This is possible using the mods AutoToot by TomDotBat (github.com/TomDotBat/AutoToot/ ) and Circular Breathing by Christoffyw. Now you can hear all the mistakes I made when making this map. 👍
@@tako-sensei6072 Personally I’d love even more accurate maps because in its own way that’s almost funnier But yeah, either way it’s still hilarious Even the damn pitch bender can’t keep up with this map
The fact that theres a circular breathing mod can only mean one thing: its only a matter of time before the 300000 note song that is in clone hero gets ported here, even If for only one pitch.
Can triple vouch: my firstborn son is a trombone and i am married to a wonderful trombone wife. We are expecting a half trombone half human daughter soon
I don't know much about this game, but I think some of the notes might be overlapping, making it difficult to hit all the notes without making mistakes. I also thing there are some sections where it seems a bit too crowded with notes, but that's just my opinion.
@@JohnnyGF_ yeah I'm pretty sure that they do. Like a lot seem to overlap. Which of course adds to the fun of the chart being physically impossible to get totally correct.
4:47 dead from this point onward into all the solos, that started as just Super Mario Striker's Birdo's getting electrocuted (if you've never played it, search Super Mario Strikers Birdo Voice Clips and then 0:16) 😅😂😂😂
@@socksygen also doesn’t help that a ton of the notes are just wrong. Like not even in the guitar parts that are hard to track or just fun to fuck with, but the melody just isn’t right lots of the time. Anyone who knows how the melody should sound will miss all of those without otherworldly discipline.
@@jobriq5 the pinned comment mentioned a mod he used to remove the breath meter. (Which matches, since I didn’t see the breath meter show up on any notes)
typical through the fire and flames song, being charted in a way that you are playing far more than is reasonably expected. in guitar hero you are basically playing the parts of 2 or 3 guitars and here you are expected to play the lyrics and the guitar parts. never ceases to overwhelm people. 10/10
@@Shizkeb Ok.... More likes means he/she is right I guess. XD If you say so. "Dragonforce is garbage now" Now? I again kinda agree bc I love their old stuff better.
Although this TAS run is fascinating, there was something special, something human about the original run. As we are all human, perhaps perfection is not preferable to error
While this was nice to listen to, the human version was fun all throughout the 7 minutes, I was enjoying it more. The desperate toots and the player tooting to the song playing in their head because the map was too fast was so good
I'm always amused at the absolute insanity that gets ported into every rhythm game in existence, there are some out there for Clone Hero that I wouldn't even be able to reach 1% in lol.
I see that even with the circular breathing mod, it is still impossible to get a perfect because some notes overlap. I think I have devised a solution for this, however. *Clearly, we need a two trombones at once mod.*
I don't know the mechanics of the game, but instruments generally require a lead up before the note to drive the instrument. With a piano it's the hammer, a trombone air, a drum, ya know, the drumstick. It's that anticipation of a note that allows makes it on time. I don't think it'll help here, but quite rad you took the time to make a tat. I can't wait to see one of flight of the bumble bee.
The song really loses something, some hidden quality or aspect of it, when played by a computer. You could say the very essence of playing it on a trombone, I suppose, gets taken away when you remove the human struggle. The dynamic of suffering changes. With this artificial instrumenteer, this automaton of slide and brass, this 'boning machine, if you will, only the listener suffers. But with a mere mortals hands upon the 'bone, the suffering is mutual, and increased for both parties.
the fact that the bot is having trouble and actually lost it streak just goes to show that this song is HARD! 2:16 , 4:10 , 4:19 , 4:22 , 4:30 , 5:28 , 5:31 , 6:07 , 6:09 , 7:13 - 7:17 are the times the bot is failing due to human error in the making of the map and or the difficulty of the reaction time that it responds to which is faster than it can react to.
The game has different samples for different notes, and then pitch shifts the note you play as you slide up and down, so it can sound pretty off if you go ham on it.
Also, this rendition of the song is made just to troll the player, since it has a slide too long to be made successfully, random extra and/or missing off-beat notes, gratuitous jumps across the screen just to fuck with you
If even the bot is failing to perfect run this then theres only one thing i can say. If you can play Through the fire and flames then you are officially a legend. In any instrument.
I love how it still sounds off even when played right. Like the Trombone can replace no instrument, and no instrument can be replaced by trombone. Only really sounds good with pieces written for it.
For those wondering why even the bot can’t FC it, a big part of it is because the final vibrato lasts longer than the player’s breath meter. If somehow we developed tech to bypass this, there’s still the problem of some notes being so precise that they overlap. So even though the final vibrato can be done by playing on a higher speed, the overlapping notes that are barely possible on normal speed would absolutely become impossible. An additional part of this is just the way the bot is programmed. I’m sure it can be optimized to search for notes before the current one ends rather than searching for another note the frame the current note ends like it seems it does now.
Having arranged this for trombone for a section leader audition a few years ago Im surprised at how similar some of the parts ended up being (obv the solos were a bit different)
This is possible using the mods AutoToot by TomDotBat (github.com/TomDotBat/AutoToot/ ) and Circular Breathing by Christoffyw.
Now you can hear all the mistakes I made when making this map. 👍
literally impossible 🤣🤣
no wayyy finally an auto mod
I feel like mistakes in this game aren't problematic though, since the entire Idea is comedic anyway.
@@tako-sensei6072 Personally I’d love even more accurate maps because in its own way that’s almost funnier
But yeah, either way it’s still hilarious
Even the damn pitch bender can’t keep up with this map
This is a good tool for future modding I guess
Not even close to the masterpiece that was when you covered it.
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The first movie was better
I read the manga.
@@Bill_Cipher1995 I read the web comic.
I read the unedited novel
The fact that theres a circular breathing mod can only mean one thing: its only a matter of time before the 300000 note song that is in clone hero gets ported here, even If for only one pitch.
CarnyJared’s 1 million note FC in Trombone Champ pls
waiting patiently for soulless 4 tromboned
@@valerium730 me too...
MEGALODON IN TROMBONE CHAMP
What song is it?
I like with the wireframe you can tell how much higher poly the trombone is than the player. Priorities.
Trombone fact: Trombones are higher poly than humans IRL
@@musicsheep9816 Can vouch, I am a trombone
@@Juanni Can double vouch, my cousin who is a clarinet was friends with someone who knew a trombone back in junior high.
Can triple vouch: my firstborn son is a trombone and i am married to a wonderful trombone wife.
We are expecting a half trombone half human daughter soon
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 Did you stick your dick in a trombone? That’s epic.
Even the TAT couldn't nail it all. TTFAF is truely a song that keeps on giving
truly*
No need to thank me
@@fernando47180 we won't
@@fernando47180 based spellchecker chad
You mean TAT?
You mean TAT?
Tromboner played so fast the animation was reduced to a single frame
Simply perfection as one may put it.
Skill
Tromboner
Ha
Tromboner has transcended the need for animation
Pfft hehehe
Someone needs to make a mod that stops the trombone from maxing its pitch at one octave above the starting note so that this chart can be truely heard
Maybe a real trombone can't go any higher?
@@Bill_Cipher1995 it definitely can lmao
@@emmer2919 Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.
@@Bill_Cipher1995 The highest note is a C5. I can play higher.
@@5PctJuice Well, did you know that Marta can hit A above high C? That's pretty impressive; not many singers can do that.
“Tool assisted trombone” has just been added to my vocabulary and I’m more than ok with it
Well now I'm CONVINCED that a full combo is just outright impossible if even the bot can't do it.
Bot made (at least) 10 mistakes - if anyone nailed it, it might be humanity's greatest achievement...
I don't know much about this game, but I think some of the notes might be overlapping, making it difficult to hit all the notes without making mistakes. I also thing there are some sections where it seems a bit too crowded with notes, but that's just my opinion.
@@JohnnyGF_ yeah I'm pretty sure that they do. Like a lot seem to overlap. Which of course adds to the fun of the chart being physically impossible to get totally correct.
If they're overlapping, then there's a hypothetical perfect score still and I'm sure someone's gonna get it within like 6 months
@@dianauwu1312 male
even the autotoot still made 283 non perfect notes, this chart truly transcends possibility
Perfecto*
there should be an AutoToot+ made that can hit charts like this better
Even the TAobama fails lol
TAT. Do not include the speedshitters in this.
@@HarambaeXelonmuskfans no reason to get mad bro
@@appleyapple9019 youtube commenter detect joke challenge (impossible)
Goes to show how brutal trombone champ is when it comes to keeping a combo
@@HarambaeXelonmuskfans wtf does TAT even mean?
also TAS can also mean Tool Assisted Superplay in some rare occasions like this one
it's impressive to see a real person play this, but it's also very enjoyable to listen to this perfect version
It's cool to hear the Trombone sounding goood.
It's not even perfect despite a literal bot playing it.
@@n833u3 No Trombone Player could hope to achieve the power necessary to properly play this song... or so I believe.
@@ryanhernandez8324 You severely underestimate actual trombone players.
that was auto-toot
I can't stop laughing because the slides notes at 5:30 sounds like the sfx of Mario going through pipes 😂😂😂
I thought of pac-man
It’s intentional
4:47 dead from this point onward into all the solos, that started as just Super Mario Striker's Birdo's getting electrocuted (if you've never played it, search Super Mario Strikers Birdo Voice Clips and then 0:16) 😅😂😂😂
@@tylerhardy901 I hear it!
Whoever can actually manage like a close FC to this song is actually a fucking god
They're the real trombone champ
@@DJ.The.Tiger25 The true Tromboner
Maybe if a version gets redone with better syncing. Can't imagine anyone doing this with the janky timing in some parts
@@socksygen also doesn’t help that a ton of the notes are just wrong. Like not even in the guitar parts that are hard to track or just fun to fuck with, but the melody just isn’t right lots of the time. Anyone who knows how the melody should sound will miss all of those without otherworldly discipline.
@@joemarais7683 The reason the melody is wrong in a lot of places is because trombone champ is limited to one octave
I like how if you do too much pitch bending too quickly the trombone just stops keeping up
I was waiting for a tas version but didn't expect it so soon, nor did I expect the bot to fail so badly
@@jobriq5 the pinned comment mentioned a mod he used to remove the breath meter. (Which matches, since I didn’t see the breath meter show up on any notes)
@@chrayez nope. Just makes it circular like the BotW stamina bar
typical through the fire and flames song, being charted in a way that you are playing far more than is reasonably expected. in guitar hero you are basically playing the parts of 2 or 3 guitars and here you are expected to play the lyrics and the guitar parts. never ceases to overwhelm people. 10/10
How many parts would you have to split this into to make it reasonable, do you think?
I think that's part of the point - to make something that's a ridiculous challenge to play
@@1TW1-m5i I mean, isnt TTFAF *already* an ridiculous challenge?
Funny how it just becomes a MIDI file
...Wait, are you telling me DragonForce doesn't write all of their songs on a Roland? Because they all sound _exactly the same._
@@CoralCopperHead Who cares how they write them? I'd love to hear your songs. Do you have a band?
Bc I kinda agree but I still love Dragonforce.
@@Nickoji that guy has more likes than you so I guess he’s absolutely right, dragonforce is garbage now
@@Shizkeb Ok.... More likes means he/she is right I guess. XD If you say so.
"Dragonforce is garbage now" Now? I again kinda agree bc I love their old stuff better.
@@Nickoji when I mean now I mean I used to like it but now that I’ve seen his comment I guess I shouldn’t like it anymore
Although this TAS run is fascinating, there was something special, something human about the original run. As we are all human, perhaps perfection is not preferable to error
it still missed notes lmao
@@fregi8779 that’s the point
yfw dragonforce goes so hard it makes AIs become self-aware
While this was nice to listen to, the human version was fun all throughout the 7 minutes, I was enjoying it more. The desperate toots and the player tooting to the song playing in their head because the map was too fast was so good
man just had a revilation from watching a bot play a power metal song on a silly doot trumpet game.
I love how at 7:14 the TAS completely craps its pants😂
"sorry, you want me to do _what?"_
LMAO
I'm always amused at the absolute insanity that gets ported into every rhythm game in existence, there are some out there for Clone Hero that I wouldn't even be able to reach 1% in lol.
the wiggling notes are so funny they have me in stitches every time
If the tas can't even get an FC I don't know how us plebs are supposed to handle the hit detection lmao
I see that even with the circular breathing mod, it is still impossible to get a perfect because some notes overlap. I think I have devised a solution for this, however. *Clearly, we need a two trombones at once mod.*
Impressive work for both videos! We all know the original is the crowd favourite, but yes - outstanding!
A damn robot can't even do this. I'm beginning to wonder if its even near possible
"Tool Assisted Trombone" Aaahh we're on that side of youtube again, not that I'm complaining.
You missed the chance to call it a Tool Operated Opus Technology...TOOTs.
I love how even the TAT can't flawless this insanity
I don't know the mechanics of the game, but instruments generally require a lead up before the note to drive the instrument. With a piano it's the hammer, a trombone air, a drum, ya know, the drumstick. It's that anticipation of a note that allows makes it on time. I don't think it'll help here, but quite rad you took the time to make a tat. I can't wait to see one of flight of the bumble bee.
Breathing is overrated. We have Trombones.
@@y2kafka472 Bone till your heart's content.
The amount of times this track makes the trombone go Pac-Man is perfect
5:05 When your note line turns into hill climb racing map
You know is hard when even the machine fucks up
Wow, it sounds good. It's amazing what being just a little off pitch or timing will do
The song really loses something, some hidden quality or aspect of it, when played by a computer. You could say the very essence of playing it on a trombone, I suppose, gets taken away when you remove the human struggle. The dynamic of suffering changes. With this artificial instrumenteer, this automaton of slide and brass, this 'boning machine, if you will, only the listener suffers. But with a mere mortals hands upon the 'bone, the suffering is mutual, and increased for both parties.
the fact that the bot is having trouble and actually lost it streak just goes to show that this song is HARD! 2:16 , 4:10 , 4:19 , 4:22 , 4:30 , 5:28 , 5:31 , 6:07 , 6:09 , 7:13 - 7:17 are the times the bot is failing due to human error in the making of the map and or the difficulty of the reaction time that it responds to which is faster than it can react to.
I get the feeling whoever charted this isn't primarily a musician
2:14 pacman just died
He has ascended beyond the need for an animation, his resolve is as clear as his skin
This is what I expected from the first one 😀
“The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Toward Justice.”
- Martin Luther King Jr, about Through the Fire and the Flames on Trombone Hero
5:29 when the chart goes so hard you become pacman
This is the song that plays when a scrimblo side character is far more powerful than the mc expected.
You know what we need next? Free Bird. I'd love to hear the Free Bird solo on a trombone.
Even when played semi-perfectly those long slide notes just sound wrong
The game has different samples for different notes, and then pitch shifts the note you play as you slide up and down, so it can sound pretty off if you go ham on it.
Also, this rendition of the song is made just to troll the player, since it has a slide too long to be made successfully, random extra and/or missing off-beat notes, gratuitous jumps across the screen just to fuck with you
While this is fire, the live version is superior.
Now this is what TAS (or TAT in this case) was made for lmao
If even the bot is failing to perfect run this then theres only one thing i can say. If you can play Through the fire and flames then you are officially a legend. In any instrument.
Additionally, this chart only covers the vocals. The guitar parts behind that are LOADED.
reminds me of when i was in marching band and we went to a competition where a band did ac/dc
One time, our high school band instructor called AC/DC "heavy metal," and the drummer and I almost died from cardiomyopathy on the spot.
@@Bill_Cipher1995 dammnnnn
@@nikanikani1 Is wrong though? Those blast beats on "You Shook Me All Night Long" are pretty brutal.
@@Bill_Cipher1995 im no drummer, i play brass, that just sounds rather brutal to me, yea
for some reason 7:15 is the funniest noise I've heard all week
Even TAS sounds a bit janky lmao this game is amazing.
Assuming the game is mouse controlled. Would it be possible to get a perfect TAT if you used a drawing tablet?
it's hilarious at 2x speed.
Both versions are amazing, but your first rendition was a really fantastic attempt.
Question wat game is this?
I love when that even when a computer does it, it still sounds like SHIT! which is AWESOME
imagine galaxy collapse on that
I love how it still sounds off even when played right. Like the Trombone can replace no instrument, and no instrument can be replaced by trombone. Only really sounds good with pieces written for it.
I love that even the score counter couldn't even keep up with the song. When the song ended it was at 15 mil and still going up.
I know this isn’t the point but “Tool Assisted Trombone” is absolutely sending me.
Friend: “You okay in there?”
Me in the bathroom after Taco Bell: 5:08
For those wondering why even the bot can’t FC it, a big part of it is because the final vibrato lasts longer than the player’s breath meter. If somehow we developed tech to bypass this, there’s still the problem of some notes being so precise that they overlap. So even though the final vibrato can be done by playing on a higher speed, the overlapping notes that are barely possible on normal speed would absolutely become impossible. An additional part of this is just the way the bot is programmed. I’m sure it can be optimized to search for notes before the current one ends rather than searching for another note the frame the current note ends like it seems it does now.
the tech is simple
*_speed the song up so the note's shorter_*
Why not just make an improved chart? This one is clearly not ideal.
5:30 you know that this is dragonforce when even in trombone champs stills sounds like it came from pac man
Now do it with the gassy trombone
I've never sat down and listened to the full song until this moment. And it is such a beautiful moment.
you know when even the computer is failing, it's a hard chart
07:07 you know you're in for a treat when the end segment starts with BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHH
This is exactly what I needed in life
Fun song to hear accurately played out but I still prefer your sheer panic trying to play this song
Anyone else notice that the trombone if slowed down would more than likely sound like safety dance? Especially the “we can dance if you want to…”
Dude even the tas lost at a part or the "tat"
This was nothing short of ridiculous!
Dude’s gained 200 subs in half a day, hats off to you
So fast even the bot can't keep up
congrats, this killed of the fun part of this game
Osu players: Taking too long too FC this song
DerpyChap: Fine I'll program it myself.
POV: The lead guitars and vocalists didn't show up, so they got someone with a trombone to cover for them.
I love TAT, but I think we can do better. I suggest that we call these Tool-Obtained Optimized Trombone.
When I originally saw the jump in notes at 7:14 I said you're gonna need tool assistance looks like we're gonna need something stronger
Now all we need to see is "The Violation- Fleshgod Apocalypse" mapped
Trombone Champ sounds so _wrong_ when it's played this...accurately.
That rating meter probably took a whole 360 around the entire solar system
the fact that even the tas missed on 0:57 is amazing
5:27 My grandpa at the hospital during surgery when I tell him I got a B+ not an A
if even TAS can't Do it perfectly, It's truly impossible
why is through the fire and the flames a nightmare song no matter what game it's in?
You know if you play this video on two times speed, you can explode your XBox! Don't ask me how I know.
I'm curious how long it'll take til Brain Power will be added
fire
looks like an attack of a bunch of sperm to ovum at first 🤣🤣
I synced this with the actual song on spotify and have never felt so happy.
I love how the bass track is both mixed higher, and is more complex than in the original song in the mod
Having arranged this for trombone for a section leader audition a few years ago Im surprised at how similar some of the parts ended up being (obv the solos were a bit different)
I just realized some notes in this song are physically impossible to get
Tool Obliterating Objectives Trombone. It’s a TOOTer.
Should be Tool assisted Trombone shortened to TooT
someone needs to show this to Evan (vanossgaming)
Lol, the scorebar at the end broke through the boundary.
this song is so hardcore on the trombone, the computer couldn't keep up
This slaps less than the original somehow.