Bill Alfonso on the Infamous Lex Luger vs Bruiser Brody Cage Match (Why Did Luger Run from Brody?)
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- Bill Alfonso on the Infamous Lex Luger vs Bruiser Brody Cage Match (Why Did Luger Run from Brody?)
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Bruise Brody was the most believable character in the history of wrestling!! God bless you Frank, you was my favorite as a child growing up in the 70’s and 80’s!!!
To see the Frank Goodish interview in his ‘Dark Side’ episode, and to see him almost transform in the next scene was something to behold.
God rest his soul. ‘Bruiser’ certainly deserved a long, and blessed career.
I use to believe Abdullah The Butcher & Cactus Jack!.. Especially when they were together!
Brody was my favorite also. Back in 1984 or 1985, he was in a match with Bull Dog Bob Brown in a gymnasium in St. Charles, Missouri. Things went haywire quick. He went out of the ring after Bulldog and his manager Slick. He took his left arm and swept 5 or more kids( Cubscouts) off their chairs just to grab one chair. He went after them swinging and whacking anything that got in his way. Me and some friends were in the front row on one side. Here they came toward us. My buddy was 230 pounds and was on the football team. I said get going. I followed him. People were falling and running over other people to get out of there way. It was obvious him and Bulldog were not friends. TRUST ME! This wasn't fake. Brody ended up in the bleachers going after Slick and Bulldog. There were people tripping and falling, ALL AGES OF PEOPLE. Wrestlers were coming out to try to calm Brody down. It was like he SNAPPED. IT WAS NUTS!!! Him and RIC Flair were my favorites.
It is great to hear from referee Alfonso again! Him managing Taz with his constant screaming and whistle blowing was epic! One of the most underrated heel managers ever!
That whistle got so much heat, I wanted to shove it down his throat lol, but at the same time I loved how animated he would get jumping around outside the ring.
Fr I feel like he doesn't get enough attention
Lex luger is the nicest guy of anyone. Probably too nice for this business
Disagree. Bill and his whistle were annoying as hell. Not in a good way, like I wanted to see him get beat up. In a bad way, like I changed the channel or muted the tv if he came on.
Heel*
According to Luger, Frank just stopped working with him and Luger asked Fonzie what he should do.
Fonzie called the spot for the ref bump and Luger climbed out of the cage and that is the end of what Fonzie knew of what happened.
Luger in his own words said that he had been trained by Hiro Matsuda and was told after every match you"Must" thank your opponent win, lose or draw.
So Luger went to the heel dressing room and thanked Brody and asked if he had done anything wrong and also offered himself up to get his ass kicked if that's what he had coming.
He asked Frank did I do something wrong and he apologized for being green.
Frank said, "No kid, it just wasn't right out there".
Meaning the office wanted Luger to squash Brody which would have hurt him in Japan. So Frank was put in a bad situation and made a career call in the ring that didn't hurt him.
Luger admits Frank was a big scary guy and said Frank could kick his ass, but he was no coward and he went to Frank immediately after the match which is what all of Hiro Matsuda's students were told to do.
Frank did to the promoters what he always did to the promoters he fucked them and took care of himself. Then he boarded a plane and went back to Japan a bigger legend than he left.
Frank Brody was tough but he was a smart businessman and had no animosity towards Luger at all.
I heard the same thing about Luger. I wonder, though, what you say about Brody "Fucking" over promoters. He was always booked in the territories, so why would they keep booking him if he fucked them over? I always liked how he was a face in one territory and a heel in another. I could literally change the channel to the AWA and he'd be a face/heel, then on WCCW, he'd be the opposite. At the time when I thought it was real, I was confused, but still entertained either way.
Great recall. I remember a few of Luger's interviews and you're spot on as far as his recount of what happened.
Maybe thats why people hated him soooo bad they was willing to do what they did to him...
@@bohacekml Brody used to check the gates. If he knew it was a big house and he was the draw, he'd ask for an appropriate payoff relative to the gate.
This is exactly why he'll always be known as the 1st independent wrestler, IMO.
@@bohacekml You know Michael an average wrestler would never get away with it. But Brody was the real thing a legit tough guy and like Scope Wrestling said the first independent wrestler or even a real independent contractor as Vince like to call his Superstars (which they are not).
Every territory Brody went to he popped it and promoters made money.
I think today the only wrestler who comes close to calling his shots would be Brock Lesnar. And the truth, he only calls them in the WWE and Japan.
Brody came into the AWA and I made sure to get a ticket every time. He was a guaranteed attraction .
Fritz in WCCW, with Gary Hart as booker was magic for Frank because he and Gary were friends.
I had heard that John Nord and Frank had a contract just before Bruisers murder in Puerto Rico to come into the WWF as a tag team and John claims he still has the paper work.
Once Frank died Ron annd Don Harris used a simular gimmick but it would have been great to see the Bruiser and the Barbarian brothers in the WWF at the time.
Bruiser Brody is my all time favorite, thank you James for asking about this. You sir are the best at these shoot interviews!
LMAO your username and picture, brilliant 😂.
I feel like I need an umbrella as he is talking down to the camera. LOL
Love what ref Fonzie said. You have to respect your senior partner & respect him Lugar.
This is the most believable and plausible explanation of that match that I have ever heard.
alfonso really makes it so easy to understand the business when he talks .. it's so simple
i for years wondered what led to such a breakdown in the match and why Brody was acting like that - all makes perfect sense now. Great interview!
Any real wrestling fan has seen or at least heard of this match but I didn't realize that Bill Alfonso was the referee in that match. Once you hear his side of what happened it absolutely makes perfect sense.
Damn it's wild seeing Fonzie with a full mouth of teeth. Good for him
Dentures
@@americandiablo haha. Naturally. I'm saying, pretty sure he was missing teeth as far back as that brody/lex cage match as far as I remember
Bruiser Brody was the quintessential wrestler. As a kid seeing wrestling in passing after cartoons went off on Saturday the wrestler who stands out is Bruiser Brody. Serious
Awesome. I was hoping for this question .
I find it funny that people would expect Lugar to act any different. Greenhorn in the ring with someone's Brody's size who stopped working. Anyone would wonder if Brody was going to shoot. If your name wasn't Race, Haku or Andre you would probably be worried about getting away from the situation. Bill has it right though. Bad booking. Lugar needed more Barry Windham or Arn Anderson at that time. I watched a Windham shoot and Barry said Lugar was hard to work with the first couple years.
In Georgia Championship Wrestling Bruiser Brody came in after Stan Hansen had convinced Ole Anderson to use him again following the last fallout there. Brody decides to cut a promo and put a light bulb in his mouth to convince the fans he was nuts. Ole told Bruiser he just looked like a dumbass and fired him again lol
How have i never seen this channel? Keep up the good work.
Bobby Heenan didn't like Brody at all. He said Brody was always screwing with the promoter because he thought the promoter was screwing with him. He would go out and deliberately shit on the match and refuse to do business he already agreed to. He was really shitting on the whole business. Especially the fans who bought tickets.
Exactly! For some reason most people keep in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!!
In his first appearance - managed by Percy Pringle - they called him “The Lugar” and then also Larry (his real first name) Lugar.
Everything about it makes ya wonder why the hell the match was booked. Can't have Luger lose. No way Brody's jobbing. Put em in a cage. Hard to not see a potential disaster coming
Met Bill and been to his house on the river back in his Tampa days.
Wild hearing Fonzie speak normal with no whistle lol.
Love u Fonzie
Bruiser Brody is my favorite wrestler of all time. What a great in ring persona Frank Goodish created.
If I thought Brody was pissed at me I would be taking off in my car also at 100 mph
Man do I miss bill Aldonso. He was one of my favorite guys in ecw.
Still has the whistle. 😆
This guy never disappoints
So funny how these ring names come up 😂💪
Great insight but Bill was off on Brody being 20 something years in business at that time. Brody started in 1973 and this was in the eighties
If you listen to Lex's story. Lex went over to Brody in the locker room afterward and talked with Brody and apologized to him. Brody told him don't worry about it, it just didn't work and it wasn't Lex's fault. He told Lex that he knew there were big plans for Lex and it would be ok. Lex admitted he was scared, but he didn't just run out of there and go home. There is always one side, the other side, and the truth.
Points not 🚫 taken
Bill Alfonso also says Luger pushed him against the cage....Luger barely touched him and he fell on the mat....Watch the match....
Great stuff
Brody was rough and tough that's what made him believable along with that look! Package deal... said one time if you can't take the punishment find another profession! The Samoan SWAT team busted up Lugar's ass too for complaining about their chops leaving marks on his body. Should have called him prima donna! 😁💯👌
LOVE YA FONZIE!!!!!
Never Heard that side of the story another good interview
Luger name was a spin off Lex Luther
It would be great to get Brodys' version of this match!
Ol Fonsie was a master.
Wow Bill looks like he cleaned up alot.
That's a smoker's voice if I ever heard one.
Apparently brody.gave the undertaker an.asswhipping too...back in the early days of undertakers.career...however .it would be interesting to see a match between brody&lesnar..
For some reason most people in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!
Ayyyy Fonzie got new teeth, good for him
I still feel Brody could have handled it better... lol
For some reason most people in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!!
I could pick this man's brain for days...
i always thought luger's 'green' 1980's wcw years before he went over to wwf were his best body of work.
Looks like Bill Alfonso got some new teeth!
Mike's liquor said he didn't leave it here and talk to Brody
I never realized bill alfonso was the referee
Finally I know what happened make sense now
Why would Luger want to stay in a cage with a large burly man acting unpredictably?
Excatly. For some reason most people in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!
For some reason most people keep in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!!
I thought that after there match that luger went to talk to Brody and everything was cool
Brody should've done business. Brody was his own worst enemy.
Brody did do business.... His way! Why wouldn't he was a smart man and the most believable product in the business! 👌🚧🚫
Really, it sounds like Luger shoulda been listening n following Brody's lead.
That didn't work for him, brother.
Excatly. For some reason most people in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!
Bruiser was all out
Compared to Wrestling today, Lex Luger has slowly become a damn decent wrestler I actually am looking back on the WWF and WcW more positively now a days...
His name was Rex Ruger.
But Lex Luger said he went after the match to Brodies locker room to apologize. Did he lie?
It's hard to say, but yes, I have seen the Luger interview where he says he went to Brody after the match to apologize. According to Luger, Brody told him not to worry about... "It just wasn't working for me tonight, kid". It's hard to say what really happened, but if I had to guess, someone in management was ribbing both Luger and Brody to see what would happen
Yup Bill still spits when he talks. I bet his name is covered daily. 🤭
Paul E circa 1995: "Bill Alfonso, You're going to ban the fans from the next ECW television show? Me to you....write a will....quick"
Heard Brodie had razors taped under his fingers was right before he got murked in p r
Brody was a beast in the 80's.
Bad idea to put luger in a cage with Brody because luger was too inexperienced.
I'd love to see Lex Luger interviewed if he hasn't already been. I wonder what his take would be on this match.
Brad,it's on you tube, pull it up.
I've heard this story more than a few times from both Alfonso and Lugar and what I have always found weird is the DQ finish for a cage match. Also what was the original finish suppose to be?
It was going to end in a DQ anyways. He literally says so in this very video.
Disqualification. Brody hated doing jobs.
God bless Lex Luger.
How do you get a dq in a cage match??? goddamn fonzie if you dont know just say that
Fonzie sounds like Jim Varney or Earnest.
That spittle flying every time he talks....smh
How in the hell do you do a DQ in a cage match? A cage match is supposed to be a finale between two wrestlers, settling their score. I agree, shitty booking. You're asking a rookie who you're trying to get over to wrestle an over wrestler who won't job for him. This whole thing makes no sense, and this is with Dusty doing the booking. I heard a few years ago that Dusty liked to use the cage match a lot, even if there's no reason for it. I think this is one of those types of bookings. Ha...maybe it was a rib on Bruiser Brody!
Brody matches were the shits compared to wresting these days but that’s like moolah for the women it’s respect and they were good at that time
Luger was out of his league with Bruiser Brody!!!
Does Bill Alfonso have XRay vision? How did he see Lex Luger run to his dressing room, grab his stuff and jump in his car? Alfonso was in the cage!
Brody corrected a young Mark Calloway in ring. Luger would have benefited from the same treatment. He did great but could have been even better instead of running away after a dq finish
Yeah but Brody didn't try to correct Luger. He just stood there and did nothing. Pretty sure it was just Brody not liking the way the match was booked and it had nothing to do with Luger. Brody is well known for doing this.
PEARL JAM!!!!!!
The absolute WORST lighting and camera angle for Bill. I had to stop looking at the screen so I didn’t have to see the torrential downpour or spit when he talks. 😂😂😂😂😂
All I could think of was the DX face shield for Sgt. Slaughter!!
Bill forget to pay his heating bill?
It's cig smoke as he emulates the Sandman rather than cold breath
Billy, please reissue your tee shirt. I tried to order and it's only available xl. Make some coin my man.
Take a shot every time he says uh. You'll be passed out before they even talk about the match.
Mmmmmmmm… We’re you stationed in DaNang?
Is that spit or cocaine that constantly falls out of his face?
Still smoking give it a brake ?
Matsuda should've done us all a favor and broke Hogan's back
Excellent, beautiful BUBBA!
Luger was too cocky n conceited n wouldn't listened
Knowhutimean
Lex wasnt one of the boys.. hadn't payed his dues. Shooting his mouth off about all the money he was making
Brusier Brody would eat Lex Luger for Breakfast😂🤣
Na, I wouldn't bet on it. Lex was not only big/muscular, but he was also a tough athlete -- anyone that was the youngest player in the CFL must be tough AF, so don't sell Luger short here.
@@jonathanturbide2232 😂🤣If you think Lex Luger was equally as tough Bruiser Brody then you need therapy
@@chrisruth7057 Why? Because Brody was huge and said huss huss huss? Dude, you're severely underestimating the toughness of a top athlete like Luger. Again, anyone that was a pro football player at 18-19 must be tough as hell, so yeah I wouldn't bet against Lex. I'm sure that on any given day Luger could have went punch to punch with him, but hey keep on having these wet dreams about big bad Brody.
@@jonathanturbide2232 Nope I don't have wet dreams about at all..The only thing that Lex Luger would win would be Weightlifting Bench Press Deadlift & Squat ect but not by a lot Brody was very strong aswell
Bruiser Brody was a fake tough guy. The one time he stepped up, he got finished.
He's lying
Oh, you were the ref in that match then?
Half the shit that comes out of his mouth
Is he?
The Bruiser Brody gimmick worked real well if Luger was legit scared💀
Brody made it look as close to realistic as any wrestler could and that would probably account for his Fame. You believed it was real
If Bruiser Brody with 20-plus years decides to treat you like a jobber during a match...You go along!
Not really. For some reason most people in these interviews keep trying to hide the fact that Brody was a big bully!!!
@@Eufor-ya Brody was a bully in a cutthroat profession. The horror!
@@Eufor-ya If you call someone with balls a bully you must be some kind of light weight pal.
Luger couldnt work. So brody didnt have to either. Luger didnt sell shit, so brody didnt either. You cant make a comeback if you dont go anywhere... get worked.
Looks like a a doobie
Brody was a lousy worker that’s why he ended up the way he did.
Dayum why ya so cold, guess the same could be said for Schibata too then?
@@KoolKumasi Terry Funk said the greatest 2 wrestlers ever was Johnny Valentine and Bruiser Brody.
@@michaelvolgare4454
Indeed IDK why bro would say something like that, Brody's death was outside the ring with an over emotional man who killed him
Pimp Daddy that is so freakin cold!!!! Brody was one of the best ever. Google his matches from Japan, his 1 hour classic with Flair in St Louis in 1986. He was murdered in cold blood 🤧 by a pos and left his wife a widow and his son without a father. No one deserves that.
Frank Goodish was a professional. He did not deserve that.
Good lord. The spit is flying. New camera angle please