as always. I think a lot of the stuttering you are feeling is from the lower resolution encoders on the rig. I know DOF is working on Digital versions, but they are probably still too low of resolution to take out what you are feeling. Give it time, DOF is ALWAYS improving the product. Also, did you get your WinMotion box yet for Motion Comp or are you trying something else?
Thanks buddy! :) I think considering the price it's to be expected. I have been fiddling around with the software since this video and I've got a much better setting for GA type flying now. I find it remarkable how well the platform reacts to turbulence, the feeling of landing etc is so close to the real thing now.
I own the same rig and I agree 100 percent with you in all aspects.
Thanks Blitz 👍
Still waiting on my yaw2 pro arriving, it's been nearly 2 years already and now I'm getting inpatient seeing you with a rig lol
I really hope it arrives soon :(
Same here, I'm in the backer 200 range....someday....
@@justaguydoinstuff yip same here I’m in the 200 range to 👍🏻
I bought one myself after watching your video. It is by far the best immersion you can get ( and affordable). It is in his best when taking off and especially landing. I'm using SRS with a specific configuration for msfs2020 ( can share a link for that)
Couldn't agree more!
so what was the price for a rig?
Your comments reflect many others on electro-mechanical rigs the judder and stiction they create. You have to pay much more to remove it and it is also why the pro rigs are electro-hydraulic. As you correctly pointed out you won't do much better at the budget end of the motion rig scale.
Thanks for this, that's really good to know 👌
Thank you so much for your content! Looking at getting the H2 because of your videos! Lol! Really waiting for the motion compensation tutorial! So far I have only found content that needs SteamVR to work. It would be great if SimRacing supported the WIT with OpenXR! The simplest solution is definitely plugging a device to the motion rig and then pushing a button on SimRacing! Hehehe! I have also been seeing that less is more for VR, so another solution for the H2, would be to simply reduce the range of movement.
Thankyou and congrats! I'll have something to share very soon!
Thanks for the review. I will be getting a motion rig soon based on your recent coverage of the H2!
Just wonder where you got the quick release adapters? Is your mount for the yoke and throttle custom? Thx!
My pleasure Justin, I have links in the notes above with a special discount code too! Cheers :)
After hearing your enthusiastic praise (and giggling like a school girl using it) I decided to pull the trigger today and ordered an H3. I'm really looking forward using it with MSFS and putting it through it's paces. Now I just need to remember to disable the door bell cam when it arrives or my wife will kill me! :P
Nice one. You'll love it. Not sure how you'll hide it from the wife though!
If you're using openxr toolkit you can get rid of a lot of that stuttering issue, they have it under inputs. You can turn it up and it will get rid of stutters from your rig or heartbeat
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean? If you are referring to the movement in the video, I don't see that in the headset.
I bought this platform mainly on your review. I paid $400 extra for the SFU upgrade. The movement in the C172 in plane is very juddery. The people at DOF reality are "studying" the problem but have no solution. I didn't pay $2,000+ to be their R&D tester. Please be more thorough in you reviews. If you've found a solution the achieves smooth motion in standard turns, please tell us.
Did you get a result?
@@kiztime1234 No answer. Igor says they have a solution now but it looks expensive. There's a planetary gear solution from Robert Johnson but it only works with the sensor motors. Not so much of an issue for me after 200+ H2 hours.
*Sigh* I'd almost talked myself out of going motion, and then I watched this :) Do you have the gearbox upgrade?
Hi Chris, yes I have the SFU upgrade.
Irony, a sponsor who's relevant, and I'm actually using. I want to say it is Into the Blue who does the Instructor for those? They're really good.
I never knew that!
Pretend the judder is turbulence!
For flight sims I was looking at the Yaw 2 system as it appears to have a bigger range of motion than the DOF systems and is coming out with an upgraded version soon but the dof reality system looks smoother, now I'm not sure and waiting for a few more comparison reviews between the two.
RUN!!!! - check the dischord - nothing but issues, insane price increase, terrible business practice and communication. and yes, i am one of hte 1000 KS backers who will never get what they were promised. they are practically holding their old stuff back, that was meant for KS supporters and paid by us and use it for people who order now. unless you want to spend over 4000€ for something that might work somehow or not at all (see motion compensation - promised from the start, no one got it working).
Great Site you have, Thanks!!!!! I went to purchase the H3 but on checkout the delivery cost was approx $1,200 US… (I live in Australia) which is 1/2the cost of the unit again which Just couldn’t come at so in the end I didn’t purchase. I’m now looking at other ways to ship it… I contacted them and asked, the only thing they said is that they are so much cheaper than other rigs the price is still cheap but that doesn’t help me cost wise!… I was hoping they would have a slow delivery option like by ship or something like that rather than expensive DHL etc…. one day I’ll get one…
Yep... I have the same issue shipping to Adelaide.. I would luv to get a H3 but the shipping costs are too high.
Only way around that would be if a local supplier bulk purchased a container load to resell.
I did notice most reviews of dof reality do judder especially the 6dof
Steve I am thinking of getting one of these, could you show how to attach a gaming chair or even just explain please. I don't know if my chair will work as it is just a standard gaming chair
yes please, I would love to know the chair options
Hey! An ad relevant to my interests, how novel!
Yeah I've been thinking of mention sim for a while now but price of 1000's has always put me off . Looking at this though it's not so far off what i have already spent on pc upgrade VR head set & controllers . Have always been trying to get a close to real as possible without breaking the bank . When i first bought & tried my G2 it just blow me away then you get use to VR & want more & i think looking at your review this would add that extra . Thanks so much for your reviews . 👍
To throw a cat among the pigeons and you want go next level, add a active harness system to your rig ....epic 🙂
I'm scratching my head regarding the direction of roll that the rig interprets. Firstly, a balanced turn is a 1g manoeuvre, therefore you don't feel any roll. If you throw a wing over quickly, your body is pushed in the other direction to the turn (think of pulling your car wheel hard one way which throws you in the other direction), so I'm not getting why this rig rolls left when you do a left turn ...also, a hard pull back on the yoke should force your head down and be simulated by a pitch forwards, followed by a gentle recline once inertia has changed. I don't see the compensation for inertia of the body, centrifugal force or gravity. It looks backwards to me. It is a complex set of subtle motions to simulate correct movements. Maybe I'm assuming too much from the software.
I like the look of the quick release clip. What would I need to order so I could swap a x52Pro from a tray on my right to a centre mounted column between my legs!
Scratch the question. Just found their FAQ
Open mechanicals. Gaffer tape and plastic bags.
Pardon?
Im wanting to order the H3 in the next few months when im more flush financially. I cant work out if i have to pay import taxes as well as VAT (UK). What was you're experience
Thanks for a great channel! You have actually helped me to come to the conclusion that I need an H2. Though I struggle a bit on what add-ons I need. Especially when it comes to the monitor mount. I use the monitor in some cases when I fly, say about 30-40% of the time. The rest is VR.
Now I'm trying to decide if it's actually worth buying both the SFU upgrade and the wheels to get the monitor mount (since that's what's required)? Or, is it just as good to keep the screen on a static standard mount?
I looked into this. Go for the SFU gearboxes from what everyone's said with before/afters. The wheels you don't need for the monitor mount - I spoke to DOF Reality about that as it's confusing. They're just referring to a different design for the frame where a steering wheel would go. All new orders have this new "wide wheel base" in the design, no extras required.
@@BrodyHiggerson Thanks a lot! That's very valuable information.... now I know exactly what to order... 👍😀 ... can't wait to get it up running!
sometimes my G2 is stuck to 3 DoF, the i have to press Win+Y,
but this bug could be used to compensate motion
of a rig like the H2 or more sophisticated SFX-100
Been following your videos on this rig! In trying to decide H2 vs H3, your mention of this "yaw" feeling is interesting. Could you possibly try helicopters, like in DCS, and show what that looks like for yaw? And if that will take a while, even describing what it's like here? DOF Reality said their sale will last for another week so trying to figure it out! Cheers.
EDIT: How was the balancing for you? The instructions make it sound like you need a small crew to adjust it and lift it without motors to nail the balance point! Curious what it's like as you load up the equipment on the front e.g. the yoke.
Looks like they raised the H-2 price since I last looked.
I believe it's been on sale for a while, I'll have to take a look.
Curious which SRS profile you ended up using for MSFS, or do you have multiple ones depending on the type of aircraft, or did you custom make them all?
Hi, what would a complete setup similar to yours cost? including everything VR/Rig/Seat/PC etc..
I have a 50W Bass Shaker. It's enough.
Vibration is nice, but does not compete against real motion. Having both is best.
Was this bought directly from America? Can it be bought in UK?
The H2 I think is quite hands-on - a tinkerer's dream! I went with the Simrig SR2 and it's really plug and play, and has added so very much to the experience! I wouldn't say it adds much that's useful for flying sims; I'd say it does if set up correctly for racing sims.
Thanks for the informative video! Your thoughts on the H2 vs H3 or H6 for flight simulation? Need to add haptic chair pad?
Thinking of upgrading my flight sim set up with DOF H2 or H3 motion simulator, and Next Level Racing HF8 chair pad.
Appreciate your thoughts; keep up the great work ;)
(PPL training in process)
Hi Cali, firstly congratulations on embarking on your dream of becoming a real world pilot, that must be such a great feeling. I can't really say for sure since I have not tried a H3 or H6, I did however try a 3DOF motion rig when I went to see Varjo (with added heave), but to be honest I don't feel like I'm missing that extra movement. I'd love to try a 6DOF rig someday though! In regards to the haptic seat, I use the SRS one with 6 powerful transducers. I'll have a video out soon trying both the motion rig AND haptic seat (so far I've had little time to experiment with both), so stay tuned for that video coming soon. Take care.
@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks for your kind reply. Look forward to the that video! Please keep up the terrific content ;)
Told ya steve .get a buttkicker gamer thatll be the set completed.i use xp realistic which also adds to the emmersion but thats xp cheers
How it work with a RTX 3090, Ryzen 9 5900, 64 GB RAM system?
Super interesante, incluso quiero comprar uno, lastima el costo de envío puede fácilmente superar el 50% del costo del articulo, realmente el costo es tan alto que decidí no comprar, pues no veo justo que cuesta tanto ya que no trae una silla, viene desarmado y no es tan grande ni tan pesado para que cobren tanto por el envío.
I ordered the H3 over two weeks ago and they thanked me for my order and received payment. I haven't heard anything since. I checked and verified that it has not shipped. They advertised receipt usually in 2 weeks. Is it because they got overwhelmed with orders? How long did it take to receive your order? Thanks.
I'm about to press the button on a motion rig, between the H2 and H3. Steve, after having flown with the H2 for a while, do you ever feel the need to upgrade to the H3?
Not at all, but then I'm a fixed wing guy. I've also never tried the H3 so it's hard to compare something you've never tried. Best of luck with your decision.
That's really helpful. I really appreciate your response. I went for the H3 as I imagine it'll be fun to try out with Heli's and cars. I'll do a test to see if I can tell the difference in a fixed wing. 🙂
I'm trying to plan out my upgrade order between a 4090 (currently on a 3080), a U-Shake6, and this H2. I can't decide which order I want to get them in. Also, have you used the U-Shake6 in conjunction with the H2 at all? I would imagine it's a pretty awesome combo.
I've got a video out VERY soon about this. However, I'd personally get the 4090 first. It's tranformed my performance in VR and that's most important.
@@VRFlightSimGuy Awesome! Looking forward to seeing it!
The problem if you are counting the cost of each elements, that you're approaching the cost of the flight licence. It's a difficult choice ^^
Not even close, the cost of ownership responsibility and maintenance is not something everyone wants to endure
@@VRFlightSimGuy But in a club, maintenance regarding the club not the user. But yes, there's a cost for each flight, more or less 2000€ per year to for the minimum to keep the licence
@@ericveschi4904... And last time I checked, I can't fly thousands of different aircraft types all over the world without paying a dime for the gas ;) I love real world flying too, but this easily scratches the itch for the experiences that would be otherwise unobtainable
If your young and can afford it, definitely get a real pilot's licence! A sim will always be there for you! Still love to fly but can't pass the physical anymore sadly:( As a previous owner of both relatively cheap, (Beechcraft Musketeer) and expensive (Cessna 172) Ownership is great "for awhile" but if you don't have a lot of extra cash the throw around, (and retirement is well established) like you said join a club/rent etc would be best advice. My wife at the time knew exactly my plan for the day was when I said, "Honey, going out for a $500.00 hamburger, want to come?". (She became annoyed when it turned into a $1000+ hamburger run, LOL!
@@bakzetary3145 I totally agree, you'll never, ever beat the real thing. But boy aren't we getting closer and closer ;)
What is "faffing"
Can you explain what that is ?
Great video as always! Reply to your latest reply: LOL, no worries bud, he, he!
Thanks mate. So sorry about your other comment.
Even though its plug and play, don't you have to balance it and calibrate it so it's always level when you start it up? Do you have to do that every time you add a joystick or yoke?
Negative. Once the software is loaded and you are in your chosen sim, it self levels. It's always good to do a calibration check every now and then, which take a few seconds using their own software.
@@VRFlightSimGuy good to know, thanks! Still waiting for my H2 to ship. can't wait!
@@VRFlightSimGuy one more question: when it self levels, should you be in the seat or let it level with no one in it?
@@Cpen5311When you first setup your H2 or H3 you want to try and BALANCE it to some degree. There is a pivot point on the chair and you want the front, rear, and each side to be fairly close in weight. Don't throw everything on the front and expect your rig not to groan under the strain. There is a lot of benefit to balancing your rig correctly. Your motors last longer, your rig will respond quicker, and there is less strain on the rig overall. I have had my H3 with the SFU gearboxes for over a year. I have played as long as 6 hours in it non-stop and my motors never got above 25 degrees C. This is what correct balancing can achieve.
@@Cpen5311 Definitely let it do its thing first, as those motors are very powerful, once the sim has loaded up and the rig has levels, you can jump in.
Wait about the juddering do you have the sufa kit that’s on the p series ? Because that thing is not juddering it’s smoother.
I'll have to check that out!
How much space requirement in cm do you need for the h2 motion seat?
You probably already been asked this several times, but how do you record the VR gameplay? Im not able to.
Hi sorry I do not provide any tutorials for recording VR footage at this time.
So do I NEED the H3? or is the H2 good enough???
I don't know, I haven't tried a H3
What u recommend using it on bro ps5 or computer
What seat do you have for it?
I want a motion rig also but how does it behave doing Sparky moves flying inverted? :-)
Only an approved Sparky Sven can do such tests so I'll leave that one to you 😂
Attach the rig to the ceiling and you'll see...
😁 -->[]
@@therealcyril lol
Hi Steve, did your platform H2 is with SFU motors or without? SFU is much more better.....
I have the SFU upgrade
@@VRFlightSimGuy so, you didnt have H2. You owned P2 platform...
@@VRFlightSimGuy You have purchased the H2 plus SFU upgrade or have you purchased right away the P2? I am asking because I wonder what is the motion range of the H2 with the SFU upgrade? Thanks for your reply
@@rogerfed6240nop, the p2 got advanced motors.
Can I ask you what do you do for living mate?
Yes sure, I'm a Music Therapist.
Wow so expensive to own it 😢
So what you’re saying is you like it.
That’s an understatement:)) he loves it in every video he’s giggling like an excited school girl :))
so ive finally ordered my h2..what seat do u use for it?
Hi .. what seat you ended up with?
Any chance you can share your opinion so far ?
Thanks
@jesusrdz4091 gt omega rs9 seat and got a hf8 haptic seat pad. I really love my h2,use it everyday. I was slightly disappointed with it for flight simming cos at slow speeds it cogs (jerks) but for sim racing it's awesome..I also use it for Eurotruck simulator and Elite Dangerous
@@melvyns1975 thanks a lot for the answer…
I’m doing my research as usually before I get something that I know isn’t cheap or create a regret later ..
Better to know from people that actually owns one …
I think at the end of the next week I’ll jump to it …
Thanks again !
@jesusrdz4091 no worries..I'm playing a gt7 mod in Assetto Corsa these days,it's amazing with h2. It takes a lot of setting up but totally worth it.What I would say is make sure u get the sfu gearboxes (I think they come as standard now but not sure) when I got mine it had the standard gearboxes and it wasn't good so upgraded to sfu gearboxes and fitting them was a bit tricky. Good luck 👍
@@melvyns1975 hey, I appreciate the advice…
I think as soon as I get that I’ll ask you some questions about the setup.. I know every single system should be different, but with a starter setup may be a lot easier to me after all… if that’s ok with you ….
Thanks a lot for everything and enjoy the races !! 🫡
Good morning! I'm looking into buying a PC and the VARIO Aero Headset, could you please give me a quick "thumbs up" if you think the system below will meet the requierements for a smooth flying experience?
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, 4.5-5.7 GHz, 16 Cores / 32 Threads
Cool & Silent
Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Hero with USB 4 and Wifi
64 GB DDR5-RAM, 4800 MHz, 2 x 32 GB
Asus NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 TUF OC, 24 GB GDDR6X
1 TB Kingston FURY Renegade Gaming M.2 SSD, PCIe Gen 4
Kind regards
Andreas
That looks like a great system for the Aero 👍
Dare I say it “ I told you so “
😁
I own an H3 and its definitely worth it.
Do you have the upgraded gear boxes?
Alot smoother with those
Why do you have zip ties on your motors, steve?
Thanks Steve, yes I have the SFU upgrade. The video showing the gearboxes is from the unboxing video a while ago don't worry :)
@@VRFlightSimGuy yeah, I was thinking those zip ties had to be place holders or something but had to ask, lol
I'm sure you went through all the tunning settings in the srs software to smooth out the experience?
Have you experimented with joystick mode? Lots of fun to be had in rogue squadrons when mapped properly.
:)
As Always: very great content Steve! Thank you so much!!! @UA-camAlgo: Please push this content further :)
Thanks Andy you're the best! Have a great rest of your Sunday 😊😊