From Default to "Study Level" | Black Square Analog Baron | Full Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we take a look at the Black Square / Just Flight Analog Baron, available within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
The Analog Baron is part of Black Square's "Steam Gauge Overhaul" series, which aims to significantly improve the fidelity of the default B58. We'll be taking our Baron island hopping, on a short trip from St Barts Airport (TFFJ) over towards Princess Juliana (TNCM).
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 2666MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
While we're all busy praising the Black Square Bonanza and King Air, I'd just like to point out that their Cessna Caravan is also very fun. I think it gets a bit overshadowed by their newer releases.
We have a tendency to jump from one payware addon to another in this community.
@@PixieGirl101 Guilty as charged.
Sadly, this behavior is an “occupational hazard” for those who like cameras/optics, flight sim, firearms, golf, astronomy, etc. When spend is not too outrageous for the newest shiny thing, we just buy it. (I liken it to becoming a hoarder - “hobby hoarder” - which is a high-class problem, i suppose .😉)
Haha, a fair point Taschi.
I was conscious that I didn’t mention the Caravan; personally I don’t get quite as much enjoyment out of the addon, as it’s just not the type of aircraft I tend to fly in the sim. I also don’t think that the Caravan’s interior is quite as graphically beautiful as Black Square’s other releases, but I think that’s simply a function of the way the real life Caravan’s panel looks. Nevertheless, the Analogue Caravan is still another excellent Black Square effort!
Cheers, all the best : )
I cant stop flying this.
Into the Blue Simulations. Where to start? Perhaps with this: There is no more professional way to deal with Microsoft's MSFS 2020. It is immediately clear that someone is speaking who actually knows what he is talking about. Someone who flies professionally. But it's not just that. Just as impressive is the passion and fluency with which he does it. It is not possible to do it any better. But that's probably only understood by people who, like me, are crazy about flying. For me, it started at the age of 6. On my first flight in a Hapag-Lloyd Airbus A 300-B-4 to Las Palmas. I wish only one thing: That he never loses the fun of it and will continue to produce such amazing videos for a long time.
Thank you very much Peter, for quite possibly one of the nicest messages I have yet to receive! Your kind words about the channel are very much appreciated, but your point regarding passion is one that resonates with me all the more. Like you, I’ve been crazy about aviation, simming and flying for about as long as I can remember. It’s a real joy that I now get to share that passion with like-minded people, via the channel.
I’m really happy to hear that you’re enjoying the content! As with this video, I try to come up with flights / scenarios that interest me personally; I hope that means others will enjoy the videos also, but perhaps just as importantly, it means (hopefully) that I will continue to enjoy making the videos for a long time to come : )
Thanks you very much once again. Hugely appreciated!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you very much for your kind reply. I feel greatly honored. And I mean it. The Baron is pretty well done, by the way. But I'm a fan of analog cockpits anyway. In my opinion, the best cockpits are the ones with the right mix of analog and glass screens. The new Garmin flight decks all look the same, unfortunately.
My pleasure Peter!
Completely agree; give me an A310, or a classic 737 any day haha - just enough automation to make life easier, but still plenty of interesting things to look at / play with. The same in GA for sure; the G1000 is a superb piece of kit in the real world, but it does absolutely nothing for me in the sim.
Happy flying! : )
@3:28 This was a key selling point for myself. Little efficient GUI's such as this will always attract the 'systems'-nerd and set a pleasant, eye-appealing experience in the virtual cockpit. Spot on!
Indeed Stewie, a very slick setup from Black Square and it’s always so much nicer to be able to change configs “on the fly” (it’s rather clunky by modern standards, having to select an entirely different aircraft configuration from the main menu and then reloading the flight etc).
Just one of the many areas where Black Square hit the nail on the head! Cheers : )
The best MSFS aircraft reviews on the web !!!
Haha, thanks very much Andy, very kind of you to say! I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content. Much appreciated and all the best to you : )
I have the outstanding Black Square King Air, so I am very keen on getting the Baron as soon as it is available!
Hi Noel,
The King Air is still my favourite Black Square offering, but the Baron takes the number 2 spot and is excellent also. I do hope you’re enjoying it!
Happy flying and all the best : )
Excellent entertainment, immersion, technical presentation ... don't know what to say other than ... excellent. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the kind words Nick, very much appreciated. I’m really glad you enjoyed the video! My pleasure and all the best to you! : )
Another fantastic review. I cannot wait for this one. Just a few more days until all my free time gets sucked into learning another Black Square aircraft haah.
Thanks very much Toby, I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
Haha, well I do hope you’re remembering to eat, sleep etc XD
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Love these "old school" flights and explanations. Cheers Capt!
Thanks very much Cade, I’m really glad you’re enjoying them! My pleasure and all the best to you : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Any idea if those will ever come to the marketplace and XBOX?
Hi Moemen,
I’m afraid I’m really not sure. Currently, I believe the Black Square products are sold exclusively through Just Flight, whether they have plans to send them over to the Marketplace, I don’t know. Given that the WASM coding issues have now been sorted on the console, it should be feasible to offer the Black Square lineup on the Xbox also. I’d imagine someone over on the Just Flight forums might know.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. Cheers and all the best! : )
Glad you made it safely back on the ground. It's refreshing to see a developer holding themselves to such high standards. So when we get the product there are very few issues we have to deal with and can simply start up and go. Thanks for the review! !! !!!
Haha, cheers Mark! We live to fight another virtual day ; )
It’s very true actually; there are not many products that I take an “early access” look at, that don’t subsequently receive a whole raft of changes just prior to release (and usually shortly after release as well haha). Black Square usually put out a post-release patch, but the product is eminently usable from day 1. It’s great to see! Black Square haven’t really put much of a foot wrong to date. . .
A pleasure as always! Thanks : )
Love the twin. 😊 If I flew only one model and no other, this is it.
Thank you for another excellent preview. I really liked the Baron in FSX and wasn't too keen on the glass cockpit model so having purchased the other Black Square products I'm looking forward to this. Great job on the engine failure, those shots from the passenger cabin were certainly interesting.
My pleasure once again Terry!
Haha, I was the same; very much enjoyed the Baron in FSX and it was actually one of the aircraft that temped me to purchase the Premium Deluxe version of the sim. I only flew it a couple of times in the end though, not much caring for the Garmin. Now that we have an (excellent) Analogue Baron for the MSFS, I’m sure I’ll be spending many hours with the aircraft (when I can eventually find the time haha)!
I’m glad you enjoyed the engine failure. I thought coming back to Barts with it made for a nice little challenge : )
Hope you had a great weekend sir!
Great demonstration today. I can't wait to pick this one up.
Cheers Loc, really glad you enjoyed it! I do hope you’re enjoying the Baron also. Happy flying and all the best : )
Very good, especially the one-engine landing on such a tricky approach.
Thanks very much Paul, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Yes, whilst a little bit unrealistic of course, I thought the landing made for a fun challenge : )
Many thanks once again. I hope you had a great weekend!
Awesome review like always. I went and purchase despite the default aircraft downside of no door opening after watching this review. Totally worth it. my favorite twin GA now.
Thanks very much Optiled! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video and happy to hear that you’re having fun with the Baron also - it really is a great product : )
Happy flying and all the best!
Greate .For me its the first time experiencing a twin landing on one engine. Thank you so much for the lesson.
Thanks very much John, I’m glad you got to see something new with the video! I can’t say that this was a textbook example of handling an engine failure, since one almost certainly wouldn’t have returned to St Barts in real life (unless it was the only option), but I thought it made for a fun scenario.
My pleasure and all the best to you! : )
Great video! The engine failure was a fun surprise and very refreshing in how you presented it. I love that your videos don't have some clickbait title like "DISASTER in the BARON!! Will I DIE?!" with a cheap image of the plane going down in flames next to your face looking shocked on the preview. Nice and focused on delivering good information and entertainment without just trying to game the algorithm.
Don't forget the giant red clickbait arrow and circle around the flaming engine
Thanks very much Rusty, really glad you enjoyed the video!
Haha, I know, I know - my UA-cam marketing skills are severely sub-par XD
The UA-cam algorithm annoys me for many reasons, the above being just one of them ha. Clickbait works, without a doubt, it’s amazing how much difference a change in thumbnail, title etc can make. I don’t want to go down the path you mention, but of course I also want people to see my videos. I’m kind of hoping if I play the long game, people will come to associate my videos with a degree of quality and that will play out reasonably for the channel in the long run. Hopefully, slow and steady wins the race haha.
If things turn south though, standby for big red arrows in the thumbnail, me in full uniform - face aghast, as many exclamation marks as I can cram into the title etc XD
Thank you for your thoughts though Rusty, it is nice to hear that taking a more “subtle” approach doesn’t go unnoticed. All the best! : )
When you set the PJM VOR at 9:23, no need to type 113.00, just press the frequency in the line. It will ask you if you want it as primary or secondary!
Thanks very much for the pointer Pat. I was aware that there a few options for setting the frequency; I enjoy doing it the “old school” way for whatever reason though haha + I find it’s a little more illustrative for the viewer (otherwise they might miss what the frequency was etc).
Much appreciated! All the best : )
So far I have really enjoyed the Bonanza. Great upgrade and buttery smooth with not much of an fps hit.
This will have to be added to my collection in a few days.
If you’re a fan of the Bonanza Flightgamer, then I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun with the Baron also! Both are excellent products and very hard to pick apart, although being a twin (something we don’t have all that many of in the sim), I think the Baron marginally gets my preference.
If you did pick up the B58, I do hope you’re enjoying it! All the best : )
Nice,really enjoyed this one! Thanks!
Thanks Art, my pleasure! Cheers for watching, it’s very much appreciated : )
Wow! i can tell once you knew something was wrong you still kept your composure, great job getting her back on the ground, your mechanic will definatly have some work cut out for him lol! Oh i almost forgot to mention, if you want i saw the Osprey in the marketplace, i believe so if you have the tempt to hop back into a military aircraft, you got i believe a good one from what i read! great video as always buddy!
Haha, well it does tend to help one look like a “steely eyed missile man”, when you know the failure is coming (I programmed it) XD
Nevertheless, it made for a fun little challenge, getting the aircraft back down on the ground in Barts - glad you enjoyed it!
I may take a look at the Osprey at some point, but I have a long list of addons further ahead in the queue currently haha. From what I’ve seen / read though, it is indeed a very nice addon.
Many thanks once again! I hope you had a great weekend : )
As usual another good video Thank You
Haha, as usual, another great product from Black Square! Cheers once again Mike! Hope you had a great weekend : )
finally i was waiting for this one
Well I do hope it was worth the wait then, ZerOne (I think so)! Happy flying and all the best : )
I just don’t understand what’s with MSFS and the “doors”… it’s such a slap on the face!
Indeed Jwave, it’s a bit like MSFS and manuals; apparently someone decided that such “luxuries” (that we’ve had in flight simming for decades at this point) weren’t necessary and unfortunately the trend seems to have become progressively more prevalent. Visually modelling a door can’t be all that taxing, so I’m not sure why Asobo chose to forego the effort of doing so. Unfortunately, Black Square can’t address the issue, as the external model is protected by the licensing agreement apparently.
Cheers, all the best!
Pity Black Square can't sell the Asobo Baron as a package with this. I'd love to buy it (despite also having the 310, 414 and Seneca) but I only have the base game.
Maybe Black Square will make something ground-up (like a Duke). That would be awesome as they can do a great job (i.e. Velocity).
Indeed Roland, it is a pity. It’s also a pity that Asobo refuses to sell the Deluxe upgrade aircraft individually, as I think it would be a win-win. I was actually quite surprised to see Black Square go for the Baron, since straight away their target market will be a lot smaller (I’m still happy they did though haha).
A custom Black Square model would be great, I’m also hoping they’ll somehow take a look at some Carenado aircraft ; )
Hope you had a great weekend! : )
I'm with you on your point about the Duke. I had the B60 and the Turbine Duke from Real Air Simulations in FSX and P3D and they were par excellence but better in P3D. I clocked up over 1,500 hours in the B60 and about 400 in the Turbine. Just imagine how good they could be in MSFS!
Your prayers have been heard, a Black Square Duke is incoming next month!
As an old twin rated pilot i enjoyed the engine failure input.
As i remember the memory check list was.
PAID OFF STAR.
P prevent yaw with rudder.
A Attain single engine climb speed.
I identify failed engine.
D decide whether to feather immediately or not.
O open up power on live engine to maintain altitude
F try and find reason for failure if not.
F feather.
S safety vacuum and electrics
to live engine.
Tanks asymmetrical feed as required.
A airframe clean
R revise flight plan.
Awesome landing!
Thank you very much sir! : )
you're a madlad for not departing with flaps
Haha, indeed Alex; that was probably a poor decision in hindsight (given the length of the runway), but I just about got away with it XD
I was actually expecting the Baron to have a bit more “get up and go”, so was pretty surprised when it chewed through the whole runway ha.
All the best : )
Great video. It threw me when you lost an engine, as I was expecting the full flight. Unfortunately, I only have the standard version of MSFS. It would have made a nice transition from a single to a twin prop. Here's hoping they release a 'standalone' version.
Thanks AS! Haha, yeah, I thought it would be more fun if I left the engine failure in there as a surprise (it would have been a very short flight either way) ; )
I was quite surprised to see Black Square go for the Baron, because of course such a choice instantly limits their target market (“selfishly”, I’m still glad they did though haha). It would be great if a standalone version were made available, or at least if the Deluxe / Premium Deluxe aircraft could be purchased individually, but the ball would be in Asobo’s court for either of those scenarios. . .
Cheers once again! : )
Love your videos
Thank you very much Harold, very kind of you to say! It’s great to hear that you’re enjoying the content. Cheers and all the best : )
Great review. Not sure I would have returned to Barts (in real life) though! I note you commented the same.
Thanks David, glad you enjoyed it!
Haha, in real life I’m not sure I’d be brave enough to attempt St Barts on 2 engines, let alone one, but it’s always fun to try and push things a bit in the sim occasionally ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
Ynow what We are realy waiting for is .............. AN-2 review
Haha, well I do hope you enjoyed it then Mike! ; )
God, where people build runways these days! lol nice showcase again, thanks - those mechanics need a talking too as your planes keep breaking down (lol) 👏👍
I don't have anything higher than the base msfs, so therfore won't be getting this due to in my view MSFS crazy "buy the whole thing again" if you wish to upgrade instead of any difference pricing means I never will upgrade.
Still I did get the BlackSquare King Air 350i & may get the Caravan at some point, it's great these are as good as they are and will be a delight to upgrade too for many.
Thanks for content really awesome stuff. ❤
LG, good to see you again! : )
Haha, I know right; dodgy place to build a runway and the maintenance guys have no idea what they’re doing - the whole place should just be shut down! : P
Yeah, it’s a real shame that 1) one needs to own the Deluxe version of the sim, in order to enjoy the Baron and that 2) Asobo won’t sell the upgrade aircraft on an individual basis (I agree that it’s ridiculous, the sort of prices being charged to upgrade). The King Air is still the best of the bunch and the Bonanza is certainly very worthy of consideration also.
My pleasure as always. Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations lovely thanks for reply yes I’ve been enjoying the King Air and will add more planes when money allows - really miss those flying days irl at Booker but enjoying the sim again now. 💜👍
Thanks for this, I purchased the analog Bonanza and really enjoy flying it. I was literally about to ask the same question you already answered as I approached the end of the video, which was "how does the Baron hold up to the C310 and C414?". I'm glad I didn't embarrass myself by asking lol. The C414 is currently my favorite GA aircraft in the sim, with C310 at a very close second. I'll be sticking to those aircraft but keeping my eye on any updates to the Baron.
Haha, I wouldn’t worry Sean, most of the questions I get asked in the comments, have already been covered in the video XD
I would just make one important distinction there though: In terms of the flight model, the C414 and C310 are superior, in every other respect the Baron is every bit as good and has the best systems modelling of the bunch. As I have said to a couple of other people; if you’re a “flight model guy”, stick with the Cessnas, if you’re a “systems guy” (and your wallet can take it haha), the Baron is well worthy of your consideration.
I hope that helps clarify things a little more. Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for this, especially making the distinction between flight vs. systems modeling. I would have to say I would prefer more of a flight model superior aircraft over systems, but both directions have their benefit, feel good to be spoiling with this sim.
My pleasure as always, Sean!
Yes, for sure, some addons do better in certain areas than others. I joke with one of my mates, that some simmers are “pilots” and some are “engineers”; we all enjoy simming for different reasons at the end of the day. The good news is, now MSFS has plenty of options for all! : )
As always a detailed instructional video., the engine failure was unusual but seemed quite benign. A couple thoughts. A lot of time on startup and run up - any different from the stock aircraft procedure? Sorry, just watching on a large screen TV, but I could not read what any of the engine instruments, I could only see the indicator (of what)? needles. Zooming in on that section of the panel would have been helpful. Hopefully you will do a video on using the six pack to navigate. Looking forward to your next video.😎
Thanks very much Steve, glad you enjoyed it!
The engine failure was fairly benign in terms of handling, yes. Again, the Black Square products tend to focus on systems, as opposed to the flight model, so I’m not too surprised there. The Baron also seems to have a decent amount of power on a single engine, so that certainly helped.
I do tend to spend a lot of time on startup during my videos, I’m conscious of that. I do think it’s the best way to get a feel for systems depth though and also running through a full startup is one of the aspects of simming that I really enjoy, so it’s done for my benefit as much as anyone else’s haha. The procedures used are broadly the same as the stock Baron, however there are a lot more systems modelled on the Black Square version and the engine modelling is more refined etc (such that the correct procedures do have to be followed). As for zooming in on the panel, it’s certainly a valid request, but I like my videos to feel as though you’re sitting in the pilot’s seat and I think zooming in / out would kill that effect somewhat (there are other videos out there that show such things in more detail, so I don’t feel bad if I don’t cover it in my videos).
I did an IFR flight in the C414 recently, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after, but certainly I could look to do some more six pack navigation in the future:
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Thanks very much for your feedback Steve. All the best! : )
Great review as always. What program are you using for radio traffic?
Thanks very much Chris, glad you enjoyed it!
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
Hello and thanks for another fantastic and informative video. What kind of ATC Mod do you use?
Hi Lestard,
My pleasure on the video, I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
Banking into the dead engine? I thought that was a no-no.
Hi Bill,
A very good point to raise.
It's my understanding, that banking into a dead engine is best avoided, yes. In this particular case though, the alternative would have had me heading towards the high terrain. The aircraft should be controllable in either direction however, one should certainly be more cautious turning as I did here. It's also *very* much worth noting, these videos are not intended as *any* sort of real-world tutorial etc! : )
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
Can you include all the software additions too? That would be helpful. Great videos! Nicely done!
Hello Brian,
I know we talked about this over on Patreon. For the sake of clarity (in case anyone else is flicking through the comments section), during this video I think the only two mods I used (other than the aircraft itself), were the TDS GTNXi and the Bijan Four Seasons pack.
Many thanks again! All the best : )
Another fabulous video...thank you...and I like your professional presentation style, you are clearly very knowledgeable. One question, I noticed you set the transponder on the installed version and not on the 750 unit, is that usual as I have both as hardware units and thought with the 750 my Bendix transponder is now redundant.
Thanks very much Dave! Much appreciated and it’s always great to hear that someone is enjoying the content : )
Truth be told, I’m not sure on that one. I’ve never used one of these Garmin units (or any GPS) in the real world. Setting the physical transponder was force of habit as much as anything. I could be wrong, but I would imagine the two units would be linked in that regard, such that actuating one, would correctly set the other also (not sure how that might work with a non-digital transponder). I believe the Black Square cockpits are typically based on a specific real-world airframe, so presumably this config is accurate and I don’t see any issue with using one unit over the other.
Sorry I can’t offer up a more helpful answer on that one. Cheers and all the best!
full power feather? Good one ! You might want to read the POH
Crikey Paul. I’d love to read the POH, but I have a full time job, a family and then essentially another full time job by way of UA-cam - I don’t have the time to read the POH of every addon I review. I was running through memory items that I haven’t used in anger for some 15 years, if I missed one step, I shall graciously forgive myself haha.
Also (and perhaps my logic is flawed here), the engine didn’t appear to be producing any thrust when I feathered the prop, so I would imagine that the throttle position would be largely inconsequential at that point (not to say that it shouldn’t still be brought back to idle)? Further to that, I use a single throttle axis on my hardware so, it would have been impractical to split the throttles at any rate.
All the best
There is always one…..
where did you get the radio chatter from?... excellent videos as always, I love your in depth reviews!!!!!!!
Hi Ariel,
Thanks very much, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content!
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
What scenery package addon are you using for St Barts and the islands? Very attractive terrain and water.
Hi Ray,
It’s just the default MSFS scenery (I have all of the World Updates installed also, though I don’t think St Barts is included in any of those). The only scenery addon I am using in the video, is the Bijan Four Season mod, which may affect some of the vegetation.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
16:00-16:13 looked cool
Cheers, Rickie! : )
Nice flight! What do you use for headtracking, btw?
Thanks very much Qwerty, glad you enjoyed it! I’m a TrackIR user myself, although we seem to be a dying breed XD
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Only thing missing is that unique leathery smell of a Beechcraft.
Haha, I suppose one could buy themselves a leather chair for their sim setup, Stephen ; )
I’ve never actually flown a Baron, but just looking at the interiors of most Beechcraft, I can pretty much imagine the smell you’re referring to ha.
All the best! : )
Good video and of course great demonstration of the failure system.
In real life wouldn't you try to restart the engine if it dies during flight or is returning to the airfield more important?
Hi TY,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the flight!
It would really depend on the circumstances. I know it wasn’t apparent from the video but, I seem to recall that I ran an engine fire scenario during the flight; anything with fire, you really just want to try and put the fire out / get the aircraft back on the ground as quickly as possible. For sure though, if circumstances permit and the failure wasn’t induced by mechanical damage, attempting a restart would probably be a prudent idea (though if it were me, I’d still be looking to land ASAP, whether the engine started again or not).
In this particular case, I had planned a return to St Bart’s regardless, just for the fun of trying to land there single-engine haha : P
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
I really enjoyed the way you handled the engine failure.
I do have an odd question, though. What is the little black and white spinner looking instrument centered between the upper four engine instruments? It's an odd little instrument or maybe a little fan?
It shows the difference in RPM between the two engines.
@johnliptak1687 oh ok. Makes sense. Thank you!
@@johnliptak1687A leetle more elaboration would've helped even more, mate. I have heard your explanation lots of time and someone even went as far as detailing how to correct any anomaly there. Didn't quite register what he was saying with regards to determining which engine was over reving and how to sort that out.
Hello Andrew,
Thanks very much, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
Exactly as John mentions, the gauge indicates any difference in RPM between the two engines. If the two props are running at slightly different RPM, you can end up with an audible vibration, which can be rather annoying / uncomfortable. The gauge aids the pilot in syncing the RPM between the two props, thus resulting in happier passengers ; )
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
I think you may only have a certain time window for feathering the prop. After engine shutdown the oil pressure for feathering may not be available. Could be a feature. :-)
It looks like the lever just wasn't pulled back all the way to me.
Mine wouldn't work as my hardware would pull it back up.
Haha, how can you say such things Toby?? : P
It was pulled all the way back, at least initially (you can see that the prop did actually feather), but then my hardware started to get in the way thereafter.
All the best!
Spot on I think Tom. Obviously the prop did feather initially and then, given that both my prop controls are on the same axis, I inadvertently unfeathered it again, by moving the other engine back up to full rpm. I most likely wasn’t able to feather the prop again thereafter, due to the reduction in oil pressure (as you say, that appears to be modelled, which is awesome!).
Cheers and all the best : )
Your videos are wonderfully done and I enjoy them emensly. I notice you seem to do your own hibrid checklist. Is this for time sake? I also notice you stay away from the ingame ATC as well.
Thank you very much Christopher, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content!
It depends on the video / aircraft, but I tend to use real-world checklists (where available). I will occasionally omit steps from a checklist, if it’s not applicable to the sim, the system isn’t modelled on the aircraft, or indeed if I’m trying to cut down on time a bit (for example, sometimes I’ll skip systems checks etc).
In the early days of the channel, I did use the in-sim ATC, but 1) I never found it to be very good (more of a hindrance if anything haha) and 2) I just found that opening the pop-up window tended to kill the immersion. Since I didn’t feel the default ATC added much to the experience, I tend to just edit in some real-wold ATC these days.
I hope that clarifies things? Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for taking the time to reply. For me, you have nailed down the perfect balance of realism versus it being a sim. Keep up the great work as long as you love it, "Clear Prop"
My pleasure Christopher!
That’s a very nice piece of feedback to hear, as that’s pretty much what I try and go for. I like to do things realistically in the sim, but there’s no point (in my opinion) excluding “fun” from the equation. Sometimes it’s entertaining, to do unrealistic things realistically haha. Thanks again!
“Clear prop” ; )
Does anyone know how to bind the red autopilot disconnect button on the yoke to the joystick? I cant find the right command in the settings among all the autopilot disable/toggle etc entries. Thanks!
Have you checked the manual FSF, it may well be detailed there (the mixture keybinds are detailed in the manual for example)? I’m afraid I’m not too sure what the binding would be for the AP disconnect.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Hey ! At Intro, what airport is that ? I want to get there too ! Thx for sharing :) Sorry, I saw it now St Barts Airport (TFFJ)
Haha, bingo Ronnie! ; )
Yo IBS. It's TB again ... 😂
Do you use, "FS ATC Chatter" from Stick & Rudder Studios ?
Haha, hello sir : P
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. I don’t use FS ATC Chatter myself, as it would be tricky to work in around the video, but I always hear good things about it : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Aha. Well FS ATC Chatter is made from tge recordings you have... but 29,000 of them, trimmed, de-localised, and ordered in accordance with stage of flight... Ground, Departure, Centre etc.
Indeed! I would love you use the program, it would certainly make life a lot easier haha, but I tend to edit in the ATC around when I’m talking and obviously that wouldn’t work with FS Chatter ; )
Thanks man! You have a link for this Baron?
You're most welcome, Dr Aviator!
Sure thing: www.justflight.com/product/steam-gauge-overhaul-analog-baron
Just be advised, you will need access to the default Baron within the sim (so if memory serves me correctly, you'll need a copy of either the Deluxe, or Premium Deluxe edition of MSFS).
I hope that helps! All the best : )
❤
Cheers David! : )
What a touch not hiding the yoke throughout the flight. Rare care for realism.
Haha, cheers Jonny! I often wonder whether people notice little details like this. . .
Of course it can be a little bit of a pain at times, but I want the videos to feel as immersive as possible and I find removing the yoke, just immediately brings one’s brain back to the fact that it’s “only” a sim.
All the best : )
Any chance they will issue a study-level version of the BE-58 with the G1000 avionics? It would be great to have the improved flight model and systems modeling with access to the G1000 screens.
Hi Sean,
I did hear that idea being floated around and someone reckoned that option might be on the cards for Black Square, but I have no idea whether or not that’s true. It would seem like an obvious upgrade to make - presumably requiring only a little additional work on Black Square’s end. Perhaps it was felt that the G1000 still doesn’t have enough fidelity, to be in keeping with the rest of the product. . .
I’m afraid, ultimately I don’t have any concrete info on that one. Cheers, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations - Thanks very much! I appreciate your perspective. I'll see if I can find their contact info to ask them directly.
My pleasure, Sean! Cheers : )
Do you know if this is a standalone download or do I need the Delux MSFS update?
need the Delux MSFS update
Hi Lee,
I’m afraid you will need the Deluxe version of the sim, in order to make use of the Analogue Baron (not ideal I know).
I hope that clarifies things. All the best : )
What ATC add on is used for this sim? It doesn't sound like the MSFS default ATC .
Hi Jeff,
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations clever idea
Cheers Jeff! : )
Don’t know if I’ve asked you before or not but are you using track IR or tobii 5
he’s using trackIR
Hi Mav,
I am indeed (as Blindsight suggests) still using TrackIR myself : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations just got the Tobii 5 👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ My IR passed away 💔
Awww RIP haha. I’ve had 1 TrackIR die on me in about 16 years of use, so I suppose I can’t complain too much ha. How are you finding the Tobii? : )
Where you get the atc audio?
Hi Drone Pilot,
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
Would this be worth it if I already have and love the Milviz 310R?
Very tough to say Boudewijn haha. Firstly, it would depend on whether or not you’re happy to spend the money of course. Ultimately, if you’re more of a “systems guy”, I would say that the Baron is worth it, if you’re more of a “flight model guy”, then I wouldn’t see any advantages to owning this one over the 310.
I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
Sounds like another good product from BS but I'll be sticking with my 310 for GA twin, left the Baron behind when Milviz released that one.
It is indeed another excellent offering Mark, but it’s understandable if you only have enough room in the virtual hangar for just the one twin (and the 310 is excellent of course) ; )
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Hope you get your engine failure figured out I also hope it's not too expensive to fix hahaha LOL
Haha! No worries, I’ll send the bill to Black Square : P
I’m so conflicted on whether to get this one or the 414..
In some respects, that’s actually quite an easy choice to make Rabbitow ; )
If you’re more of a “systems guy” go with the Baron (there’s more systems depth, as well as wear and tear modelling, failures etc), if you’re more of a “flight model guy”, go with the C414. Both are excellent addons, but offer up quite different approaches to how they are implemented. Whichever you get, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.
I hope that helps a little. Best of luck haha! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you very much! I've actually went against my common sense and bought two airplanes - 414 and Bonanza, just to get that diversity.
Not gonna lie though, you owe me a lot of money, as it's AT LEAST 4th plane bought because of your reviews :) they should really pay you for all the work you've done for them. Please keep it up!*
*(and maybe convince my wife that the money spent on virtual aircraft is a good investment)
Haha, even better then! ; )
You aren’t the first person to point out that my channel should come with some sort of financial health warning haha - I can only apologise! On the plus side, perhaps I might have saved you from one of two “duds” also. . .
I’ll certainly try my best to keep the content coming. If I got paid for all of the addons I’d helped to sell, I’d certainly be well off, but if I could sell advice to help keep the wife on-side, I’d be set for life!! XD
Thanks very much and happy flying! : )
where i can the background radio sounds?
FS ATC CHATTER
Hi Barrett,
The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though (as Bakardee alludes to), if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes this helps me big time, i went and bought it last night and i love it. thank you.
Great! You’re most welcome. Happy flying : )
Ok, we need a black square DC3 😅
The default one is atrocious
Have you tried the Duckworks improvement mod?
The thought hadn’t occurred to me M RO, but that would be superb actually!! : D
may i ask what aircraft you fly in real life
Hello Graham,
I’m on the Airbus for the day job - I’ve flown a number of members of the Airbus family over the years. It’s been a fair old while since I’ve done the sort of flying demonstrated here, so it’s always good fun to get back to it in the sim : )
Cheers and all the best!
You just overlaying ATC clips or are you using a 3rd party ATC product.
Hi Herman,
The ATC is indeed real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Happy flying and all the best!
Why is 41° warm
41C, Rickie - not Fahrenheit ; )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations okay I was wondering that but in my barren for the sim it shows Fahrenheit
Indeed Rickie, but (if memory serves me correctly) on that particular gauge, it’s possible to switch between Fahrenheit and Celsius for the readout : )
I bought it but constant problems, engine 2 that goes out, ap that works poorly, very bad model for that money
Absolutely love the Black Square products, I have the King Air and the Bonanza and fly them often, but……..
I believe they have turned around the working of the EDM800 in the Baron. It is 14 years ago I flew a TB20 in RL with this device, but I checked with UA-cam movies. I posted this finding in the Justflight forum and got a bit of a vague answer. I hope the EDM in the Baron is different and the one in the Baron will receive an update (when I am right in my opinion).
What do you know about this device, did you ever used it in RL and compared it with the Baron and the Bonanza?
Hi Ben,
As I alluded to in my other reply (I realise you posed this question, before I had replied to your other comment), I’ve never seen or been near an EDM800 in my life haha! It would be a shame if Black Square has got something wrong there, but rather uncharacteristic of them to do so. If the EDM800 is spot on for the Bonanza, I don’t see why they wouldn’t have just “ported” it across to the Baron. . .
Any updates on the situation / your findings? Obviously I can’t be of much help on this one I’m afraid haha.
Cheers : )
I wonder if anyone else has always thought as I have that Asobo’s Baron has a sort of stubby, boxy, or chunky rounded nose compared to the real world Barons I’ve been around. The real plane seems to have a pointier nose - not King Air pointy, but still a bit sleeker- than that in the sim. I did hope the Black Square version might rework that, but no.
Keep in mind that the Baron has multiple body variants.
Hi Kirt,
Well unfortunately, even if the model is inaccurate, Black Square would not be able to rework it, as that would fall outside of licensing / what they’re allowed to do.
I tended to think the same as yourself, but as Taschi points out, not all Barons are born equal haha. There are numerous different Baron variants, including both short and long-bodied versions of the aircraft. Given the visual quality of the default aircraft overall, I’d imagine Asobo did accurately model whichever Baron they were using as a reference at the time.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
reply guy irrelevant Princess Juliana International Airport trivia. The Prime Minister of Sint Maarten, Silveria Jacobs, recently tackled the decision of the airport to terminate the COO in 2022. This is segue simply to share my favourite world leader's reaction to overseeing travel restrictions 😄 ua-cam.com/video/lNm31rnJauU/v-deo.html
Ahhhh Covid - don’t you just miss those days! XD
“Eat your hurricane preparation supplies” - and what happens if there’s a hurricane thereafter? Haha.
That did make me chuckle though. Cheers Tom! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ‘eat crackers!’
Hold on. Does it feature the same instrument panel as the Bonanza?
It's obviously not the same, as you can tell by the two sets of engine instruments. But a lot of the parts are the same, as in real life. There's no point in giving every plane a newly designed virtual horizon, for example, when you can just reuse the same part. In GA aircraft, you'll see a lot of instruments reused, even between different manufacturers, because everybody buys from a handful of third-party companies like Bendix/King or Garmin.
To some degree Rymd, yes, but that’s true to life. The Baron is somewhat of a “twin Bonanza” (or vice versa) and as Taschi points out, it’s quite normal to see the same avionics equipment / gauges over and over again in different aircraft. It’s not Black Square being “lazy” etc, it’s as it should be ; )
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
As with the Bonanza, the climb rate is wildly optimistic. I do wonder why the developers don't seem too bothered about basic performance accuracy.
I think it's an MSFS thing. All the prop aircraft have crazy climb rates esp at low alt (in my sim anyway).
Bit of an immersion breaker when you're flying in terrain and know you can just firewall the throttle any time to get out of trouble.
Is he flying the TC version or the normally aspirated version though? That should make a lot of difference in climb perf
@@RyanbATC TC doesn't make very much difference to your low level ROC. A Baron will be around 1500fpm climb, maybe 2000 if light and low temps. This was easily managing 3000, to be so far off is pretty bad for payware. But I guess simmers are more fussed about autopilot functionality etc...
@@sheldonholy5047 I didn't see his climb settings closely. Sometimes people just firewall the levers on climb and don't set climb power. I'd probably pitch for top of the white arc at 25/25. If you have experience why not email the developers or go to the Just Flight forums and make a comment? They seem to be fairly responsive to constructive criticism.
It depends if it's turbocharged or turbo normalised (idk what the Baron has). If TC it might climb better because you're getting a boosted mp and more power. If TN it will climb the same (depending on weight) down low, but have an advantage as you climb and the normalisation comes into play.
I think most GA planes are TN even if they're called turbocharged.
I wish you would only use default avionics in reviews as we don't all have the third party avionics. (Not trying to be mean, just something I wish)
While I can understand your approach I like to see all options rather than just basic.
Oh, sorry for the confusion as I think being able to see all of the options is valuable for everyone to see. I just feel the core avionics used should be one that everyone has available if they purchase the product being reviewed. I love the UA-camrs reviews and don't mean to step on them, they are obviously free to review them in any many they desire. Hope all is well, I do think the baron looks really good. If I had the money, I would probably aim for the bonanza though.
@@PixieGirl101 since we have different platforms we have different possibilities. In a review I expect to see most of the options but after I saw them the author can use whatever he wants and feels best for him. For special informations or instructions about one system a dedicated video makes sense to look for.
In the name of the community, I believe it is best we let this go. We have expressed our opinions and can move along.
The PMS50 GTN750 has a free version whichis very good and works with all the Black Square pla es - give it a try if you haven't already.
There is no study level in MSFS even airliner
But not for the XBox
Is that confirmed GBC, or were Black Square just waiting on the WASM fix (that arrived with Sim Update 12)?
All the best!
Pricing. Ridiculous for a simple upgrade on a stock model.
It's slightly more than a simple upgrade... I'm guessing you don't own the Bonanza based on your comment here, but this and the Bo are much more in depth than any other GA we have already. The developer has completely re-written the aircraft coding - there are many excellent features such as VOR signal degradation based on terrain, and the fact that the EGT shows a slight rise while running on a single mag? No other addon does this. Not to mention the abundant failure system if a user opts in for that. I've spent far more money over the years for trash addons that I used once and never fly again.
@@RyanbATC correct, I do not own any of their content yet. And what i have seen fails to sell itself. My understanding is that this requires ownership of the original plane and is merely an internal upgrade with some changed flight characteristics and not a new model. Would be very happy to be corrected on this point specifically.
@@Blxz you are correct in that it uses the exterior Baron model. However my comment was in response to yours about the upgrade just being "simple." I'd recommend watching the technical videos on this and the Bonanza for a more complete understanding of what features are available. The "upgrade" is far from simple.
@@RyanbATC we are getting hung up on the definition of 'simple' at this stage. Effectively what I mean is that it takes an existing plane that must be bought via one if the two upgrade packages to the base game and simply makes changes to the dashboard and flight profile and engine handling. And is being sold as a full price plane which, in my opinion, is massively overpriced.
Had it been a fully separate downloadable model plane totally independent from existing ownership then I'd have leapt at the deal.
Hi Blxz,
I did somewhat touch on your point towards the end of my video; personally I would have to politely disagree, although I can see where you’re coming from.
I suppose ultimately it comes down to how one chooses to value the product. Should the cost be based on features available, man-hours invested, or user enjoyment (I’m sure other criteria could be used as well). Arguably, when it comes to the first category, Black Square products do fall somewhat short (given the use of default sound components, flight model components and the visual external model) - charging £25 for a “default upgrade” does seem rich. Conversely, looking at the latter 2 categories, I think the product is well worth the money. Clearly a tonne of time / attention to detail has been invested into the product - the Black Square addons have some of the best systems modelling available in MSFS. In terms of user enjoyment / hours spent with the addon, I will get my money’s worth with the Bonanza, as much as any other £25 product.
I’ve seen it mentioned often in the comments and frankly it’s true; £25 doesn’t get one a lot these days - a round of beers maybe. By that metric, I don’t think the pricing is unreasonable, but it’s a personal call at the end of the day of course!
That’s my two pennies worth anyway haha. All the best! : )