David Koresh: The Final 24 (Full Documentary)
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- April 18, 1993. One of the most notorious religious leaders in the United States, David Koresh, and 83 of his followers have been trapped inside their Waco, Texas compound for over 50 days. Unwilling to surrender and surrounded by authorities, the siege is the longest modern-day standoff in American law enforcement history. In 24 hours, however, it will all be over… And Koresh and 73 others will be dead. Featuring archival footage, dramatic reenactments, and key interviews, Final 24 documents the final moments of the infamous preacher’s life.
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this ENTIRE thing could have and SHOULD have been handled so differently
Completely agree. I actually went to the rebuilt church in 2001. Turned out Alex Johns part-funded the service house they built there. Not on the same spot but down toward to road entry
@@potterj09 ppm
Oh well. That's what happens when you associate with psychopaths
tanya-ann alexander-after all the botched fbi gestapo attacts that have plague the fbi since its inception, this shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.
.... by Koresh.
I agree.
So many things went wrong with this and it all could have been avoided. The way David found out was because a reporter figured out what was going to happen and was on his way there before the siege and got lost, so he flagged down a car and asked where mount Carmel was. The man asked him why he wanted to know and he told him about the siege. That man was one of the Branch Davidians and he went back and told Koresh what was going to happen. When the ATF found out that Koresh knew that they were coming (they had an agent on the inside who informed them) they decided to go through with it anyway even though the element of surprise was gone. Another major mistake with the media was when they were getting some of children out during the negotiations. They used the children to try to convince the parents to come out too and when a woman finally did come out, she was arrested and because the media reported on her arrest, the Branch Davidians found out and people stopped leaving. It was a mess from the beginning and it was all a complete failure
The mother is the main cause of his downfall. She is crazy !
I remember this. They could have picked him up in town, or at the bar he frequented or driving down the road. This never had to be a siege. Tragic loss of life.
Arresting David was not why they' were there in Texas. They were there simply to stage a dog .and pony show to show the ATF was still relevant
no a good act to shoot the dog before they go to the door.
Rem it very well too..his is a bunch of be..what about first 50 days..they never had kill all these people
You watch too much TV
He also could have surrendered when he said he would when they allowed his sermon to be aired on a public broadcast. Yeah, the feds may have messed up, but every single death is on Koresh 100%
Back then I believed in the government. Now, I realize what a fool I was.
Same.
You always need a healthy dose of skepticism in life, no matter who you're listening to, particularly "leaders", however you can't completely dismiss gvt...
I was there as a Fire Fighter and Paramedic and they forcibly kept all the fire departments and medics from doing our jobs! Some of us were even "detained" for trying to honor our oaths!
My best friend died there. I will never forget getting told she was died. She was there cause of her parents
@@handysbabygurl so sad may your friend rip and God give you peace
Rescue captain Bob that is so sad and messed up
I'm sorry you have to live with that but bringing out the truth will help, maybe you were there so the truth COULD BE TOLD.
This was something I never understood. The fire trucks were called more than 2 full minutes after the fire had engulfed three points of the structure, and arrived ten minutes later. But weren’t let through the checkpoint for another like 16 minutes? When it had engulfed the entire thing. Why?
If people read the Bible themselves, Jesus said over and over, "
For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many.". It is so sad and disgusting...
When did he say he was God?
Who are we to say he wasn't the voice of christ??
@Speez71rm are you saying that certain individuals are less trustworthy based on their race?
@Speez71rm can you acknowledge that that is both racist and sexist?
@@pghudd sane people lmao
I do feel sorry for the kids who lost their lives
They are the only people to feel sorry for!!!!!
they didnt lose their lives, they were murdered by the government.
The kids are the only ones who I feel sorry for.
@Denise Shephard Don't be foolish....they are ALL Better off dead!
@@edgodsall3740 why is that?? All those adults- they deserved to die in your mind?
What for?
For living different? Believing different? Following David? What crimes did they commit-
What warranted their deaths? Please, do tell!
Looks like somebody eats up whatever the media & government feeds them
Let's not forget that Lon Horiuchi who was an FBI sniper here at Waco, was also the guy who shot and killed Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge.... WHILE SHE WAS HOLDING HER CILD IN HER ARMS.
Oh yes and though the feds didn’t fire a single round on April 19 (yeah, right!!!!!), there were shell casings left in the sniper nest where none other than the upstanding murderous bastard Horiuchi was stationed, firing in the back of the building lowing people down as they tried to flee the raging inferno! And Thibodeaux, you would have been shot had you had the misfortune of trying to exit through the actual remaining exit. The others had all been destroyed first thing that morning. The kids were all dead long before the fire. The tank pumping the CS gas in to the vault for 20 minutes, that took all the children out very effectively and very violently - and I believe this was carried out as planned, the slaughter of those kids, to torment Koresh in their final act of retaliation against him for the loss of the 4 atf and the 20 plus injured. Those kids died torturous deaths.
He's now employed by Troy Firearms.
In the back of the head!
Whether Koresh was crazy or not, the way the FBI handled it was perverted
Yeah gassing a building full of babies and children is a whole new low.
@@memorialled_zeppelin-warew1346 Then what were they to do when girls as young as 10 - 11 were being forced to have sex with him and won’t surrender? They already know they have guns and made grenades and were willing to use them. But no, don’t use tear gas. They were trying to get him to surrender.
@@USMC_Matt0351 kill him not the innocent children
@@memorialled_zeppelin-warew1346 Care to explain how they were to achieve that by not being shot at themselves? CS gas only causes your eyes, throat and lungs to burn and was the best option in hopes of getting them to surrender. Don’t forget we have the advantage of knowing what the outcome would be that day, not the FBI. It’s ridiculous to assume the government intentionally killed them just as much as it is to believe everything the government says. Everyone had a different perception of what was taking place and unless they could read each other’s mind they had no way of knowing what was about to happen. Yes, there are bad people inside the government, but there are also good ones just as there are evil civilians like Vernon Howell.
@@USMC_Matt0351 ... They had plenty of opportunities they didn't have to go in like ww3. Local sherriff was a friend. They're morons
Bottom line is the government failed with this one. No matter how you splice it, they failed to save those children, who, at no fault of their own, were victims of the cult. I think negotiators weren't aware that the leader is living in a non-logical reality, and they must work with the story in his head and not the ones in their own.
Bottom line is that Koresh failed those people by not surrendering when he said he would. 100% on him!
@@amer1canbea5t89 You _clearly_ have no idea what you're talking about.
Same with every other siege on a dissident. It's not about the law. It's about babylon
These are great documentaries I've seen a bunch of them. I love the way they tell the story, go back in time and intertwine with current and interviews. I remember this happening.
I hate it
This document is total shit and one sided. A psychopath made this to convince Normies to blame the victim.
While on long TDY to Waco in 04/05, I rode out to the Branch Davidian compound. There were still people there in the Church. The foundation of the building that burned was still there long since filled in with water. The bus was still there. They had planted trees for the dead. A Father Time looking fellow came out of the Church and talked to us for a couple of minutes and we left. He was very welcoming and nice. I assumed he just wanted to make sure we weren't doing any shenanigans.
Interesting anecdote...
Unbelievable, if they wanted David they had all the chances in the world to get him and not kill others.
Yes you are absolutely right!!
Yup. They used to go on jogs right by the surveillance house.
@@postsingluarity6159 you mean if the cops grabbed him on his jog, his followers with him would get violent?? Get real, a small swat team could have handled that arrest, no problem!
@@postsingluarity6159 People are still being sheep! To the government!
@@postsingluarity6159 It's funny the conspiracy theories are coming true in the case of Waco and now look at what's happening right now with covid! The left is eating their words! Blindly following the government.
When I read these comments I feel proud of you guys for not believing in this propaganda.
28:40 "they inadvertently severe the phone line" yeah righttt lmaooo
She told his first love story like that was something to be proud of 😟
You mean to tell me the FBI couldn't find one individual who knew how to negotiate in Biblical terms? 🤔 huh..
this wasn’t the common christian church
They had a certain group for a reason.
so no of course they wouldn’t know what to say
They had several opportunities to arrest him when he was out and about. This shouldn't have happened!!
Bunch of illiterates. Considering Adventists volunteered for scientific experiments, you'd think they'd take the time to um....read about them???
Exactly ...why didn’t FBI bring in pastors David used to listen to on radio when he was younger or any of the local pastors to talk about his religious views? This could of helped with negotiations and at least saved some lives.
They did and he was removed as being to friendly. The FBI used 19 negotiators so David could never establish much of a dialogue. The Branch Davidians had been there for 60 years before David got there and have rebuilt on the property.
When an Army tank comes through your front door, that’s devastating “- Truer words have never been spoken
@Toma Rogers From my understanding, when this country was founded, the founding fathers put in the Constitution that the Government had >NO right< to dictate How people worshiped! That's why they fled England to begin with!
I can fully agree with that one!
@@owenmclain3327 there's no laws saying people can't own multiple firearms, nor a law against living in the sticks.
The same jerks that murdered the Weavers at Ruby Ridge are the ones that were opening fire at Waco.
@@deirdrepasko9056 yea but there is laws against being a pedophile, and owning fully auto weapons instead of semi auto
The irony is that he paid taxes so the police could do that to him.
Where is LON HORIUCHI the FBI sniper that opened fire at Waco ?
He is also the sniper that shot Vicki Weaver in the head while she was unarmed and holding her baby in her arms at Ruby Ridge.
He was charged with murder by the Idaho state prosecutor but the Federal government gave him immunity from prosecution.
SHAMEFUL
@@donc1546 If so, no reason to fear the Devil...!
Never underestimate the FBI,s ability to turn a bad situation into a disaster!
*massacre
Hahahaha ffs haha
And how do you negotiate with religious lunatics? A no win situation, which is what Koresch wanted.. could they have negotiated with Jim Jones? Or Donald trump?
Or Charles Manson
Never underestimate the ability of religion to turn morally normal people into crazed cult leaders and blind followers
It blows my mind, I watched many many documentaries, and it seems like there's always an English narrator to American events.
NO FR probably has something to do w if it was an american narrator we wouldn’t rlly pay attention
Not to me
Ikr. Like they know America better than Americans. I'm out.
Wrong, we’re actually sophisticated robots. Watch out dear boy.
Really doesn’t sound like an American narrating, unless that is of course what you’re talking about!
You could have arrested David when he was jogging by himself but you decided to destroy everybody in that fire
X pa
@Jerry Lund How did you know I saw him?
@@supermichaelssecondchannel4342 The shop owners all witnessed it, its on record!
The ATF did not know there was gasoline inside the complex. They only wanted people out of the building and were going to tear gas them. They were shooting because of the illegal stockpiling of guns including AK-47s. Koresh had a suicide wish for himself and his cult members.
@@lemsip207 Guns were bought legally, it is not against the law to purchase and own firearms, no matter what the gestapo says, you need to read the book, everything we have been told by the government and media has been a lie, imagine that, BTW the administration of the time was planning an assault weapon ban, every rifle that had a detachable magazine was on it, regardless of number of rounds held they were all banned, everyone who owned a Remington semiautomatic hunting rifle were violating it. What is sad is the fact the government killed those people, they had every opportunity to grab David as he was jogging daily past the house where they had their spy cameras, the jury was denied all video made by the government spies, it was said to have been missing, they were given only what the government wanted them to see to insure the outcome they wanted, a violation of our constitutional laws, we are no longer innocent till proven guilty, we are what the government says we are, nothing more, our rights are gone! You sound like a good serf, a good little sheep, living like a mushroom, in the dark surviving of a steady diet of bullshit!
Couldn't finish watching this. Such a one-way story of how great and concerned and heroic the FBI were. And the smear campaign against Koresh then and now is never ending. I don't know what Koresh was like but I know what the FBI and Media are like. Also, such a smear on the 7th Day Adventists. I've known a lot of Adventists and not one is a cult member but upstanding citizens sharing this society with others who do not think like them with compassion and kindness.
Was anyone in the Government held accountable for the murder of these children?
Nope they are democrats they are never prosecuted that party is criminal nothing but liars and thieves it’s a totalitarian dictatorship.
Of course not! Lol That never happens.
You must be new here
How about david. Did he really think he'd win? How about the brainwashed parents who put their kids in harms way to begin with.
Lmao
they gassed the compound for eight hours straight knowing there were children in there, threatened the mothers, terrorized those people, what a sin
The feds started that fire
The government went full nazi on this one
They targeted the children with that gas pumping it in for over 20 minutes straight, into an unventilated concrete room. The children were murdered torturously with that gas which becomes cyanide under some circumstances and those were present here. They died violently. And then their bodies were further demolished by plastic explosives detonation just above that concrete structure; the mushroom cloud of the explosion is blatantly evident in the footage of the fire. The bodies got so hot from that explosion that they amalgated and many were dismembered by the sheer force of impact from the explosion - for instance Koresh’s eldest son inside there, Cyrus age 8, was dismembered and his cause of death is lifted as smoke inhalation and charring but also listed is possible head trauma. Why? His head was never recovered as it was destroyed in the blast, so it couldn’t be ruled out that he didn’t have head trauma killing him. This is all so disgusting behavior of the godawful federal government and so inexcusable and unpardonable, absolutely unforgivable!
@@heatherbellamy596 I agree. I think the government were far too aggressive, most likely because 15 years earlier in the Jonestown massacre they murdered a congressman.
He (David) would jog around the area right passed a stakeout home repeatedly and they never apprehended him once. Why not.
They did not want that cult to have massive amounts of guns etc..
amazing, and after all these years, most comments here speak louder than the words of david, who rightfully warned us about the army of babylon, still rolling into our homes every day...
Absolutely the old government likes to control us,and if not well you get Waco or RubyRidge death!!They don't want us armed and living in compounds,to hard to round us up.
I watched this unfold on tv. Yes it could have been handled different. To many innocent people died that day.
It’s their fault, this is how rule of law works. When the ATF gets a court approved search warrant and goes to execute the warrant and you shoot at them all bets are off. You are probably going to die. And ontop of that they had 51days of chances to surrender and then started the fire themselves 😂 make it make sense how I should feel bad for these idiots
I remember this. We watched the news everyday hoping the kids would be let out. Still very sad. May they rest in peace
Did the ones that were, the ones that did that... (The fbi and tier gas/shoot at the people) Go to jail? No because they can get away with so much shit, Yet when a guy tries to kill himself (I'm saying guy cause I'm a guy) He goes to jail for suicide attempted instead of getting mental help.
@@drakenpage6776 oh, I know! The government makes others get the blood on their hands and then offers no true assistance
@@WowJustWow37 Ya it's bullshit we shouldn't go to jail for trying to commit suicide, we should go to a mental hospital not jail.
I remember, and I was just a kid.
At one point no one was allowed to come out. They would have been shot on sight. The fake mainstream media told that they refused to come out. The truth is that they were kept imprisoned
That was a cruel massacre in cold blood...
Isn't it curious how they do this kinda stuff to BLACK and WHITE PEOPLE TOO???????!!!!!!1
@@douglasrowland3722 I distinctly remember seeing the documentary 'Rules of Engagement', and in one scene, there is a sign apparently painted onto or hung on the building by the occupants, which read,
"Rodney King: we understand". but so few people have seen the film, let alone that briefly shown slogan, that a lot of you have no idea what I'm talking about (I am not referring to the movie of the same title, w/ actors, which has a story unrelated to Waco).
that david koresch committed. beware of cult leaders... trump.
@@tomitstube Trump was GRRRRRREATTT !!!!!!!
Thanks for the laugh. 8-D
this was a fantastic film...at making excuses for the murderous authorities
Yep!
I wouldn’t blame the ATF directly. I’d blame the system. Not that many people find a career for the right reason. Look at Israel. They say they’re defending their country from the Hamas, except they kill unarmed Palestinians. The only difference between Israel and our government is we don’t have conscription anymore.
Those people had to be stopped. They were armed and dangerous. Their deaths was of their own doing from what it looks like
After hearing his mother, no wonder why he was the way he was
Why
Yeah curious if your interpretation
Amen she's wacko too
Wacko from waco
@@LorenzoMasterConnector what r u talking about?
Man the lies they tell to try and justify their actions are amazing. Right down to saying they lit themselves on fire. SMH
@@sjb3460 Just a heads up. Typing like that makes you look like an actual pyscho.
yeah... youre ignorant to the details like most others.
It was completely proven that the fires were started by the occupants. There are audio recordings of david ordering his subordinates to start the fires. There were video, lab tests and sniffer dogs that identified multiple origin points where they started the fires throughout the building and liquid accelerants were used.
This is all confirmed. you can go find the reports yourself and read it.
Remember, david brainwashed his idiot followers to prepare for the police raid he KNEW was coming. He was kiddy fiddling, buying and selling illegal weapons and stockpiling them specifically to kill police when they eventually came for him.
The fire was PRE PLANNED by the religious maniacs as a last escape. Think about the stupidity of the people who followed him. Men letting him root their own wives and daughters to father children.
Could things have been handled better by police? perhaps, but only through the lens of hindsight. How were the police to know this guy was so insane he had prepared a mass suicide for everyone to escape justice?
@@sjb3460 While I agree with your comment, CS gas training in Basic Training was brutal, but have you or anybody on this comment thread read the Danforth report, the governments final statement on this debacle. Their claim is no CS gas was used. Where did they come up with that?
@@sjb3460
No need for the repeat spraying or spraing paint remover in to the eyes (Paint remover/paint stripper (Have you gone nutz?). A person can just teast with a fresh chilli. Just crush a little with the fingers. Wipe off excess juice and rub an eye a little. The idea is a tiny amout for a managible effect. Your paint stripper is not recommended. Not at all. Just a tiny dab will usully result in temporary sight impairment. Wash off with plenty cool or cold water if need be.
@@sjb3460 Sam, going through training on the use of this gas, we were repeatedly warned not to use it on children or senior citizens, with compromised lungs (COPD etc.), could kill
"extreme psychological tactics" funny way to say torture
I was thinking the same thing.
Funny how none of them thought about shooting up the sound truck with their guns. 51 days . That's not torture it's hell
it's an interesting tactic, drive them to the point of insanity so that it is impossible for them to make a rational decision. Yep drive them crazy then accuse them of being crazy. except for david he was nuttier than a shit house rat and a con man. They should have caught up to him on his own and gave him one behind the ear.
Did the same to the North Vietnamese or VC.. They were superstitious so we played the sounds of wandering spirits, moans, chains and wails, dying voices, voices in Vietnamese calling for their mothers, from boats rigged with loudspeakers throughout the night..
It was exactly the same tactic.
@@mrshelby4682 I'm Irish tell me about it...the EU doing it now. I haven't seen my family for 3 years. I book to go home for Paddy's day...shut down. Now til December..same s*** different people. Godbless everyone
@@eibhlinnichrualoai Yeah.. this 'pandemic' had such an effect as to change our criminal courts' disposition on jailing people. Not so long ago, they would lock you under the jail for possession of marijuana, now, they release kids onto house arrest who suffer from escalating methamphetamine addictions, and eventually like my only brother did this past February, they get themselves killed.. My brother, was 25, shot 3 times for having an unloaded handgun in his possession, died in a gas station parking lot surrounded by strangers.. they'd arrested and put him on house arrest, 3 times in the last year and a half, and each time they never even came to check up on him after he cut the bracelet.. He was hard headed, but you only really come to realize how much of your life you've wasted in your late 20's..... i'm 32 myself. Spent half my life trying to reach my little brother, he would listen but was, independent.. No real danger to anyone but himself. I told him "don't go and get yourself killed, little brother, one day it will be just you and I left, and I'm gonna need you.. we're gonna need each other. You don't need 'friends'.. you don't need 'money', if you have to risk it all to get it.. just stick around and you never know what the tide might bring.. find yourself back in a smoking lounge one day with ice in your glass.." ... It takes a village though, and we got ourselves a deathly ill village, right now.. and not because of the 'rona.
Because of the complacency and corruption we've allowed to take hold, in the world.
God be with you as well.. with us all.
From what I heard, Koresh went for a walk every evening, and also drove into town to buy things. They should have kept surveillance on him and arrested him outside the home. I'm sure they later realized this after several of their agents and people inside the cult building were killed.
well that's no fun
@@basishub why
Agreed
Yes they could have done that, but Koresh also could have surrendered and ended all of it before anyone perished!
@@amer1canbea5t89 Well observed! Like raped females shouldn't dress like that... Thanks for your contribution
"What the ATF did not understand was"........ to not start shooting the second David stepped out of his door maybe? What was this, a botched hit!?
I totally agree ! Maranatha !
WHAT IF IT WAS ''BOTCHED'' DELIBERATELY ????
@@douglasrowland3722 probably was. the military is infested with sickos!
How do you know that's what happened?
@@stumarston6812 How do YOU know it DIDN'T ???????
I was babysitting the morning the FBI made the final attack. It sure looked like they started the fire with that tank that was poking into the building. The person I was sitting for and I watched with horror as the fire broke out and we watched a few people come out and be immediately arrested. The part that is the worst to me is that Koresh was known by the FBI to make trips into Waco every day either by himself or with one or two other people. They should have arrested him then, rather than attack the compound, which fed into the paranoid belief of the members that they were going to be attacked by the govt. There was no reason for the attack on the compound, except the ATF wanted to show militia groups, which were quite prominant then, that the govt was not going to put up with the illegal gun sales and collection. If they had arrested him away from the compound, the followers would have been lost without him. THAT was the govt's big mistake.
"They should have arrested him then, rather than attack the compound, which fed into the paranoid belief of the members that they were going to be attacked by the govt."
Not such a paranoid belief after all, was it?
After what happened, i'm not so sure if 'paranoid believes' is really the accurate term to use..
100% agree!!!
Its been proven that armoured vehicle did NOT start the fire. There was extensive investigations and you can read it yourself. Many areas were lit by the occupants called "points of origin", there is an audio recording of david ordering them to start the fires and lab tests and sniffer dogs were used to identify liquid accelerants that were used.
Also, there WAS a reason to raid the compound. If you nab david externally and the rest of the religious lunatics hear about it, the fear he has been drumming into them is confirmed regardless, then you have an entire building of paranoid, armed lunatics WAITING for the police. The point is to surprise raid and grab david and the illegal weapons they had been PURPOSFULLY stockpiling to attack police should they come. david KNEW they would come eventually once they found out about the kids he was molesting among other things.
He was a maniac, and his brainwashed idiots were not much better.
The gun fight and the ending fire were PRE PLANNED by david and some of his most devoted followers.
Was it handled perfectly? no. But how exactly do you treat a bunch of brainwashed, paranoid religious maniacs who are sitting on a stockpile of guns and have already shot and killed police?
Most of what people think could have been done better is pure hindsight, and usually based on ignorance of details.
@@jkenwell Not at all. They feared an army coming to take them and then an army came took them. The government really screwed this one up beyond belief.
The fbi approached this in a poor manner. I believe they are at fault for the people and children who died in this tragedy
No, RELIGION is to blame - religion made Koresh go completely insane, and dozens of lives were lost, or f'ed up for life.
Their parents are also at fault for putting them in harm ways...
" my greatest fear was that he would have a secret David koresh tunnel" 😂😂
The Fact that his mother was okay with him sleeping with a 13/14 speaks volumes… She to was a young teen pregnant by a 19yr old
The south is different. They don’t see things the same. The girls seemed to give themselves willingly, nobody was raped.
@@luxetveritas4633 It's called Statutory Rape and its a crime. 14 years old is not old enough to consent. As a person from the south, 18 is where the limit is, and everyone I know agrees with that.
@@badkarma2761 yes I understand that but from pictures she didn’t look abused or unhappy. It doesn’t look like she was mistreated.
@@luxetveritas4633 give it another 10 years. I’m sure there was lots of therapy and trauma. Just because you can’t “see” it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
@@TheCarolinaCannonball that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation taking place. They were in Texas. Not Georgia.
They can call him what they want, he may have been the Devil incarnate..... fact is, he went jogging most days down the road, he went into town regularly, they could have apprehended him on any of those days without incident. They chose to create this fiasco. The government soldiers who attacked that doomed compound are responsible for those childrens' deaths, they knew they would not take him alive. It could have been done in a civilized way and they chose to ignore that route.
Yep they wanted their propaganda piece of saving lots of kids while recovering lots of illegal guns - they wanted to put on a show because at that time there was talk of dismantling the atf especially after the botched Ruby Ridge fiaco!
The parents who took their kids there are also responsible, they put these kids in harm ways by joining a cult...
The movie "ambush at Waco" was unbelievable as a kid it scared the crap out of me, I've just watched it on UA-cam now 🙂
If I’m not mistaken, that is the film made by nbc I want to say, with the conclusion filmed before the siege had come to its conclusion. The director tried to change it after the fact, but there was no allowance for modification to the screenplay as it had been submitted - which involved the people inside the building lining up armed to the teeth firing machine guns out indiscriminately through the walls at the FBI agents outside. Couldn’t be further from the truth but in this situation the truth has never carried much weight or importance because the government made itself the lone source of information from that event the duration of the whole entire siege. Daily press releases provided by the fbi were the only source of news of the siege, so the government invented and created the narrative and it was of course wrought with lies, the most egregious lies.
That was when I first heard of him. At first, I thought of this as a religious hypocrisy after learning what they say about Koresh being a child molester. I’m so sick of the Islamophobia.
Anyway, after hearing about the unrest at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, I started thinking about this and called it “Palestine’s Waco”. 🕌🇵🇸
High politicians responsible for murdering all those men, women and children should've been brought to court.
The government botched this and Ruby ridge!
Botched? This is what government is.
No, the gov't didn't blow it, JESUS blew it for creating such an insane religion that people could interpret it's insane teachings in such incredibly bizarre ways.
@@dude999642 religions are created by men! That’s what makes them flawed!
The lead FBI guy from ruby ridge held the same position at Waco
@@dude999642 The government DEFINITELY blew it. All parties are wrong here. Koresh broke the laws, but there was NO reason for the government to act the way they did. End of story
History tells a very mixed story. I heard testimony that he regularly went jogging outside of the compound. There were suspicions about the government's tactics even as it was unfolding. The best people to ask are the survivors.
Yes absolutely… you can compare and contrast the survivors of Waco and Jonestown, Jonestown survivors being very negative about Jones, Waco survivors definitely not always completely loving towards David but definitely not blaming him for what happened and overall having a more positive perception
Why would anyone trust the word of extremist cultists?
41:46 I'm a shitty person for laughing but "Mr. Retardo was running the show" is such a funny sentence
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David Koresh and the Davidians sounds like a band
Well, he was a musician, after all.
Apparently someone's not paying attention to this specific video. Or christianGill in comments who supports this cult hahaha
They were a band. And dejacavu you have no idea what you’re talking about
You know Madman Living in Waco is actually a pretty good song, it is on YT.
Vernon H & The Crispy Davidians
my husband knew Vernon Howell when he was a teenager..they went to a dairy queen to eat, "david' had his Bible and guitar with him, he sat the guitar outside on a newspaper stand, he was arrogant saying it was safe, well it was stolen and vernon went into a rage. Also the first girlfriend breakup drove him even more crazed...he constantly berated people with the Word of God with a angry demeanor....he was a very volatile and could be considered a danger. My husband told vernon's mother about how unstable he was...but it feel on deaf ears, she was his mother and protective of him but she had fear too. this was in Saxy, Tx..just outside of Dallas. When the news broke on TV about Waco.....my husband wasn't shocked, he even thought about talking to the Atf/fbi to offer any help.....We had just had our first child...I said stay away from this...we prayed for those people to Please send out the all the children....but My husband knew early on that this wasnt going to end well. It was heartbreaking, and strange to see this guy go on for days...on TV day after day. This guy was a danger from the get go. A control freak and a fraud. yes he could resight the Bible at will, even as a young teen he did it constantly.
This sounds so much more realistic than what all these people are trying to portray. The type of guy that would sleep with a 70 year old woman, literally take the wives of other men in his cult, have 12 children with multiple women at the same time is not someone that's stable. It's a sign of a very disturbed man. Yet this comment section just focuses on how the big bad govt was picking on the poor innocent Christian man.
@@ispartacus1337 not poor, innocent, not Christian. When you only read out of Revelations and twist the Bible to fit a narrative of control over others there isn’t a chance in the world he could, would, or should be qualified in the category of Christianity
How the ATF and the FBI could drive tanks into the heart of a structure that contains dozens of kids is mind-boggling. Even the tear gas was a bad idea. They acted like there were no kids in there at all.
Maybe you should have told the ppl who had KIDS not to put THEM in harms way
@BLAX- STACCZ Nobody is saying they weren't engaging in criminal activity, and they definitely put those kids in harms way, but it was the Feds that took the actions that killed them, not the Branch Davidians. The Feds were the ones that sealed the fates of those innocents. And it's not like they didn't have all the information, they absolutely did yet they still made these horrendous decisions. Again, it's mind boggling.
And how would they NOT put them in harms way exactly?? You do realise that was their home. Nobody is going to separate themselves from their kids at home. You're a clown. Plain and simple@@BLAX832
Fascinating piece of fiction, does keep hope alive that maybe someday these victims might see justice, given these works of.fiction keep coming out
Yes indeed
Yeah this story is from the Feds point of view. Last man standing gets to write the history book
Yes the winners write history but David did get some amazing words on. True to his word David started writing the meaning to the 7 seals. They agreed to let him finish it but like their past pattern they burned them alive instead. He did finish the first seal before he died and you can read it on line. The poem is amazing and it speaks volumes for David koresh. Made me wonder if he could talk to gods. LOL
Government used sleep deprivation tactics including shining spotlights on them and playing audio of rabbits being killed...Imagine doing that to innocent kids and women and acting like it's the right thing
Not to mention playing Nancy Sinatra. That's cruel and unusual.
And they drove tanks into the building, and filled it up with flammable CS gas. In nearly every major instance where this has been used, fire and deaths, are the result.
The tanks crushing through parts of the buildings blocked off exits to the room where many of the women and children were, it was then filled with cs gas, killing many, those that survived were burned alive. This is what the authorities did.
It’s FkD. All of it.
The PSYOP tactics are honestly the least of what the Feds did to those kids. They were gassed and burned alive by a freaking tank.
If the Israelis try to play the freaky sound to get me out cause my parents are looking for me, it would be real cool if that it sounded like Godzilla. Better yet, Baltan from Ultraman.
This guy was a good singer and guitar player.
In some scenes here (the newer ones), Koresh was portrayed by the actor John Tokatlidis who really looked liked him. Koresh seems to look like Eric Bana and Dave Gahan, too.
The police fired first cmon let's not lie. That man went out of the house with no weapon
Were you there?
@@putler965 no but many others were. 👋
@@somersfamily Of course the Davidians will claim the ATF fired first. And the ATF will say the opposite.
@@putler965 The ATF did fire first. They killed all the dogs outside. It was shown in one of the earliest TV media reports.
@@tonyprice2256 Really? Perhaps you can cite to these media reports.
The authorities should of just picked up Koresh when he came to town instead of storming a well armed compound.
IF he was guilty, great; he got what he deserved. The only and MAJOR issues were:
1) He was not given the opportunity for a trial in a court of law.
2) He was (allegedly) targeted for an assassination as opposed to legal detention and a trial.
3) many innocent men, women and children were shot at, gassed, and trapped in a building that was demolished with explosives and raging fires. They were shot at anytime they were seen attempting to escape the demolition and fires.
They were cut off from speaking to the media. Why?
You can't negotiate with people who are not afraid of death. Faith is so powerful. For the good and the bad.
For many people ''believing'' is a LAW....Often, that is in error........
Everyone is going to die in time. What do YOU want to negotiate.
I cannot t wrap my mind around the people, including his own mother who STILL think HE will rise again and that his children will also rise again, as his mother said. Wacko.
They will rise again...to stand in front of the Creator...SO WILL I.....SO WILL YOU.....for better or for worse..........js.............
@@douglasrowland3722 Yeah right. I’m just here because we have a similar problem with the Israeli government at the Al-Aqsa Mosque 🕌 🇵🇸🇺🇸
Goodness this was hard to watch. Good information put into a weird format jumping all over the place instead of just telling the story chronologically as it should have. I get the “24 hours” schtick but it’s really hard to absorb information presented this way.
What a tragedy! There has to have been a better way…. Poor children.
I can never forgive the FBI and ATF and Janet Reno for the cold -blooded massacre of the innocent children.
No that's was good reno sent them burnt them to hell they all sinners
What about the lunatics who put the kids in that situation to begin with
@@glennarcher6 I agree. Them too. But our government had no right to do what they did. The guns weren't threatening anyone.
@@glennarcher6 have you ever heard of the Jonestown massacre? 908 to 918 were killed following someone they truly believed loved them. If you haven’t heard about it I really recommend you look it up. Jim Jones really brainwashed all those people. Its easy to criticize from the outside looking in.
@@Chick_N_A_Flick yeah I've watched docos and listened to a podcast of it. Jim Jones was a lunatic
If you can say "sure, he married children, but if you believe it's the will of God, you don't question it", you're not asking the right questions.
If you don't know that child marriage, while vile in my opinion, with parental consent is completely legal in al but a handful of states (even today) then you need to brush up your reading list.
@@voiceofreason1208 Yep! Im one of 23 Took me decades to escape! LDS/FLDS/RLDS
@@voiceofreason1208 yeah that's disturbing I'm not sure how it exactly works but I've seen stuff about this
Isn't it time the laws changed
@@aandreaaaa legal at some point but isn't there some laws about married to minors that's truly worrying
Just because you don`t agree with some people faith or way of life was no reason for them to slaughter those people the way they did. The man came out unarmed and they started shooting. Then lied and covered up their wrong doing and botched raid.
We are reaching this online in several channels hereby, where people self proclaim themselves prophets and they truly believe in that as they have followers so it's becoming dangerous to society for real.
"we didnt nail him on a cross. we burned him too the ground"....wow
Where was this?
@@donodom3 the very last sentence
Probably got what he wanted
Disturbing, huh?
Waco Texas
They could have snatched him while jogging, but then they wouldn't have gotten to use their big tank toys.
Crazy how there was a film crew inside getting all that footage
The reporters on the
scene alerted Koresh of the impending raid. That’s why he killed everyone. I felt so sorry for those helpless kids.
They're so quick to blame the victims and not the victors
When someone says, "I am the Son of God"..., that's a clue to run. Amazing how many people follow folks like him, and are willing to die for HIS beliefs....
💯 % agree! So many brainwashed individuals, thats why those kids died
I AM THE SON OF GOD !!!
We are ALL children of God.
why didn't he turn surrender.
Whenever someone asks you if your a god, "You say YES". Ghostbusters.
47:25 he just tucking admits to starting the fire!
“We didn’t nail him to the cross, we burnt him to the ground” WOW
It's also on film. The tank started the fires. People can see the FLIR footage for themselves.
@@clicheguevara5282 FLIR footage shows the fire starting in three different places. The FBI was not at the two other locations.
I remember this. Very sad indeed
I was in the sixth grade when they showed this on PUBLIC TELEVISION, and yes our TEACHER'S let us watch it! We probably didn't take it any further than that moment ik I didn't , but wow what this freak done and so many prior to him and after him tried and maybe even succeeded in doing is mind blowing ???? 🤷♀️🤔
1) The Dividians didn't break any gun laws as the ATF alleged in their warrant.
2) ATF shot first and The Dividians simply defended themselves.
3) Koresh and the children didn't die in the fire.
4) Koresh and the children were shot to death by ATF to avenge the 4 slain ATF officers.
The authorities didn't really give much indication that they intended to be fair and honest if David tried to have any dealings with them. They DID have opportunities to arrest him: been said.
Right..
Sure dude.
All that shit is did to the children though doesn’t matter?
God will punish these devil servants like fbi and atf Rip David Koresh the best
@@arjanpetersen He IS right.
This should always be looked at by law enforcement, as a way of how NOT to do it! They had several opportunities to arrest Koresh in town, and we're made aware of it and given the chance
again before all this. But no! The cops wanted a big show and have a big dramatic takedown, but what they got was a showdown instead and didn't count on that or them being able to shoot pretty good.
They didn't arrest him in town because the man had broken no law!!!!
There will always be a defensive showdown, we have been warned several times.
This was not about arresting him . This was a message to Americans. The message was that the US government will murder you and your children if you step out of line
I don’t know… but you are insane.
@@akizmetkat999 00
Holy crap that camera man was everywhere!
Sad, sounds like Koresh could've potentially been someone very positive at one time. Very tragic.
The criminal mainstream media lied about David Koresh, just like they lied about Randy Weaver, and just like they lied about what really happened on 9/11 2001, and just like they lied more recently about Covid-19 and just like (((they))) lie about everything! The mainstream media is a CRIMINAL organization that has been actively covering up every major crime for more than the past century!
So, the feds were shocked at Koresh buying and selling guns? The ATF SOLD him a federal firearms license so he could legally sell guns. CS "gas" isn't a gas at all. It's a finely powdered chemical irritant dissolved in Acetone, and relies upon the high volatility of the Acetone to quickly evaporate into the air and dry the powder so it can be carried on the slightest changes in air currents within the building. The flash bang grenades that FBI launched into the buildings after detonating the CS grenades would have ignited the very air within those buildings. FBI had to know this would happen and deliberately allowed every man, woman and child burn to death in retaliation for the deaths of 4 ATF agents. Fun fact: the defense contended that the agents may have accidentally shot one another, and asked to examine the bullets removed from their bodies. ATF agents were using a 10mm "cookie cutter" bullet that was custom built by US Govt armories, and unavailable to civilians. At the request of prosecutors, the judge refused the request.
Wasn’t one of the ATF disarmed by Koresh? I saw the Paramount+ series.
@@eaglesfan226 I've not heard this--wasn't in any news stories at the time. It was reported that Koresh was shot in the abdomen when ATF officers came to the door, and accidentally discharged one of their weapons...
The Asain woman is speaking like she was on the outside and she knew what he was up to. She was a follower and was sucked right in herself. Take responsibility !
So true. I don't think the FBI started the fire not purposely I was not there but they did not know what they were doing. Blame all around
@@timmekaamerson147 The ATF were there first. Supposedly they sprayed the dogs with fire extinguisher. As we have seen in recent days law enforcement shoot dogs on a regular basis. Those shots to kill the dogs probably caused the Davidians to fire.
@@anthonyruiz7925 they shot the dogs with guns,,,not fire extinguishers.
There is multiple people who were actually there ATF, FBI, branch davidians and others from all sides that have said what actually happened. All pointing fingers at atf firing first. If you really can look at all the facts and think your government didn’t do wrong that just shows how brainwashed they have society. The government is the worst and biggest gang in recorded history.
Ive seen a lot of Waco documentaries and different perspectives with many names reappearing (Clive Doyle, Byron Sage, David Thibz)
Never seen Dana Okimoto before.
RIP to everyone who UNNECESSARILY lost their lives that day. When ANY man claims to be a God when your around, do yourself a great favor. Run. And never look back.
So sorry but he never said he was god. He said he was the messiah. I looked it up and he was right. It reads a leader or savior of a particular group. I’d say he qualifys.
The absolute truth is that if the Davidians had been left alone to practice their religion the way they wanted no one would have died and a religious group would be alive to carry on with their lives.
ya....they were gathering up arms of mass destruction and taking target practice because they were peaceful
THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED
"Mr. Retardo was now running the show"
Something about that line made me chuckle
Yeah, that was oddly funny.
RIP to all the kids an innocent victims who perished that day.What a corrupt government.
And now it's worse!
And also violent and abusive pedophile cult leaders.**
Yeah, Koresh had NOTHING to do with it.
Got it.
Next time there's a f*cking cultist rapist pedophile, we'll all know you're on the side of the rapist pedophile.
Thanks for identifying yourself as an enemy of kids and the innocents.
@@jeffbaer5851
Yea not saying koresh wasn’t a rapist or a monster but the government could have handled totally different!!!
It(Government) hasn't got any wiser with age, sadly
very sad may the kids rest in peace
This is the best documentary on the Branch Davidians that I have seen. I heard he locked disobedient people in their rooms and only gave them water and bread.
Notice at the end, "We burned him to the ground". Interesting admission after stating you didn't start the fire.
Technically they made humanity a favor, was it their fault that his followers ere brainless zombies? I'm just sad for the kids who had no word neither ability or capacity to decide. Think that they had weapons and this was a cult of braiwashed people in hands of lunatic, FBI can't read mind neither see the future.
For all they knew the lunatic one day could have snaped out like in Jonestown and said take this weapons and go to that city and start killing the ''ufaitfull''. I just don't get why they had to do it that day and maybe stop and think about another plan to get him without casualities, were they pressured to get him?
@@LifeInPink999 So you say kill all people you do not agree with ? Who cares if innocent children goes down the drain, you do not like them, so kill them all.
I think he should have been locked up for grooming and making young girls pregnant, not make him a martyr.
@@LifeInPink999 The prosecutor would not prosecute the case against Koresh UNLESS the warrant was served with force. They didn't have to do this. Koresh went in to town frequently, and jogged in front of the ATF surveillance house across the street almost daily. Koresh had invited the ATF to the their home to examine the firearms and the legal documents they had to prove their legitimacy. And I too feel bad for the kids. Many of whom succumbed to CS gas pumped into an enclosed space that was legally only allowed to be used on adults (not children) in an outdoor (not indoor) environments. All praise to the FBI and ATF though, right?
@@LifeInPink999 his followers is like trump cult followers
@@flobekoe They say that there is always one dumbass in the group. Thanks for proving it.
She hit a 6 month old with a paddle until it bled? Wtf? How could a baby misbehave? They can't even talk yet.
Lies
@Black lives Matter youre trolling lol
You can hear the hate, the bias and the tone of the propaganda in the narrator's voice. THIS is why people hate the media.
Omdg that's is absolutely shocking.. surely there was another way of doing this without harming the innocent 😮
The FBI set the fire ablaze.
WELL BURN ME DOWN !!!!!!!.......(Hey !.......I'm not Popeye....)
Bullshit. There's audio of the Davidians setting it.
A member in another interview said he heard a male voice from inside the house say to light the gas that another male had already doused the floors with.
It's true in the original video you can see the tank smashing the inside of the building then fire shooting from the tank I'm not on david keresh side he was wrong but so was the fbi booth sides got those kids killed.
Actually, the court did this to themselves. Both sides are at fault. This should never happened, if David Koresh didn’t hear voices in his head
The ATF got their asses kicked so they burnt the kids they were supposed to save.
They could have literally just left them be and let them come out eventually one day but they couldn't take anyone thinking that they aren't in charge
President Ronald Reagan said the scariest words you can ever hear is , we are the government and we are here to help
David's young child was playing in the yard when the ATF pulled up and they murdered his son in the first burst of gun fire.
@@donc1546disgusting of you.
The mother who talks about how she abused her child....honestly I can't feel anything but disgust for her beating her infant ...she shouldn't have custody of a child she was willing to sacrifice to the devil
Thousands of kids in USA neglect, abuse, murder used as social & religious pawns! Often by their own family
Its called discipline, the lack of it is why kids are so shitty and have false senses of entitlement
I wonder about you believing it.
FluxFist she was physically disciplining a 6-month old infant. That's abuse. An infant that age has zero comprehension of right/wrong and no ability to make a decision. Physical discipline is just wrong at that age.
@@fluxfist6920 a spanking is whatever, sure, a little young but you can excuse the naïvety. Beating the kid until he bleeds is another story. You know how hard you have to _paddle_ someone to make them bleed? What she did has nothing to do with the other Davidians, she was just weirdly aggressive towards her kids.
The newest mini series about this explains how the head ATF guy didn’t want to negotiate basically all the innocent people that died their blood is on his hands. The media as a teen wanted you to believe a narrative even as a teen I knew this wasn’t right. Evils of government that will forever go unpunished.
Not Forever
Where can I hear the whole song about the madman living in Waco sung by Koresh?😮