It's 2023 and the DD, MD, and RV 500s are still on my board...in one of four parellel channels... These pedals have alot under the hood and the biggest bang for the buck, IMO...
@@LeonTodd man it’s hands down the best sounding delay I’ve ever used. It really blows the flashback away. You can get so many different sounds from 1 delay type just with the shaping features it’s so good. The big plus for me though is just how well it works with high gain. That’s really what I was after something that sat really well behind my main sound but still sounded huge and great. Boss totally nailed it. Has me curious about the other 200 series is the od200 any good? I’m kind of skeptical about the drive sounds.
To this date I still prefer the 500 series over the Strymons. The 200 delay and mod are fine if you're not interested in deep editing and a double effect, but Source Audio makes interesting competition, especially now that the Collider is out. As to the MD-500, the Terraform only does one effect. So I want an MD-500, but the waiting times are fairly long at the moment: at least two weeks. Sigh. I have to say though that my favourite Strymon pedal by now is the Volante. See the other message how I feel in love with tape echo...
So then I am asking this, since this was an in depth demo: 1. For how long can you wait using the TAP/CTL to TAP in a certain amount of LONG delay? Since the limit is 10 seconds, one thought one should do a TAP from anything from 1 ns to 9999 ms, but I never got one to trigger/register properly above 1 second. Is there a limit to what amount of milliseconds the TAP switch holds? There are numerous occasions live, where I like to MULTIPLY the BPM, to be able to play harmony licks, so I play a line first klick the tap in (while playing) and wait a few seconds (several bars in drumming and music) before I press it a second time, and the line comes back in the repeats but lasting a few bars, in time with the drummer and music. Like canon singing...
I have the original Kong SDD 300 Rack Unit. The unit's real magic is in the preamp. It's independent from the actual delay. The delay can be off but the preamp is still in the signal chain. It's one of the Edge's secrets to his tone. These units can't replicate that aspect of the rack unit unfortunately.
hey thanks for this, really appreciate it. A great vid thoroughly going through the pedal, super nice. Tho yeh I've been working with the DD6 for years, but as you know I'm sure, it's been discontinued....so this may be the new replacement - and to be able to preset delays, that's great for doing the larger shows, and know that things are set up nicely. I use a couple of the DD6's in my set up, it looks this one does what the DD6 does, but is even more developed obviously, is that right?.....it's that 300ms that I love!!
What is the longest delay time in stereo in the DD-500? I got the DD-20 and i got 27 sec. Long of delay in stereo. In the specs in Boss website they say 10 sec. in stereo. This DD-500 is supposed to be an upgrade of the DD-20 why they cut on the length?
It's 10 seconds. However, if A/B simul mode is used, and on top of that SERIES mode, you can actually get a 20 second long delay. But here is the catch, only at the first initial repeat, the rest of the feedbacks are at 10 seconds, because the algorithm doesn't allow the feedback to be put in from B unit into the A patch again. It only feedbacks/repeats in B unit. When you play one note. it sails through the A unit (without feedback/repeats, set to 0, just one delayed signal) and then directly into the B unit since it is series, and then only there it starts to repeat/feedback to whatever that setting is at, and that one can only be set to 10 seconds. If you set this feedback setting (on B) to 0. It actually WILL sound 20 seconds after since this is the lone repeat. But it can only be set to sound once, with no decay feedback/repeat settings. The use for such a delay is quite limiting IMHO. They cut on the length because they thought 10 seconds on each A/B would be sufficient enough. And if people want longer you really can use the FEEDBACK LOOP (but in mono) to send AUX out to external gear (another delay perhaps) and then back in again, and then you can increase the maximum delay time as much as you want. That "another delay" hasn't got to be another DD-500, or TimeLine or posh fancy high end gear. Just another simple delay with long delay possibilites. Most small form factor delay pedals, has this long delays as a hidden feature. TC Electronics all FlashBack delays has 7 seconds if you want them to. But to set DD-500 to use it as an additional efx/send return takes up the stereo in and outs, and you can only use that feature in mono. It's a SYSTEM WIDE setting. Then if you keep that physical setting with 2 extra patch cables, you have to program every other preset for this setup too. In mono. Say for every preset that doesn't need that extra pedal in the chain, you must program every preset to 0 setting in the feedback loop, so the external delay don't mess with your settings for each preset. Just some. A serious trade off, for sure.
The big problem with these designs by Boss is you can only go up or down through the patches one foot press of two switches at a time. I mean having 200 presets is great, but who wants to press both foot switches 50 times to get from one patch to another.
Geoff F66 a bit late to the party, but you can actually hold the exit button and then use the time knob to quickly skip through the patches. Not optimal but better than the 2 footswitch option
I know it's 2½ years later, but I've not seen your video on it, so here's my response.... Honestly, I remember when the DD-20 came out, but I went with the Line6 Echo Park around that time (the maker of that is now Meris). Its rotary just went from 8th notes, 4th notes, etc, ping pong, reverse, sweep, swell, slap & ducking, but you could choose betwee digital, analog and tape. And that's how in love with tape echo. Anyway, it's input jack broke :(. So I'm looking for another delay / delay+reverb.
Hey! Thanks for the great review and walkthrough. How long do the batteries lasts usually? I was thinking for live sets in the forest but don’t want to buy them if the batteries are dead in and hour or two
Javier Aldan you can also use presets A and B at the same time, you just gotta set it up that way. so you can have a tape preset in A and a analog in B for example
Can this get out of control with the feedback to the point where it seems your going to blow out your speakers?the old analog delay could get really out of control.i owned the dd20 and could not get that pedal to get that crazy.so before dropping 200+ on this pedal can someone answer my question.
I admire your playing a lot and many of your demos are simply amazing! Yet... why did you demo 18 minutes of this beast never giving a single hint of the long feedback it can offer (sadly stuck at 9 o'clock)?
You can definitely do it, it just lacks the diffusion parameter the lexicon has. But you can have up to 16 panned delay taps on the Boss and modulation :D
Maybe using the 16 panned delay taps with modulation it's possible to recreate the holdsworth ud stomp modulated sound. Thank u Leon, i'm definitely buying one of those.
@@NuZTheRockerOFFICIAL I find the boss to be better for making presets and fiddling with the controls. I find it far easier to use. Tone wise the strymon is a bit better but harder to use on stage as the screen is smaller.
It's 2023 and the DD, MD, and RV 500s are still on my board...in one of four parellel channels... These pedals have alot under the hood and the biggest bang for the buck, IMO...
Fully fledged studio level effects in pedals. Brilliant.
Man just got the dd200 and it’s absolutely the best sounding delay I’ve ever played through! Boss did it the best in my opinion!
The DD200 is awesome - I've got a few videos with it here if you're curious :)
@@LeonTodd man it’s hands down the best sounding delay I’ve ever used. It really blows the flashback away. You can get so many different sounds from 1 delay type just with the shaping features it’s so good. The big plus for me though is just how well it works with high gain. That’s really what I was after something that sat really well behind my main sound but still sounded huge and great. Boss totally nailed it. Has me curious about the other 200 series is the od200 any good? I’m kind of skeptical about the drive sounds.
To this date I still prefer the 500 series over the Strymons. The 200 delay and mod are fine if you're not interested in deep editing and a double effect, but Source Audio makes interesting competition, especially now that the Collider is out. As to the MD-500, the Terraform only does one effect. So I want an MD-500, but the waiting times are fairly long at the moment: at least two weeks. Sigh. I have to say though that my favourite Strymon pedal by now is the Volante. See the other message how I feel in love with tape echo...
I could easily see the need for a dd500 for all the "standard" delays and a Volante for the rest :D
This pedal kicks ass...it is the most professional sounding dely i have ever used....forget the mxr and all those this is the one you want.
Pretty good demo of this pedal. Balloon for you. 🎈 Wish I had seen this a while ago...
Great upload demo thank you. The only drawback is mega music online price at $479 compared to all other sellers at $359.
Those Tera Echo tones circa 16:14 were an absolute joy to listen to.
Boss had done , many , more of great pedals, from small sizes, to powerful....
Geez. I need a course in this pedal. Very nice.
Good video sounds great audio. Great show
Superb demonstration. Thanks 🙏
Cool pedal, nice playing too. That guitar sounds great.
Great demo
Fun , pedals need to be ...popular. and playing. On and on....boss said so !
With this video you comvince me . Thank you so much
Reall good review ! Thank you
So then I am asking this, since this was an in depth demo:
1. For how long can you wait using the TAP/CTL to TAP in a certain amount of LONG delay? Since the limit is 10 seconds, one thought one should do a TAP from anything from 1 ns to 9999 ms, but I never got one to trigger/register properly above 1 second. Is there a limit to what amount of milliseconds the TAP switch holds?
There are numerous occasions live, where I like to MULTIPLY the BPM, to be able to play harmony licks, so I play a line first klick the tap in (while playing) and wait a few seconds (several bars in drumming and music) before I press it a second time, and the line comes back in the repeats but lasting a few bars, in time with the drummer and music. Like canon singing...
se puede lograr el efecto twist como en el dd 200?
I have the original Kong SDD 300 Rack Unit. The unit's real magic is in the preamp. It's independent from the actual delay. The delay can be off but the preamp is still in the signal chain. It's one of the Edge's secrets to his tone. These units can't replicate that aspect of the rack unit unfortunately.
hey thanks for this, really appreciate it. A great vid thoroughly going through the pedal, super nice. Tho yeh I've been working with the DD6 for years, but as you know I'm sure, it's been discontinued....so this may be the new replacement - and to be able to preset delays, that's great for doing the larger shows, and know that things are set up nicely. I use a couple of the DD6's in my set up, it looks this one does what the DD6 does, but is even more developed obviously, is that right?.....it's that 300ms that I love!!
Im stuck between this and the timeline . Anyone got experience with using both and which is better ?
Thanks man 🤙
No problem 👍
What MIDI CC# do I use to turn the pedal ON/OFF?
What is the longest delay time in stereo in the DD-500? I got the DD-20 and i got 27 sec. Long of delay in stereo. In the specs in Boss website they say 10 sec. in stereo. This DD-500 is supposed to be an upgrade of the DD-20 why they cut on the length?
It's 10 seconds. However, if A/B simul mode is used, and on top of that SERIES mode, you can actually get a 20 second long delay. But here is the catch, only at the first initial repeat, the rest of the feedbacks are at 10 seconds, because the algorithm doesn't allow the feedback to be put in from B unit into the A patch again. It only feedbacks/repeats in B unit.
When you play one note. it sails through the A unit (without feedback/repeats, set to 0, just one delayed signal) and then directly into the B unit since it is series, and then only there it starts to repeat/feedback to whatever that setting is at, and that one can only be set to 10 seconds. If you set this feedback setting (on B) to 0. It actually WILL sound 20 seconds after since this is the lone repeat. But it can only be set to sound once, with no decay feedback/repeat settings. The use for such a delay is quite limiting IMHO.
They cut on the length because they thought 10 seconds on each A/B would be sufficient enough. And if people want longer you really can use the FEEDBACK LOOP (but in mono) to send AUX out to external gear (another delay perhaps) and then back in again, and then you can increase the maximum delay time as much as you want. That "another delay" hasn't got to be another DD-500, or TimeLine or posh fancy high end gear. Just another simple delay with long delay possibilites. Most small form factor delay pedals, has this long delays as a hidden feature. TC Electronics all FlashBack delays has 7 seconds if you want them to.
But to set DD-500 to use it as an additional efx/send return takes up the stereo in and outs, and you can only use that feature in mono. It's a SYSTEM WIDE setting. Then if you keep that physical setting with 2 extra patch cables, you have to program every other preset for this setup too. In mono. Say for every preset that doesn't need that extra pedal in the chain, you must program every preset to 0 setting in the feedback loop, so the external delay don't mess with your settings for each preset. Just some. A serious trade off, for sure.
The big problem with these designs by Boss is you can only go up or down through the patches one foot press of two switches at a time. I mean having 200 presets is great, but who wants to press both foot switches 50 times to get from one patch to another.
Geoff F66 a bit late to the party, but you can actually hold the exit button and then use the time knob to quickly skip through the patches. Not optimal but better than the 2 footswitch option
I know it's 2½ years later, but I've not seen your video on it, so here's my response....
Honestly, I remember when the DD-20 came out, but I went with the Line6 Echo Park around that time (the maker of that is now Meris). Its rotary just went from 8th notes, 4th notes, etc, ping pong, reverse, sweep, swell, slap & ducking, but you could choose betwee digital, analog and tape. And that's how in love with tape echo. Anyway, it's input jack broke :(. So I'm looking for another delay / delay+reverb.
Hey! Thanks for the great review and walkthrough. How long do the batteries lasts usually? I was thinking for live sets in the forest but don’t want to buy them if the batteries are dead in and hour or two
I've only used it off the power supply so I can't answer that unfortunately. Live sets in the forest sound awesome though.
Get a Isolated Power Supply - it will Sound Better running at Full Power. Even a 1 - Spot. Its a Great Pedal.
Can it do pitch and harmony effects without delay?
From what I've heard, this delay will go up to something like a full 10 seconds. Nobody demonstrates that feature from what I've seen,
Can you plug the boss dvd-500 into one of the aca outlets on the voodoo Lab pedal power 2 plus? Or does it need its own power cable separate?
cool demo , cheers.
🐂💨💨
So if I want pin-pong I choose the dual mode? Can it be a pnig pong analog or ping ping tape? Is it the same tone as the actual analog and tape modes?
Javier Aldan you can also use presets A and B at the same time, you just gotta set it up that way. so you can have a tape preset in A and a analog in B for example
how does this pedal compare to the Strymon Timeline ?
Hey made a video on that
Great demo but the effect level seems lower than mine!
Can this get out of control with the feedback to the point where it seems your going to blow out your speakers?the old analog delay could get really out of control.i owned the dd20 and could not get that pedal to get that crazy.so before dropping 200+ on this pedal can someone answer my question.
Late, but sure it can. At least some of the delay types. Haven't tried all of them in depth yet.
Ace!
Great unit, BOSS hit a winner here
Do you know any pedals that do the dotted 8ths and the Brian May double repeat that don't cost so much?
What’s your signal chain?
Using the AX8 for the amp tones, DD500 after the amp/cab models. Stereo out to a UAD Apollo interface.
Whenever I switch to the tap settings, my tap light doesn’t come on. What should I do? And great video by they way!
. example..u have patch 1A and 1B.. if tap is set to patch 1A, ur marker (selector)on d display should be on patch 1A and not B
Leon
How does a guy get a doubling effect using delay and verb on the AX8???
Paweeeeeez Mayng !!
Try the enhancer block
the edge? that was korg
I admire your playing a lot and many of your demos are simply amazing!
Yet... why did you demo 18 minutes of this beast never giving a single hint of the long feedback it can offer (sadly stuck at 9 o'clock)?
I'd do a few things different about this demo now that I've done a lot more - exploring feedback/self oscillation definitely being one of them.
@@LeonTodd I’d love to see you explore it more! I’m currently thinking about replacing my timefactor
at 16 min it goes up to about 10: 30... so theres that. ;)
@@LeonTodd maybe is time for a revisiting video :D
You hang out in Dallas a lot?
Is it possible replicate the circular delay using the DD500?
I'm not 100% sure but the pattern delay should be able to get there. I'll try it out and let you know.
You can definitely do it, it just lacks the diffusion parameter the lexicon has. But you can have up to 16 panned delay taps on the Boss and modulation :D
Maybe using the 16 panned delay taps with modulation it's possible to recreate the holdsworth ud stomp modulated sound. Thank u Leon, i'm definitely buying one of those.
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This guy makes a really cool preset based on the UD Stomp!
I love Chords of Orion! Yeah the Pattern delay would be all over those UD tones.
Did you like this or the Timeline better?
The DD-500 is a tad more versatile but the Timeline is a tad more "grab and go". They're both incredible.
@@LeonTodd yeah, ok, we got the differences... But which one would you prefere? 🤔
@@NuZTheRockerOFFICIAL I find the boss to be better for making presets and fiddling with the controls. I find it far easier to use. Tone wise the strymon is a bit better but harder to use on stage as the screen is smaller.
Ahem... Mr Gilmour was Mr Delay before Mr Edge lol