Did Medan finally get a sidewalk?

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024

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  • @Ridhify
    @Ridhify Рік тому +2053

    Hanya orang Medan yang paham kalau trotoar itu mitos... Antara jadi jalur motor atau dijadikan tempat nanam bunga sepenuhnya.

    • @sky23papa
      @sky23papa Рік тому +112

      sekarang jadi angkringan bg kalau malam..tempat jualan dan nongkrong..ada live musik nya juga loh..semua di atas trotoar..hehe

    • @putripratiwi1862
      @putripratiwi1862 Рік тому +23

      ​@@sky23papawih kerennn, beralih fungsi ya 😂

    • @ifanmuara2180
      @ifanmuara2180 Рік тому +6

      ​@@sky23papaada kios jamu juga gak ?

    • @ivannadear6514
      @ivannadear6514 Рік тому +17

      ​@@putripratiwi1862konsep kyk Malioboro, sama kyk d Surabaya konsep nya d buat nyerupain Malioboro

    • @AdamLeonhard
      @AdamLeonhard Рік тому +4

      njir baru gw mau salut

  • @chandets_dra
    @chandets_dra Рік тому +2276

    This man needs a TV show

    • @LelakiKerdus
      @LelakiKerdus Рік тому +26

      This npc needs better dialogue options.

    • @ShupidRayn
      @ShupidRayn Рік тому +2

      ​@@LelakiKerdustrue

    • @unclemaggot
      @unclemaggot Рік тому +2

      he got youtube that pays better than tv these days

    • @bluemorpho3221
      @bluemorpho3221 Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheMrjalijali he already in real life

    • @trouplelol
      @trouplelol Рік тому

      This npc needs to have a brain

  • @f.s.firdaus8106
    @f.s.firdaus8106 Рік тому +1036

    Medan = Gotham City
    Jakarta = Metropolis

  • @LUZZI_BEAT
    @LUZZI_BEAT Рік тому +859

    Gotham city hit different 😂😂

    • @nigelarkadian2141
      @nigelarkadian2141 Рік тому +14

      no its not gotham but GOD dam*

    • @LUZZI_BEAT
      @LUZZI_BEAT Рік тому +3

      @@nigelarkadian2141 oowh itu maksudnya, pandai2 🤣

    • @nigelarkadian2141
      @nigelarkadian2141 Рік тому +1

      @@LUZZI_BEAT enggak bng canda doang 😅

    • @LUZZI_BEAT
      @LUZZI_BEAT Рік тому +2

      @@nigelarkadian2141 iya maksudku pandai cocokologinya 🤣🤣

    • @felixchrist667
      @felixchrist667 Рік тому +18

      Cuma member kaskus yang tau kenapa Medan disebut Gotham City 😅😅😅😅
      Medan need Batman bcoz his crime & mafia

  • @BlaBla-yy2qh
    @BlaBla-yy2qh Рік тому +530

    Medan memang butuh sosok Batman.

    • @teguhharyadi7741
      @teguhharyadi7741 Рік тому +4

      lah memangnya kenapa Medan butuh sosok yg keluar malem² membasmi kejahatan.
      kan udah ada Polisi 🤭

    • @wongkampungdau
      @wongkampungdau Рік тому +32

      ​@@teguhharyadi7741gagal paham ni orang

    • @myman772
      @myman772 Рік тому

      ​@@teguhharyadi7741kurang bang

    • @rizky_1072
      @rizky_1072 Рік тому +19

      ​@@wongkampungdaudia gak tau mungkin bro betapa absurbnya medan di malam hari

    • @nouvalariski6545
      @nouvalariski6545 Рік тому +5

      Aku adalah batman dan aku akan melindungi kota medan

  • @zodysitanggang
    @zodysitanggang Рік тому +214

    Lanjutkan bang buat konten gini, biar pemerintah ngelirik dan ngebagusin kota² di indonesia

    • @devidchia9405
      @devidchia9405 Рік тому +1

      Takutnya malah kena UU ITE

    • @rimuruuslime
      @rimuruuslime Рік тому

      Peduli apa mereka

    • @Aptx999
      @Aptx999 Рік тому +1

      Disindir sama rakyt sendiri aja gk didenger, apalagi sama bule, emang pemerintah ni negara pemuja kulit putih

    • @ggs_cihuy9265
      @ggs_cihuy9265 Рік тому

      Gabakal bro, yg ada mereka bakal tersinggung terus ngasih somasi wkwkwkwk

    • @susantibr8187
      @susantibr8187 Рік тому

      Walikota Medan gimana nih?

  • @togimanaorsianipar7847
    @togimanaorsianipar7847 Рік тому +884

    - Red light = Jalan Terus
    - Green light = Stop, karena yg lampu merah lagi jalan...

  • @sunartisala3730
    @sunartisala3730 Рік тому +118

    Mungkin Presiden Republik Indonesia perlu berkunjung ke Medan, untuk menjewer kuping Walikota Medan. 🤭 Disaksikan istri masing2....

  • @teriyadie
    @teriyadie Рік тому +126

    Lbh bagus konsepnya kalau pas bilang trotoar trus lari² di trotoar tiba² ditabrak dari belakang, karena skrg trotoar multifungsi sbg jalan motor juga wkwk

  • @LoydMagentaRamahAnak
    @LoydMagentaRamahAnak Рік тому +93

    Di medan jalan 1 arah jadi 2 arah dan jalan 2 arah jadi 4 arah, mindblowing

    • @katarinavitaz
      @katarinavitaz Рік тому +1

      Dan Jogja pun otw begini juga kak ... Miris

    • @radokukuroda4613
      @radokukuroda4613 Рік тому +7

      Seluruh kota di indonesia seperti itu, semenjak ojol semakin tak taat aturan dan polisi cuek aja,,,

    • @orangsukses514
      @orangsukses514 Рік тому +2

      Dimedan ada satu² nya jalan di indonesia yg lajurnya kanan, serasa nyetir d iamerika😂😂

    • @heru6394
      @heru6394 Рік тому

      jalur ke-5, jalur malaikat maut

    • @Spinx-dc3so
      @Spinx-dc3so Рік тому +1

      😂🤣😂, makanya dijulukin Gotham city.. 🤣😂

  • @bsusan22
    @bsusan22 Рік тому +57

    Tirtanadi Tower, alias menara air milik pdam nya kota medan

    • @floramanurung4415
      @floramanurung4415 Рік тому +5

      Betul dan menara air Tirtanadi tower itu sudah berumur ratusan tahun,makanya tetap dipelihara sebagai warisan kota medan.

    • @bagusimamhidayat945
      @bagusimamhidayat945 Рік тому +2

      Masih aktif kah atau sudah tidak di gunakan?

    • @chairmanrosethewisegentleman
      @chairmanrosethewisegentleman Рік тому

      Udah ga ada airnya lagi ya?

    • @mikescarlet4261
      @mikescarlet4261 Рік тому +5

      kirain wayne tower

    • @qbpwr
      @qbpwr Рік тому +7

      Kenapa ga ada lampu sorot ya? Biasanya kan tempat bersejarah ada lampu sorot untuk menunjukkan kemegahan atau keindahan di malam hari

  • @zakialiberty8226
    @zakialiberty8226 Рік тому +1

    "The rarest things that I can find..." , a side walk. Man, you truly are my bule spirit...

  • @re_nd_
    @re_nd_ Рік тому +84

    Jokes yang hanya di mengerti orang Medan😂

    • @MrHaplovan
      @MrHaplovan Рік тому +1

      No dude.... Do you think we who are not Medan's people don't understand the jokes...?

    • @bushido7896
      @bushido7896 Рік тому

      ​@@MrHaplovanI don't think so, it's not a joke

    • @taufikrahman4672
      @taufikrahman4672 Рік тому

      Ga juga, gw bukan orang medan tp tau klo medan itu "gotham city" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @noovosco4671
      @noovosco4671 11 місяців тому

      ​@@taufikrahman4672kenapa disebut gotham city?

    • @taufikrahman4672
      @taufikrahman4672 11 місяців тому +2

      @@noovosco4671 banyak begal, rampok, preman, orang arogan, dll di medan... Mknya di sebut gotham city (kotanya batman) yg juga di penuhi kejahatan 😂😂

  • @honmidr4742
    @honmidr4742 Рік тому +1

    Good job brother!! Please keep loving and keeping an eye on our country... We need more people like you here

  • @oregano19
    @oregano19 Рік тому +7

    You're enjoying Indonesia so much than even Indonesian themselves, Sir. Hats off 👒👒

  • @gudikjowo
    @gudikjowo Рік тому +56

    Style nya bang jo skrng kaya orang Indonesia hahaha

  • @VioletScene2014
    @VioletScene2014 Рік тому +42

    Aye, that hits the spot, Gotham City, now, let's wait for Nightwing

  • @DavidRichard69
    @DavidRichard69 Рік тому +52

    Satirnya Hebat 🤣

  • @kdgabadi2776
    @kdgabadi2776 Рік тому +32

    Wkwkwk bang Joe terinspirasi "Bima(Lampung)"tp lebih mantap bang Joe 😁😁😁👍👍👍

    • @RadenCahya
      @RadenCahya Рік тому +1

      Bima pas Lampung mulai diurus bukan berterimakasih, malah ngatain Presiden

    • @kirigamineakitsuki5930
      @kirigamineakitsuki5930 Рік тому +2

      ​@@RadenCahyasaya jg heran, maunya dia apa 🥴 Dasar emang orang cari sensasi. Lagian jg kalau smp Masalah di Provinsi jd Urusan Presiden di Ibukota, itu Gubernur gunanya apa cobak? lebih waras & masuk akal kalau yg dicaci maki itu Gubernurnya

    • @dodolkacang1400
      @dodolkacang1400 Рік тому

      kl yg ini g akan d datengin presiden lah ya
      soalnya kan walikotanya adalah . . . . . . . .

  • @skz361
    @skz361 11 місяців тому +2

    The fact that it is a discovery that we finally have a proper sidewalk for an incredibly small part of the city is mind blowing... Can't agree more

  • @akusaja165
    @akusaja165 Рік тому +22

    Itu peswatnya MIB. Bisa meluncur ke angkasa.

  • @karonesechannel2599
    @karonesechannel2599 11 місяців тому +2

    As a Medanese I can confirm that it's Gotham City, coz
    1. Everyone have and use the "trains"
    2. There's no red traffic light
    3. There's no zebra cross or crossing
    4. We are the most friendliest people (in Gotham City)

  • @JackHeim206
    @JackHeim206 Рік тому +4

    Bro, you really went to Medan.I'm really happy that my city can be included in my favorite UA-camr's videos❤

  • @dikarabarcah
    @dikarabarcah 11 місяців тому +1

    May Done ! Sidewalk is actually where walker has to step aside..😂 for motorcycle.

  • @pemudasadarhukum9279
    @pemudasadarhukum9279 Рік тому +12

    Gua suka bgt sama bule model gini, dengan demikian pemerintah kota medan dan gubernur sumut harus MALU

  • @morafi3516
    @morafi3516 Рік тому +7

    malem vibenya gotham banget ya. DC kalo mau syuting film batman di medan aja dah, cocok banget

    • @herumuliana9018
      @herumuliana9018 8 місяців тому

      Jokernya naik becak motor nanti 😂

  • @justanonymous3632
    @justanonymous3632 Рік тому +9

    As an Indonesian i can confirm that sidewalk is the rarest thing you can found in our country.
    We casually just walking on the center of the road, friendly with the vehicles.

  • @kumkumfriends4772
    @kumkumfriends4772 Рік тому +10

    Itu Menara air...Jono, sekarang fungsi ya buat ditengok-tengok aja, dah kosong berkarat itu. Mungkin burung2 urban ringgal disana? Dijadikan apartemen burung kan lumayan😂😂

  • @serizawaofficial99
    @serizawaofficial99 Рік тому +16

    Trotoar bagus sekali apakah ini sebuah sindiran? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @produksidenkos3858
    @produksidenkos3858 Рік тому +1

    Heyyy Dude.. ur sarcastic is hillarious..
    please Dude.. pleaaaase..
    Dont be get bored..

  • @ekajuliana4253
    @ekajuliana4253 Рік тому +9

    1 lagi yg mengherankan tu kabelnya pada semrawut kayak rambut nenek, ntah kapan semua daerah indonesia bisa pake kabel tanam az semuanya

    • @kampretmemanggila8649
      @kampretmemanggila8649 Рік тому

      kabel kayak jembut kale

    • @aiko9393
      @aiko9393 Рік тому +1

      Habis itu jalanan jebol karena digali terusss 😅
      Emang rapi sih, tapi butuh jalur khusus yang bisa dilewatin pekerja perbaikan supaya tinggal masuk dari pintu aja. Ga usah jebol2 jalanan mulu. Tapi biayanya gede bangettt

    • @bertuzzanfiter4187
      @bertuzzanfiter4187 Рік тому +1

      susah lah bang,apalagi indonesia termasuk rawan banjir(terkusus nya di kota2)

    • @Waferr29
      @Waferr29 Рік тому

      Jaya Pura dah ada kabel tanah dulu oy

  • @hanyasudo442
    @hanyasudo442 Рік тому +2

    Pertama kali ke Medan, diajak sobat ke Tong Air. Kirain apaan hehehe... Tapi Medan memang kota menyenangkan. Kuliner mantap!

  • @kevinviriyat5134
    @kevinviriyat5134 Рік тому +11

    Gotham city😂😂😂

  • @extraordinary7067
    @extraordinary7067 Рік тому +1

    a man of medan, now this is where the game got its inspiration

  • @siojangadgetbox2827
    @siojangadgetbox2827 Рік тому +13

    Sungguh membagongkan 😂

  • @10DaftarSaya
    @10DaftarSaya Рік тому +1

    Medan itu kotaku sejak balita sampai usia awal 30an. Rindu jg

  • @santea3634
    @santea3634 Рік тому +4

    Bang joe ngertiin banget indonesia 😂

  • @PhilleShy
    @PhilleShy Рік тому +1

    Sidewalk? more like "Acceptable motor lane for avoiding the traffic"

  • @rzkzkr20
    @rzkzkr20 Рік тому +4

    Sebagai member forum BPLN. Bang joe nyebut medan sebagai gotham city sungguh sangat nostalgia.
    For context, kenapa medan disebut Gotham city:
    Medan itu kota yang kriminalitas tinggi, penegak hukum korup, pemerintahnya dibacking kriminal, warga jadi korban cuma gak bisa apa2. Semua faktor yang ada di gotham ada semua di medan. Yang gak ada cuma batmannya doang.

    • @Pdf.fileMomo
      @Pdf.fileMomo Рік тому

      Lampung? Yg begalnya banyak...😂

    • @muhammadfernanda9833
      @muhammadfernanda9833 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Pdf.fileMomo lampung mah begal doang, di medan di setiap sudut pasti ada preman nya, begal berkeliaran dimana mana, kejadian maling hampir setiap hari, semua dimaling klo dimedan mulai dari besi pagar, besi jembatan, kursi taman, tutup selokan, semua bisa dimaling, orang jualan sabu udah kaya jual jajan dimedan

    • @melati7418
      @melati7418 11 місяців тому

      ​@@muhammadfernanda9833😮😮😢

  • @haroldgott3719
    @haroldgott3719 Рік тому

    If that's Gotham...then you must be The 🃏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ghaida_alt5082
    @ghaida_alt5082 Рік тому +3

    Kalau Medan itu Gotham City, trus Jakarta apaan bang ?

  • @private1256
    @private1256 10 місяців тому +1

    No I live at medan and it's not a secret I guess it's very obvious it's a water tank and that sidewalk was just renovated to make it bigger the name of the water tank is "menara"

  • @melfarangkuti8783
    @melfarangkuti8783 7 місяців тому

    I am a Medan origin, i cant stop laughing 😂😂😂😂

  • @tendysaputraa
    @tendysaputraa Рік тому

    This guy doesn't need a TV Shows.
    TV Shows needs him

  • @ringoooringooo2190
    @ringoooringooo2190 Рік тому +1

    Walk safely, Not hit by motorcycle...
    Car & Motorcycle crossing in background 😂😂😂

  • @dwisamudra5449
    @dwisamudra5449 Рік тому

    Bang joe, It made me think that the water tower was actually a secret station for monitoring aliens

  • @fitriaayunda9475
    @fitriaayunda9475 Рік тому

    This is the best sarcasm ive ever heard as a half medanese 😂

  • @ikangabus8585
    @ikangabus8585 8 місяців тому

    In Maryland (Marelan) you might find people carrying house fences, STOP signs or power lines, at 3am. Greetings from MEBIDANG 😂

  • @jamestrollol1055
    @jamestrollol1055 11 місяців тому

    HAHAHAHA, when he said Gotham City, nothing explains medan in 2 words

  • @decora6260
    @decora6260 Рік тому

    BG Bros on motorcycle got me distracted 🤣

  • @jornmungandr
    @jornmungandr Рік тому

    laughed so hard when he said GOTHAM CITY LMFAOO

  • @Potatoesindisguise
    @Potatoesindisguise 11 місяців тому

    Between Gotham and Medan, Gotham is more tame.

  • @j3fron
    @j3fron Рік тому

    Kamfreeeet 😂
    I guess this guy needs a tv show? 😂

  • @wisyralvalenskie5416
    @wisyralvalenskie5416 Рік тому

    Actually Medan have many "Joker" but doesnt have "Batman" for call. Thats why Medan called Gotham City.

  • @Fathirrahim
    @Fathirrahim Рік тому +1

    In his heart he said "creating this content is very difficult" because sidewalks only exist in a few places

  • @juch3
    @juch3 11 місяців тому

    My hometown is Medan, but I haven't been there for a few years and I was honestly surprised when you stood on an actual proper sidewalk and said that you were in Medan 😅

  • @fidesimatupang
    @fidesimatupang Рік тому +2

    I cracked at Gotham City 😂 but it kinda is Gotham City with the traffic and the recent fence thefts(?)... robberies(?)

  • @bashrc-kq8nu
    @bashrc-kq8nu Рік тому

    You forgot to talk about those ravel Electricity Cables, so fucked up 🤣🤣🤣

  • @CaptainDeliciousPants47
    @CaptainDeliciousPants47 Рік тому

    "Gotham City"💀
    Someone from Medan needs to train himself to become The Batman

  • @bintangsinggasana9481
    @bintangsinggasana9481 Рік тому

    Gotham city , you're literally right man😅😂😂

  • @Samudra-wu1iw
    @Samudra-wu1iw 11 місяців тому

    this is a critique on the next level 😆 well done mr Joe

  • @donievandri7766
    @donievandri7766 Рік тому

    This man give knowledge over all teacher i have

  • @innocent_boy6027
    @innocent_boy6027 Рік тому

    Dude gave up on pronouncing medan the correct way, and decided to name it Gotham City 🤣

  • @alfanalhakim
    @alfanalhakim Рік тому

    "I'm here in gotham city" got me😂😂😂

  • @melkysirait1502
    @melkysirait1502 Рік тому

    Medan is One Of Specially City in The World...!!!

  • @OldPC2007
    @OldPC2007 Рік тому

    gotham city!! 🤣, describe Medan city more like a dark crime city that needs a batman like you sir🤣

  • @peteralexandra7899
    @peteralexandra7899 Рік тому

    My dad said that "thing" used to be a water reservoar long long time ago before I was born. But yeah. I live nearly 40 years in Gotham but never know what it truly is. Let alone set foot in there. I don't think any of my friends ever too.

  • @JAKKUN
    @JAKKUN Рік тому

    as someone who lives in medan i can confirm that the water tower is a top secret nasa facility.

  • @zweehs
    @zweehs Рік тому

    That “Gotham City” line got me hard😂

  • @opiniawam9205
    @opiniawam9205 11 місяців тому +1

    Medan is not a city but random aliens settlements. Historically Medan is Malay Islamic Sultanate, but nowadays it's a lot easier to find anything like roasted pork and tuak than a Malay person. Another thing is that people from outside Sumatera will greet anyone from Medan with Horas, you see Malay do not greet each other with Horas, because Horas is aliens greetings from Tapanuli planet.

  • @ferytz5342
    @ferytz5342 Рік тому

    now i realize that someone on Motorbike... just "🖕" at us

  • @alien432hz9
    @alien432hz9 Рік тому

    I love this satire/sarkas comedy

  • @victoryhuntersvh4635
    @victoryhuntersvh4635 11 місяців тому

    I LOVE YOU BG JOE.... SALAM DARI MEDAN... TERIMAKASIH SUDAH MEWAKILI KERESAHAN DAN RASA MUAK ORG MEDAN THDP W***""""

  • @ranggaavicenna7051
    @ranggaavicenna7051 Рік тому

    Bukan orang medan, tp kangen medan. Nasi goreng ny enak dsana n bnyk mknan enk jg d kampung keling👍👍

    • @Ar_Sidabutar
      @Ar_Sidabutar Рік тому

      Klu soal makanan mmg medan no.1, org2 jakarta yg brkunjung ke medan sanagt mengidolakan makanan medan ketimbang asalnya jakarta.
      1 bln di medan ktanya bikin gemuk

  • @travelingkullinerindonesia1703

    Medan people be like : i'am a batman???

  • @zumiarnizumiarni3971
    @zumiarnizumiarni3971 Рік тому

    Excuse me..
    Welcome to Medan-North Sumatera.
    Horas..bg Joey..
    But i'm wondering when u took the video anyway..
    Great work...👍👍👍❤

  • @JuOne.P
    @JuOne.P Рік тому

    "Gotham city" people who live in medan now officially is a batman

  • @anahusira1288
    @anahusira1288 Рік тому

    WKKKK the moment he called Gotham

  • @manusiabiasa235
    @manusiabiasa235 Рік тому

    Thanks to introduce my gotham city to the world ! 🤝

  • @highstudentproduction8195
    @highstudentproduction8195 Рік тому

    Plot twist : The last Building is Wayne tower

  • @trytorelax4242
    @trytorelax4242 Рік тому

    Bro, that gotham city had me dying 😂😂

  • @Noelleiscute
    @Noelleiscute Рік тому

    Medan is officially named gotham city

  • @risaliaddini5233
    @risaliaddini5233 Рік тому +1

    Jokes gotham city makes me 😂

  • @sharshin4U
    @sharshin4U Рік тому

    Fyi the last thing is a tower for Holds water in it, and now Its just one of the iconic things in Medan

  • @donnyekaputra1991
    @donnyekaputra1991 Рік тому

    yes indeed Gotham city is the right way to pronounce Medan 😂

  • @PhytonG1642
    @PhytonG1642 Рік тому

    Come to grogol station at 5:30pm, and go right to Ciputra mall after you get out from the station. The sidewalk is multifunction for pedesterian and motorcycle

  • @mohammadihsan7267
    @mohammadihsan7267 11 місяців тому

    You are in my city where i came from. You wiil best cullinary there. None like medan vs all cities indonesia. Medan best cullinary..trust me..👍

  • @popeyemidori
    @popeyemidori Рік тому +1

    😂😂good job, bang joe. kritik utk negeri kami. 👍👍

  • @Kuroyoi
    @Kuroyoi Рік тому +1

    You get Savage Bruh

  • @travelfoodtechnology6587
    @travelfoodtechnology6587 Рік тому

    Gotham city 😂😂😂 that is fucking truee but without batman

  • @Akunsupend
    @Akunsupend Рік тому

    Medan ❎
    Meydan ❎
    Mehdan ❎
    Mayday ❎
    Gotham city ✅
    XD

  • @mangjii
    @mangjii Рік тому

    As a resident of maydon i can confirm that this city is just like gotham city

  • @Kaizo_gf
    @Kaizo_gf Рік тому

    Nah...bro roasted our mayor...🗿

  • @haerudinh4erudien597
    @haerudinh4erudien597 Рік тому

    Meydan needs Frank castle

  • @WIRyan-ex8zr
    @WIRyan-ex8zr Рік тому

    No om bule, that Tower is the secret building to Call batman

  • @あなたのショート
    @あなたのショート Рік тому

    bro risk his life to strike our corrupt goverment 💀

  • @witheringsamadi8430
    @witheringsamadi8430 Рік тому

    Soon enough motorbikers will occupy them. Here in Jakarta people think that sidewalk is build purposefully to park the motorbike🎉🎉
    Welcome to Indonesia

  • @brifthV
    @brifthV Рік тому

    bruh... that gotham's batman waterwatch tower. 😌 carefull crossing the railway near it 🏃🚞

  • @ifantulastono
    @ifantulastono Рік тому

    Meydan,meydon,me-m-meydan😂

  • @yohanesmy8354
    @yohanesmy8354 Рік тому

    Ok actually, as a local citizen who once went to medan. I still have no idea what that tower is used for in the last clip-