You saved my life and my pocket with this video. They claim Toseek is a Japanese brand on these extensive Ebay listings. I have never bought anything OEM or ODM simply for being cautious, as pro cyclists or retired pros we all had heard word of mouth terror tales about frames/forks/handlebars cracking all of a sudden, etc...So before I hit the "buy button" I came across your very cute and spectacular good humoured channel and man, was it transformative! Your bike is the living proof there are some good quality materials outside the fashionable brands. Kudos for your research and the courage to put them to the test! Subscribing with delight
Toseek, EC90, and a bunch of other names are all from the same factory in China. They OEM and anyone can put their own brand stamp on it. This has been a standard practice for years so even the branded stuff are all inherently from China. Most brands will copyright their molds but the factories will often make similar (and sometimes better) molds for OEM cuz they can sell more and eliminate idle production time. So quality-wise, these so-called “Chinese” parts, are on par with branded parts that just charge u more cuz they spend ur money on commercials and sponsoring athletes.
@@kenshin130 sorry you're wrong. These bars are cheap dangerous shite, my son broke some last week and managed to stay on miraculously. Seriously, the Chinese don't care what they sell you, we're protected and wrapped in cotton wool here .
@@Adanteh The only downside is that I haven't found a proper chinese brakes that aren't too heavy, there are only cheap ones or expensive ones xD. The cassette and the chain is another story, you can get titanium cassettes for around 50 quids, and a lightweight chain for about 40.
microSHIFT! Taiwanese, but have been around for a while and are interchangable with Shimano. The problem is that Shimano Tiagra/105 is so cheap and so good, there's no reason not to use it.
@@cup_and_cone Yeah I've used a microshift casette and it was proper worst I've ever used. Shifting sucks and it eats itself too fast. A sora with less gears is better
@Cup & Cone, yeah I agree, as long as you steer clear of Ultegra and DuraAce, you can definitely find some Shimano bargains. I paid £235 for my whole Tiagra groupset, and over 16000 miles later, it's still going strong! That being said, I am super tempted by the Sensa Empire groupset people have been taking about in the comments.....
I really love your videos bro. To many people take themselves way to seriously so you are a fresh breath of air. I know your content must be a real labor of love but I hope that you keep them coming. Maybe take us on a ride with you some time and show us some of your favorite routes. I, being from the southern USA would really like vlog style content along with your super cool regular content. Keep up the great work!!
Awesome, thanks Jarvis, really appreciate it. Yeah I put a lot of effort into these videos, so really cool to hear people are enjoying them! Haven't really thought about a cycle blog, but yeah maybe... maybe
Hi, I too am in yorkshire and have just ordered a pair, I'm in Knaresborough and around my end the roads are awful- have you ever hit them on the floor hard?- I imagine I will drop the bike a few times... what I'm trying to ask is have you had any problems at all with them?
I thought only Mexicans called the ground the floor. Inside you’ll find the floor, outside you’ll find the ground. A farmer would never sow seed in the floor. Yes there is a forest floor but that’s inside the forest. Got it? Good, carry on then. To think an American tidying up an Englishman’s English. Bullocks.
@Matty Butler, I've never had any problems with them breaking or anything like that, but I haven't had a massive crash and the floor super hard yet. I've gone over a few times no doubt, and they have held up totally fine. They are not super fragile my any means.
I bought the exact same Toseek bars. I’m running them on my 2019 Trek emonda disc SL7 (Di2) with internal cabling/hydraulic hoses. They still work great after 2,000 miles. Stiff. I bought 2 other handlebars for my 2019 ALR Disc Ultegra hydraulic bike and my 2016 SL6 Di2. Sure saved a ton of money over “name brand” handlebars. Several friends have bought similar, and everyone is happy!
Just bought a set of these off the back of your review :)) £33 off eBay, no import tax, about 14 days to deliver..I'm amazed how good the build quality is..I've also pulled/twisted/pushups on them they feel very stiff. Thanks again
yes take care with ali-express ask their latest price ..and let them bill you high rate tax...or you'll have to pay with delivery..that could suck if you payed that amount already
I have had these bars for almost two years and they are very good. Stiff with some flex. If considering this exact model, note the drop of the bar from center line of the stem....It lowers your riding position. its a snug contour. Another good brand is RXL. Good video mate.
Hello! Thanks for the video. Woven carbon prepreg is usually only as the first layer, as it is not so strong and is much more expensive than UD. I always prefer products with woven final layer. Finishing of these composite products involves a lot of sanding. Woven layer, being not so structural, protects UD structural layers from damage. Marble-like appearance of some UD carbon handlebars is actually an evidence of at least one or more layers being sanded through. Which is, in term of structural composites, very very bad. Take care, Happy riding, KK
I was sceptical at first...but I ended up buying the replica Canyon one piece bar and stem to replace the damaged genuine one, which cracked after a crash. I'm sad to say that the replica was actually stiffer and just felt more solid, even though the weight was about 150g more. So yeah, very happy with my purchase! And thanks for the video too 😘
Awesome, now I have my bike setup pretty much squared away, I am tempted by a one piece bar and stem setup tbh... Anyway glad you liked the video, and thanks for the comment!
Bought these bars based on your excellent video.They Look great, strong and light. Haven't had any issues at all and could not notice any flaws during installation and inspection. Great bargain.
I've had these handlebars on my bike for almost two years. I recently recabled the bike, took the handlebars off the stem and checked for cracks or marks, nothing. These are fantastic. Just as with all carbon, make sure you use a torque wrench and uniformly tighten all four screws in your stem. I'm using a little under 4nm on mine, tightening in an x pattern a quarter of a turn each at a time until the torque wrench clicks. They all tighten up at the same time, a good sign of good uniform tightening. (when the first clicks, all the rest will click on the next turn too)
I bought some on aliexpress they are super logic but are exactly the same. Just a rebrand. You are definitely right with the 4nm as I didn’t realise this till I read the description after. As I went to 5nm as it’s what it said on the stem and I heard a ever so slight crack noise. So yeah anyone else with these bars defo stick to 4nm. My bars have been fine so far. Just wish I knew this before going at it like a bull.
@@Georgous92 when you tighten carbon and you're also using carbon fiber assembly paste, which you should, you can hear tiny cracks but that's just the little plastic or glass beads suspended in the assembly paste so you're probably fine anyway. My reply was six months ago, I'd like to inform that the bars remain installed on my bike and they're totally fine :)
Rigo Torres cheers for the reply dude. Gives me re assurance! It’s good to know yours are still going well. Just got my Chinese frame on the weekend so will be transferring all my bits over to it now!
I have a similar (same design) unbranded handlebar on my Velobuild deathtrap. Neither of which has trapped me or caused my death in 2000km. And I'm a 6'4" 90kg lump. Very happy!👍
Same for me and it's more like 15000km and few crashes. It's great looking, aero and super comfortable. The only downside is horrible internal cable routing.
Bought these handlebars after watching your video and I absolutely love them. They have a lot of flex which gives tons of comfort over rough tarmac or gravel and takes the edge off potholes. I also bought a Chinese knockoff of Canyon VCLS 2.0 seat post which works amazingly well. Gives around 2 cm of suspension and totally mutes road buzz.
I bought the same Toseek bar. I had them about 6-8 months and was riding down a hill about 30 mph. At the base of the hill, where it flattened out, I got in the drops and sprinted out of the saddle. I didn't see a pot hole and hit it fairly hard, nothing worse than I have previously. I heard a big crack noise and thought I just cracked my new Scott Foil frame. Hit my brakes to stop and realized the left side of the bars snapped downward and were hanging a bit. So, in your "strength" ahem, cough, cough, test, you would need to hold the drops where there is more leverage and not the tops. PS: The bars are a little flexy while sprinting and also with hard digs out of the saddle while climbing.
Ok good to know. It can be a bit of a lottery with these replica parts, but good to hear the good and the bad. I would be really interested to put them up against a genuine set of 3T bars, and see how they stack up. But I kinda agree with you, they can bit a bit flexy on the drops, but ive never run into any issues like the one you have described. Anyway, thanks for the comment!
Dude, Ive had those bars on my bike for 3 years now and absolutely LOVE them! They are super comfortable and look fantastic. You can rest your forearms right in that bend up area and its perfect. Can’t loose with these. Also have an MTB set of bars from Toseek and they are great too!
I got 820mm wide riser mtb toseek bars in carbon from china. super solid and cost me about $55 NZD shipped to new zealand. So good! Completely changed the feel of my fat bike, going to get another bar for my other bike!
I've got the same "brand" carbon bars on two mountain bikes. No problems so far. Dont have 6000 miles on them yet, but I don't have any confidence issues riding them.
Me too! Riding these Bars for 3 years with a gel cushion under the tape. No problems with them sprinting, love the fourth possible hand position and the vibration damping.
I've got the exact same bars on my road bike, they've been on there since January. I had the same,problems routing the outer cable, so your not alone. Weirdly I haven't yet died from using cheap Chinese carbon. I've also got Toseek Carbon riser bars on my MTB.
These videos are so awesome for a beginner - had a horrible experience going bike shop to bike shop with a low budget just for them to push in-house brands relentlessly - love seeing someone who brings a non-biased truth to the road biking. Appreciate all the info!
No worries dude! Glad you like my stuff :) But yeah I know what you mean about bike shops. The local guys are usually decent, but I've completely lost faith on the chain brands like Evans, or cycle surgery.
I've had these exact handlebars for 2 months now and I'm very happy with them. The only problem I had was that the STI levers kept slipping but a bit of grip tape fixed that.
You convinced me. I've been unhappy with the stock bars on my bike for nearly two years now, but also reluctant to spend $200 replacing them. $34 later and I've got these same bars on order. Thanks!
What drew me to them was the wide flat top for comfort and the supposed benefits of carbon sucking up road vibe. These did that better than I had hoped. Cable routing is a bit of a pain. I did 1 at a time and had a little better luck by the sounds of it. For the price, pretty unbeatable.
My god, why the hell didn't I think of this!!! This would have probably cut my cabling time in half, good freaking suggestion!!! I love reading the comments. I'll be re-cabling these in a future video, so I'll definitely shout you out!
It wouldn't have made it any easier. The problem is the sharpness of the curve and the stiffness of the outer cable. I have the exact same bars and suffered the same problem.
@@TraceVelo Hehe yeah that's the way to go. There are plenty of videos on UA-cam concerning the different tricks and techniques of doing internal cable routing. Another nice one is tying fishing line to the end of the inner cable and on the other end of the line something fluffy like a cotton ball, then you can use a vacuum cleaner (or a hoover in Brit speak) to suck it through from the other end. And then there is the magnet technique too. But these are all more relevant when it comes to routing cables in a whole frame.
I have the 3T version. I pulled one cable with outers through first, and then taped the second cable to the first one. That made it easy to pull the second cable through.
Had Toseek carbon bullhorn bars on my fixie for over a year. Never used a torque wrench and probably almost always over torqued the stem but alas, never had any problems. They were great, going to buy some Toseek dropdown bars for my road bike soon. Definitely recommend Toseek, however i'm unsure about the other brands.
Oddly enough, I’ve purchased quite a few of these Chinese carbon fiber parts prior to coming across your channel. A lot of my friends would warn me of quality issues and recommend branded parts that often cost up to 10X the cost. Since I’m not a pro rider nor clock miles like yourself or my buddies, it’s always been a concern how these parts fair against their branded twins, but after seeing your reviews, I’m a happy rider. Love your channel, keep up the great work!
Another great video! Like I said in my last comment I was edging on buying some! And now I feel a bit more confident! Keep up the awesome work! Love hearing about the dark side of cycling(chines carbon)
@Max Kokensparger, awesome, glad you liked it! But yeah I love letting people know, you don't have to spend a butt load to get some really great kit! Thanks for the the support!
Decided to give in to this handlebar because my alloy hb is very uncomfortable. Pretty cheap ~23€ without shipping costs. Thanks so much for the video!
@Til Pape, awesome thanks so much, really appreciate it! I always end up putting a little too much time into these vids, so love reading these comments!!! 🙏
I had one of those and after a year they just exploded. Bought the originals and they were rounder, while the chinese one was strong, it just wasn't round enough and was flexy which masked the lack of roundness, which created a load that ended up with a sudden crack.
Humor, 70s style title page, 80s electronic music hanging out in the background, classic video game references, oh yeah and a great talk on Chinese carbon. This video, and all of your videos are fantastic and deserve more recognition. One question, did I miss a description of what your commute is like? Are we talking a straight flat clean road all the way through? So when you say its comfortable we know what kind of road you are working with.
Awesome, thanks Shawn, really appreciate it, and glad you like the videos!! So yeah my commute is about 20 miles round, and pretty flat. The road surface is ok, but by no means flawless tarmac. Some of the roads round West London are hot garbage after being dug up so many times, and the stop start traffic can be a nightmare. Plus I'm honestly not precious about my gear, and use my carbon wheelset for the commute most of the time. So yeah hope that gives some context.
Your video couldn't come up at better time! - Just this afternoon we were discussing Chinese handlebars with my friend while riding. My friend doesn't trust Chinese carbon. On the other hand my view is such that I don't believe Chinese manufacturers would jeopardize their customers' health, not to say their credibility by producing faulty product. And if an European importer puts his sticker on the handlebars of the very same origin, it doesn't make it more reliable, it just makes it more expensive. In short, I've ordered these bars for myself. I'm in the same flyweight category as you are, so I believe I won't break them either :-) Thanks for videos! Keep making them! Good stuff ;-)
Yeah so buying cheap Chinese carbon isn't totally risk free, but do your research, and read the seller reviews, and you can mitigate the risks and pick up some absolute bargains. Super cool to hear you picked up a set of these bars though, I'm sure you'll love them!! But yeah, glad you liked the video, and thanks for the comment!
@@TraceVelo I've ridden them today for the very first time and I love them! Soooo comfortable! I went down the stairs and everything held, so I guess I'll trust them from now on. Thx again for very good tip! facebook.com/groups/1476446176002377?view=permalink&id=2349965678650418
I always rode alloy bars until I decided to go aero. I broke two sets of 3t bars (one crash, one clamp crush), and the company was horrible to deal with... I broke a set of Enve bars in half during a crash... So I decided to go with china carbon bars. Been just as good as the name brands generally.
Incaensio My expectations are when when you pay a premium for components you get the ‘after service’ from the big brands. But not so these days. So, go value Chinese / Taiwanese it make sense 💥
I've bought an MTB integrated stem+handlebar from Toseek. Put it in some holes in the walls, above the door, and hang there, me and my two sons, for 5 minutes. We also did some lifting, stretching etc... That is 170kg in total. I've decided it's strong enough to fit it in my son's MTB ;)
Remember there's a difference between cheap and inexpensive the word cheap tents to refer to quality the word inexpensive tends to refer to price. You can get some inexpensive high-quality parts you can also get some inexpensive low quality parts.
I bought a frame direct from Flyxii ( £250 delivered )and rode Paris Roubaix on it as well as commuting for 4 years through London - performed flawlessly . I bought carbon , flat top aero bars from Joom ( £28 ) branded only with E90 - they've performed faultlessly as well . They're far more comfortable than alloy bars and definately soak up the vibrations better .
had these exact bars but having not been on a bike in 6 years i pulled a noob move and crushed them with the stem but to thier credit i went to break them in half to throw them away and i even put them on blocks and stood on them and they took 200 lbs which id say is probably pretty good
Great video. Got a chinese carbon frame and fork last year for 400 euros. After a year and three months riding, no problem at all, greetings from Mallorca, Spain👍
Awesome review, I seriously appreciate your stress test since I've seen a lot of flex in some other videos. The one piece bars in other vids have seemed to have an unacceptable amount of flex for sprinting. Thanks
Fantastic review there mate. I was dubious about them but hearing from your self instilled confidence. I was looking at the stem integrated version also.
Yeah I actually just got the integrated stem one in the post last week. I haven't used it yet, but seems to be at least as good quality as the one in this video.
I had the same bars, I found them to be strong and lightweight, the only thing I didn't like was that they extended the reach a little to much for me. (which is my fault as I should have done more research) Great video please keep it up.
Awesome thanks dude, glad you like the video's! So yeah the reach is much longer than regular bars for sure. Probably worth getting a slightly shorter stem to compensate.
Loving the videos editing is quite funny and content is down to earth and really interesting , keep up the good work. Can you do a show on Chines disc brake road frames and what they are comparable with, looking at it from a geometry /shape of popular OEM carbon road frames? Thanks for the videos 👍
be warned carbon doesnt really dent it just breaks. so if you crashed and hit the handle bars id def be looking under the bar tape be it aluminum or carbon
I had a cheap carbon bar on my bike (looked like a 3T copy). The bars were comfy, looked great and I was very happy with them ...but they did break suddenly going down a fast downhill. The end section was weakly secured to the mid section by a thin carbon shell. This snapped, the bar end pivoted at this joint and then came off altogether. Fortunately I stayed upright. I may have had a bad example but it put me off using cheap carbon bars. Having said that I've had a cheap carbon seatpost, which I've used for 6 years, no problem.
Luke… if that is still your name… this is one of the funniest channels going. You make me L O L several times a video whilst keeping me informed. I thank you
Hey man.. A friend on mine bought two of these handle bars.. He built a specialized alieze and with some more carbon parts the final weight is 17.8 lbs. Point is the bars are light weight, strong so far amd look great!
Sad to say mine lasted for about a thousand miles - today I rode of the pavement and hit some rocks - blew a tube (aluminum wheel is still round) and had the bar break completely on both sides
I had some similar bars on one of my bikes. I'm a heavy rider and was petrified of them failing, but, I mounted them to the stem and gave them some physical abuse. Yes, they flexed a little, but that flex is what reduces road buzz. They were very comfortable and survived a heavy clatter into a pothole - sadly, my (alloy) frame cracked around the seatpost/top tube junction. The bars were fine and they'll go on another bike once I've decided what I'm doing everything except for the junk frame.
My bike is festooned with cheap Chinese carbon components and all of it is fine, it's not snapped at high speeds and I am not dead or seriously injured. Fantastic. I did buy cheap Taiwanese titanium cassette though and that is bloody awful. Noisy, embarrassingly so, had to remove and replace with steel Campagnolo job.
i bought second hand tt bull horn from this brand. I've got no chance to compare it to anything else on the market, but they're super light and comfortable for my needs. very light and seem to be pretty decent quality...
hey actually planning to buy them ,so do they support the normal end bar brake levers or the tt brake levers ,if not what is the size of the hole at ends??
@@pratikparbat341 i got sram 500 tt levers and they fit pretty good, even had some room for tiny bit of bar tape to be squeezed in, but they fit and squeeze without problem without extra material
I am waiting for my carbon road wheels right now. My carbon seat posts, carbon road (including shaft) fork and my Carbon Handlebars working great so far in one season of riding 2018.
I bought some 50 mm CSC carbon clincher wheels last year for $304 and I couldn't be happier with them. The brake pads that came with them were horrible but the wheels are great.
@@TraceVelo have you build up other bikes so far.... Hardtail? "YBK39" this one from Ali has cought my attention... Get some fine carbon wheels from Ali too and you gonna have money left for an AXS Group-Set.
I purchased a set of these. .managed 1000miles at which point found they had cracked close to the stem... they where also at the correct torque setting!! Really if you want cheap just stick to a cheap alloy pair from a known manufacturer!! Otherwise if you do want carbon, spend out on a reputable brand..
Finally cracked my ultra cheap Chinese mtb hbar under the brake lever after 6 yrs of use and several horrendous crashes during that time. Performance never suffered and had I not removed the brake lever I would not have known.
So good to see you encouraging folks to buy cheap Chinese knock offs that probably violate intellectual property rights or put people at risk. Not all cheap Chinese knock offs are safe. Most are deadly.
1. And what is the answer of your video? Buy over the original bar or not? 2. Is there any pro cyling team using this kind of bar? 3. Whats the cons vs the original 3T bar you said in the beginning of thia video? Thx.
Ordered a Superlogic bar on Aliexpress. Identical design to yours. Also been using a Toseek carbon fibre stem for about a year now. The handle bar only cost £25 and paid £24.99 for the stem on Amazon.
Gave it a go and spend $36 US at eBay for the Toseek carbon aero bars. I have no complaints with the weight or overall finish quality but after 2 hours and destroying 2 sections of new Shimano housing decided my time was better spent on other things. A number of fails in the design, specifically in the flat section and lacking the guide tubes that are almost standard now with components that route cable internally it's wasn't money well spent, but then you get what you pay for.
Yeah I know what you mean, the cable routing was a bit of a pain. I got some tips from people in the comments though, and that is to run the actual cables through first, then use them to guide the cable outers through the bars. I haven't tried it myself, but lots of people have assured me it works like a charm. Might be worth a go.
If I didnt spend £10,000 + o a bike and £3000 on clothing I wouldnt be able to call myself a cyclist ! Joking of cause, and your videos have made me realise that instead of building a fairly decent bike with used parts I really should of gone Chinese. Still not to late is it ! Another great video Thanks
When I crashed last year on those exact bars, they cracked right at the stem and broke there. I smashed my head into the pavement, I don't know if those bars were at fault or not. Perhaps any carbon bars would break the same way. Maybe I will never know.
So I just ordered my carbon fiber frame / wheelset / handlebar / seat from China. Disclaimer: I have never owned a bike. This quarantine and your videos gave me this idea of a new pet project :)
read all the comments, jayz there's loads, to see if anyone asked how 190g compares to the weight of alu' bars cos i'm just curious. You're informative and gas, plus the surprising bam bum videomash is wake up funny so i finally subscribed. Nice one and please keep it up, I might even consider getting a cheap carbon fiber whatev sometime..
a one piece bar is in the mail as we speak..i wanted to warn about ali express about TAX...they charge the tax before delivery in your country..pick the right one..i found a carbon bar (one piece 36 euro) on WISH app. lot's of them like...one piece and different carbon bike parts..even rip-off CINELLI !!!.great tech. vid guy!!!👍
I've been using an identical set ( though not Toseek) for 7k km or so. I love them. They are so comfortable. However, first cable routing is a major endurance event.... I have other Toseek bits, and they are absolutely fine and faultless.
Ling Ling if your sayin Taiwan is china i could also say north Korea is part of south Korea, Taiwan is their own independent nation (country) taiwan-china term is used for china’s media,
that’s our misunderstanding then, there is lots of controversy in this topic, as my family is from the people’s republic it is our stand that tiawan is still part of our country
Great video..thanks for the info..price difference is massive when bought here..I bought “copy” castelli kit from China.shirt/shorts 23 quid total .quality is superb.hard to justify buying local when your getting charged 70+ just for the shirt..definitely gonna look at them bars now
Have some toseek carbon pursuit bars on my road-going track bike and they soak up the potholes nicely. Also have a toseek semi-aero seat post, which has given no trouble at all also. Recommended by Joe.
@KevCentral needs to see this. I have been trying to get him to buy one for months to review. I've been buying carbon parts and frames from mainland China for years from good sellers. All the parts ive had worked perfectly. Only issue I've had was with a seatpost that I overtighten and snapped after putting my fat ass on it going downhill . The carbon frame I have didn't even have a stress mark or anything after the snap. I replaced it with the same $20 seatpost off amazon and tightened it to 5nm. I had a hard crash after and it took it like a champ. The thing with "cheap" parts is that they don't feel like a bad investment when things break or get too beat up. Just buy another cheap part and your done. Plus t700 or t1000 carbon from trek is the is toray carbon used in cheaper frames or parts. As long as there are no obvious defects the two will have close to if not equal strength values.
Last weekend, I got cut off HARD and slid into another rider. When I made impact, I was almost at a stop, and the bike fell over. To be clear, it was hardly a “crash”, the bike fell at almost a complete stop. I was not harmed, but my Chinese handlebars crushed at the point where the cable hole was drilled. My handlebar tape was not damaged... but the bars were ruined.
You saved my life and my pocket with this video. They claim Toseek is a Japanese brand on these extensive Ebay listings. I have never bought anything OEM or ODM simply for being cautious, as pro cyclists or retired pros we all had heard word of mouth terror tales about frames/forks/handlebars cracking all of a sudden, etc...So before I hit the "buy button" I came across your very cute and spectacular good humoured channel and man, was it transformative! Your bike is the living proof there are some good quality materials outside the fashionable brands. Kudos for your research and the courage to put them to the test! Subscribing with delight
Yeah I've had a loads of toseek stuff in the past, and it has all been great quality. For me, toseek stuff has always been solid!
Trace Velo do you have any experience with a toseek carbon seatpost?
Toseek, EC90, and a bunch of other names are all from the same factory in China. They OEM and anyone can put their own brand stamp on it. This has been a standard practice for years so even the branded stuff are all inherently from China. Most brands will copyright their molds but the factories will often make similar (and sometimes better) molds for OEM cuz they can sell more and eliminate idle production time. So quality-wise, these so-called “Chinese” parts, are on par with branded parts that just charge u more cuz they spend ur money on commercials and sponsoring athletes.
@@kenshin130 sorry you're wrong. These bars are cheap dangerous shite, my son broke some last week and managed to stay on miraculously. Seriously, the Chinese don't care what they sell you, we're protected and wrapped in cotton wool here .
@@markvernon1218 is the bar broken by your son the toseek one sir?
Have had these bars for 3 years and still going strong. Love them so much that I’m getting a second pair for a second open mold build!! Thank you.
Now the only thing missing is a cheap chinese groupset
Maybe Sensah Empire. Supposedly it's 105 tier for about $230 on Ali
@@Adanteh The only downside is that I haven't found a proper chinese brakes that aren't too heavy, there are only cheap ones or expensive ones xD.
The cassette and the chain is another story, you can get titanium cassettes for around 50 quids, and a lightweight chain for about 40.
microSHIFT! Taiwanese, but have been around for a while and are interchangable with Shimano. The problem is that Shimano Tiagra/105 is so cheap and so good, there's no reason not to use it.
@@cup_and_cone Yeah I've used a microshift casette and it was proper worst I've ever used. Shifting sucks and it eats itself too fast. A sora with less gears is better
@Cup & Cone, yeah I agree, as long as you steer clear of Ultegra and DuraAce, you can definitely find some Shimano bargains. I paid £235 for my whole Tiagra groupset, and over 16000 miles later, it's still going strong! That being said, I am super tempted by the Sensa Empire groupset people have been taking about in the comments.....
I really love your videos bro. To many people take themselves way to seriously so you are a fresh breath of air. I know your content must be a real labor of love but I hope that you keep them coming. Maybe take us on a ride with you some time and show us some of your favorite routes. I, being from the southern USA would really like vlog style content along with your super cool regular content. Keep up the great work!!
Awesome, thanks Jarvis, really appreciate it. Yeah I put a lot of effort into these videos, so really cool to hear people are enjoying them! Haven't really thought about a cycle blog, but yeah maybe... maybe
I had some of those bars. Ran them for 4500 miles over Yorkshire roads, all year round. I'm 6ft 6" and 120kg. Great bars.
Nice, good to hear another success story with these bars!
Hi, I too am in yorkshire and have just ordered a pair, I'm in Knaresborough and around my end the roads are awful- have you ever hit them on the floor hard?- I imagine I will drop the bike a few times... what I'm trying to ask is have you had any problems at all with them?
I thought only Mexicans called the ground the floor. Inside you’ll find the floor, outside you’ll find the ground. A farmer would never sow seed in the floor. Yes there is a forest floor but that’s inside the forest. Got it? Good, carry on then. To think an American tidying up an Englishman’s English. Bullocks.
Sir Mixalot
What crawled up your ass?
@Matty Butler, I've never had any problems with them breaking or anything like that, but I haven't had a massive crash and the floor super hard yet. I've gone over a few times no doubt, and they have held up totally fine. They are not super fragile my any means.
I bought the exact same Toseek bars. I’m running them on my 2019 Trek emonda disc SL7 (Di2) with internal cabling/hydraulic hoses.
They still work great after 2,000 miles. Stiff. I bought 2 other handlebars for my 2019 ALR Disc Ultegra hydraulic bike and my 2016 SL6 Di2.
Sure saved a ton of money over “name brand” handlebars. Several friends have bought similar, and everyone is happy!
Just bought a set of these off the back of your review :)) £33 off eBay, no import tax, about 14 days to deliver..I'm amazed how good the build quality is..I've also pulled/twisted/pushups on them they feel very stiff. Thanks again
yes take care with ali-express ask their latest price ..and let them bill you high rate tax...or you'll have to pay with delivery..that could suck if you payed that amount already
I have had these bars for almost two years and they are very good. Stiff with some flex. If considering this exact model, note the drop of the bar from center line of the stem....It lowers your riding position. its a snug contour. Another good brand is RXL. Good video mate.
Hello! Thanks for the video.
Woven carbon prepreg is usually only as the first layer, as it is not so strong and is much more expensive than UD.
I always prefer products with woven final layer. Finishing of these composite products involves a lot of sanding.
Woven layer, being not so structural, protects UD structural layers from damage.
Marble-like appearance of some UD carbon handlebars is actually an evidence of at least one or more layers being sanded through.
Which is, in term of structural composites, very very bad.
Take care,
Happy riding,
KK
I was sceptical at first...but I ended up buying the replica Canyon one piece bar and stem to replace the damaged genuine one, which cracked after a crash. I'm sad to say that the replica was actually stiffer and just felt more solid, even though the weight was about 150g more. So yeah, very happy with my purchase! And thanks for the video too 😘
Awesome, now I have my bike setup pretty much squared away, I am tempted by a one piece bar and stem setup tbh... Anyway glad you liked the video, and thanks for the comment!
Hi mate! Who / what brand makes the Canyon replica handlebar? Dublin Dave
Please post back after you check out of the hospital in the future. ;)
@@davidmcilvenna3710 It's a brand called Fasterway on Ali Express. So far 1,500km and it's flawless even with a knock on it's side.
@@edge23310 thank u mate!
Bought these bars based on your excellent video.They Look great, strong and light. Haven't had any issues at all and could not notice any flaws during installation and inspection. Great bargain.
I've had these handlebars on my bike for almost two years. I recently recabled the bike, took the handlebars off the stem and checked for cracks or marks, nothing. These are fantastic. Just as with all carbon, make sure you use a torque wrench and uniformly tighten all four screws in your stem. I'm using a little under 4nm on mine, tightening in an x pattern a quarter of a turn each at a time until the torque wrench clicks. They all tighten up at the same time, a good sign of good uniform tightening. (when the first clicks, all the rest will click on the next turn too)
I bought some on aliexpress they are super logic but are exactly the same. Just a rebrand. You are definitely right with the 4nm as I didn’t realise this till I read the description after. As I went to 5nm as it’s what it said on the stem and I heard a ever so slight crack noise. So yeah anyone else with these bars defo stick to 4nm. My bars have been fine so far. Just wish I knew this before going at it like a bull.
@@Georgous92 when you tighten carbon and you're also using carbon fiber assembly paste, which you should, you can hear tiny cracks but that's just the little plastic or glass beads suspended in the assembly paste so you're probably fine anyway.
My reply was six months ago, I'd like to inform that the bars remain installed on my bike and they're totally fine :)
Rigo Torres cheers for the reply dude. Gives me re assurance! It’s good to know yours are still going well. Just got my Chinese frame on the weekend so will be transferring all my bits over to it now!
I have a similar (same design) unbranded handlebar on my Velobuild deathtrap. Neither of which has trapped me or caused my death in 2000km. And I'm a 6'4" 90kg lump. Very happy!👍
Nice one dude! Good to hear some more Chinese carbon success stories!!!
Same for me and it's more like 15000km and few crashes. It's great looking, aero and super comfortable. The only downside is horrible internal cable routing.
Bought these handlebars after watching your video and I absolutely love them. They have a lot of flex which gives tons of comfort over rough tarmac or gravel and takes the edge off potholes. I also bought a Chinese knockoff of Canyon VCLS 2.0 seat post which works amazingly well. Gives around 2 cm of suspension and totally mutes road buzz.
I bought the same Toseek bar. I had them about 6-8 months and was riding down a hill about 30 mph. At the base of the hill, where it flattened out, I got in the drops and sprinted out of the saddle. I didn't see a pot hole and hit it fairly hard, nothing worse than I have previously. I heard a big crack noise and thought I just cracked my new Scott Foil frame. Hit my brakes to stop and realized the left side of the bars snapped downward and were hanging a bit. So, in your "strength" ahem, cough, cough, test, you would need to hold the drops where there is more leverage and not the tops. PS: The bars are a little flexy while sprinting and also with hard digs out of the saddle while climbing.
Ok good to know. It can be a bit of a lottery with these replica parts, but good to hear the good and the bad. I would be really interested to put them up against a genuine set of 3T bars, and see how they stack up. But I kinda agree with you, they can bit a bit flexy on the drops, but ive never run into any issues like the one you have described. Anyway, thanks for the comment!
Dude, Ive had those bars on my bike for 3 years now and absolutely LOVE them! They are super comfortable and look fantastic. You can rest your forearms right in that bend up area and its perfect. Can’t loose with these. Also have an MTB set of bars from Toseek and they are great too!
I've got the same bars and rest my forearms on the flat top to give a sort of aero bar position. It's surprisingly comfortable.
Awesome! Good to hear other people love these bars as well!!!
I got 820mm wide riser mtb toseek bars in carbon from china. super solid and cost me about $55 NZD shipped to new zealand. So good! Completely changed the feel of my fat bike, going to get another bar for my other bike!
I've got the same "brand" carbon bars on two mountain bikes. No problems so far. Dont have 6000 miles on them yet, but I don't have any confidence issues riding them.
Love it, such an 80's vibe on intro...wasnt sure if I'd made a wrong turn onto an adult website / with cheesy action intro to something saucier 🙄 lol
Me too! Riding these Bars for 3 years with a gel cushion under the tape. No problems with them sprinting, love the fourth possible hand position and the vibration damping.
I've got the exact same bars on my road bike, they've been on there since January. I had the same,problems routing the outer cable, so your not alone. Weirdly I haven't yet died from using cheap Chinese carbon. I've also got Toseek Carbon riser bars on my MTB.
These videos are so awesome for a beginner - had a horrible experience going bike shop to bike shop with a low budget just for them to push in-house brands relentlessly - love seeing someone who brings a non-biased truth to the road biking.
Appreciate all the info!
No worries dude! Glad you like my stuff :) But yeah I know what you mean about bike shops. The local guys are usually decent, but I've completely lost faith on the chain brands like Evans, or cycle surgery.
I've had these exact handlebars for 2 months now and I'm very happy with them. The only problem I had was that the STI levers kept slipping but a bit of grip tape fixed that.
What about now they still holding up
@@prkz3054 Yes, they're fine even after some really big potholes
@@georgezarifis7409 where did you get them from
You convinced me. I've been unhappy with the stock bars on my bike for nearly two years now, but also reluctant to spend $200 replacing them. $34 later and I've got these same bars on order. Thanks!
Awesome, I'm sure you'll love them, super cool to hear I'm helping people out!!!
What drew me to them was the wide flat top for comfort and the supposed benefits of carbon sucking up road vibe. These did that better than I had hoped. Cable routing is a bit of a pain. I did 1 at a time and had a little better luck by the sounds of it. For the price, pretty unbeatable.
Why didnt you put the inner cables first then run the outers over them
My god, why the hell didn't I think of this!!! This would have probably cut my cabling time in half, good freaking suggestion!!! I love reading the comments. I'll be re-cabling these in a future video, so I'll definitely shout you out!
It wouldn't have made it any easier. The problem is the sharpness of the curve and the stiffness of the outer cable. I have the exact same bars and suffered the same problem.
@@TraceVelo Hehe yeah that's the way to go. There are plenty of videos on UA-cam concerning the different tricks and techniques of doing internal cable routing. Another nice one is tying fishing line to the end of the inner cable and on the other end of the line something fluffy like a cotton ball, then you can use a vacuum cleaner (or a hoover in Brit speak) to suck it through from the other end. And then there is the magnet technique too. But these are all more relevant when it comes to routing cables in a whole frame.
I have the 3T version. I pulled one cable with outers through first, and then taped the second cable to the first one. That made it easy to pull the second cable through.
These ones are a little rough on the inside making cable routing more difficult.
Had Toseek carbon bullhorn bars on my fixie for over a year. Never used a torque wrench and probably almost always over torqued the stem but alas, never had any problems. They were great, going to buy some Toseek dropdown bars for my road bike soon. Definitely recommend Toseek, however i'm unsure about the other brands.
Oddly enough, I’ve purchased quite a few of these Chinese carbon fiber parts prior to coming across your channel. A lot of my friends would warn me of quality issues and recommend branded parts that often cost up to 10X the cost. Since I’m not a pro rider nor clock miles like yourself or my buddies, it’s always been a concern how these parts fair against their branded twins, but after seeing your reviews, I’m a happy rider. Love your channel, keep up the great work!
Another great video! Like I said in my last comment I was edging on buying some! And now I feel a bit more confident! Keep up the awesome work! Love hearing about the dark side of cycling(chines carbon)
@Max Kokensparger, awesome, glad you liked it! But yeah I love letting people know, you don't have to spend a butt load to get some really great kit! Thanks for the the support!
the reason the sellers constantly close and open now ebay stores is to avoid any legal liability when their product do fail
Decided to give in to this handlebar because my alloy hb is very uncomfortable. Pretty cheap ~23€ without shipping costs. Thanks so much for the video!
No worries, hope you like them. They can be a pain to cable, but if you watch my video on recabling a bike for £5, I cover the technique in detail.
Very nice video dude hope we will get more content in the future because your content is great and you put alot of work into it.
@Til Pape, awesome thanks so much, really appreciate it! I always end up putting a little too much time into these vids, so love reading these comments!!! 🙏
I had one of those and after a year they just exploded.
Bought the originals and they were rounder, while the chinese one was strong, it just wasn't round enough and was flexy which masked the lack of roundness, which created a load that ended up with a sudden crack.
Wowsers really! Would you be able to send me a picture of that? I would be super interested to see how it failed!!
Humor, 70s style title page, 80s electronic music hanging out in the background, classic video game references, oh yeah and a great talk on Chinese carbon. This video, and all of your videos are fantastic and deserve more recognition. One question, did I miss a description of what your commute is like? Are we talking a straight flat clean road all the way through? So when you say its comfortable we know what kind of road you are working with.
Awesome, thanks Shawn, really appreciate it, and glad you like the videos!! So yeah my commute is about 20 miles round, and pretty flat. The road surface is ok, but by no means flawless tarmac. Some of the roads round West London are hot garbage after being dug up so many times, and the stop start traffic can be a nightmare. Plus I'm honestly not precious about my gear, and use my carbon wheelset for the commute most of the time. So yeah hope that gives some context.
@@TraceVelo Absolutely that's the exact context I needed, I appreciate the quick response
Your video couldn't come up at better time! - Just this afternoon we were discussing Chinese handlebars with my friend while riding. My friend doesn't trust Chinese carbon. On the other hand my view is such that I don't believe Chinese manufacturers would jeopardize their customers' health, not to say their credibility by producing faulty product. And if an European importer puts his sticker on the handlebars of the very same origin, it doesn't make it more reliable, it just makes it more expensive.
In short, I've ordered these bars for myself. I'm in the same flyweight category as you are, so I believe I won't break them either :-)
Thanks for videos! Keep making them! Good stuff ;-)
Yeah so buying cheap Chinese carbon isn't totally risk free, but do your research, and read the seller reviews, and you can mitigate the risks and pick up some absolute bargains. Super cool to hear you picked up a set of these bars though, I'm sure you'll love them!! But yeah, glad you liked the video, and thanks for the comment!
@@TraceVelo I've ridden them today for the very first time and I love them! Soooo comfortable! I went down the stairs and everything held, so I guess I'll trust them from now on. Thx again for very good tip!
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I have those exact same handlebars on my bike but I have the cockpit one . They work fine and never had a single problem with flex or anything really
Awesome, good to know!!
Best review on youtube! Just honest and clear.
Thanks, really appreciate it!
have had a set of straight bars on my bike from ali express in carbon, they are great.
I always rode alloy bars until I decided to go aero.
I broke two sets of 3t bars (one crash, one clamp crush),
and the company was horrible to deal with... I broke a
set of Enve bars in half during a crash...
So I decided to go with china carbon bars.
Been just as good as the name brands generally.
Incaensio My expectations are when when you pay a premium for components you get the ‘after service’ from the big brands. But not so these days. So, go value Chinese / Taiwanese it make sense 💥
that's because it's literally the same factory that makes these and the name brand bars
I've bought an MTB integrated stem+handlebar from Toseek. Put it in some holes in the walls, above the door, and hang there, me and my two sons, for 5 minutes. We also did some lifting, stretching etc... That is 170kg in total. I've decided it's strong enough to fit it in my son's MTB ;)
i enjoy the quality of these videos, i really enjoyed the entire build :)
Thanks dude, appreciate it!
Remember there's a difference between cheap and inexpensive the word cheap tents to refer to quality the word inexpensive tends to refer to price. You can get some inexpensive high-quality parts you can also get some inexpensive low quality parts.
I bought a frame direct from Flyxii ( £250 delivered )and rode Paris Roubaix on it as well as commuting for 4 years through London - performed flawlessly . I bought carbon , flat top aero bars from Joom ( £28 ) branded only with E90 - they've performed faultlessly as well . They're far more comfortable than alloy bars and definately soak up the vibrations better .
finally a new video! As great as the others, still love your humour :)
Thanks GiAn, glad you liked it!!!
had these exact bars but having not been on a bike in 6 years i pulled a noob move and crushed them with the stem but to thier credit i went to break them in half to throw them away and i even put them on blocks and stood on them and they took 200 lbs which id say is probably pretty good
i have the same bars and did not have an issue getting cables through was pretty straight forward for me
Great video. Got a chinese carbon frame and fork last year for 400 euros. After a year and three months riding, no problem at all, greetings from Mallorca, Spain👍
I've ridden over 1000km on a set of these with the integrated stem an they are brilliant!
I've just bought the set with the integrated stem!!! Good to know the aren't garbage
Trace Velo Thankyou for the tip off!!
Awesome review, I seriously appreciate your stress test since I've seen a lot of flex in some other videos. The one piece bars in other vids have seemed to have an unacceptable amount of flex for sprinting. Thanks
With the proper tool you can run a dummy cable through first then chase it with the housing and it makes running the internal cables super easy
Fantastic review there mate. I was dubious about them but hearing from your self instilled confidence. I was looking at the stem integrated version also.
Yeah I actually just got the integrated stem one in the post last week. I haven't used it yet, but seems to be at least as good quality as the one in this video.
I've had some Toseek TT cockpit for the season this year and it's been fantastic
I had the same bars, I found them to be strong and lightweight, the only thing I didn't like was that they extended the reach a little to much for me. (which is my fault as I should have done more research) Great video please keep it up.
Awesome thanks dude, glad you like the video's! So yeah the reach is much longer than regular bars for sure. Probably worth getting a slightly shorter stem to compensate.
Loving the videos editing is quite funny and content is down to earth and really interesting , keep up the good work. Can you do a show on Chines disc brake road frames and what they are comparable with, looking at it from a geometry /shape of popular OEM carbon road frames? Thanks for the videos 👍
Had a crash with a toseek aero dropbar. No dents and still stiff. :)
be warned carbon doesnt really dent it just breaks. so if you crashed and hit the handle bars id def be looking under the bar tape be it aluminum or carbon
LOLz....
Good to hear.!
If you see a crack even if its a really small crack better change dropbars
I had a cheap carbon bar on my bike (looked like a 3T copy). The bars were comfy, looked great and I was very happy with them ...but they did break suddenly going down a fast downhill. The end section was weakly secured to the mid section by a thin carbon shell. This snapped, the bar end pivoted at this joint and then came off altogether. Fortunately I stayed upright. I may have had a bad example but it put me off using cheap carbon bars. Having said that I've had a cheap carbon seatpost, which I've used for 6 years, no problem.
Luke… if that is still your name… this is one of the funniest channels going. You make me L O L several times a video whilst keeping me informed. I thank you
"A sample size of ... me!". My favorite line.
Hey man.. A friend on mine bought two of these handle bars.. He built a specialized alieze and with some more carbon parts the final weight is 17.8 lbs. Point is the bars are light weight, strong so far amd look great!
I’ve been on the fence regarding cheap carbon bars, but....why not. Thanks for the investigation. Keep the videos coming!
Sad to say mine lasted for about a thousand miles - today I rode of the pavement and hit some rocks - blew a tube (aluminum wheel is still round) and had the bar break completely on both sides
Was looking for some handlebars.. & after your reveiw , just purchased one.. Thanks for a great reveiw!!
Love the videos! Great looking bars! Almost ordered them until I saw the reach was whopping 104mm! Is this correct?
I had some similar bars on one of my bikes. I'm a heavy rider and was petrified of them failing, but, I mounted them to the stem and gave them some physical abuse. Yes, they flexed a little, but that flex is what reduces road buzz.
They were very comfortable and survived a heavy clatter into a pothole - sadly, my (alloy) frame cracked around the seatpost/top tube junction.
The bars were fine and they'll go on another bike once I've decided what I'm doing everything except for the junk frame.
My bike is festooned with cheap Chinese carbon components and all of it is fine, it's not snapped at high speeds and I am not dead or seriously injured. Fantastic. I did buy cheap Taiwanese titanium cassette though and that is bloody awful. Noisy, embarrassingly so, had to remove and replace with steel Campagnolo job.
i bought second hand tt bull horn from this brand. I've got no chance to compare it to anything else on the market, but they're super light and comfortable for my needs. very light and seem to be pretty decent quality...
hey actually planning to buy them ,so do they support the normal end bar brake levers or the tt brake levers ,if not what is the size of the hole at ends??
@@pratikparbat341 i got sram 500 tt levers and they fit pretty good, even had some room for tiny bit of bar tape to be squeezed in, but they fit and squeeze without problem without extra material
Juz bought one today. I think i will enjoy riding after seeing this video. Thanks
I am waiting for my carbon road wheels right now. My carbon seat posts, carbon road (including shaft) fork and my Carbon Handlebars working great so far in one season of riding 2018.
Awesome, always good to hear some Chinese carbon success stories!!
I bought some 50 mm CSC carbon clincher wheels last year for $304 and I couldn't be happier with them. The brake pads that came with them were horrible but the wheels are great.
@@TraceVelo have you build up other bikes so far.... Hardtail? "YBK39" this one from Ali has cought my attention... Get some fine carbon wheels from Ali too and you gonna have money left for an AXS Group-Set.
That CSI Miami reference is gold!
What a great channel , you have the charisma.
I never was really into bike until I saw these videos. Good job hope you keep making videos👍
I purchased a set of these. .managed 1000miles at which point found they had cracked close to the stem... they where also at the correct torque setting!! Really if you want cheap just stick to a cheap alloy pair from a known manufacturer!! Otherwise if you do want carbon, spend out on a reputable brand..
Finally cracked my ultra cheap Chinese mtb hbar under the brake lever after 6 yrs of use and several horrendous crashes during that time. Performance never suffered and had I not removed the brake lever I would not have known.
So good to see you encouraging folks to buy cheap Chinese knock offs that probably violate intellectual property rights or put people at risk. Not all cheap Chinese knock offs are safe. Most are deadly.
LOL what a coincidence today I've received my Chinese carbon handlebar and feels rock solid too, "I tried to brake it" and nothing.
So have you fixed your brakes?
1. And what is the answer of your video? Buy over the original bar or not?
2. Is there any pro cyling team using this kind of bar?
3. Whats the cons vs the original 3T bar you said in the beginning of thia video?
Thx.
Loving your FUN & informative productions. 😁👍🚴♂️🇬🇧
Ordered a Superlogic bar on Aliexpress. Identical design to yours. Also been using a Toseek carbon fibre stem for about a year now. The handle bar only cost £25 and paid £24.99 for the stem on Amazon.
Nice! Good to hear some more success stories!!!
Gave it a go and spend $36 US at eBay for the Toseek carbon aero bars. I have no complaints with the weight or overall finish quality but after 2 hours and destroying 2 sections of new Shimano housing decided my time was better spent on other things. A number of fails in the design, specifically in the flat section and lacking the guide tubes that are almost standard now with components that route cable internally it's wasn't money well spent, but then you get what you pay for.
Yeah I know what you mean, the cable routing was a bit of a pain. I got some tips from people in the comments though, and that is to run the actual cables through first, then use them to guide the cable outers through the bars. I haven't tried it myself, but lots of people have assured me it works like a charm. Might be worth a go.
Just ordered Toseek Aero Handlebars from Aliexpress, along with a garmin mount that fits - 60 USD, and I hope they don't fall apart whilst riding!
The channel will geo worry not. Really looking forward to your next video!
If I didnt spend £10,000 + o a bike and £3000 on clothing I wouldnt be able to call myself a cyclist ! Joking of cause, and your videos have made me realise that instead of building a fairly decent bike with used parts I really should of gone Chinese. Still not to late is it ! Another great video Thanks
When I crashed last year on those exact bars, they cracked right at the stem and broke there. I smashed my head into the pavement, I don't know if those bars were at fault or not. Perhaps any carbon bars would break the same way. Maybe I will never know.
Yeah, but at least you didn't paid 200usd for it :)
Please create a video on tips how to do the cable routing. I've had such a difficult time with these bars.
I pull the cable through first and then slide the housing back through where the cable is. I used a neo magnet to pull the cable to the exit hole.
Totally underrated channel, grettins from Chile.
So I just ordered my carbon fiber frame / wheelset / handlebar / seat from China.
Disclaimer: I have never owned a bike.
This quarantine and your videos gave me this idea of a new pet project :)
read all the comments, jayz there's loads, to see if anyone asked how 190g compares to the weight of alu' bars cos i'm just curious. You're informative and gas, plus the surprising bam bum videomash is wake up funny so i finally subscribed. Nice one and please keep it up, I might even consider getting a cheap carbon fiber whatev sometime..
The workmanship on your skirting and architrave is horrendous, the carbon bars are top class
Lol, yeah I know. Literally every piece of skirting in our flat has been glued on by the landlord. Not a skirting nail in sight...
@@TraceVelo You should get him to do a bike build, now that I would watch :)
"-10 respect" 😂😂 you're hilarious bro
@World Citizen, for acknowledging my humour, -15 respect 💀
Nah but seriously, glad you liked the vid, really appreciate it! 🙏
a one piece bar is in the mail as we speak..i wanted to warn about ali express about TAX...they charge the tax before delivery in your country..pick the right one..i found a carbon bar (one piece 36 euro) on WISH app.
lot's of them like...one piece and different carbon bike parts..even rip-off CINELLI !!!.great tech. vid guy!!!👍
Super grateful for this channel
I always make sure to like your videos. Top level content 👌
I've had these on my bike for about 3 years now and crashed many times. just this weekend i crashed again and finally broke them. very hot handle bars
I've been using an identical set ( though not Toseek) for 7k km or so. I love them. They are so comfortable. However, first cable routing is a major endurance event.... I have other Toseek bits, and they are absolutely fine and faultless.
Awesome, what other Toseek stuff have you got, anything you would recommend?
@@TraceVelo stems and seat posts. Had no problems at all.
I have same handle bar, and the sticker underneath said its “made in taiwan” not china
Rksalad Salad my guy, taiwan is in china
Ling Ling mayb search a little before typing in comment?
wdym, taiwan is in china it’s a debate but it is officially part of the new republic of china
Ling Ling if your sayin Taiwan is china i could also say north Korea is part of south Korea, Taiwan is their own independent nation (country)
taiwan-china term is used for china’s media,
that’s our misunderstanding then, there is lots of controversy in this topic, as my family is from the people’s republic it is our stand that tiawan is still part of our country
Great video..thanks for the info..price difference is massive when bought here..I bought “copy” castelli kit from China.shirt/shorts 23 quid total .quality is superb.hard to justify buying local when your getting charged 70+ just for the shirt..definitely gonna look at them bars now
Have some toseek carbon pursuit bars on my road-going track bike and they soak up the potholes nicely. Also have a toseek semi-aero seat post, which has given no trouble at all also. Recommended by Joe.
@KevCentral needs to see this. I have been trying to get him to buy one for months to review. I've been buying carbon parts and frames from mainland China for years from good sellers. All the parts ive had worked perfectly. Only issue I've had was with a seatpost that I overtighten and snapped after putting my fat ass on it going downhill . The carbon frame I have didn't even have a stress mark or anything after the snap. I replaced it with the same $20 seatpost off amazon and tightened it to 5nm. I had a hard crash after and it took it like a champ. The thing with "cheap" parts is that they don't feel like a bad investment when things break or get too beat up. Just buy another cheap part and your done. Plus t700 or t1000 carbon from trek is the is toray carbon used in cheaper frames or parts. As long as there are no obvious defects the two will have close to if not equal strength values.
Would love to see these handlebars put through non destructive testing to check for voids and thickness.... 🤔 .... very tempted to get some.
I mean I can't talk to that much detail, but I have been using them for around 2 years and over 8000miles so far, and they are still rock solid!
Last weekend, I got cut off HARD and slid into another rider. When I made impact, I was almost at a stop, and the bike fell over. To be clear, it was hardly a “crash”, the bike fell at almost a complete stop. I was not harmed, but my Chinese handlebars crushed at the point where the cable hole was drilled. My handlebar tape was not damaged... but the bars were ruined.