Stellar job mate adding these videos, your effort is very much appreciated. If you would like to do a more comprehensive league format where each unit competes against all other of the same tier (or even different tiers), I think some Patreon sponsorship or something similar would be required for your effort. I for one am willing to donate.
Thank You very much! I am trying to tackle at least some of the issues with "How Good Is" series where the units are tested in different battles. Let's see if that is found useful. If not, I will most definitely consider the idea you presented. :)
Cost efficiency won't really matter in games because the weekly growth is similar among the creatures and players will end up buying all of them anyway. so it doesn't matter that gorgons are more expensive, you will have the same amount of gorgons compared to the opponents dendroid and the gorgons will demolish them and will be also much more powerful against tier 6 and 7 creatures.
@@tamasvarga9862 Thanks for the comment. I agree fully regarding main army. But at least in my games I sometimes have to scramble units for every gold piece to get enough defenses. Imo in those situations, this kind of cost effectiveness analysis could be beneficial :)
Thanks for the comment. Agreed that it did not go too well for them, and a remake would be fair to them. However, as it was "only" the bonus round, I will focus on new videos :)
Might be a back to back win for Rampart with T6 - If those war unicorns get a few blinds in the early rounds they will be hard to beat. I think nagas, cyclops and dreadies (if they high roll double damage) should round the top 4.
I picked Trees, Minotaurs and gorgons as top 3, but i was really hoping my minotaur boys would come on top. The minotaur kings were just so outnumbered at the end! Maybe if they didnt wear freaking golden armour they might be a bit cheaper and not get piled on by the dendroids so badly 😂
well tbh slow trees arr very cost efficient, but didn't they get extremely lucky not to fight against un upgraded monks or liches? wouldn't they get shredded before getting to other side?
Sometimes quantity has a quality of its own, I suppose. Those trees are so slow though! I guess they're mostly meant to protect the ranged or slow enemies down so they get shot more.
They do great job when defending city because of their strength, high week growth and binding ability. Just bind enemy in moat, defend and let the elves do their job😊
I'm loving the videos. However after the special round at the end I thought it might be fairer to make it as a league where every unit fights against the others and at the end the one with most wins will be the winner.
Mighty gorgons can one-shot a teir 7, so im going to just give it to them before even watching this. I'll add to the post once I've seen it. The trees have some killer instinct but overall I stand by my call. I'd take gorgons over any other tier 5.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu thanks for making these vids. Old games need more love, and HOMM III is a classic. Also, I have an idea for a video. Can you beat the game with the same mindset you had playing when you were a kid. So basically, if you made noob mistakes like only using cool looking units, or not understanding how mass slow could be more useful than chain lightning or implosion. could you still pull off a win. It would be good for laughs since we all used to play that way before we learned the game. Either way, thanks again = )
Thank You very much! :) And thanks for the idea. It would most definitely be fun. :D I will add that to To-Do list. And if the campaign starts to go too badly I will just use cheat codes (as I used to... but I guess it is regarded to be a fail then) @@awesomemccoolname7111
Wow, this was so frustrating to watch at times! At 12:24 , any 3-digit-iq commander would have moved all 4 MK stacks to attack the top one, to maximize attack with no retaliation and to effectively nullify the bottom 2 dendroid stacks for the next round. You know, the least speed abuse you can do in this speed bonus and flying nullified tournament. But the artificial idiocricy decided otherwise. Sigh
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Thanks for the reply! Any chance the battles can be done by human command ? I know that it will invite more backseat commander comments, but I don't think it can get worse. The idea would be to maximise, as possible, each unit's strength. Like using wait on the speedier units, proper ganging to maximize non retals, proper splitting for ranged units or blocking to protect the big stack, things like that. And hit and run. Arch devil vs normal hydras can totally do that (wait, attack, go back, repeat). Oh, and also manual setting of how many stacks, for each battle. Master genies would probably be better with 1 big stack and 6 booster stacks. Like someone else said, Vampire Lords work best when split into ... well, not split at all :)) Another suggestion, though it would get to more work - equal speed units to have 2 battles one for each one as the attacker. Then, if both win once, take the one with the highest % of troops alive as the winner. Also, I know that initially morale was enabled and it gives a bit too much randomness. I'd say that overall, using the spirit of opression is a good idea. However, I'd argue that morale should be enabled again also for battles when only one side can benefit from it (ie, living vs non living or vs undead). Because, after all, it is an actual bonus.
@@Winnetou17 Thank you for the good suggestions. And I agree that they would add to these battles. I think I will finish this series (tiers 6 and 7 still to go) with the rule set currently in use. However, I have a next series in mind in which I think I will apply most if not all what you said. I will make some test rounds for that, so every comment to those will be really appreciated :)
I fully agree with you. One option could be that one human plays both sides on hot seat mode but the pace of the battles would come quite a bit slower :) Thanks for the comment.
@@danerobbable You are right. I think the "How Good Is" series tackles the AI issue at least somewhat. But I will keep that human controlled armies in mind and at least test it out :) Thanks for the comment.
"enables morale to allow minotaurs use his ability....
Dendroid soldiers got 3 times more the extra turn" lol
Indeed :) Lucky trees. Thanks for the comment.
Stellar job mate adding these videos, your effort is very much appreciated. If you would like to do a more comprehensive league format where each unit competes against all other of the same tier (or even different tiers), I think some Patreon sponsorship or something similar would be required for your effort. I for one am willing to donate.
Thank You very much! I am trying to tackle at least some of the issues with "How Good Is" series where the units are tested in different battles. Let's see if that is found useful. If not, I will most definitely consider the idea you presented. :)
After watching this, this made me rething about Dendroids. They are a menace, from now on i won't underestimate them again.
Thanks for the comment. Their slow speed is clearly a minus but it seems they are quite cost-efficient in melee :)
Cost efficiency won't really matter in games because the weekly growth is similar among the creatures and players will end up buying all of them anyway. so it doesn't matter that gorgons are more expensive, you will have the same amount of gorgons compared to the opponents dendroid and the gorgons will demolish them and will be also much more powerful against tier 6 and 7 creatures.
@@tamasvarga9862 Thanks for the comment. I agree fully regarding main army. But at least in my games I sometimes have to scramble units for every gold piece to get enough defenses. Imo in those situations, this kind of cost effectiveness analysis could be beneficial :)
Hey you should remake that premium round - the first minotaur morale actually worked against them. They lost one stack just because of it :)
Thanks for the comment. Agreed that it did not go too well for them, and a remake would be fair to them. However, as it was "only" the bonus round, I will focus on new videos :)
I can't believe only one of my picks made it into top 3. And just barely!
P.S. trees are strong, my lord. Their roots go deep...
Well put about the trees :D Thanks for the comment.
I am guessing that ents will win this easly. Cheap high stats very strong in autocombar :). I hope they wont be sniped badly by lichs
Thanks for the comment. You may very well be right :)
Dendroids never let me down and always protected my archers.
Thanks for the comment. Imo they can be rather good - when they can catch the enemy :)
Might be a back to back win for Rampart with T6 - If those war unicorns get a few blinds in the early rounds they will be hard to beat. I think nagas, cyclops and dreadies (if they high roll double damage) should round the top 4.
Thanks for the prediction. Let's see what happens :)
Dreads cant be blinded though, so they kinda have a sure win vs the unis.
@@nenoman3855 Dreads are pretty expensive compared to unis, I think the shear numbers will be a factor
@@nenoman3855 Thanks for the comment. True. Their death blow is RNG, however. That may affect the result if it does not trigger on the first round :)
@@dankaz Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
Neat concept, though I think it'd be more fair to do a best out of 3 format to minimize RNG.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed on that. It should be on different terrain as well to control the effect of obstacles. :)
Thank you for your videos❤
Thank You very much ! :)
I picked Trees, Minotaurs and gorgons as top 3, but i was really hoping my minotaur boys would come on top. The minotaur kings were just so outnumbered at the end! Maybe if they didnt wear freaking golden armour they might be a bit cheaper and not get piled on by the dendroids so badly 😂
Haha :D Indeed. Thanks for the comment.
well tbh slow trees arr very cost efficient, but didn't they get extremely lucky not to fight against un upgraded monks or liches? wouldn't they get shredded before getting to other side?
That is probable :) Thanks for the comment.@@dawislv
Sometimes quantity has a quality of its own, I suppose. Those trees are so slow though! I guess they're mostly meant to protect the ranged or slow enemies down so they get shot more.
Yea, agreed on that. And most likely, if tactics were allowed, they would fare quite a bit worse than this :) Thanks for the comment.
Ye ye, but mighty gorgons are still the best even if they lose to dendroids. No, seriously who use dendrouds?
Thanks for the comment. Agreed, they are rather slow. But perhaps in some defensive situations they may be wroth their gold :)
They do great job when defending city because of their strength, high week growth and binding ability. Just bind enemy in moat, defend and let the elves do their job😊
@@Allkon A sound tactic :) Thanks for the comment.
In the beginning I thougt minotaurs or gorgons would win, damn those trees are good )
"The trees are strong my lord. Their roots go deep." Thanks for the comment :)
Hey, I've got an idea for new vids: WORST Tier X Unit in Homm 3 based on Cost efficiency. What do you think?
Thanks for the idea! I will keep that in mind. :)
Now Monks vs Tress and monks became new champions
Thanks for the suggestion. I might try that out at some point. That might very well be the case :)
I'm loving the videos. However after the special round at the end I thought it might be fairer to make it as a league where every unit fights against the others and at the end the one with most wins will be the winner.
Thank You! I absolutely agree with you. However, the amount of matches would be rather staggering, e.g. for this kind of tournament 120 :)
Mighty gorgons can one-shot a teir 7, so im going to just give it to them before even watching this. I'll add to the post once I've seen it.
The trees have some killer instinct but overall I stand by my call. I'd take gorgons over any other tier 5.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed that against tier 7 units the Mighty Gorgons would be the best :)
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu thanks for making these vids. Old games need more love, and HOMM III is a classic.
Also, I have an idea for a video. Can you beat the game with the same mindset you had playing when you were a kid.
So basically, if you made noob mistakes like only using cool looking units, or not understanding how mass slow could be more useful than chain lightning or implosion. could you still pull off a win.
It would be good for laughs since we all used to play that way before we learned the game.
Either way, thanks again = )
Thank You very much! :)
And thanks for the idea. It would most definitely be fun. :D I will add that to To-Do list. And if the campaign starts to go too badly I will just use cheat codes (as I used to... but I guess it is regarded to be a fail then) @@awesomemccoolname7111
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu oh, I didn't think of that, yes! Good call.
Wow, this was so frustrating to watch at times!
At 12:24 , any 3-digit-iq commander would have moved all 4 MK stacks to attack the top one, to maximize attack with no retaliation and to effectively nullify the bottom 2 dendroid stacks for the next round. You know, the least speed abuse you can do in this speed bonus and flying nullified tournament. But the artificial idiocricy decided otherwise. Sigh
Yea, it seems the AI was not having one of its best days here. :) Thanks for the comment.
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Thanks for the reply!
Any chance the battles can be done by human command ? I know that it will invite more backseat commander comments, but I don't think it can get worse. The idea would be to maximise, as possible, each unit's strength. Like using wait on the speedier units, proper ganging to maximize non retals, proper splitting for ranged units or blocking to protect the big stack, things like that. And hit and run. Arch devil vs normal hydras can totally do that (wait, attack, go back, repeat).
Oh, and also manual setting of how many stacks, for each battle. Master genies would probably be better with 1 big stack and 6 booster stacks. Like someone else said, Vampire Lords work best when split into ... well, not split at all :))
Another suggestion, though it would get to more work - equal speed units to have 2 battles one for each one as the attacker. Then, if both win once, take the one with the highest % of troops alive as the winner.
Also, I know that initially morale was enabled and it gives a bit too much randomness. I'd say that overall, using the spirit of opression is a good idea. However, I'd argue that morale should be enabled again also for battles when only one side can benefit from it (ie, living vs non living or vs undead). Because, after all, it is an actual bonus.
@@Winnetou17 Thank you for the good suggestions. And I agree that they would add to these battles. I think I will finish this series (tiers 6 and 7 still to go) with the rule set currently in use.
However, I have a next series in mind in which I think I will apply most if not all what you said. I will make some test rounds for that, so every comment to those will be really appreciated :)
the AI sucks in these scenarios. Only humans with equal skill levels would give a good assessment. And that is nearly impossible to set up.
I fully agree with you. One option could be that one human plays both sides on hot seat mode but the pace of the battles would come quite a bit slower :) Thanks for the comment.
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu yes. but perhaps a better learning experience. Depends on your viewers, maturity level, etc.?
@@danerobbable You are right. I think the "How Good Is" series tackles the AI issue at least somewhat. But I will keep that human controlled armies in mind and at least test it out :) Thanks for the comment.
Go Dendroids!
Indeed :) Thanks for the comment.
Gorgons VS unupgraded pit fiends was dumb as fuck. Obviously they should get to use their skill aswell.
Thanks for the comment. The pit lords dropped already in the preliminary round. :)